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Casual => Donations => Topic started by: Shadow on June 09, 2013, 04:27:56 AM

Title: More donation tiers
Post by: Shadow on June 09, 2013, 04:27:56 AM
How about more than just kyuubi for donating?

Example (These are not the official tier prices/ranks just an example ~) :

$5 - Kyuubi (10 days)
$10 - One free KG reset
$15 - One free name change.

Things like that. Some people have no use for the kyuubi since they don't level. They want to donate to the site still, so could you do this? I don't see it as a bad idea. Adding more things would increase more donations, no?

Modified: These may or may not stack. Meaning you donate $15, you get all three. :D
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Genesis on June 09, 2013, 04:47:48 AM
People can buy resets essentially?
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shadow on June 09, 2013, 04:50:11 AM
People can buy resets essentially?

No, they are allowed to change their current resets. The red kyuubi allows you to epic level. If I donated $40 I could get one day oro kills quickly and get reborn in a few days. Red kyuubi is basically buying resets, technically.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Akasaka Rakudo on June 09, 2013, 04:53:07 AM
Why can't you just buy resets? >>
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shadow on June 09, 2013, 04:54:20 AM
Why can't you just buy resets? >>

Fine donate $200 get a reset in any kg. :D

Seriously though, no. That wouldn't work.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Genesis on June 09, 2013, 04:54:53 AM
Because that would defeat the purpose of the game. >>
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shadow on June 09, 2013, 04:55:47 AM
He knows ^
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Akasaka Rakudo on June 09, 2013, 05:04:52 AM
No it would make the game bearable xD
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Genesis on June 09, 2013, 05:12:32 AM
SL would become a "Buy to win" game. In the short term, that would rake in money, but long term wise, it would fail to keep players interested in the "in game" aspect of SL.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Akasaka Rakudo on June 09, 2013, 05:26:52 AM
How masochistic do you have to be to like leveling?
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shadow on June 09, 2013, 05:27:24 AM
How masochistic do you have to be to like leveling?

Stay on topic.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Genesis on June 09, 2013, 05:37:54 AM
How masochistic do you have to be to like leveling?

Don't worry, I feel for you...every game has a grinding aspect where it gets to the point that you have to put so much in to get very little out.
Now getting back on topic, to compensate you can blow cash to make leveling super easy. I just don't think each reset should be bought.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Neji on June 09, 2013, 01:54:02 PM
I'd rather propose bonus DP for higher donations.
Wouldn't hurt anybody.

One issue I have with the tiers: I had several people donating $2 * 3, which won't get Kyuubi. Hence I don't really like the step-idea.

I wouldn't give away stuff you'd also get for DP - would defeat the purpose.

Either we'd give out stuff that is special / not bought with DP, or we just give out "extras".

"Extras" are very easy to program into the current system.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Snap on June 09, 2013, 02:24:13 PM
No. Just NO to the free Kekkei Genkai.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Asadi on June 09, 2013, 06:18:53 PM
Well, you've already got mercenaries in the game... why not give those that donate $2-3 one of them as 'bonus' to the dp. It's not as good the Kyuubi, but it keeps them interested. And, every bit helps those who need it and don't know the game as well as others.

It can even be as simple as $2 get you 1 nin and $3 gets you 1 nin and a medical nin to assist you. Essentially, you get 'stackable' mount/help. Now, how long they stick around can be determined like the Kyuubi (same amount of days or less).

That's simple enough without changing anything to drastically.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shadow on June 10, 2013, 01:28:08 AM
I'd rather propose bonus DP for higher donations.
Wouldn't hurt anybody.

One issue I have with the tiers: I had several people donating $2 * 3, which won't get Kyuubi. Hence I don't really like the step-idea.

I wouldn't give away stuff you'd also get for DP - would defeat the purpose.

Either we'd give out stuff that is special / not bought with DP, or we just give out "extras".

"Extras" are very easy to program into the current system.


So we'll call them 'extras' however I've brought this up before. DP is USELESS due to the kg enabling dk'ing multiple times in a gameday. It wouldn't suffice.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Eric on June 10, 2013, 04:55:46 AM
I'd rather propose bonus DP for higher donations.
Wouldn't hurt anybody.

One issue I have with the tiers: I had several people donating $2 * 3, which won't get Kyuubi. Hence I don't really like the step-idea.

I wouldn't give away stuff you'd also get for DP - would defeat the purpose.

Either we'd give out stuff that is special / not bought with DP, or we just give out "extras".

"Extras" are very easy to program into the current system.


So we'll call them 'extras' however I've brought this up before. DP is USELESS due to the kg enabling dk'ing multiple times in a gameday. It wouldn't suffice.


DP is not useless for those who do not have all of those KG's. Like all the new players that would keep the game fresh.

Though, if you find DP so pointless, if you got any, I sure as heck could use some. My stock is starting to get kind of low. :(

On topic, giving extra DP would be easier to implement if it also included the kyuubi (presuming that kyuubi is lowest tier and the new tiers would be above that). Something a little more challenging would be the mercenaries, or even a different special mount, with kyuubi switching to the higher end of the tiers.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shadow on June 10, 2013, 05:03:42 AM
Kyuubi will stay at $5 just cause it fits there.
Neji brought up some people would donate $3, two times and that way they didn't get kyuubi...so how about if someone donates less than $5 each time we stack it? Like they donate $2 and then $3 the next month. Be nice and then give them kyuubi.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shinro on June 10, 2013, 05:54:13 AM
You know, I wouldn't mind getting another specialty (as in ninjutsu) for donating a certain amount of money. I know implementing such option wouldn't be too hard to do. 

How about donating $20 or more gives you one extra specialty that you could start learning? It's not a bad idea, guys.

Adding: I also wouldn't mind paying $100 to permanently get that adorable Ten-Tailed Beast Yin. :)
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Ratatosk on June 10, 2013, 06:50:57 AM
I thought I might throw an idea for "Extras" it wouldn't hurt.

An "extra" could be temporarily being immune to PvP by others for a set time. If it is even possible, since Neji can make himself PvP immune. I would assume you can program it in for donors.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shinro on June 11, 2013, 08:21:41 PM
That's not a bad idea.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Eric on June 11, 2013, 10:08:06 PM
I thought I might throw an idea for "Extras" it wouldn't hurt.

An "extra" could be temporarily being immune to PvP by others for a set time. If it is even possible, since Neji can make himself PvP immune. I would assume you can program it in for donors.


D: But... I need dat XP!

Jk... That sounds like a fine idea, for the right price.
Kyuubi will stay at $5 just cause it fits there.
Neji brought up some people would donate $3, two times and that way they didn't get kyuubi...so how about if someone donates less than $5 each time we stack it? Like they donate $2 and then $3 the next month. Be nice and then give them kyuubi.


I think Neji outlawed the stacking idea to keep someone from donating $1.00 a month for 5 months and still getting the same kyuubi someone gets for $5 in one month. Is there really an issue with that? Well, I don't sign off on the realm's bill so I can't say for sure...
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: God on June 14, 2013, 10:56:58 AM
How about a tier where he actually improves the game, I wouldn't mind paying for that.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shadow on June 14, 2013, 08:27:38 PM
How about a tier where he actually improves the game, I wouldn't mind paying for that.

Seeing as how he is one guys and has some help from Shinobi and Ace a bit he keeps the game going pretty well. He does improve it. The kg, the name changes, all of it.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Neji on June 16, 2013, 05:38:01 PM
Thanks for the heads up.

I want something that is good but neither feels mandatory nor too useless.

The medical nin etc sound fine.

What would you like to see for "guys who already have everything"?

Keep in mind: I'd like to keep it fair for the others in regard of powerlevel.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shadow on June 16, 2013, 08:21:35 PM
I was debating on posting this or not, but why not?

Donate a certain amount = higher chance of getting a seal/finding the kyuubi?

Since the system is randomly generated and not based on the actual rank you are in the HOF.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Eric on June 16, 2013, 08:35:04 PM
Sounds a bit like the lucky charm for DP, unless you mean an even higher chance.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shadow on June 16, 2013, 08:36:31 PM
Sounds a bit like the lucky charm for DP, unless you mean an even higher chance.

Even more than that.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: God on June 17, 2013, 08:48:28 PM
How about a tier where he actually improves the game, I wouldn't mind paying for that.

Seeing as how he is one guys and has some help from Shinobi and Ace a bit he keeps the game going pretty well. He does improve it. The kg, the name changes, all of it.

Most browser games are one guy, and they're usually terrible, except ours goes out of his way to make the others look like saints. Just looking at the games decline should tell him that something is probably wrong.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Shadow on June 17, 2013, 11:00:54 PM
How about a tier where he actually improves the game, I wouldn't mind paying for that.

Seeing as how he is one guys and has some help from Shinobi and Ace a bit he keeps the game going pretty well. He does improve it. The kg, the name changes, all of it.

Most browser games are one guy, and they're usually terrible, except ours goes out of his way to make the others look like saints. Just looking at the games decline should tell him that something is probably wrong.

Don't like the site so much, please quit then. Look, I'm obviously starting these threads to IMPROVE the game. If all you're going to do is badmouth the admin and not support by adding in helpful ideas on the current topic revert to my first sentence.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Snap on June 19, 2013, 03:28:05 AM
How about a tier where he actually improves the game, I wouldn't mind paying for that.

Seeing as how he is one guys and has some help from Shinobi and Ace a bit he keeps the game going pretty well. He does improve it. The kg, the name changes, all of it.

Most browser games are one guy, and they're usually terrible, except ours goes out of his way to make the others look like saints. Just looking at the games decline should tell him that something is probably wrong.

Then what is your reason to play Shinobi Legends in the first place if you believe most browser games are terrible? What's that? Don't like the game? Then just get off from SL and play a bunch of PC or console games.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: God on June 24, 2013, 05:23:57 AM
How about a tier where he actually improves the game, I wouldn't mind paying for that.

Seeing as how he is one guys and has some help from Shinobi and Ace a bit he keeps the game going pretty well. He does improve it. The kg, the name changes, all of it.

Most browser games are one guy, and they're usually terrible, except ours goes out of his way to make the others look like saints. Just looking at the games decline should tell him that something is probably wrong.

Then what is your reason to play Shinobi Legends in the first place if you believe most browser games are terrible? What's that? Don't like the game? Then just get off from SL and play a bunch of PC or console games.

Probably because I did like the game at one point? I've been playing close to 7 years i'd imagine and the game certainly hasn't gotten any better with the changes. Matter fact it's probably gotten worse. Which is probably why so many have dropped off. You know there was at time you had to spam refresh the login page to get the chance the play.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Akasaka Rakudo on June 24, 2013, 08:39:06 AM
Who in the history of the world has ever come to this game because they heard about how fun leveling in the forest was? "Oh yeah this game is great, if you run out of turns you wait 8 hours before you can play again, oh and you lose exp if people kill you while you are logged off, oh and the game can just flat out kill you, no questions asked, if it gets bored. But hey! If you level every day for 6 months you can lose everything you have for a slight buff, then you get to DO IT ALL AGAIN! BEST GAME EVER!" The reason people stay or go is because of the community.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Eric on June 24, 2013, 10:25:00 PM
It's a tad off-topic, but I agree with Rakudo on that last part (when I first got here forest fighting was... well, thrilling, filled with suspense and the lot... not to mention I don't think resets were very well established at that point, so it was get as many Oro kills as possible to rank up. It wasn't until I came back to the game and got my first reset that it started to feel like a drag).

The community has brought in and kicked out (figuratively, not literally) players in one way or another. It's the players that jiggle some of the nerves of any newcomers and even veterans to the point of leaving. 

Honestly, I'm thinking that this idea would be more beneficial to those already here and such, rather than those just freshly coming in nowadays, though I'm sure they would/will make good use of it if they can.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: UettoSenju on December 08, 2013, 10:44:30 PM
Could gems be worked into this some how? Possibly increase the amount of dp one gets for donating and allow gems to be bought with dp. Or just give x amount of gems for every x amount of dp donated. Like 100 gems for every 10 dollars.

Gems can help everyone even new players. They can use it to buy mounts to level with and dwellings to not be killed as much. Along with a bunch of other stuff.
Title: Re: More donation tiers
Post by: Neji on December 14, 2013, 08:26:27 PM
Hm - gem <- DP would not be a good conversion.

That's like buying most stuff instantly, because gems are the one currency for that.

tiers where you get more dp for the more you donate ... well, we don't need more money just with that. I'd rather have fun stuff.

I'd rather hand out new players buffs or buffs in general. but they need to be moderate.