... Has SL ever finished an RP tournament?
I won a Jounin Exams, with me and Shadowfire's battle still posted here on the forum somewhere. But I see the joke you were making there.
I don't understand how the bijuu is not the property of the village or organization. I believe that is how it has been represented in the manga, so that is where my bias comes from.
As it stands now it is up to the hierarchy of the village to determine who the new host will be.
I feel that it would have to be proven the village has defaulted on their ability to choose a new host before an 'outside' tourney would even be considered. As part of the process for a village to choose a new host, it should be acceptable for a village to hold a tourney to choose between its own members.
However, once an outside tourney is called for...I agree with the 3 day posting limit. Special events such as this should force activity. Otherwise if you cannot commit to that level of activity do not try for the bijuu.
My persinal thoughts are that SL tends to not follow the manga plot and all. So I still see the Biju as being held by the host not the village... that is just me though. As the person could defect or anything so to me truly the person owns the tailed beast. People at SL flipflop villages a lot.
The shinobi in the series would flip-flop alot too if there were absolutely no serious consequences for defection and there is a serious lack of family ties being torn by defection. Even then, defection was not very uncommon (especially in Konoha and Kiri) in the series considering all the rogue nin who turned out to be enemies at some point or another.
It can be argued that certain techniques are village property, but that does not keep people from stealing that property and running off and sharing it with their grandma half a state over.
A tournament is an idea proposed to solve an inactive biju problem if say the leaders of a clan/village are inactive or cannot put a but a biju in a host/summon in the time allowed.
Basically if a organization takes too long to do something with a biju, a tournament is held to decide. So far there are no tournament rules, which is what I'm trying to get done. It's not a main issue, but needs to have rules in the event a tournament is ever needed.
So just to organize everything stated so far, we have these topics and proposes answers (rules)
1v1 fights:
If Jinch goes inactive, challengers gets biju (everyone commenting on thread agrees)
Mutli/village fights:
If Jinch is inacitve, biju goes back to the village in a pot and can be taken by challengers with overwhelming victory.
Dissenting opinion: Uetto proposes it goes to challenger.
Tournament:
Should be a last case scenario as it can be slow (Pretty much agreed upon)
Shadow has proposed set of rules
Trev has proposed set of rules
Kay believe the village should handle it, and it not be open to the public.
Pretty much a recap, someone fix if I missed something. I think everyone will agree with the 1v1, and it might be presumptuous to assume the rest of SL does, but I think that topic is done and settled.
I agree with that 1v1, as that is practically biju challenges style of play there.
I agree with the multi-village RP fight regs, as I would consider that second strike against the host at that point, and sending it to the challengers at that stage WOULD save some trouble, it would also mean that any RL implications for going inactive would ultimately punish the jinch. Landmine of exceptions and loopholes waiting to be stepped on.
So to hold a tourney each kage from each village will send whoever wants to participate for the bijuu, but no more than 2-3 from one village. All rouge nin can enter regardless. After that the kage and hosts will set up the order and such. The zones will be used for the battles. Judges, I think there should be at least 3 for the total. Consisting of; Kamui (If the poor guy is willing) and then 2 others decided by who's the most unbaised. After that have 3 battles running at a time (The reason for 3 judges) and hopefully that will make it go faster?
I was thinking if a tournament had to be had, perhaps have a 16-32 member maximum count (I'd go with 16). The participants would literally be first come, first served (no alts, however). Perhaps Kamui and other GM's could be judges, or anyone really.
To speed up the process, stress activity. Normally in a fight, you get what, one-two weeks of inactivity before you have to post? For a tournament, make it 2-3 days, else you get dq'd. That would force people to post and fight, or be eliminated to speed it up.
Also make it ooc, as that makes sense. That's how I'd run it anyway, seems the easiest and quickest.
I'd also only limit other people and alts to be the only ones not able to enter. And perhaps to make sure the tournament doesn't overwhelmingly have too many people from one side, put a limit of like 3 members from any organization/village. But mostly first come, first serve as 2-3 from each village is unfair to other clans and the smaller villages.
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So those are the current guidelines Trev and myself have proposed and I'm going to try and mix them into a current template...
Max of 32 champions. 2 from each village max; kusa, kumo, Oto, Iwa. Any village has a max of 2 champions. Villages DO NOT have to participate. Champions are to be chosen by the kage/council of the village. I do not care how the village chooses their champions. The villages will have ONE WEEK to choose these people. Those without a village can enter as they please.
To speed up the process a inactivity time of 3-5 days will render you to forfeit the match and be DQ'ed from the competition. After such you CANNOT re-enter under any terms regardless of inactivity reason.
NO ALTS. If we find out you do have an alt you will automatically be DQ'ed, all characters. If we find later you indeed won the bijuu with an alt, stripped. (This is to be debated)
As for judges...I think Kamui comes to mind for everyone. And I insist on having 3 judges and 3 fights to take place at one time.
Tournament gets its own quote.
I disagree with the idea of 2 folks from the villages on a first come, first serve basis. I mean, jeez, look at what we had to do to get people looking on the forum; Shadow and others had to post a link in the village boards.
I say 1 person from the villages/organizations, first come first serve, with a limit of 5 days for the selection process. Why one? Well, if we go with the 16 max, then that means that 8 organizations at maximum could participate (assuming they each send 2 and manage to get them in) and that said members of the organization might would have to fight each other at some point. Which would likely defeat the purpose of sending 2 in the first place.
By sending just one, then that will broaden the spectrum of groups who can send a rep to try for the beast, especially since unaffiliated ninja have almost free jump on it (presuming we don't change that soon), and it would also make the first-come-first-serve just a little fairer, unless we see mass defections/disaffiliations in order to shove more people from a similar cause into the tourney, in which case we would need to keep an eye on that.
This tourney would have to be OOC, otherwise it would take even more time for reasons that should be obvious: everyone would have to RP gather in one place and since the fights will be IC, the sword will be drawn even moreso in order to keep character death from occurring.
A more local tournament could be held if and only if that is the only way to decide who gets it within the village in a non-middle-of-battle-situation where the jinch goes inactive. I would advise against that and just go with chain of command, but just throwing it out there.
How are we going to check alts, by the way? Because we all know that it will be attempted and, if the right people do it, it will succeed in deciding the fate of a a participant or two. Other than maybe Neji via the PvP system, there is hardly any way to tell that one computer is being used for multiple accounts definitively.