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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2017, 04:39:02 AM »

This was the best option IMO when the Biju were almost about to be banned. Though I would like to see something happen with the Zero tails. If absolutely nothing else, we can remove it's label as an actual tailed beast and return it to it's role in obscurity. Take away it's Dark release and tailed beast chakra shroud so it's not like you're getting a huge advantage or anything for having something sealed in you opposed to having it set for a village. Or if I just happen to win and retain the beast, it can be assigned to the Otsutsuki clan until a better location is established.   
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2017, 05:01:51 AM »

3) I don't like that idea. Means that too many false villages would pop up just so someone can call themselves a 'kage and then attack for the bijū in question.

I'd like to just say that I think that villages that are nothing more than clans should get the opportunity to 'take over' a bijuu. For example, if Otogakure has the 1-tails and three ninja from Motogakure attack the village and manage to steal it from Otogakure, then they should have be able to have it assigned to their village. Allowing that might allow for more roleplay to happen within each clan, which could greatly help those 'villages' without actual boards like we all have.
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2017, 08:54:24 AM »

I don't think I need to say why I think this idea is, simply and nicely put, silly o.o
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2017, 04:42:58 PM »

3) I don't like that idea. Means that too many false villages would pop up just so someone can call themselves a 'kage and then attack for the bijū in question.

I'd like to just say that I think that villages that are nothing more than clans should get the opportunity to 'take over' a bijuu. For example, if Otogakure has the 1-tails and three ninja from Motogakure attack the village and manage to steal it from Otogakure, then they should have be able to have it assigned to their village. Allowing that might allow for more roleplay to happen within each clan, which could greatly help those 'villages' without actual boards like we all have.

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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2017, 04:44:27 PM »

I don't think I need to say why I think this idea is, simply and nicely put, silly o.o

Because then you can't horde the biju anymore? You've already expressed the desire to distribute the biju on your own, so I don't see why you would have a problem with this. Both scenarios lead to you not having all of the biju, which you don't need anyway because your character is ridiculously strong on its own.
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2017, 05:28:18 PM »

I don't think I need to say why I think this idea is, simply and nicely put, silly o.o

Because then you can't horde the biju anymore? You've already expressed the desire to distribute the biju on your own, so I don't see why you would have a problem with this. Both scenarios lead to you not having all of the biju, which you don't need anyway because your character is ridiculously strong on its own.

That's a good question. :oops:
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2017, 07:30:54 PM »

I don't think I need to say why I think this idea is, simply and nicely put, silly o.o

Because then you can't horde the biju anymore? You've already expressed the desire to distribute the biju on your own, so I don't see why you would have a problem with this. Both scenarios lead to you not having all of the biju, which you don't need anyway because your character is ridiculously strong on its own.

Because it erases the point of Jinchuuriki, smartass? You know, those people and things I've been preaching to you about trying to mean something and make better? Or are we just gonna forget I told you all that stuff so you can sharpen your pitchfork too? :/
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2017, 11:19:52 PM »

I don't think I need to say why I think this idea is, simply and nicely put, silly o.o

Because then you can't horde the biju anymore? You've already expressed the desire to distribute the biju on your own, so I don't see why you would have a problem with this. Both scenarios lead to you not having all of the biju, which you don't need anyway because your character is ridiculously strong on its own.

Because it erases the point of Jinchuuriki, smartass? You know, those people and things I've been preaching to you about trying to mean something and make better? Or are we just gonna forget I told you all that stuff so you can sharpen your pitchfork too? :/

You all have already erased the point of jinchuriki when you fight each other for tailed beasts that while using characters so powerful that the power boost that you'd get from it is more than negligible. As I keep saying, distributing the tailed beasts to lower ranking players isn't going to work so long as the meta players are so obsessed with getting something that essentially has no value to them that they don't want to give other players a chance.

Distributing the tailed beasts to different villages prevents that from happening. And please don't try to frame this like I'm joining some which hunt against you. If it were Rusaku, or Bocc, or Teostra, or anyone else in your position I would have had said the same thing. I respect you all enough to be honest with you.

And I still have everything you've told me in mind, but action says quite more than words does and so far I still see you with the majority of the tailed beasts and actively challenging other players for the ones you don't have. You just issued a challenge to Ray a few days ago, when he was one of those lower level (no slight to you, Ray. You're very good in your own right, but there is a different in technical skill between you and say, a Rusaku).

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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2017, 12:11:18 AM »

I don't think I need to say why I think this idea is, simply and nicely put, silly o.o

Because then you can't horde the biju anymore? You've already expressed the desire to distribute the biju on your own, so I don't see why you would have a problem with this. Both scenarios lead to you not having all of the biju, which you don't need anyway because your character is ridiculously strong on its own.

Because it erases the point of Jinchuuriki, smartass? You know, those people and things I've been preaching to you about trying to mean something and make better? Or are we just gonna forget I told you all that stuff so you can sharpen your pitchfork too? :/

You all have already erased the point of jinchuriki when you fight each other for tailed beasts that while using characters so powerful that the power boost that you'd get from it is more than negligible. As I keep saying, distributing the tailed beasts to lower ranking players isn't going to work so long as the meta players are so obsessed with getting something that essentially has no value to them that they don't want to give other players a chance.

Distributing the tailed beasts to different villages prevents that from happening. And please don't try to frame this like I'm joining some which hunt against you. If it were Rusaku, or Bocc, or Teostra, or anyone else in your position I would have had said the same thing. I respect you all enough to be honest with you.

And I still have everything you've told me in mind, but action says quite more than words does and so far I still see you with the majority of the tailed beasts and actively challenging other players for the ones you don't have. You just issued a challenge to Ray a few days ago, when he was one of those lower level (no slight to you, Ray. You're very good in your own right, but there is a different in technical skill between you and say, a Rusaku).

And going back to the things of mine you have in mind, you also know Athos isn't going to be the same very soon >> without spoiling any of the things I am gonna be doing. So even saying 'well, Athos is strong' won't be a viable reason because I won't be xD I'm gonna be lower tier.
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2017, 12:49:35 AM »

I don't think I need to say why I think this idea is, simply and nicely put, silly o.o

Because then you can't horde the biju anymore? You've already expressed the desire to distribute the biju on your own, so I don't see why you would have a problem with this. Both scenarios lead to you not having all of the biju, which you don't need anyway because your character is ridiculously strong on its own.

Because it erases the point of Jinchuuriki, smartass? You know, those people and things I've been preaching to you about trying to mean something and make better? Or are we just gonna forget I told you all that stuff so you can sharpen your pitchfork too? :/

You all have already erased the point of jinchuriki when you fight each other for tailed beasts that while using characters so powerful that the power boost that you'd get from it is more than negligible. As I keep saying, distributing the tailed beasts to lower ranking players isn't going to work so long as the meta players are so obsessed with getting something that essentially has no value to them that they don't want to give other players a chance.

Distributing the tailed beasts to different villages prevents that from happening. And please don't try to frame this like I'm joining some which hunt against you. If it were Rusaku, or Bocc, or Teostra, or anyone else in your position I would have had said the same thing. I respect you all enough to be honest with you.

And I still have everything you've told me in mind, but action says quite more than words does and so far I still see you with the majority of the tailed beasts and actively challenging other players for the ones you don't have. You just issued a challenge to Ray a few days ago, when he was one of those lower level (no slight to you, Ray. You're very good in your own right, but there is a different in technical skill between you and say, a Rusaku).

And going back to the things of mine you have in mind, you also know Athos isn't going to be the same very soon >> without spoiling any of the things I am gonna be doing. So even saying 'well, Athos is strong' won't be a viable reason because I won't be xD I'm gonna be lower tier.

It most certainly would be viable because you're not the only person with a character so strong that they don't even need a biju. Depending on how much you plan on nerfing your character, you could become one of the very people that I'm standing up for.
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2017, 02:07:52 AM »

I think Ray's right about us having characters that are just too strong. But I can't really think of how to fix it besides having us police ourselves. Every previous attempt to make limits or guidelines slowly just disappears as people want more and more. It's like going to a buffet and saying, 'oh, this looks good. Oh, and so does this. And this....' >_>
I think that's why I kinda stopped RPing. My character used to be extremely powerful back before SLS. After going on hiatus and coming back, I'm hardly a speedbump these days. At the same time, I don't really want to make my character more powerful because I feel then I'll just be part of the problem.
I guess it's hard to RP with other people because everyone's character is good at everything. No one needs a medic because everyone regens, no one needs a certain elemental specialist because everyone mastered everything, no one needs a sensor because everyone has minds eye or whatever, and so on. Hard to build a fun story with other people when you don't need other people

Oh, and to stay on topic, this idea isn't too bad and two max per player >_> No need for an akatsuki type group if all you need is one bocc dude
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2017, 02:41:55 AM »

I think Ray's right about us having characters that are just too strong. But I can't really think of how to fix it besides having us police ourselves. Every previous attempt to make limits or guidelines slowly just disappears as people want more and more. It's like going to a buffet and saying, 'oh, this looks good. Oh, and so does this. And this....' >_>
I think that's why I kinda stopped RPing. My character used to be extremely powerful back before SLS. After going on hiatus and coming back, I'm hardly a speedbump these days. At the same time, I don't really want to make my character more powerful because I feel then I'll just be part of the problem.
I guess it's hard to RP with other people because everyone's character is good at everything. No one needs a medic because everyone regens, no one needs a certain elemental specialist because everyone mastered everything, no one needs a sensor because everyone has minds eye or whatever, and so on. Hard to build a fun story with other people when you don't need other people

Oh, and to stay on topic, this idea isn't too bad and two max per player >_> No need for an akatsuki type group if all you need is one bocc dude

Yep, Teostra said it best. We're all Gary Stu's and Mary Sue's. That's why I've cut down my character's abilities dramatically, because I refuse to be a part of the problem any more.
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2017, 04:36:02 AM »


You all have already erased the point of jinchuriki when you fight each other for tailed beasts that while using characters so powerful that the power boost that you'd get from it is more than negligible...

If you mean canon-wise, the jinchs were village weapons that were to be used in times of war. Notice how Takigakure is the only non-major village to have a tailed beast in the canon (Amegakure/Akatsuki is not counted in this example). The point of true jinchurikii stopped translating well into SL when as weapons they paled in comparison to what the villages could muster otherwise.

Not to mention there has not been a major SL village vs village war in half a decade if not more, much less one that relied on its jinchurikii as major sources of power. It's not just the guys fighting for beasts that minimized their existence as weapons.

This idea to me, would be better served if we just scrap the tailed beasts and encourage the kages of the villages to continue doing their jobs, with great gusto. Teaching people jutsu, mentoring newcomers, fostering village cohesion, isn't that what the leaders of the realm are supposed to be doing (and in many cases are doing?)?

I know some time ago Kage was basically the main GM for Amegakure, and he looked out for Ame RPers. It sounds like you want to make the tailed beasts a few hairs short of that when that would better be suited for the actual realm leaders.
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2017, 04:56:10 AM »


You all have already erased the point of jinchuriki when you fight each other for tailed beasts that while using characters so powerful that the power boost that you'd get from it is more than negligible...

If you mean canon-wise, the jinchs were village weapons that were to be used in times of war. Notice how Takigakure is the only non-major village to have a tailed beast in the canon (Amegakure/Akatsuki is not counted in this example). The point of true jinchurikii stopped translating well into SL when as weapons they paled in comparison to what the villages could muster otherwise.

Not to mention there has not been a major SL village vs village war in half a decade if not more, much less one that relied on its jinchurikii as major sources of power. It's not just the guys fighting for beasts that minimized their existence as weapons.

This idea to me, would be better served if we just scrap the tailed beasts and encourage the kages of the villages to continue doing their jobs, with great gusto. Teaching people jutsu, mentoring newcomers, fostering village cohesion, isn't that what the leaders of the realm are supposed to be doing (and in many cases are doing?)?

I know some time ago Kage was basically the main GM for Amegakure, and he looked out for Ame RPers. It sounds like you want to make the tailed beasts a few hairs short of that when that would better be suited for the actual realm leaders.

I'm saying that the tailed beasts can (and should) be used as an additional tool by the village leaders to build up their citizens. Doing things the way that Dart proposed would allow that. You're right that the bijuu kind of became worthless when the villages began to produce more powerful weapons, which is the point I was making. Particularly I was talking about the characters who themselves act as de facto weapons for the village.
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Re: Crazy Bijū Handling Idea
« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2017, 06:41:26 AM »


You all have already erased the point of jinchuriki when you fight each other for tailed beasts that while using characters so powerful that the power boost that you'd get from it is more than negligible...

If you mean canon-wise, the jinchs were village weapons that were to be used in times of war. Notice how Takigakure is the only non-major village to have a tailed beast in the canon (Amegakure/Akatsuki is not counted in this example). The point of true jinchurikii stopped translating well into SL when as weapons they paled in comparison to what the villages could muster otherwise.

Not to mention there has not been a major SL village vs village war in half a decade if not more, much less one that relied on its jinchurikii as major sources of power. It's not just the guys fighting for beasts that minimized their existence as weapons.

This idea to me, would be better served if we just scrap the tailed beasts and encourage the kages of the villages to continue doing their jobs, with great gusto. Teaching people jutsu, mentoring newcomers, fostering village cohesion, isn't that what the leaders of the realm are supposed to be doing (and in many cases are doing?)?

I know some time ago Kage was basically the main GM for Amegakure, and he looked out for Ame RPers. It sounds like you want to make the tailed beasts a few hairs short of that when that would better be suited for the actual realm leaders.

I'm saying that the tailed beasts can (and should) be used as an additional tool by the village leaders to build up their citizens. Doing things the way that Dart proposed would allow that. You're right that the bijuu kind of became worthless when the villages began to produce more powerful weapons, which is the point I was making. Particularly I was talking about the characters who themselves act as de facto weapons for the village.

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