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Game Development => New Features => Topic started by: Neji on December 13, 2007, 07:13:23 PM

Title: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 13, 2007, 07:13:23 PM
I am basically done testing and I already said which ones are complete. Others are scheduled, but don't expect anything before February 2008.

To be precise:

You lose virtually everything.

We are currently debating on what exactly you will lose =)

but consider gold,gems, mount, companion, jutsu points, charm and what not gone.

dwellings/sst/cs are in discussion.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Koneko on December 13, 2007, 07:15:43 PM
I think the SST & CS should be a Keeper.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 13, 2007, 07:18:12 PM
Dwellings should stay  :roll:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 13, 2007, 07:43:16 PM
I say CS/SST should stay
Dwellings I say no there not that important anyways. :twisted:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 13, 2007, 07:45:01 PM
I say everything goes, but dwellings, yes dwellings may not be important to you, but my castle and cityhouses are used by my clan members and friends, dont think its fair they should lose there home cause of me
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 13, 2007, 07:47:51 PM
I think that, SST and CS should go
if they stay the new acads would be very powerfull, with a kekkei genkai and also the sst or cs.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Koneko on December 13, 2007, 07:50:09 PM
I think that, SST and CS should go
if they stay the new acads would be very powerfull, with a kekkei genkai and also the sst or cs.
BUT! We earned it thru powerful training, so i think it should STAY.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 13, 2007, 07:51:02 PM
Hmmm...i see jins point...maybe you could "earn them back" lets say you got curse seal as an anbu then once you re-reach anbu you could have it back if you got cs2 as a grand hokage once you re-reach grand hokage you can have cs2 back. ALso im sure cs and sst will still be available to players even if they have kekkei genkai.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 13, 2007, 07:54:21 PM
`Lthere not that hard to get back forget them
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 13, 2007, 07:55:20 PM
im sure Kboogi and Blaze would disagree... :D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 13, 2007, 07:57:02 PM
im sure Kboogi and Blaze would disagree... :D


Well they can choose to no get a kekkei genkai  :twisted:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihazi on December 13, 2007, 07:57:20 PM
Complete restart.
Everything will have to be regained.
Too bad for those who love their CS/CS2 and SST/Enhanced.
An academy student with a castle? An academy student can't even go to hoshi.
Wait until you become sannin? Nah.

What is the requirement?
A free name change?
What about the two dragon points per dk?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: caquricon on December 13, 2007, 08:00:41 PM
i say keep the dwellings because other people other than the owners use them. the SST/CS should also stay since it took alot of luck and time to get it...


also another question, what about alignment?... i would hate to lose 6th place for most good and 2nd for chaotic
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 13, 2007, 08:04:22 PM
Well if I can keep the dwellings for my clan, good-bye 220 somthing oro kills, all i care about is my clans well being
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 13, 2007, 08:14:03 PM
i care about kekkei genkai...i just dont wanna give EVERYTHING up
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mioku on December 13, 2007, 08:15:05 PM
what about custom titles/wep, armor and avys would they stay?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihazi on December 13, 2007, 08:19:57 PM
Mission HQ/Donation points are the only things I am sure that will stay.

People will probably get to keep their positions in clans as well.

Hmmm...i see jins point...maybe you could "earn them back" lets say you got curse seal as an anbu then once you re-reach anbu you could have it back if you got cs2 as a grand hokage once you re-reach grand hokage you can have cs2 back. ALso im sure cs and sst will still be available to players even if they have kekkei genkai.

No, if I got my CS at hokage, I do not want to wait that long.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 13, 2007, 08:21:19 PM


No, if I got my CS at hokage, I do not want to wait that long.
[/quote]

Maybe not that, but get it as all players can get the CS and SST :roll:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihazi on December 13, 2007, 08:25:14 PM
Maybe not that, but get it as all players can get the CS and SST :roll:

What?
I'm sure CS/SST is available with KG.

Well if I can keep the dwellings for my clan, good-bye 220 somthing oro kills, all i care about is my clans well being

Then your clan members need to stop freeloading off you and buy their own dwellings.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 13, 2007, 08:41:05 PM
No, im a nice person, another thing do we lose are clans XD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 13, 2007, 08:45:41 PM
Maybe not that, but get it as all players can get the CS and SST :roll:

What?
I'm sure CS/SST is available with KG.

Well if I can keep the dwellings for my clan, good-bye 220 somthing oro kills, all i care about is my clans well being

Then your clan members need to stop freeloading off you and buy their own dwellings.

I wasn't meaning without the kekkei Genkai, like:
I reborn again, and I am a happy acad again, I train hard until I get
the required rank to get the SST or CS like all players do.
lol I confused myself
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihazi on December 13, 2007, 09:09:00 PM
That's how it should be if we lose CS/SST.
Get it the old fashion way.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Duelist on December 13, 2007, 09:15:25 PM
I think we should be able to keep the CS/tatoo, just not be able to use them until the regular Dk level for getting these is reached (the level when the cs/tatoo is first available to all players ...) and I say get rid of dwellings....we already have way too many in the hamlet registry!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 13, 2007, 09:20:09 PM
I think we should be able to keep the CS/tatoo, just not be able to use them until the regular Dk level for getting these is reached (the level when the cs/tatoo is first available to all players ...) and I say get rid of dwellings....we already have way too many in the hamlet registry!

They will look like abandoned dwellings I think.
but well if I have to lose my dwelling to get a kekkei Genkai
then bye bye dwelling, I can build another one later  ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 13, 2007, 09:21:33 PM
thats treehouses, I have 5 people using my castle and the max amount in cityhouses
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: atomkai on December 13, 2007, 09:27:40 PM
I agree completely with Mihazi.

SST, CS1 & 2, Dwellings - All go.  You are starting over as a character!

I think donation points, avs, any donation points put into forest fight or turns, custom weapons, etc. should all stay.

Also, there would have to be HEAVY incentive to switch, right? 

I mean, I know there has been talk about making sure it is not "overpowered", but I want it to be worth the sacrifice.

Oh, and I like Mihazi's idea of 2 DK points per DK (at least for the first few).
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: shadoww on December 13, 2007, 09:32:05 PM
what is the oro kill count for it some people told me 80 some told me 150 so idk what to think now
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Koneko on December 13, 2007, 09:36:43 PM
MoTD!

"Kekkei Genkai
Neji – 2007-12-13 20:13:29

For all above or equal 80 Oro Kills

I have completed

-Hyuuga
-Uchiha
-Maito Gai (8 Gates)

as unique and kekkei genkai abilities.

I will put them into service very soon, BUT beware of the following:


YOU WILL LOSE ALL GOLD, GEMS, LEVELS, ORO KILLS, SPENT ORO POINTS, AND MUCH MORE IF YOU CHOOSE THIS! YOU WILL GO BACK TO BEING ACADEMY STUDENT!!
"
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: BlazeShadow on December 13, 2007, 10:33:10 PM
im sure Kboogi and Blaze would disagree... :D

better beleive ... no im not going to complete that sentence..... your darn right

Also im sure Behrle would join the 2 first ESST users in opposing a reset of the ESST, CS maybe, thats easy to get, ESST, the fact it's been a year and no one else has it shows just how difficult it is

but i got to say im against that kind of reset, you work all that time to get to where you are and it's deleted
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: asdfjkl on December 13, 2007, 10:37:23 PM
what about names....there are people that have liked their character but have been wanting to change it's name, i think some people would like to be able to change the names of the character recieving kekkai genkai. we lose all those things cause we don't remember anything when we are reborn with kekkai genkai, that should include our names :)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: atomkai on December 13, 2007, 10:52:46 PM
Good point, Chris. 

A perfect opportunity for a name change.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 13, 2007, 10:53:36 PM
I agree, if were gonna lose everything let us change are name
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 13, 2007, 11:09:45 PM
I agree, if were gonna lose everything let us change are name

changing the name it is great idea, although I will not change my name,
because people already know me as JinEchizen
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 13, 2007, 11:11:00 PM
I think alignment should stay.
Think of it as karma.
If you do good in your first life, that will be the same in your next, and vice versa.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Abysss on December 13, 2007, 11:13:34 PM
Will Kekki Genkai affect pvp? That will probably be how I make my decision.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 13, 2007, 11:14:50 PM
Yea, dont know what exactly but neji said it would unless he changed his mind
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Abysss on December 13, 2007, 11:36:38 PM
Also do we get to pick our Kekki Genkai? I think we should at least get that since we lose so much.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 13, 2007, 11:42:18 PM
Also do we get to pick our Kekki Genkai? I think we should at least get that since we lose so much.
I doubt directly, but there should be some way to make it easy to decide.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 13, 2007, 11:43:25 PM
Also do we get to pick our Kekki Genkai? I think we should at least get that since we lose so much.

I think that Neji said somewhere in the forum that we could choose what kekkei genkai would we want
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Abysss on December 13, 2007, 11:46:17 PM
Also do we get to pick our Kekki Genkai? I think we should at least get that since we lose so much.

I think that Neji said somewhere in the forum that we could choose what kekkei genkai would we want
Good, Sharingan here I come ^^. I hope he makes Dead Bone Pulse later on. That would be Acuna's.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Tsunbro on December 14, 2007, 12:11:29 AM
Hoo Dead Bone Pulse would be GREAT...Thats my favorite kekkai genkai since i started atching naruto.....and later on Rinnegan....and mangekyou sharingan, haku kekkai genkai, sakon and ukon kekkai genkai, mukonton kekkai genkai and a lot more (i think)..............There will be soo much to choose as time passes
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 14, 2007, 12:16:46 AM
im sure Kboogi and Blaze would disagree... :D

better beleive ... no im not going to complete that sentence..... your darn right

Also im sure Behrle would join the 2 first ESST users in opposing a reset of the ESST, CS maybe, thats easy to get, ESST, the fact it's been a year and no one else has it shows just how difficult it is

but i got to say im against that kind of reset, you work all that time to get to where you are and it's deleted
yeah.... you remember gaara? >.>
and how long she tried to get regular cs? >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 14, 2007, 12:22:00 AM
im sure Kboogi and Blaze would disagree... :D

better beleive ... no im not going to complete that sentence..... your darn right

Also im sure Behrle would join the 2 first ESST users in opposing a reset of the ESST, CS maybe, thats easy to get, ESST, the fact it's been a year and no one else has it shows just how difficult it is

but i got to say im against that kind of reset, you work all that time to get to where you are and it's deleted
yeah.... you remember gaara? >.>
and how long she tried to get regular cs? >.>
that was epic XD
I have SST and CS, so... .-.
I think I'll ask Shikki if I can restart his >>;;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: orochimarusnextbody on December 14, 2007, 12:57:28 AM
question: now  since it says people with 80 dks  does that mean as of right now or once someone hits 80 dks they can do it?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 14, 2007, 01:00:07 AM
im sure Kboogi and Blaze would disagree... :D

better beleive ... no im not going to complete that sentence..... your darn right

Also im sure Behrle would join the 2 first ESST users in opposing a reset of the ESST, CS maybe, thats easy to get, ESST, the fact it's been a year and no one else has it shows just how difficult it is

but i got to say im against that kind of reset, you work all that time to get to where you are and it's deleted
yeah.... you remember gaara? >.>
and how long she tried to get regular cs? >.>
I took longer to get SST
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: atomkai on December 14, 2007, 01:05:35 AM
question: now  since it says people with 80 dks  does that mean as of right now or once someone hits 80 dks they can do it?

My understanding:  Once it is "fully implemented", as soon as someone reaches 80DKs, they would have the choice from that point and forward.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 14, 2007, 01:20:22 AM
I agree, if were gonna lose everything let us change are name

Yeah, I dislike my name also, so this would be awesome if we could change.
question: now  since it says people with 80 dks  does that mean as of right now or once someone hits 80 dks they can do it?

My understanding:  Once it is "fully implemented", as soon as someone reaches 80DKs, they would have the choice from that point and forward.

Has there been any word on 'How' you get it, it say you can choose to have it, does that mean  we reach 80 + Dk and we can choose? Or do we have to find some super rare event?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shikki on December 14, 2007, 01:50:48 AM
im sure Kboogi and Blaze would disagree... :D

better beleive ... no im not going to complete that sentence..... your darn right

Also im sure Behrle would join the 2 first ESST users in opposing a reset of the ESST, CS maybe, thats easy to get, ESST, the fact it's been a year and no one else has it shows just how difficult it is

but i got to say im against that kind of reset, you work all that time to get to where you are and it's deleted
yeah.... you remember gaara? >.>
and how long she tried to get regular cs? >.>
that was epic XD
I have SST and CS, so... .-.
I think I'll ask Shikki if I can restart his >>;;
No, i had my account much longer than you, it may just be rotting away but im not letting my hard work go to waste, i have all the tattoos  a castle and a couple of citys
they are not going to be wasted
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 14, 2007, 01:52:17 AM
im sure Kboogi and Blaze would disagree... :D

better beleive ... no im not going to complete that sentence..... your darn right

Also im sure Behrle would join the 2 first ESST users in opposing a reset of the ESST, CS maybe, thats easy to get, ESST, the fact it's been a year and no one else has it shows just how difficult it is

but i got to say im against that kind of reset, you work all that time to get to where you are and it's deleted
yeah.... you remember gaara? >.>
and how long she tried to get regular cs? >.>
that was epic XD
I have SST and CS, so... .-.
I think I'll ask Shikki if I can restart his >>;;
No, i had my account much longer than you, it may just be rotting away but im not letting my hard work go to waste, i have all the tattoos  a castle and a couple of citys
they are not going to be wasted
don't worry, I'm restarting mine <.<
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 14, 2007, 01:54:17 AM
im sure Kboogi and Blaze would disagree... :D

better beleive ... no im not going to complete that sentence..... your darn right

Also im sure Behrle would join the 2 first ESST users in opposing a reset of the ESST, CS maybe, thats easy to get, ESST, the fact it's been a year and no one else has it shows just how difficult it is

but i got to say im against that kind of reset, you work all that time to get to where you are and it's deleted
yeah.... you remember gaara? >.>
and how long she tried to get regular cs? >.>
that was epic XD
I have SST and CS, so... .-.
I think I'll ask Shikki if I can restart his >>;;
No, i had my account much longer than you, it may just be rotting away but im not letting my hard work go to waste, i have all the tattoos  a castle and a couple of citys
they are not going to be wasted
don't worry, I'm restarting mine <.<

Yeah who cares, you can earn it all back, and I'm sure it will be much easier second time around, especially since you'll have a Kekkei Genkai
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shikki on December 14, 2007, 01:58:00 AM
i dont play anymore =]

and i still wont do it unless i have a guarantee that dwellings/tattoos/cs/titles will stay
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 14, 2007, 01:59:42 AM
I say no CS/SST Dwellings... maybe... titles and DP should
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 14, 2007, 02:21:55 AM
im sure Kboogi and Blaze would disagree... :D

better beleive ... no im not going to complete that sentence..... your darn right

Also im sure Behrle would join the 2 first ESST users in opposing a reset of the ESST, CS maybe, thats easy to get, ESST, the fact it's been a year and no one else has it shows just how difficult it is

but i got to say im against that kind of reset, you work all that time to get to where you are and it's deleted
yeah.... you remember gaara? >.>
and how long she tried to get regular cs? >.>
I took longer to get SST
and how long were you trying?
cause I got cs2 before she got regular cs >.>;;;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Camel on December 14, 2007, 02:23:05 AM
Let's stay on topic, please.
Name change was spoken of, the cost would be 10,000 DP
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shikki on December 14, 2007, 02:27:11 AM
do you mean name as in log in or title?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Camel on December 14, 2007, 02:28:00 AM
do you mean name as in log in or title?

Character Name.
Like Enishi <-

lol.

too cheap.

I will do it on SL first, and my inital costs are 10k dp.
and with every change, the more it will cost.

(I won't promote account saling for stats) ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: orochimarusnextbody on December 14, 2007, 02:28:46 AM
another question now will the kekkai genkai count as your jutsu or what?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Camel on December 14, 2007, 02:32:30 AM
another question now will the kekkai genkai count as your jutsu or what?

Kekkei Genkai will count as your bloodline, go study up on which KG has justus and etc.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sushigewd2.0 on December 14, 2007, 02:48:18 AM
would your clan be deleted if you reset?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 14, 2007, 03:04:16 AM
Let's stay on topic, please.
Name change was spoken of, the cost would be 10,000 DP

10,000 DP!?! What! How would pay that much!?!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: atomkai on December 14, 2007, 03:35:55 AM
Let's stay on topic, please.
Name change was spoken of, the cost would be 10,000 DP

10,000 DP!?! What! How would pay that much!?!

I would.

Back on topic - I know the 10,000 DP price was mentioned elsewhere, but I really do think that in exchange for being reborn, and giving up all of your work, getting a name change would not be out of place.

It may not ultimately be approved, but I don't necessarily think it would be out of place in such an event.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 14, 2007, 03:37:39 AM
Let's stay on topic, please.
Name change was spoken of, the cost would be 10,000 DP

10,000 DP!?! What! How would pay that much!?!

I would.

Back on topic - I know the 10,000 DP price was mentioned elsewhere, but I really do think that in exchange for being reborn, and giving up all of your work, getting a name change would not be out of place.

It may not ultimately be approved, but I don't necessarily think it would be out of place in such an event.

Yeah, after we loss so much, and we start again. I would love a fresh start.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 14, 2007, 03:39:46 AM
wait, would you have to type in the new name as your log in name or would I keep the same one?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: orochimarusnextbody on December 14, 2007, 04:51:51 AM
so far what do we know will be lost for a fact?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 14, 2007, 05:05:17 AM
Gold, gems, and mount (unless you have donation Kyuubi)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 14, 2007, 05:54:59 AM
I want to keep my Dwelling, Clan, and Donation Point Bonuses (Be it still in the form of custom names and such, or just a bunch of DP). Period. And if I can't do that... I'll have to use an alt for the Kekkei Genkai :(
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 14, 2007, 05:59:42 AM
And if we're lucky, maybe a new game + kinda thing, like 1 gem for every DK, and 100 gold for every DK? That is pushing it though, if you ask me.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 14, 2007, 06:14:27 AM
And if we're lucky, maybe a new game + kinda thing, like 1 gem for every DK, and 100 gold for every DK? That is pushing it though, if you ask me.

Strife, you've got ages till this would effect you... and yes that would be pushing. And don't double post! :evil:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 14, 2007, 06:43:09 AM
And if we're lucky, maybe a new game + kinda thing, like 1 gem for every DK, and 100 gold for every DK? That is pushing it though, if you ask me.

Strife, you've got ages till this would effect you... and yes that would be pushing. And don't double post! :evil:

Hey, just because it'll be a while before I get there doesn't mean I don't have a say.
And that's exactly why I want that stuff. I believe Feburary will mark one year's time here for me.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 14, 2007, 09:20:03 AM
And if we're lucky, maybe a new game + kinda thing, like 1 gem for every DK, and 100 gold for every DK? That is pushing it though, if you ask me.

Strife, you've got ages till this would effect you... and yes that would be pushing. And don't double post! :evil:

Hey, just because it'll be a while before I get there doesn't mean I don't have a say.
And that's exactly why I want that stuff. I believe Feburary will mark one year's time here for me.

Almost year already? What have you been doing all this time? Wait... I already know... :roll:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on December 14, 2007, 11:37:09 AM
Unfortunately, you DONT get a say. Nobody does, Oliver has already decided that you WILL lose EVERYTHING when you go for kekkai genkai.

The reason is simple, if you get to keep them, new players will keep asking "Why does that guy have this/that/those when he is just a low rank like me?".

Another reason would be because you are an academy student! Acads starts with no gems, no dwelling & can't make one, no clan & can't make one. No nothing.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 14, 2007, 11:43:55 AM
Unfortunately, you DONT get a say. Nobody does, Oliver has already decided that you WILL lose EVERYTHING when you go for kekkai genkai.

The reason is simple, if you get to keep them, new players will keep asking "Why does that guy have this/that/those when he is just a low rank like me?".

Another reason would be because you are an academy student! Acads starts with no gems, no dwelling & can't make one, no clan & can't make one. No nothing.
Yeah I agree, DP is the only thing that should transfer over.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 14, 2007, 12:47:14 PM
Unfortunately, you DONT get a say. Nobody does, Oliver has already decided that you WILL lose EVERYTHING when you go for kekkai genkai.

The reason is simple, if you get to keep them, new players will keep asking "Why does that guy have this/that/those when he is just a low rank like me?".

Another reason would be because you are an academy student! Acads starts with no gems, no dwelling & can't make one, no clan & can't make one. No nothing.
Yeah I agree, DP is the only thing that should transfer over.
I think DP is the one thing that SHOULDN'T pass over. Give them to somebody and start getting more.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 14, 2007, 02:06:26 PM
Alright but seriously 80dks is not alot, for players that have worked hard and have 2, 3, 6 times that amount we should get somthing to keep

I have 80 oro kills on an alt

Why would the clan disappear? Wouldnt you just be an acad as a founder you can do that

Where is neji to settle all this XD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 14, 2007, 02:46:52 PM
i wouldn't mind giving up my clan at all...espicially for a good KG I just want it to come out soon...wait scratch that I want it NOW!! ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 14, 2007, 04:13:43 PM
And dont say acads cant have clans, Sasuke was the leader of the Uchiha clan at acad cause hes the only one left XD So acads can be leaders
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 14, 2007, 04:20:28 PM
And dont say acads cant have clans, Sasuke was the leader of the Uchiha clan at acad cause hes the only one left XD So acads can be leaders

Well if losing a clan is a problem, just be sure to put in the leader position someone you trust, and then join it again, and ask that person to promote you. :roll:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 14, 2007, 04:39:15 PM
I actually wouldnt mind losing my clan id rather keep my gems...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 14, 2007, 04:56:07 PM
Well.

Ok, then let dwellings be.

THOUGH, one major issue: people will buy houses to preserve gems, selling them on the first occasion... which means this would be a way to go around the reset.

If dwellings, then CS+SST will go for sure. I have to do something balanced, and being able to cheat over gems AND CS/SST...

Both are very effective with kekkei genkai, one of the beta testers was very fond of that.

as for spouses, well, ok, let it be.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 14, 2007, 04:58:16 PM
what about clans? will we keep our leader positions? also do you have an approximation of how long until it comes out? 
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 14, 2007, 05:04:51 PM
clans stay.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: orochimarusnextbody on December 14, 2007, 08:52:48 PM
so are the cs/sst going or staying?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 14, 2007, 10:13:58 PM
i hope cs/sst stays and dwellings go because i used up 15 game days dieing for CS and 293 turns(about 10 or so full game days) for CS2 that i'll never get back. Dwellings can be sold before the choice of reset and bought by another clan member plus acads cannot m make cityhouse and castles to begin with. Also dwellings take no effort to make. Gems+Gold+10-20 turns=dwelling. Luck+HP&Gold/Turns=CS/SST.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 15, 2007, 12:08:22 AM
i hope cs/sst stays and dwellings go because i used up 15 game days dieing for CS and 293 turns(about 10 or so full game days) for CS2 that i'll never get back. Dwellings can be sold before the choice of reset and bought by another clan member plus acads cannot m make cityhouse and castles to begin with. Also dwellings take no effort to make. Gems+Gold+10-20 turns=dwelling. Luck+HP&Gold/Turns=CS/SST.
they shouldn't stay.
come on, neji is making kekkei genkai which allows you to be stronger than the average (insert rank here).
you can still get the cs or sst back.
heck, it would be easier this tme aroud seeing as how youknow how to get everything
but do evil/good and chaotic/lawful points stay? ._.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sushigewd2.0 on December 15, 2007, 12:19:48 AM
i have a few questions.

will this be something that shows up in your bio?

and also will collectibles be lost?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 15, 2007, 12:49:30 AM
I don't mind losing CS and SST, gems, gold, etc.


As long as I get to keep my collectibles. >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: asdfjkl on December 15, 2007, 01:24:48 AM
i'm wondering how the 8 gates kekkai genkai works

edit: wondering if we have to reset our accounts 8 times 0.0;;;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Maria on December 15, 2007, 01:44:59 AM
i'm wondering how the 8 gates kekkai genkai works

edit: wondering if we have to reset our accounts 8 times 0.0;;;
That would suck!

As for me, I don't feel like reseting because:

1) I don't have enough dks XD
2) If I did have enough dks, I would wait until they have more KGs
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 15, 2007, 01:50:17 AM
Don't worry, asd, Neji said the gates and Sharingan come fully developed...but the gates would be very damaging on the user(obviously). >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sevilon on December 15, 2007, 03:36:06 AM
i dont wanna lose my title, it took so long to get it, so i hope that stuff stays, cs/sst should go until you get to the same rank you were when you got them, but that would cause neji so many problems setting up a tracking code to see when people got what and when.  i say goodbye cityhouses, treehouses and castles, if your clan is using them, too bad.  so the way i see it, other than dp stuff, i think it should be a clean slate after you get a kekkai genkai. puts a lot less work on neji and the server.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 15, 2007, 04:18:18 AM
i dont wanna lose my title, it took so long to get it, so i hope that stuff stays, cs/sst should go until you get to the same rank you were when you got them, but that would cause neji so many problems setting up a tracking code to see when people got what and when.  i say goodbye cityhouses, treehouses and castles, if your clan is using them, too bad.  so the way i see it, other than dp stuff, i think it should be a clean slate after you get a kekkai genkai. puts a lot less work on neji and the server.
I'd rather that we could get it sooner, since it took over 200 Oro kills to get my SST
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 15, 2007, 04:21:35 AM
Dwellings, so long.
Titles... I got mine at ANBU with a little help from friends. I can do it again. It'll just be this magic concept of working! =D We've done it before >_>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: BlazeShadow on December 15, 2007, 04:26:31 AM
i don't see what the big fuss about KG's are, but considering my position that is understandable.... least all you normal SST users don't have to ponder the benifits of the ESST over potential benifits of KG's
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 15, 2007, 04:27:54 AM
I only have SST and CS XD
I'm resetting .-.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: BlazeShadow on December 15, 2007, 04:29:37 AM
.... why do i get the feeling i'll be about one of a handful not to reset
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: shrimptheguy on December 15, 2007, 04:34:53 AM
i care about kekkei genkai...i just dont wanna give EVERYTHING up


same here
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 15, 2007, 04:45:54 AM
i care about kekkei genkai...i just dont wanna give EVERYTHING up


same here

I don't have any problem in giving everything,
my alignment, well now I know what to do  to have the alignment I want.
charm... well it is not very important,
dwellings, I can do one later.
my rank, it is the most difficult thing to lose, but well I can get it again with hard work and a bit more of time.
my CS2 Well I stop using that thing a long time ago.
the only thing that I will miss will be my mount.  xD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 15, 2007, 04:47:47 AM
I'm not resetting with Tau in a million years>>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: shrimptheguy on December 15, 2007, 04:54:01 AM
i care about kekkei genkai...i just dont wanna give EVERYTHING up


same here

I don't have any problem in giving everything,
my alignment, well now I know what to do  to have the alignment I want.
charm... well it is not very important,
dwellings, I can do one later.
my rank, it is the most difficult thing to lose, but well I can get it again with hard work and a bit more of time.
my CS2 Well I stop using that thing a long time ago.
the only thing that I will miss will be my mount.  xD



Honestly, am not very far in the game so right now i would not mind giving everything up. But when i get to a certain point i would not do it.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihazi on December 15, 2007, 05:19:10 AM
I'm not resetting with Tau in a million years>>

Same here with Konoho. I really doubt I will reset.
People with Kekkei Genkai, I wonder if they will ever defeat me?
Maybe when I quit.

What about alginment?
I don't care where I rank in that, but rather if I am good or bad because that determines some big events.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 15, 2007, 05:39:56 AM
I'm not resetting with Tau in a million years>>

Same here with Konoho. I really doubt I will reset.
People with Kekkei Genkai, I wonder if they will ever defeat me?
Maybe when I quit.

What about alginment?
I don't care where I rank in that, but rather if I am good or bad because that determines some big events.
I am #2 in good.
I care.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 15, 2007, 06:17:19 AM
I'm looking forward to a fresh start, now that I actual know what I'm soing this time around, but I still have a feeling I'll attack Grand Hokages at Acad still 8P
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 15, 2007, 06:51:01 AM
I just don't wanna lose all of my alignment stuff >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihazi on December 15, 2007, 09:11:24 AM
I'm not resetting with Tau in a million years>>

Same here with Konoho. I really doubt I will reset.
People with Kekkei Genkai, I wonder if they will ever defeat me?
Maybe when I quit.

What about alginment?
I don't care where I rank in that, but rather if I am good or bad because that determines some big events.
I am #2 in good.
I care.

What does being #2 in good do for you besides bragging rights?

Wow, I have 9000 charm although all I really need is 100 charm.

Does KG > ESST?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 15, 2007, 11:40:54 AM
well, I will be precise:

plan is:

dwellings stay
sst/cs go
alignment stays
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 15, 2007, 01:00:59 PM
Good on ya Neji, I love ya buddy, and would like to say thanks.
*Ish not sucking up...*
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 15, 2007, 01:52:12 PM
I get to keep my clan, my houses for the clan, and most impotant my wife, Bye Bye over 230 oro kills

Also i wanted to be in top 50 in oro kills, will do that in about 2 days, and defeat KamuiKachi in a pvp, did that :P

So im ready bring on the Kekkei Genkai
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: orochimarusnextbody on December 15, 2007, 03:46:03 PM
neji why do you do this to us! took forever to get the cs2 grrrrr, what about the rasengan and stuff like that , now on the second reset will you lose anything more or less then the first reset?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Abysss on December 15, 2007, 04:01:49 PM
well, I will be precise:

plan is:

dwellings stay
sst/cs go
alignment stays

I think alighnment should go too, after all you are starting out a new paerson. Plus the if the player is too far down on one alignment they have no change of turning to the other.

Anyway, goodbye Curse Seal ;_; I'll miss you.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 15, 2007, 04:04:29 PM
Goodbye SST and CS; with *spoiler* gone I won't be able to get you both easily and therefore be too lazy to try >_>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: orochimarusnextbody on December 15, 2007, 04:09:29 PM
neji youve lost major respect points for the cs/sst thing *marks neji down alot points*
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sushigewd2.0 on December 15, 2007, 04:14:08 PM
neji youve lost major respect points for the cs/sst thing *marks neji down alot points*
its kind of lame for an acad to have a KG and a seal.....

also, neji, any ideas of what other KGs are coming out? I dont know if i should wait or not.....
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Marior92 on December 15, 2007, 05:00:43 PM
I'd like to keep my CS. But my real question is:
Do we keep custom titles, custom weapon names and armor names, ect?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 15, 2007, 05:06:20 PM
I'd like to keep my CS. But my real question is:
Do we keep custom titles, custom weapon names and armor names, ect?
Neji already said no.
But custom weapon and armor is questionable .-. Probably not, though...

neji youve lost major respect points for the cs/sst thing *marks neji down alot points*
Honestly, why do you really care? We'll just earn them again.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 15, 2007, 05:28:20 PM
Common it is not really difficult to get CS or sst,
and if they are gone, it means that KG is stronger than them.  :D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Marior92 on December 15, 2007, 05:50:43 PM
I'd just like to keep my points..and would it be against the rules to give your points to a freind, get the kekkei genaki and have your freind give them back?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: orochimarusnextbody on December 15, 2007, 06:04:17 PM
neji youve lost major respect points for the cs/sst thing *marks neji down alot points*
Honestly, why do you really care? We'll just earn them again.
[/quote]

because it took me forever, i wouldnt mind if like once we got to the rank to get them we get them back instantly, i wouldnt mind that but the fact that there going away iw aisted alot of time getting them!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 15, 2007, 06:05:51 PM
I got SST at Sannin and CS at Grand Hokage. I don't care if I lose them temporarily. I'll just get them after hitting jounin.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 15, 2007, 06:07:43 PM
well, I will be precise:

plan is:

dwellings stay
sst/cs go
alignment stays

I think alighnment should go too, after all you are starting out a new paerson. Plus the if the player is too far down on one alignment they have no change of turning to the other.

Anyway, goodbye Curse Seal ;_; I'll miss you.
it's karma >.>
it's just a second life >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: asdfjkl on December 15, 2007, 06:26:20 PM
i swear, KG bettter be GREAT if we are resetting everything (CS,CS2,SST,Dk's) to get it. Also, maybe we should get 50 dk points per dk instead of 25 until we hit the 80 dk mark again since we are losing our custom titles for our names and weapon/armor....unless you want people to use thier alts to obtain custom titles by transfering points....which is illegal of course

i am for alignment being reset since we start out as a new person
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Samantha on December 15, 2007, 06:32:34 PM
I believe that the dwelling, CS, alignment, and gems should all be reset. I flew pass everything because of my dwelling.  I simply went to my castle and it was end of story.  Don't get me wrong it helped that I had plenty of turns but I was able to fly through because of my castle.   
In addition, this is the one chance for everyone to start over on alignment.  For a long time people have been asking Neji about resetting their alignments, this also gives younger members their chance to shine and have their names on top of some of the hall of fame categories (most good, chaotic, evil, DKs).  Veterans of the game, make way for the younger members, very much like how Jiraiya and Tsunade are preparing the young leaf village shinobis to take over one day.  The implementation of the kekkei genkai is just that, the time for us to slide over and let those behind us lead (That is until we catch them again.)   There are plenty of things I would like to keep during the reset, but I realize just like all of you that if I am willing to reset that it is and should be a complete reset.  This is the death or better yet the reincarnation of your account. 
I understand that some founders and others have many people in there dwellings that are dependent upon them.  However, both you and I know that most of the powerful people in the game have alts that will supply dwellings (although the dwelling will have to be cityhouses and not castles) for the people that reset. For those that don't have alts, clans have other players that can supply dwellings for there members. It's no secret that many people have multiple keys to 4 different castles and cityhouses. 
I'm in agreement that the only thing worth transferring is just donation points.  Everything else would be too much of a benefit for people resetting.  It should be difficult, because of the reset people have no idea of their evil ways or good ways.  They have to decide on there path through their current actions not on there decisions of the past.   ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 15, 2007, 06:51:58 PM
We cant go to are castle until 50 oro kills, and I had at 53 oro built my castle, im just getting there 3 oro kills ahead, and besides I know people not reseting, im sure we all do, and we will use there key so just keep them
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 15, 2007, 07:11:34 PM
that brings up the question... do Hoshi and Stone access roll over?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Ulrich on December 15, 2007, 07:15:25 PM
I believe...if you get the kekkei genkai and reset your account, you would have a hard time getting to Hoshi and Stone. I think dwellings and CS/SST should stay. Your already taking away mostly everything that matters from us. Why not let us keep a few good things.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 15, 2007, 07:18:09 PM
that brings up the question... do Hoshi and Stone access roll over?

I think that we are going to wait until we can access those places again  :(
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: BugWarrior on December 15, 2007, 07:20:42 PM
Hmm, as much as I want to disagree with Shikamaru, he is right.  We should start over completely, that includes gems, rank, dwellings, mounts, and alignment.  With all the complaining of experienced players, I couldn't tell if you guys are actually veterans of the game.
If you can get a key from someone else, great.  That means that person can give keys to other memebers of your clan as well.  Therefore you don't need your dwelling and shouldn't have it after a reset anyway.  It also means that the best case scenario for you is a cityhouse and not a maximum withdraw from a castle.   
What type of sense is it to have particular academy students have dwellings while others can't.  Remember balance?  If we whine and complain like this, what are those people who look to us as mentors suppose to think?  Just reset everything, with the exception of DP.  I can't believe that we are trying to hang on to every little thing like we never played this game before.  It's sad.   :-x
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 15, 2007, 07:27:09 PM
Balance? Whining? Spend a year making your account as complete as ours and call us pathetic again. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: BugWarrior on December 15, 2007, 07:40:17 PM
I have spent over a year as well on my account.  I've come to the realization that this is a reset,  a complete reset.  Fighting it and kicking and screaming won't do anything to better the situation.  It is a rebirth for those that decide to do it. 
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 15, 2007, 07:55:49 PM
Keep alignment and dwellings, get rid of CS, SST, and acess. Meaning, you have to *** to get back to stone and get to sannin for Hoshi.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: WViper on December 15, 2007, 08:05:40 PM
Will collectibles be lost?
Also, when you said we will keep dwellings, I asummed this meant castles too. Will we be able to access them? And if not, will they still be there anyways?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 15, 2007, 08:08:23 PM
Only people that are complaining about the SST and CS and CS2 are the people who had bad luck getting them, you guys might get them right away this time around
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 15, 2007, 08:26:04 PM
wait... we would have to pay (insert amount) (insert monetary object) for stone again? x.x
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 15, 2007, 08:41:33 PM
I have spent over a year as well on my account.  I've come to the realization that this is a reset,  a complete reset.  Fighting it and kicking and screaming won't do anything to better the situation.  It is a rebirth for those that decide to do it. 
Well, you still shouldn't belittle people for negotiating. It's hard to give up most of what you worked for, even though I'm completely willing to give up just about everything.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 15, 2007, 09:07:00 PM
Go ahead and reset alignment...but not DP. ;__; That's just silly.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 15, 2007, 09:47:55 PM
I agree with Shigeo. If DP is reset, I'll just get all the DP I need for titles and stuff and give it to an alt, then give it back once I've gotten a Kekkei Genkai. And that means I'd probably have to get 160 kills before I get it...

I'm always so slow ;.;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 15, 2007, 10:12:58 PM
i actually don't care about what i lose anymore since i have keys to other peoples dwelling and none of my own. My CS2 is expendable and i only use it for orochimaru and everything else comes and goes. I've been through 10 mounts since joining little more than a year ago and i don't mind it. If i hadn't bought the collectables my gems would have been reset anymore so those can go aswell.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sevilon on December 16, 2007, 12:25:55 AM
well, I will be precise:

plan is:

dwellings stay
sst/cs go
alignment stays


you didnt mention dp stuff at all
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Abysss on December 16, 2007, 12:32:55 AM
well, I will be precise:

plan is:

dwellings stay
sst/cs go
alignment stays


you didnt mention dp stuff at all
I am pretty sure dps will disappear as well, he even said it somewhere if I remember.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: asdfjkl on December 16, 2007, 12:48:40 AM
ALIGNMENT SHOULD GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE STARTING OVER SO ALIGNMENT SHOULD NOT STAY AT ALLLLLL
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 16, 2007, 12:49:35 AM
ALIGNMENT SHOULD GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE STARTING OVER SO ALIGNMENT SHOULD NOT STAY AT ALLLLLL
stop spamming
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: asdfjkl on December 16, 2007, 12:53:57 AM
excuse you but i'm not spamming, i'm stating my opinion
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 12:58:10 AM
Loud and obnoxiously....with 10 quotation marks
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: asdfjkl on December 16, 2007, 01:00:06 AM
yes, loud and obnoxiously but not spamming ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Samantha on December 16, 2007, 01:10:18 AM
I agree that alignment should be reset as well.  I mean with the reset, the new character has no recollection of evil or good, and has no past, it is equal to when we all first created our account for the first time (Of course when all of us created our accounts we didn't have the alignment function at all, but I'm sure all of you understand that it begins with being neutral, then choosing your path of alignment by your actions).   
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihazi on December 16, 2007, 01:35:06 AM
Yes, alignment should go.
Karma?
Well, karma determines what you are in your next life, but you are given a new slate/chance to better yourself.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Although I doubt we'll have something like this...
Getting into religious matters.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 16, 2007, 01:40:31 AM
Hold on. If alingment is reset, and Booger tries to get a KG, like he tries getting everything else, then I will be #1 in good...


I agree with Mihazi!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Abysss on December 16, 2007, 02:12:59 AM
Hold on. If alingment is reset, and Booger tries to get a KG, like he tries getting everything else, then I will be #1 in good...


I agree with Mihazi!
KBoogi already made it clear he won't be resetting his account.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Albedo on December 16, 2007, 03:59:11 AM
just to say my thoughts im ok with loseing eveything except my houses, CS1&2, and all my DP related purchases
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 16, 2007, 04:08:35 AM
I can see why we would lose everything that's been stated, except for DP. :\ If someone were to donate and then go for a KG, does it make sense for them to lose all the points they just obtained?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihazi on December 16, 2007, 04:36:19 AM
Let's concentrate on what should stay. It should be easier.

Donation Points
What's the point in taking that away?
People will just transfer them to a friend and transfer it back if it isn't kept as someone pointed out earlier.
You restart as an academy student. Dks will not come easy especially since the game is harder.
My dps come from oro killing, so slower oro kill speed means less dps.

Clan position, but mainly Founder because there can only be one founder.
Although I think there is a way around it.

Spouses?
It's mainly for roleplay.
I haven't experienced the new system entirely, so I don't know if there are any marriage buffs.
Although the ring sounds expensive, so getting remarried seems expensive if you want to get married as soon as you reset.

I listed what I think should stay and not why some things shouldn't.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 16, 2007, 06:01:47 AM
wait, you can get married now?  :shock:

and anyways, meh, don't care anymore, my hp sucks so might as well reset >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Warren on December 16, 2007, 01:15:46 PM
Might come a bit late, also just my opinion, so don't kill me x.x

Donation Points? I agree with previous statements, people would just transfer them off and back. Even if this was somehow repelled, I don't think it would really take that long to gain them back. At most, only the DP that you received through giving real money should stay.

Curse Seal/Seven Star Tattoo? They should go. The only thing they take really is time, and some witt with the Enhanced tattoo. They are both supposed to require work to get them, I recall?

Money and Gems? Erm...nobody should even doubt this one. If you had trouble saving for something then if you start over it ought to be much easier with your already existing knowledge.

Dwellings? Gone. They can be built again, only takes time and effort, just like in real life. Keys? Those can be given again.

Mounts? Gone. They aren't very expensive in the long run, and they will soon be changed anyways.

Companions? Gone. They reset after you kill Orochimaru anyway, and aren't that costly in the first place.

Spouses and flirt status? I suppose these could stay, if thinking roleplay wise.

Hidden Stone Village access? The description says, only the most powerful can get there. Wouldn't be very precise if academy students could get there, no?

Name change? That has been discussed already. 10 000 DP, if you can't pick yourself a name you will like when you create your character.

Rasengan? Should go. If you already have achieved it, then you know what to do already, thus you should get back to your former status quicker.

Did I miss anything? x.x;
Either way, I'm going to reset no matter what we will lose. I already enjoy the forest fighting system as it is, and this is going to make it even better ^^
As for roleplaying, that I'll probably keep it as it is. It'd be a tad too weird for my character to just suddenly be reborn as an acad o.0;;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: BlazeShadow on December 16, 2007, 02:16:08 PM
.... correct me if i read your post wrong warren but did you not just as well say that getting the ink is easy
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sushigewd2.0 on December 16, 2007, 02:27:48 PM
what about HP you got without using DPs.....?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 16, 2007, 02:39:21 PM
Who cares, everything neji said that stays is good, and lose is fine, lets get this party started already, im pretty sure us arguing over what stays and goes is stopping him from starting this up so everyone just be happy were getting to do this, now zip it

Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Duelist on December 16, 2007, 02:40:47 PM
what about HP you got without using DPs.....?

I'm guess its all gone, wouldn't it be unfair if you had 1500 HP vs the 10 of a new acad...

Also, I was wondering if we could keep the NUMBER of dks and pks, in our bio or hall of fame, that we had before we reset...(not the dk points or anything) I mean you did kill oro x number of times, so could it say that some where...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on December 16, 2007, 03:01:53 PM
Gone.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 16, 2007, 03:03:34 PM
Take a screen shot and save it theres your proof you were ranked that high, I did :D

Also neji Please change the The Secret Cave hotkey, h is my thrill seeking button make it y or somthing, it cant be n O.o, im all cunfuzzled now
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 16, 2007, 04:41:49 PM
So byakugan and hachimon tonkou are similar other than the fact of training and stacking times, while the sharigan is just totally different.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 04:48:11 PM
Yeah, the secret cave is getting in my way with it's hotkey ><
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Abysss on December 16, 2007, 04:58:51 PM
Sharingan has to normal play uses? Couldn't we use it to see our opponent's moves? Like we get more hits on them and less on ourselves because of the fact that we can see their moves more clearly.  And if that were put in we could train our eyes at the training grounds.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Eonwe on December 16, 2007, 05:05:40 PM
I think all dragon points and their effects should vanish...
mounts may stay...
all extra HP and sst/cs should stay as well...(i mean hp not gained due to oropoints...)
and all don points should stay!!
don't forget: they're no real acads again...
its no comparison...
and why is an acad too strong just cause of sst/cs???
and don't forget baluski event, those with too musch HP will lose it immediatelly...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 16, 2007, 05:23:08 PM
How about a compromise with the SST/CS
If you had them when reseting, the odds to get them are tipped in your favor.
Maybe by, say 10-25%
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 16, 2007, 05:25:54 PM
I think all dragon points and their effects should vanish...
mounts may stay...
all extra HP and sst/cs should stay as well...(i mean hp not gained due to oropoints...)
and all don points should stay!!
don't forget: they're no real acads again...
its no comparison...
and why is an acad too strong just cause of sst/cs???
and don't forget baluski event, those with too musch HP will lose it immediatelly...
you just contradicted yourself, dragon points are essentially the same as donation points and there is no way to pick which point is from dk and which is from donation. My question is once you pick a kekkei genkai do you have to stick with it and if you can pick a different one at the second reset will you have the abilities of both?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sky on December 16, 2007, 05:59:00 PM
I agree with a good selection of what was already said.

The only ones that shoot out to me, are keeping Title, DP, and dwellings. Otherwise, the rest can go >=D

*And If an acad has a castle, it gives them a reason to get to hoshi quicker >>*
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sushigewd2.0 on December 16, 2007, 06:00:08 PM
i think every reset should take 10-15 more/less DKs than the last one, each one should be easier/harder than the last one.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: caquricon on December 16, 2007, 06:34:56 PM
Also neji Please change the The Secret Cave hotkey, h is my thrill seeking button make it y or somthing, it cant be n O.o, im all cunfuzzled now

Agreed. The Secret Cave hot key needs to be changed... maybe you can change it to v


i think every reset should take 10-15 more/less DKs than the last one, each one should be easier/harder than the last one.

No. If this were to happen then stacking the KG will just get easier until it only takes a few oro kills to reset
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sushigewd2.0 on December 16, 2007, 06:36:48 PM
Also neji Please change the The Secret Cave hotkey, h is my thrill seeking button make it y or somthing, it cant be n O.o, im all cunfuzzled now

Agreed. The Secret Cave hot key needs to be changed... maybe you can change it to v


i think every reset should take 10-15 more/less DKs than the last one, each one should be easier/harder than the last one.

No. If this were to happen then stacking the KG will just get easier until it only takes a few oro kills to reset

note that i said easier or HARDER... im just saying that it shouldnt stay the same
maybe a 10 DK difference is a little much though
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 07:07:03 PM
Changing the amount of DK's is not a good idea making it more or less...80 DK's should stay a set number it makes things less confusing.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 07:32:05 PM
2nd to get it!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 16, 2007, 07:45:26 PM
It won't let me get it. ;_;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Abysss on December 16, 2007, 07:47:57 PM
Yeah why can
t anyone else get it?...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 16, 2007, 07:49:47 PM
Because Neji's mean! >:(
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 16, 2007, 07:59:26 PM
when i asked neji said, "it was a fault to begin with. several issues need to be addressed."
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 08:18:33 PM
xP The option somehow opened up to me, czar, aptech, and Doom.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 08:41:45 PM
I was either first or third to have it! woot woot! all bow down before me!  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 16, 2007, 08:48:50 PM
I was either first or third to have it! woot woot! all bow down before me!  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Never <__<
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 08:51:39 PM
Wait, didn't you have it taken away though? So...as soon as it re opens, first, as well as third, becomes re available.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Uchiha on December 16, 2007, 08:51:52 PM
how come it wont let anyone else get it  :cry:

when is the true release date?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 08:53:38 PM
No i still have it and its not getting taken away to my knowledge. :P now back on topic BOW FOOLS! :P :P
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 08:54:14 PM
that's awesome. Yes, I would like to know when the release date for all is...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 16, 2007, 08:55:00 PM
so.

dwellings stay.

cs/sst gone.
full stop.

akatsuki access, gone.

hidden stone, gone.

hp=10

Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 08:56:34 PM
Neji cmage just told me i get to keep my cs and KG is that truue?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Uchiha on December 16, 2007, 09:00:46 PM
Even though i think we should get more health when is it coming out???!?!?! :evil:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 09:06:30 PM
Neji is taking away my KG oh the humanity!!!!!!! :cry:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 16, 2007, 09:08:21 PM
neji already did.

4 people reset ... and basically exploited a small loophole when I was testing the new saver that makes a backup before a rest.

sadly, now I have extra work adapting the 4 AND the module.

so, I am resetting stuff.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:09:43 PM
see what happened czar!? :( now we wait longer. Bow Nothing!!!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Uchiha on December 16, 2007, 09:10:07 PM
damn that means its gonna take even longer.   damn loopholes >.<
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 09:12:06 PM
my gloating was well deserved if anyone had it like me you would have all done the same...Neji so is my account gonna be reset to my grand hokage point gems and everything?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:12:40 PM
lol, wouldn't that suck if he said no?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:13:34 PM
Wouldn't it be awesome if he said no???
Dude, I'd like to keep the kekkai genkai
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:15:06 PM
I'd be gracious and at least give him 80 kills, because how was he to know that it was a temp thing?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:15:55 PM
We get to keep it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1  :D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 09:16:47 PM
I know tau i just learned back to the bowing infidels!!! :twisted:
FIRST TO HAVE IT WOOT!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Uchiha on December 16, 2007, 09:17:14 PM
no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:17:51 PM
I really do hate/love you. Love b/c soon I will have too. Hate b/c I don't have now :*(
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:18:49 PM
2nd! 2nd to have it!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Uchiha on December 16, 2007, 09:20:36 PM
wonders which one of taus accounts has it >>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:21:00 PM
noohohoho.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:22:06 PM
xD
Genjuro.

I don't have that many accounts for you haters who still think I have 20.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 09:22:32 PM
I shall forever be remembered as Czarguy thye ultimate Kekkei genkai sharingan master of the world!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:22:57 PM
Uchihas rule!

me, czar, and  doooooomm
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Uchiha on December 16, 2007, 09:24:41 PM
when is the release date >.<
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:26:32 PM
It has to be soon.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:28:45 PM
yea, from what I understand, he was going to check a few things on the models, and then reset the 4's accounts. But he never reset the accounts, so I assume he'll be done within the next day or so.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:29:59 PM
He said us 4 just lose our CS's but keep our Kekkai Genkais>>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:31:34 PM
and I imagine that wasn't that difficult to do, seeing as how you found out you could keep them within 15 minutes or less.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:34:19 PM
I like that I'm keeping it, yes... O_o
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:40:44 PM
lol, who wouldn't? Though, I'm not sure if I want to be first for byakugan or go for sharingan as well.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Uchiha on December 16, 2007, 09:40:51 PM
>.<
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:42:12 PM
Aptech has byukugan
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:43:01 PM
that sucks. Oh well, sharingan it is.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:43:19 PM
Envious xD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:44:13 PM
quite possibly. Either way, the best things come for those who wait. Don't be impatient, I'm not.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:45:06 PM
xP But the best things already came xD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:47:49 PM
true, yet others have yet to receive. And, it's still considered the best thing so far. So, it'll come.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 16, 2007, 09:48:04 PM
you still lost to neji XD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:48:55 PM
Kekkai Genkai is amazing, I wouldn't consider it the best. Think of Kyuubi and Rasengan and Curse seal.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Uchiha on December 16, 2007, 09:50:46 PM
i read the little thingy and from the looks of it byakugan is the best =P
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:51:19 PM
I was not fortunate enough to receive the Rasengan in time. :P Curse Seal is good, as I have used it every game day, CS2 occasionally for oro, and kyuubi is man's true best friend. Kekkei will be another friendly adaptation. As for Byakugan, what will you do? Poke them? Poke them more? I'll stick with Uchiha.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 09:51:50 PM
no byakugan is the cheapest...but their all good
and someone already has byakugan...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:53:18 PM
I know-aptech. It's been stated b4. I'd think that Sharingan would be cooler, because of more variants in techniques, yet Byakugan would be continues poking.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:54:01 PM
They'll all be "cool"...duh.

People don't get to keep rasengan just because they were on during the glitch O_____o
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 16, 2007, 09:54:55 PM
rasengan was true pwnage and neji said sharingan was the cheapest XD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 09:56:27 PM
xP
Yay, my rasengan and sharingan xD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 09:57:54 PM
you have rasengan, tau?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 10:00:17 PM
I've had it for awhile...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 10:01:02 PM
hmm...I heard that it wasn't too strong, to make it more fair.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 16, 2007, 10:02:45 PM
it did 600 for me on oro
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 16, 2007, 10:03:35 PM
K.. Neji still hasn't said anything about DPs has he? >:O
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 10:05:32 PM
It's strong...



and I kept my donation points and title..
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 10:06:03 PM
yea, other than your hq points, you pretty much start from the beginning, meaning you lose ur atk, def, hp extra, and ff points.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 10:06:39 PM
Byakugan is the cheapest bveelieve me i know
sharingan is best overall
and 8 gates is super strong but exhausting neji said it somewhere i just cant remember where
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 10:07:03 PM
I want Kaguya>>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 10:07:16 PM
possibly in the cave. what's kaguya like?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 16, 2007, 10:08:45 PM
possibly in the cave. what's kaguya like?

The kaguya is the bone kekkei genkai, the one in were you can manipulate your bones as you wish.
But it is not in the cave yet.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 10:08:50 PM
No. It's not out yet.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 10:09:15 PM
I need to get BanditZabuza 10 more dks and I'll reset him and try Byukugan.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 10:11:27 PM
oh, I see. Alright-yea it looked pretty cool. It kinda sucks that Gaara's wasn't a kekkei genkai, but neji put it in as a jutsu.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 16, 2007, 10:12:32 PM
There can't be a kekkei genkai for everything
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Koneko on December 16, 2007, 10:13:41 PM
-_-;

First of, i think the Regular ones like,
Akamachi, Inuzka(ME WANTS!) Nara, and the konoha ones should be added.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 16, 2007, 10:15:08 PM
yes, yes, I know...I need the 3 genkai for everyone else to come out soon.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 10:16:02 PM
and how do you suggest inuzaka be done? you cant say you want it it actually takes some thought....-.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 16, 2007, 10:17:51 PM
-_-;

First of, i think the Regular ones like,
Akamachi, Inuzka(ME WANTS!) Nara, and the konoha ones should be added.

But I think that they are just secret techniques of their clans, not Kekkei Genkai.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 16, 2007, 10:19:26 PM
No i think they are bloodline limits.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: snakeyee on December 16, 2007, 10:29:38 PM
Wonders if the uzimaki swirl will be a kekkei genkai in the future??
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 16, 2007, 10:30:23 PM
No i think they are bloodline limits.
They are secret justus.
Anyone can learn them, but no one outside of the clan is taught them.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: BlazeShadow on December 16, 2007, 10:58:24 PM
.... technically ain't the 8 gates also something that can be learned, like the ressangan
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 16, 2007, 11:05:30 PM
I suppose so...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 17, 2007, 12:20:04 AM
Kekkei Genkai stuff is stuff that is aquired at birth.
 :D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihazi on December 17, 2007, 12:29:59 AM
I would prefer to lose 80 dks and gain a kekkei genkai, but I know that is not acceptable.

To lose more than the required dk is unfair to the top dk players.
If I was 100 dks, I would reset without a second thought. Even if I was 200 dks, I would reset.
We have become so strong that a kekkei genkai is not enough for us to reset.
Even if we reset, the time it would take us to match our previous strength seems too long.
Same about those that gained the ESST.
Does my dk ranking matter? No, but it shows how much I have to lose.

I'd like something to compensate, but that could cause imbalance.
I have so many dks that I imbalance the game, but that's only because the game is infinite; it's pretty much limitless on how many dks you can earn. If all the high dk people reset then being a hokage increases in it's impressiveness.
If there was a limit to dks then I guess everyone would be sitters.
I think sitters also imbalance the game, but I like imbalances because it may make things overpowered and easy. :roll:

Give me an unlimited pvp range and it would tempt me. :twisted:
Although that is only a dream and imbalanced.

Pretty much why I do not want to reset.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 17, 2007, 12:32:24 AM
very likely in about 18h I will make kekkei genkai public to all.

I think it's safe as most stuff should now work.

if now ;) it's a reset, I can reset just more.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Abysss on December 17, 2007, 12:34:20 AM
So it should be ready by tomarrow night New York time?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 17, 2007, 12:37:40 AM
don't the kabuto kills stay?
Doom's bio has those as well as the CS2, but I know the CS2 is going to be taken away.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 17, 2007, 12:38:13 AM
Doom?

I removed all cs2 stuff from the bios, but you're right. the kabuto stuff needs to go.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Maria on December 17, 2007, 12:38:59 AM
Doom?

I removed all cs2 stuff from the bios, but you're right. the kabuto stuff needs to go.
He means Doomstar
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 17, 2007, 12:47:52 AM
Still there.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w166/shikkifujjin/Doom.jpg)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 17, 2007, 12:49:11 AM
thanks. fixed.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 17, 2007, 12:51:24 AM
Poor Doom XD

I can't wait those 18 hours... >.>;;
or maybe I can and just don't feel like it <<
I think I'll go play LoB instead of doing work =3
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 17, 2007, 12:55:20 AM
I suppose pks are supposed to be removed too?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: kirasu on December 17, 2007, 01:00:48 AM
18 hours? too bad I can't gain 37 oro kills by then...I can't wait.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 17, 2007, 01:03:09 AM
What does Honorable title mean?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 17, 2007, 01:09:50 AM
18 hours? too bad I can't gain 37 oro kills by then...I can't wait.
You can do it! >>
XD

Oh, question: It isn't really important now, but when the second reset comes around, is it possible to stack different kekkai genkais, like Hyuuga and Uchiha?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neo on December 17, 2007, 02:10:12 AM
I can't wait till they're brought out, this'll be amazing.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 17, 2007, 02:12:28 AM
precisely why Neji stated that 18 hours would be the deadline. Meaning not today, Sunday. Think tomorrow after school.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neo on December 17, 2007, 02:21:38 AM
School? You people have school? Too bad, holidays here for me. Meaning more waiting, but less of the learney thing. I hope it matches everyones expectations and maybe one day, I'll have 40 more Oro kills nad maybe I'll join the Ranks of Bloodline holders. Good luck to everyone reseting and I wish you all the best of luck.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 17, 2007, 02:55:06 AM
Neji make them sweat! Keep it closed a few more days...or weeks :roll:
I enjoy all of the attention ive been getting ive gotten like 238238 messages.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 17, 2007, 02:58:49 AM
Go die, czar. ;__; Meanie.

XD But seriously, it's awesome you got it early. Lucky punk.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 17, 2007, 03:02:34 AM
 :P i am one lucky punk this makes up for the 27924 times i tried for sst and failed though. :D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 17, 2007, 03:07:13 AM
:P i am one lucky punk this makes up for the 27924 times i tried for sst and failed though. :D
Boo hoo!
It took me that long, and I was in the top 10 in good!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 17, 2007, 03:15:05 AM
I know that the CS was also a pain to get. I had to die so much for it.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sakuma on December 17, 2007, 05:09:05 AM
how about my incomplete rasengan? :-?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 17, 2007, 06:18:48 AM
I feel special after this >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 17, 2007, 12:36:02 PM
how about my incomplete rasengan? :-?

gone.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 17, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
*laughs*
Go Neji, go neji!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 17, 2007, 11:06:24 PM
What the heck does the sharingan even do? You can activate it...but it doesn't change a thing(as far as I can see)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 17, 2007, 11:12:03 PM
What the heck does the sharingan even do? You can activate it...but it doesn't change a thing(as far as I can see)
Pwned.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sky on December 17, 2007, 11:13:41 PM
What the heck does the sharingan even do? You can activate it...but it doesn't change a thing(as far as I can see)
Pwned.

I used it, but I paid no attention >>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 17, 2007, 11:17:07 PM
I love it!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 17, 2007, 11:23:17 PM
I just want 160+ DK people to be able to use it....It was an unpleasant shock to get on today to find out I had to wait even longer.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 17, 2007, 11:28:14 PM
I say we keep are SST, ESST, CS, CS2 if we reset with more then 160 oro kills
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 17, 2007, 11:29:17 PM
I say we keep are SST, ESST, CS, CS2 if we reset with more then 160 oro kills

No way!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 17, 2007, 11:44:36 PM
I say we keep are SST, ESST, CS, CS2 if we reset with more then 160 oro kills

No. Those are easily reobtained with some patience.

I say give those over 160 kills 2 resets.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 12:11:29 AM
I say we keep are SST, ESST, CS, CS2 if we reset with more then 160 oro kills

No. Those are easily reobtained with some patience.

I say give those over 160 kills 2 resets.
YESH!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 18, 2007, 12:13:02 AM
I give myself 10>>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 18, 2007, 12:18:05 AM
yeah, so far sharingan doesn't seem to do anything ._.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 18, 2007, 12:23:37 AM
maybe we're just not seeing it.----------.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 12:23:42 AM
Too bad you picked it.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 18, 2007, 12:29:48 AM
I still love everything else it comes with  :D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihazi on December 18, 2007, 01:03:13 AM
Sharingan seems to be the most balanced in cost and power.

8 gates -> High power but High cost
Byakugan -> Low power but low cost

What I am guessing...
8 gates seem like CS2 + Taijutsu.
I could probably spam Byakugan, which could make it more useful for leveling.

I thought Byakugan > Sharingan since Oliver's alias is Neji, a Hyuuga. Hoping for bias.
Everyone having sharingan is not canon. (SL doesn't really have its own setting/story)
So I didn't want to be a Uchiha-wannabe.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 18, 2007, 01:10:28 AM
I won't be an Uchiha wannabe....but I will still get Sharingan, as the middle ground seems the best bet right now.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 01:11:49 AM
I won't be an Uchiha wannabe....but I will still get Sharingan, as the middle ground seems the best bet right now.
Same here except I also manages to draw Sharingan eyes on my avy a while ago.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 18, 2007, 01:13:05 AM
I won't be an Uchiha wannabe....but I will still get Sharingan, as the middle ground seems the best bet right now.
Same here except I also manages to draw Sharingan eyes on my avy a while ago.

Bah, I won't draw eyes on mine...mostly because I didn't draw mine. >>

If anything, I will be like...a neutral Orochimaru. >.<
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 01:14:59 AM
I won't be an Uchiha wannabe....but I will still get Sharingan, as the middle ground seems the best bet right now.
Same here except I also manages to draw Sharingan eyes on my avy a while ago.

Bah, I won't draw eyes on mine...mostly because I didn't draw mine. >>

If anything, I will be like...a neutral Orochimaru. >.<
Dude, all I did was just draw them on the little pic over to the right there.
I was bored that day.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 18, 2007, 01:16:51 AM
I won't be an Uchiha wannabe....but I will still get Sharingan, as the middle ground seems the best bet right now.
Same here except I also manages to draw Sharingan eyes on my avy a while ago.

Bah, I won't draw eyes on mine...mostly because I didn't draw mine. >>

If anything, I will be like...a neutral Orochimaru. >.<
Dude, all I did was just draw them on the little pic over to the right there.
I was bored that day.

You mean the left. >.< But anyways, I won't do that...Walking around with Sharingan activated at all times is bound to cause people to wonder if you popped a blood vessel. XD

Ontopic again...I want to get Mangekyou, at least, and by then more Kekkei Genkais will hopefully have been released.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 01:19:48 AM
Itachi does it, and is cool...


But how would Mangekyou be any different? They have three more justus in Uchiha techniques?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 18, 2007, 01:23:09 AM
Well, Itachi is going blind because of it. >.> Too bad for him.

And I believe you will get Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu, and Susanoo.

Tsukiyomi will probably be a massive debuff with a small DoT, Amaterasu may be a big AoE or single shot attack, and Susanoo....er...dunno.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 01:27:38 AM
Well, Itachi is going blind because of it. >.> Too bad for him.

And I believe you will get Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu, and Susanoo.

Tsukiyomi will probably be a massive debuff with a small DoT, Amaterasu may be a big AoE or single shot attack, and Susanoo....er...dunno.
Actually, he s going blind from using Mangekyou.
And what does DoT/AoE mean?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 18, 2007, 01:30:29 AM
Well, Itachi is going blind because of it. >.> Too bad for him.

And I believe you will get Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu, and Susanoo.

Tsukiyomi will probably be a massive debuff with a small DoT, Amaterasu may be a big AoE or single shot attack, and Susanoo....er...dunno.
Actually, he s going blind from using Mangekyou.
And what does DoT/AoE mean?

Was it Mangekyou?  I wasn't paying too much attention. X3

DoT is Damage over Time, and AoE is Area of Effect. I play a lot of MMO's. >.<
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shikki on December 18, 2007, 01:40:53 AM
Mangekyo in general should have minus perm HP from usage

Ametarasu should have a high damage rate, but exhaust alot of chakra

Tsukiyomi should last for a higher amount of rounds seeings as how time is slower in the real world then in the other dimesnion created by it

and susanoo, well i dont knwo what it does so...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 01:44:58 AM
Mangekyo in general should have minus perm HP from usage

Ametarasu should have a high damage rate, but exhaust alot of chakra

Tsukiyomi should last for a higher amount of rounds seeings as how time is slower in the real world then in the other dimesnion created by it

and susanoo, well i dont knwo what it does so...
Kakashi's thing
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shikki on December 18, 2007, 01:47:05 AM
the vortex thing?

well if its that then sucks part of the enemy in making them unable to attack and last for X rounds increasing defence and making high damage to enemy?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 01:55:25 AM
the vortex thing?

well if its that then sucks part of the enemy in making them unable to attack and last for X rounds increasing defence and making high damage to enemy?
How does defense increase?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shikki on December 18, 2007, 02:42:13 AM
well if the opponents arm or leg is gone they cant attack as well meaning your ability to defend yourself is higher =]
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 02:47:01 AM
well if the opponents arm or leg is gone they cant attack as well meaning your ability to defend yourself is higher =]
Isn't that part of not being able to attack?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: caquricon on December 18, 2007, 03:05:46 AM
hmmm... maybe the chidori is one of the levels for sharigan..
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 18, 2007, 03:07:13 AM
hmmm... maybe the chidori is one of the levels for sharigan..

Yeah, maybe, because the Chidori is  truly complete with the Sharingan.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 03:12:41 AM
I thought Neji said a while ago that Chidori is going to be the same as Rasengan?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: caquricon on December 18, 2007, 03:17:38 AM
I thought Neji said a while ago that Chidori is going to be the same as Rasengan?
Well it could be, then i guess you will probably have to be a uchiha to get the event then
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 18, 2007, 04:18:20 AM
Mangekyo in general should have minus perm HP from usage

Ametarasu should have a high damage rate, but exhaust alot of chakra

Tsukiyomi should last for a higher amount of rounds seeings as how time is slower in the real world then in the other dimesnion created by it

and susanoo, well i dont knwo what it does so...
so it's another (ihnsert supa powa here)?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shikki on December 18, 2007, 04:32:03 AM
well if the opponents arm or leg is gone they cant attack as well meaning your ability to defend yourself is higher =]
Isn't that part of not being able to attack?

yes, which is the point, when the opponent cant attack your defence increases with other items/buffs right? so wouldn't a jutsu that strong do the same?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 18, 2007, 04:50:52 AM
I wish to know if Neji is going to give us any sort of information as to what will happen to the 160+ DK players.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Albedo on December 18, 2007, 05:43:21 AM
I wish to know if Neji is going to give us any sort of information as to what will happen to the 160+ DK players.
i second the question
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 18, 2007, 06:05:24 AM
Wait, I'm still not sure what you get to keep if you're under the 160 mark....
But I want to know about the over too, though I probably won't go that far before getting it, if at all.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 18, 2007, 06:09:35 AM
*cough* I love 8 gates*cough*
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 18, 2007, 08:30:35 AM
*Coughs* Sharingan sucks... everyone pick something else...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Koneko on December 18, 2007, 08:36:06 AM
*Coughs* Sharingan sucks... everyone pick something else...

Sharingan does not suck.

If you noticed you Enemys are weaker. -_-
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 18, 2007, 08:37:13 AM
Dude I was joking, trying to get less people choosing it >.<
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Albedo on December 18, 2007, 11:17:51 AM
Dude I was joking, trying to get less people choosing it >.<

DAMN YOU UNTO HELL!  :twisted:*sends ice into Paris Hiltons house*:twisted:

anywho im still waiting no word on how long this is going to take for us 160+ peeps?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 11:50:03 AM
Go to the topic in "Game Related Discussions" to discuss it.
We had a compromise with Mihazi's idea of increasing the number of DK's needed to get a second reset.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thSannin on December 18, 2007, 03:45:14 PM
(offtopic): i just came back after 4-5 months of inactivity ^^

(ontopic): kekkei genkais are finally in! awsome! i already picked uchiha's, since it looked like the best from what the guy in the secret cave said...
anway, i just can't understand what the sharingan does. since i don't see effects or stk/def buff, could it be that it only affects the enemy?

also, i'd like to ask how to get 2 tomoes etc., but i doubt neji would answer that XD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Koneko on December 18, 2007, 03:46:01 PM
(offtopic): i just came back after 4-5 months of inactivity ^^

(ontopic): kekkei genkais are finally in! awsome! i already picked uchiha's, since it looked like the best from what the guy in the secret cave said...
anway, i just can't understand what the sharingan does. since i don't see effects or stk/def buff, could it be that it only affects the enemy?

also, i'd like to ask how to get 2 tomoes etc., but i doubt neji would answer that XD

You start with FULL 3 tomoes.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thSannin on December 18, 2007, 03:52:24 PM
(offtopic): i just came back after 4-5 months of inactivity ^^

(ontopic): kekkei genkais are finally in! awsome! i already picked uchiha's, since it looked like the best from what the guy in the secret cave said...
anway, i just can't understand what the sharingan does. since i don't see effects or stk/def buff, could it be that it only affects the enemy?

also, i'd like to ask how to get 2 tomoes etc., but i doubt neji would answer that XD

You start with FULL 3 tomoes.

i only have 1 tomoe to activate...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 18, 2007, 03:56:04 PM
get more dks
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thSannin on December 18, 2007, 04:05:58 PM
get more dks

kk
so it's normal to start with one << >> <<
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 18, 2007, 04:24:59 PM
byakugan is so-so
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 18, 2007, 04:28:59 PM
When is Neji allowing 160+ DK players access...?  :evil: This is just senselessly cruel now.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Baluski on December 18, 2007, 04:44:27 PM
When is Neji allowing 160+ DK players access...?  :evil: This is just senselessly cruel now.

This has already been asked multiple times now (many by you), stop spamming up the topic please. Be patient, your time will come.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Koneko on December 18, 2007, 04:54:49 PM
(offtopic): i just came back after 4-5 months of inactivity ^^

(ontopic): kekkei genkais are finally in! awsome! i already picked uchiha's, since it looked like the best from what the guy in the secret cave said...
anway, i just can't understand what the sharingan does. since i don't see effects or stk/def buff, could it be that it only affects the enemy?

also, i'd like to ask how to get 2 tomoes etc., but i doubt neji would answer that XD

You start with FULL 3 tomoes.

i only have 1 tomoe to activate...

Yes, youy can only activate SHARINGAN, but that means theres 3 Tomoe. -_-
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 18, 2007, 06:27:01 PM
sharingan has 1 tomoe at first, but each oro kill you get one more.
don't mind, the difference is not that high...


sharingan is bad...believe me. hyuuga has only one real release... the rest simply makes stuff stronger. but they have the attack justus.
sharingan has not. sharingan has 5 (!) additional Katon uses each oro kill permanently.
also, you lower the enemies defense.

and after your second reset, you have Mangekyou, can use Amaterasu and tsukuyomi. And they really hit.

Quote
You have encountered Malevolent Ferocious Dog which lunges at you with Ferocious Bites!

Malevolent Ferocious Dog's Hitpoints (Level 2): 358
YOUR Hitpoints: 1150
Amaterasu - Your dōjutsu burns your enemy with black flames!
You burn your enemy for 401 damage points!
End of Round:
Malevolent Ferocious Dog's Hitpoints (Level 2): a coal recipient
YOUR Hitpoints: 1150

executed at 50 dks with level 10 and 2 resets.
and that was average damage.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thSannin on December 18, 2007, 09:44:12 PM
sharingan has 1 tomoe at first, but each oro kill you get one more.
don't mind, the difference is not that high...


sharingan is bad...believe me. hyuuga has only one real release... the rest simply makes stuff stronger. but they have the attack justus.
sharingan has not. sharingan has 5 (!) additional Katon uses each oro kill permanently.
also, you lower the enemies defense.

and after your second reset, you have Mangekyou, can use Amaterasu and tsukuyomi. And they really hit.

Quote
You have encountered Malevolent Ferocious Dog which lunges at you with Ferocious Bites!

Malevolent Ferocious Dog's Hitpoints (Level 2): 358
YOUR Hitpoints: 1150
Amaterasu - Your dōjutsu burns your enemy with black flames!
You burn your enemy for 401 damage points!
End of Round:
Malevolent Ferocious Dog's Hitpoints (Level 2): a coal recipient
YOUR Hitpoints: 1150

executed at 50 dks with level 10 and 2 resets.
and that was average damage.

not bad ^^

too bad i don't really like katon jutsus, but i like all the extra chackra points
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 18, 2007, 09:54:30 PM
Katon's not my favorite specialty, but it can do some good damage....so whenever use 160+ kill players are able to get a KG, I'll be happy to get Sharingan.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Tsunbro on December 18, 2007, 10:48:54 PM
I Cant wait to Get Kaguya's kekkei genkai.....its just Crazy...i i heard that neji said that kaguya's with CS2 will be the strongest combination in the game....imagine............so much power like that.............in you're Hand!..........
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 10:55:00 PM
I Cant wait to Get Kaguya's kekkei genkai.....its just Crazy...i i heard that neji said that kaguya's with CS2 will be the strongest combination in the game....imagine............so much power like that.............in you're Hand!..........
And then RIGHT before you win against Oro, your terminal disease will kick in and kill you >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 18, 2007, 10:57:57 PM
I Cant wait to Get Kaguya's kekkei genkai.....its just Crazy...i i heard that neji said that kaguya's with CS2 will be the strongest combination in the game....imagine............so much power like that.............in you're Hand!..........
And then RIGHT before you win against Oro, your terminal disease will kick in and kill you >.>

All Kaguyas do not have a disease. >.> it was only Kimimaru.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 10:59:30 PM
I Cant wait to Get Kaguya's kekkei genkai.....its just Crazy...i i heard that neji said that kaguya's with CS2 will be the strongest combination in the game....imagine............so much power like that.............in you're Hand!..........
And then RIGHT before you win against Oro, your terminal disease will kick in and kill you >.>

All Kaguyas do not have a disease. >.> it was only Kimimaru.
Had to make the joke.
But seriously, what other KGs are in Naruto?
Sharingan, Haku, Byakyugan, Kagyua, and Rin'negan.
Everything else will be kind of a stretch.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Tsunbro on December 18, 2007, 11:06:10 PM
Stop Saying That...Kaguya's Dont have a disease...just kimimaro....

There is also the sakon and ukon kekkei genkai!!!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 18, 2007, 11:06:44 PM
There is also the sakon and ukon kekkei genkai!!!
That would be next to impossible to impliment, as it is pointless without another person.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Tsunbro on December 18, 2007, 11:13:36 PM
Yeh i know but i just said the other one....and rinnengan is possibly the last one to be implemented because we don't know much of it yet
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 19, 2007, 12:10:51 AM
sharingan has 1 tomoe at first, but each oro kill you get one more.
don't mind, the difference is not that high...


sharingan is bad...believe me. hyuuga has only one real release... the rest simply makes stuff stronger. but they have the attack justus.
sharingan has not. sharingan has 5 (!) additional Katon uses each oro kill permanently.
also, you lower the enemies defense.

and after your second reset, you have Mangekyou, can use Amaterasu and tsukuyomi. And they really hit.

Quote
You have encountered Malevolent Ferocious Dog which lunges at you with Ferocious Bites!

Malevolent Ferocious Dog's Hitpoints (Level 2): 358
YOUR Hitpoints: 1150
Amaterasu - Your dōjutsu burns your enemy with black flames!
You burn your enemy for 401 damage points!
End of Round:
Malevolent Ferocious Dog's Hitpoints (Level 2): a coal recipient
YOUR Hitpoints: 1150

executed at 50 dks with level 10 and 2 resets.
and that was average damage.

not bad ^^

too bad i don't really like katon jutsus, but i like all the extra chackra points
wait, would it seriously say a coal recipient at the end? >.>
cause that would be cool >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 19, 2007, 12:13:20 AM
Part of the X-mas filter dude.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 19, 2007, 12:14:28 AM
*laughs* Yeah it is
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 19, 2007, 12:18:34 AM
.... ohh >.>;;
aww...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mioku on December 19, 2007, 01:17:55 AM
heh im so getting the Dead Bone Pulse it has both good attack and defense moves and is just in general awesome
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Marior92 on December 19, 2007, 01:20:17 AM
I only need 30 dks till I get the hyuuga kekkei genkai. Then I use my alt as my main, get him up to 80 dks, and hopefully Kaguya will be in by then, and he'll get that.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Ichighost on December 19, 2007, 02:07:21 AM
Ok.. I know this is a late post, and I was too lazy to read more than half the posts to get an idea. But this is how I see it overall, just what makes sense to me:

(some will just be opinion rather than fairness)

Stays:
Dp- all of it, whether DK or spent or referrals, not everyone has the money or the ability to donate. And why should they have to spend another year recovering?
Clans- I just agree
Alignment- should be your choice


Goes:
DK- they're just numbers and the upgrade points will come
dwellings- like is said they can be rebuilt and theres no point.
CS/SST- I know its hard for some people but it is fair (no matter how much i want to keep my CS2)
Mounts/companions- easy
gold/gems- earn, easy
extra hp- gone easy to re-earn
flirt- pointless now anyway with the new system
Hoshi and Stone access- gone is okay, no reimbursement.

*examines his post* Yeah really the only things that should really stay are your DP as it is, and your clans. I really think resetting your alignment should be an option not necessary or denied.

***Ah, and a completely new subject as I see it, we should get to keep the same diverse Jutsu specializations, not have to restart with only Tai and Gen as options.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 19, 2007, 02:25:21 AM
if we could keep the same jutsus, we would be rocketing through the levels o.O
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Ichighost on December 19, 2007, 02:27:35 AM
if we could keep the same jutsus, we would be rocketing through the levels o.O

not really, we'd still get our butts handed to us in a couple hits.
It'd still be fair, because we earned it, and.. well.. it's just fair.  :D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 19, 2007, 06:19:49 AM
need I point out that I could completely pwn most enemies that are in thrillseeking/ suicidally in one or two turns because of one cheap jutsu?

I'm perfectly fine with starting out with taijutsu / genjutsu
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 19, 2007, 06:34:47 AM
sharingan has 1 tomoe at first, but each oro kill you get one more.
don't mind, the difference is not that high...


sharingan is bad...believe me. hyuuga has only one real release... the rest simply makes stuff stronger. but they have the attack justus.
sharingan has not. sharingan has 5 (!) additional Katon uses each oro kill permanently.
also, you lower the enemies defense.

and after your second reset, you have Mangekyou, can use Amaterasu and tsukuyomi. And they really hit.

Quote
You have encountered Malevolent Ferocious Dog which lunges at you with Ferocious Bites!

Malevolent Ferocious Dog's Hitpoints (Level 2): 358
YOUR Hitpoints: 1150
Amaterasu - Your dōjutsu burns your enemy with black flames!
You burn your enemy for 401 damage points!
End of Round:
Malevolent Ferocious Dog's Hitpoints (Level 2): a coal recipient
YOUR Hitpoints: 1150

executed at 50 dks with level 10 and 2 resets.
and that was average damage.

Dang...
And I hear that you keep DP, Clan position and... something else...
Well, as long as my information is correct, It's all good to get a Kekkei Genkai.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: HalfDragonLuka on December 19, 2007, 06:43:36 AM
What I wonder is suppose i max out *insert KG here* Can i decide to go get a different one?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 19, 2007, 07:29:59 PM
Yes you can upgrade them all which would be 10 resets but thatsd take soooooo many oro kills.
Neji if i donate a rather large sum of money can you save me the trouble and just upgrade me Sharingan? hahahaha jk thatd never happen














Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thecrazyanbu on December 19, 2007, 09:15:14 PM
when does the kaguya KG come out?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 19, 2007, 09:53:25 PM
He hasn't even announced it yet.
Besides, you are only a Hunter Nin.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 19, 2007, 09:53:50 PM
"With a rebel yell...MORE MORE MORE... MORE MORE MOOOOOORE"
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 19, 2007, 10:07:25 PM
Yeah, you lot should be grateful with what you've got
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 19, 2007, 11:28:10 PM
Um wheres my second reset ><
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: caquricon on December 19, 2007, 11:47:00 PM
Um wheres my second reset ><
you need to petition for it
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 19, 2007, 11:48:30 PM
Darn it and I just found out all the stuff that comes with sharigan i didnt get lol, and I wasted my turns already ><
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 19, 2007, 11:49:01 PM
Um wheres my second reset ><
No second option.
Automaticly put in two.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 19, 2007, 11:53:15 PM
Lol i didnt read the thing where it said you had to petition, I checked on my alt and sure enough it said petition lol, my bad XD :D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Marior92 on December 20, 2007, 02:10:24 AM
Eh. I'm hoping the kaguya KG will come out by the time I get my Kaguya alt to 80 dks >__>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 20, 2007, 02:24:05 AM
I noticed that when the Hyuga KG is selected, your custom armor name stays but your custom weapon doesn't. Since you can't buy a weapon, this means that it'll just show up as fists. Could we keep the name of our custom weapon, though we can't upgrade it through the shop? .-.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 20, 2007, 04:08:19 AM
I dont like the 2 resets for 160 dks because i was at like 150-154 (cant remember) when i reset before any of this 160 or over talk began. idk i just find it a tad unfair cause if i had known 2 resets=160 dks i wouldve waited 2 extra game days and gotten the 6 or so dks i needed now i have 80 to go and no mangekyou -__-
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 20, 2007, 04:21:24 AM
Czar, it is 200, not 160
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: atomkai on December 20, 2007, 04:25:40 AM
I dont like the 2 resets for 160 dks because i was at like 150-154 (cant remember) when i reset before any of this 160 or over talk began. idk i just find it a tad unfair cause if i had known 2 resets=160 dks i wouldve waited 2 extra game days and gotten the 6 or so dks i needed now i have 80 to go and no mangekyou -__-

Also, the price of being an early adopter?

You have days of experience on those that waited.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 20, 2007, 04:39:08 AM
May I ask when this little deal is being closed? I have 183 kills, and hope to get 200 before it ends....which shouldn't be terribly hard, provided Neji doesn't end it too quickly.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 20, 2007, 05:45:06 AM
Ending? As in this is a limited time event? I'd hope it's not, cuz then it'd go back to godmodding acads who use Mangekyou >>
Without earning it :/
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 20, 2007, 05:59:56 AM
Ending? As in this is a limited time event? I'd hope it's not, cuz then it'd go back to godmodding acads who use Mangekyou >>
Without earning it :/
Shigeo is referring to the time limit for people to get more than one reset
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 20, 2007, 06:10:51 AM
Okay good.
Though I don't understand that whole business and I have read every post so far  :oops:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 20, 2007, 01:57:01 PM
I see 200 is a bit more fair. i thought it was 160  :shock:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 20, 2007, 05:27:02 PM
I need to make the "petition it" bigger.

maybe .... 4 screens long?

there is then a remote option it might be read...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sushigewd2.0 on December 20, 2007, 09:20:58 PM
I need to make the "petition it" bigger.

maybe .... 4 screens long?

there is then a remote option it might be read...
will the multiple resets be available when later KGs are released? im waiting for Kaguya but i dont know if i will only be allowed one reset.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Baluski on December 20, 2007, 09:45:15 PM
I need to make the "petition it" bigger.

maybe .... 4 screens long?

there is then a remote option it might be read...
will the multiple resets be available when later KGs are released? im waiting for Kaguya but i dont know if i will only be allowed one reset.

The multiple resets are only for a limited time as a "special offer" for old school players who had to wait.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 20, 2007, 10:02:43 PM
in other words it's neji's Xmas present to old timers that expires
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 20, 2007, 10:06:50 PM
you might say that  :twisted:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 20, 2007, 10:15:21 PM
And again I must ask, when exactly does it end? >.> I'm close to being able to get two resets...so very close indeed. ;__;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 20, 2007, 10:37:22 PM
I calculate about a week, but will announce it about 24h or 48h before I set a deadline.

It depends how many people reset.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: orochimarusnextbody on December 20, 2007, 10:49:11 PM
i find it rather unfair no mater how many dk's they have, we  had to give up everything we had for the starting ones and so should they
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 21, 2007, 12:41:46 AM
they do, but they get more resets
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sushigewd2.0 on December 21, 2007, 02:01:33 AM
I need to make the "petition it" bigger.

maybe .... 4 screens long?

there is then a remote option it might be read...
will the multiple resets be available when later KGs are released? im waiting for Kaguya but i dont know if i will only be allowed one reset.

The multiple resets are only for a limited time as a "special offer" for old school players who had to wait.
okay, ones fine with me..... i was just wondering if i should get the 11 more DKs to have 200 before i reset.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 21, 2007, 02:17:45 AM
If you get get there in time, heck yea try
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 21, 2007, 04:47:07 AM
I see, thanks for telling me Neji. ^^ Now I know I don't have to blaze through the kills maniacally.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sky on December 21, 2007, 04:54:39 AM
With the new stat reset, it will take longer -_- I am like 10 kills short on an account to reset.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 21, 2007, 06:11:20 AM
If it takes longer for you, you must not be good. >.> I blaze through levels even more easily thanks to it.

Cheers, Neji. Good job on the stats. ^^
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jinsei on December 21, 2007, 02:26:27 PM
Neji, Explain to me the reasoning behind those who are reborn as a Master and those who are reborn as an Initiate..

please
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: atomkai on December 21, 2007, 03:16:34 PM
Due to their massive accomplishments in one life, they are reborn with a better standing in the next.

It is only for a limited time (hopefully until the end of this year), and I am not sure how many people will be actually take advantage of it.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thSannin on December 21, 2007, 03:28:46 PM
question:
i noticed that when i activate the sharingan i get a new option (deactivate sharingan, or something like that) but i also keep the "activate sharingan" one.
if i activate it again, does it make it more powerful, change something, or will i just waste a chackra point?

(i tried pressing it twice, but since i don't know the effect of the sharingan i can't tell if anything changed)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 21, 2007, 03:33:29 PM
Yea pressing it twice doesnt seem to have any effects so i guess its always an open option so that if you do choose to deactivate you can reactivate it next round >___>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thSannin on December 21, 2007, 05:31:15 PM
sharingan has 1 tomoe at first, but each oro kill you get one more.
don't mind, the difference is not that high...


sharingan is bad...believe me. hyuuga has only one real release... the rest simply makes stuff stronger. but they have the attack justus.
sharingan has not. sharingan has 5 (!) additional Katon uses each oro kill permanently.
also, you lower the enemies defense.

and after your second reset, you have Mangekyou, can use Amaterasu and tsukuyomi. And they really hit.

Quote
You have encountered Malevolent Ferocious Dog which lunges at you with Ferocious Bites!

Malevolent Ferocious Dog's Hitpoints (Level 2): 358
YOUR Hitpoints: 1150
Amaterasu - Your dōjutsu burns your enemy with black flames!
You burn your enemy for 401 damage points!
End of Round:
Malevolent Ferocious Dog's Hitpoints (Level 2): a coal recipient
YOUR Hitpoints: 1150

executed at 50 dks with level 10 and 2 resets.
and that was average damage.

i am an uchiha, i got my first dk, and absolutely nothing changed in my jutsus.
is it a bug?

(but i noticed i started with 10 skillpoints as an acad, not 5, so maybe it's normal not to get any with the first dk?)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 21, 2007, 05:52:55 PM
on your first day, you are awared a lot of katon skillpoints.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thSannin on December 21, 2007, 05:54:51 PM
on your first day, you are awared a lot of katon skillpoints.

yeah, 10.
will them be more in the next dks?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Koriuchiha on December 21, 2007, 06:14:15 PM
says u thsannin....

me and mangekyouitachi will find out first if neji dont say anything and hey neji,

will u make a section in the hall of fame for highest oro kill for the uchiha, hyuuga, and maito gai kekkai genkai

and most pks for each individual kekkai genkai


and thats it. message me on SL for the answer please
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 21, 2007, 06:26:38 PM
yea i noticed i didnt get my additional 5 katon pts...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on December 21, 2007, 07:06:55 PM
I haven't won any katon points, I thought That I needed first a dragon kill, but a lot of players already can use katon
and are acads.
I am wodering if is a bug or something?  :roll:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sephiroth on December 21, 2007, 08:54:32 PM
Ha if that had worked I would have found out. I got 3 dks already and i see no difference between 1 tomoe, 2 tomoe or 3 tomoe
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 21, 2007, 08:56:01 PM
i see no difference betweeen 1 and 2 tomoes but i bet its like an upgraded 1 tomoe
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on December 21, 2007, 11:14:56 PM
I'm sure that it does make a difference, but it is hidden befind the scenes, so you can not see it.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on December 22, 2007, 02:32:22 AM
i'm glad i got byakugan
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 22, 2007, 04:22:49 AM
I think it does stuff to the enemy ._.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 22, 2007, 01:03:27 PM
you should have gotten the katon points.

if not, tell us via petition.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thSannin on December 22, 2007, 01:14:55 PM
you should have gotten the katon points.

if not, tell us via petition.


so, should i have 10 or 15 katon points at my 2nd dk?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 22, 2007, 02:53:12 PM
What is katon points?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 22, 2007, 03:25:38 PM
Sharingan users get extra katon points right away.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jinsei on December 22, 2007, 05:23:12 PM
So, Neji. Will the Person born as an Initiate be able to gain the "Master" status? Since those who are reborn of Master Status are not Initiates.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 22, 2007, 05:31:09 PM
Quote
so, should i have 10 or 15 katon points at my 2nd dk?

hm. 5
?

like every?

well, of course, let's change this =)

make it stack.

so with 50 dks you have 250 katon.

ah no, let's double it!

make 500.

ah no, gimme 1000.

=)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 22, 2007, 08:19:01 PM
I had 200+ DKs, so should have gotten a double reset. I'm still an initiate .-.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thSannin on December 22, 2007, 08:59:50 PM
Quote
so, should i have 10 or 15 katon points at my 2nd dk?

hm. 5
?

like every?

well, of course, let's change this =)

make it stack.

so with 50 dks you have 250 katon.

ah no, let's double it!

make 500.

ah no, gimme 1000.

=)

ok, i just don't get it, and i think i have a bug.

i have 40 skillpoints right now, and it looks like i'm getting 10 more at each new day/ resurrection (not that i dislike it, of course ;) )

btw, i'm not asking for super high stats, i'm just trying to understand
so, maybe i'm stupid, could you try explaining it again?
i doubt i'm supposed to have so many skillpoints
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on December 22, 2007, 10:53:18 PM
Lol no wonder i didnt know what katon was, I didnt have it this whole time until now, 12 lvls without it lol
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 22, 2007, 11:50:08 PM
fixed now.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 23, 2007, 12:10:55 AM
I get 20 Katon points a day and i have 3 oro kills is that right (i think it is )
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 23, 2007, 12:37:12 AM
I believe that 3 resets of the sharingan gives you the master status.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 23, 2007, 01:02:49 AM
Damn this stuff is getting confusing...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 23, 2007, 05:03:18 AM
Those 10 skill points a day pwned o.O
even if it was a glitch >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 23, 2007, 11:34:30 AM
That's it.. -brain explodes from confusing-
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thSannin on December 23, 2007, 06:25:36 PM
neji, can you please try explaining the katon skilpoints thing again?

(btw, now i have 5, even if it's my 2nd day in the 3rd dk. is this another bug? 'cause  had 10 in the first 2 dks)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Koneko on December 23, 2007, 06:29:26 PM
From the cave:

"-Specialty "Fire" is available to you with 5 use points every day at least."
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: skr on December 23, 2007, 06:29:50 PM
I had 200+ DKs, so should have gotten a double reset. I'm still an initiate .-.

I had 500+ and am an initiate. Funny, isn't it? -.-
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 23, 2007, 07:03:31 PM
I had 200+ DKs, so should have gotten a double reset. I'm still an initiate .-.

I had 500+ and am an initiate. Funny, isn't it? -.-
Petiton.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on December 23, 2007, 10:26:46 PM
I believe it says if you are resetting more than once to just reset once and tell Neji in a petition what you want the next reset in and such.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 23, 2007, 11:47:52 PM
 :evil: I made the text how many resets count and that you petition so large, that on 1024x768 screen resolution you have almost to SCROLL to read the entire text.

Yet 1/3 did not read it.

I am voting for a new invention. A slapping device that gets active when certain code is on the page to make people aware of it...  :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: skr on December 24, 2007, 02:35:39 AM
So why are some people master/honored member of kekkei genkai, then? I'd re-reset me, but I can't do that and all xD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: datncboi on December 24, 2007, 03:02:34 AM
awwwww man i should have read. i got it too soon lol
i thought it was 160= 2 resets
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: BlazeShadow on December 24, 2007, 03:35:27 AM
.... negi i must now consider you very evil considering my reliance on Ice and 6 chakra.... and having tested a good part of ice due to choosing it before the switch
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Tsunbro on December 24, 2007, 12:55:35 PM
You should just Read what neji said!!!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: BlazeShadow on December 24, 2007, 02:20:15 PM
yea should have... to my defense it was 2:35 AM
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: KabutoUcha on December 25, 2007, 12:12:07 AM
i think you should only take the oro kills and player kills and if needing to take money make them pay a few thousand
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 25, 2007, 03:36:48 AM
Yay, my custom weapon has returned =3
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shikki on December 25, 2007, 04:22:29 AM
anyways....
the Kekkei genkai are really good in the long run =]
12 lvls in one game day as a genin
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on December 25, 2007, 07:35:36 AM
It's seems to be harder to kill people that has kekkai genkai. i lost quite some HP to Skidals & Dreadmaster even thou they are just chuunin. Most people die without even having the chance to touch me ._.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 25, 2007, 01:12:27 PM
Uhm.. does your alignment start over when you get a Kekkei Genkai?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: caquricon on December 25, 2007, 06:37:05 PM
Uhm.. does your alignment start over when you get a Kekkei Genkai?
no
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Tsunbro on December 25, 2007, 07:15:31 PM
Shikotsu Myaku
The Shikotsu Myaku is a bloodline from the Kaguya Clan. Kimimaro is the only member left in this clan, after their clan was wiped out. This special bloodline allows the user to alter his or her bone structure. This allows them to have sharp spikes that extend from their normal body structure. These bones are also extremely solid, almost as solid as steel.

Hoo ye this is what I'm talking about!!!!
I cant wait till Neji Puts This Up!! Anyways ^Great Work With the ones already in Game.^ Neji
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 25, 2007, 07:34:05 PM
So far, the Kekkei Genkai works above and beyond what I'd expected(80+ flawless fights in a row at lvl 1). :3 Great work, Neji...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: ryushi on December 25, 2007, 08:18:47 PM
After I started to understand the gates I love my kekkai genkai, and Kyuubi :D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 25, 2007, 09:25:51 PM
Uhm.. does your alignment start over when you get a Kekkei Genkai?
no

Aw, dang...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 25, 2007, 09:27:38 PM
btw: don't expect flawless fights to happen all the time ^^
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 25, 2007, 09:44:12 PM
That's what I expected with Xmas Kyuubi.. :'(
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 25, 2007, 09:50:36 PM
christmas kyuubi is badass >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 25, 2007, 09:52:40 PM
It was on like.. the first day I had it.
But the last couple days, It's only helped me enough for an extra level or two, not 12 levles O.O
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 25, 2007, 10:30:57 PM
Oh, I know flawless don't happen all the time; but with Kekkei Genkai and Kyuubi combined, they're scarce enough so it doesn't bother me overly much.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: atomkai on December 25, 2007, 10:57:03 PM
Shh.

The more you talk about flawless fights, the harder it will become  :shock:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 25, 2007, 11:10:13 PM
.....flawlessfightsflawlessfightsflawlessfights. XD

But seriously....without the aforementioned bonuses, I wouldn't get any flawless fights. >.> Making it harder would only hurt everyone else for no reason.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 25, 2007, 11:28:11 PM
I've gotten lots of flawless without any bonuses..
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 26, 2007, 01:02:17 AM
SL X-Mas Kyuubi makes flawless easy (around 100 with 10 turns >.>) but LoB Hollow Ichigo doesn't get any... <<
whatever, I'll take them as they come >>

Now back on topic... KG people ARE stronger; I can kill hunter nins who are a level higher than me easily >>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 26, 2007, 01:38:46 AM
Wow...I tried to kill myself against a Sannin(I was 2nd kill Chuunin), and won. .___. Awesome.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 26, 2007, 02:18:55 AM
Wow...I tried to kill myself against a Sannin(I was 2nd kill Chuunin), and won. .___. Awesome.
I know =3
Except I was a 3-kill genin and pwned a kage >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 26, 2007, 02:41:24 AM
Wow...I tried to kill myself against a Sannin(I was 2nd kill Chuunin), and won. .___. Awesome.
I know =3
Except I was a 3-kill genin and pwned a kage >.>
o___O Good Lord. I didn't realize that high ranks were so weak. XD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 26, 2007, 02:56:42 AM
Wow...I tried to kill myself against a Sannin(I was 2nd kill Chuunin), and won. .___. Awesome.
I know =3
Except I was a 3-kill genin and pwned a kage >.>
o___O Good Lord. I didn't realize that high ranks were so weak. XD
It's the new atk/def system coupled with how the Hyuugas level  ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 26, 2007, 04:57:20 AM
Wow...I tried to kill myself against a Sannin(I was 2nd kill Chuunin), and won. .___. Awesome.
I know =3
Except I was a 3-kill genin and pwned a kage >.>
o___O Good Lord. I didn't realize that high ranks were so weak. XD
It's the new atk/def system coupled with how the Hyuugas level  ;)

Hah, well, I still find the Uchiha abilities quite useful. ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: ryushi on December 26, 2007, 05:46:18 AM
I usually turned 20 turns to 30ish with flawlesses with my old pakkuun, now I can get a 1 day sk with xmas kyuubi! Last year I told him I'd talk to him later and the bastard never got me anything  :evil:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 26, 2007, 07:03:59 AM
I swear, it would be impossible for me to get flawlesses without kekkei genkai or kyuubi ._.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Camel on December 26, 2007, 10:38:03 AM
Just wait until your Chuunin+...you run into some bad creatures in the forest...I hate them!  :evil: :evil:
Sharingan nor the Kyuubi helped me.  :cry:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 26, 2007, 05:22:56 PM
oh crap I'm a chuunin now >.>;;
and I know, I hate them too
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: ryushi on December 26, 2007, 06:34:32 PM
I must have some good luck, I get tons of flawlesses searching suicidally
I'm breezing through the ranks
Reminds me I need to change my sig
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 26, 2007, 07:32:33 PM
well that's you
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 26, 2007, 10:42:45 PM
*sigh* Even when I do get my KG... I'll never move as fast as you guys.. Q.Q
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Gaara_Sand_burial on December 26, 2007, 11:20:11 PM
*sigh* Even when I do get my KG... I'll never move as fast as you guys.. Q.Q
You'll be faster than me >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 26, 2007, 11:22:21 PM
Our speed lies in... KYUUBI! A godsend from Neji =3
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Gaara_Sand_burial on December 26, 2007, 11:24:43 PM
Our speed lies in... KYUUBI! A godsend from Neji =3
Which runs out in half a week. :3
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihazi on December 26, 2007, 11:26:35 PM
Our speed lies in... KYUUBI! A godsend from Neji =3
Which runs out in half a week. :3

True, but they will most likely be jounin when Kyuubi runs out.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 26, 2007, 11:27:47 PM
30 days... I use about 2 per gameday so 5 days... yeah >_>;;
but also one kill per gameday so about 15 kills =D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Gaara_Sand_burial on December 26, 2007, 11:29:21 PM
30 days... I use about 2 per gameday so 5 days... yeah >_>;;
but also one kill per gameday so about 15 kills =D
I can barelly get a kill per gameday on Gaara..Thanks to the new thingies >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: ryushi on December 26, 2007, 11:31:07 PM
Oh my gosh, I just realized that a gameday isn't as much as a real day T_T
I was expecting a month a kyuubi
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 26, 2007, 11:34:00 PM
Oh my gosh, I just realized that a gameday isn't as much as a real day T_T
I was expecting a month a kyuubi
smart XD
ressurections count too >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: ryushi on December 26, 2007, 11:42:52 PM
Next time I'll try planning things out before clicking, although it was probably the best gift on the list. The 20,000 gold always makes me laugh.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 26, 2007, 11:45:43 PM
Next time I'll try planning things out before clicking, although it was probably the best gift on the list. The 20,000 gold always makes me laugh.
I got that (the gold) exactly 1 year ago to the day; 5 minutes into the game... >_>;;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: ryushi on December 26, 2007, 11:50:19 PM
I didn't know you joined that early, I ran away hoping to choose later
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Gaara_Sand_burial on December 26, 2007, 11:52:55 PM
I thought Hiro joined the 1st of Jan? ._.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 26, 2007, 11:54:21 PM
I just always said Jan. 1 since it's close enough and easier to remember <.<;;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 26, 2007, 11:55:17 PM
I wish I remembered when I joined O.o It's gott be like.. Feburary
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Gaara_Sand_burial on December 26, 2007, 11:58:33 PM
After halloween for me.  .-.
Would have been cool if I joined the 19 of Jan.. ;-;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Baluski on December 27, 2007, 05:00:21 PM
Stop spamming up this thread, take the chatting to AIM please.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 28, 2007, 10:18:16 AM
Alright, alright... now, Kekkei Genkai's.. do you have to reset multiple times for the full effect of one?
Like, have to do it twice to use Mangekyou or something?

-doesn't expect to be told though :/-
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: caquricon on December 28, 2007, 11:58:38 AM
Alright, alright... now, Kekkei Genkai's.. do you have to reset multiple times for the full effect of one?
Like, have to do it twice to use Mangekyou or something?

-doesn't expect to be told though :/-
yes after two resets you get mangekyou.. its stated in the caves when you go to reset
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 28, 2007, 03:02:29 PM
Neji can we get an approximation on how long it will be until new Kg's come out? ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: atomkai on December 28, 2007, 08:38:22 PM
Neji can we get an approximation on how long it will be until new Kg's come out? ;)

I am basically done testing and I already said which ones are complete. Others are scheduled, but don't expect anything before February 2008.

Just a guess  :P
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 29, 2007, 03:17:03 PM
oopsie daisy...=P so many pages i cant read through them all ^^
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 29, 2007, 04:48:10 PM
Well, I think I know everything I need to.
But, something I only want to know... could you choose Sharingan the first time, then Byakugan the second? And what woud happen??
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 29, 2007, 04:56:56 PM
Well, I think I know everything I need to.
But, something I only want to know... could you choose Sharingan the first time, then Byakugan the second? And what woud happen??

You can do that...but you'll need a turn to activate Sharingan, then a turn to activate Byakguan, then another when Byakugan wears off to activate it again...>.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 29, 2007, 05:08:26 PM
Byakugan does annoy me by wearing off so shortly; especially when it takes 2 rounds to use any Hyuga techniques... .-.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 29, 2007, 07:57:13 PM
think about people who will play enough to eventually have all Kgs... :shock:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shikki on December 30, 2007, 12:18:26 AM
Byakugan does annoy me by wearing off so shortly; especially when it takes 2 rounds to use any Hyuga techniques... .-.

yeah you can only attack _ times, unless you use the last one, but that isnt as strong as the others.....
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 30, 2007, 01:42:29 AM
Heh, and all you Hyuuga lovers said the Sharingan's not great...Tsukuyomi=uber pwnage.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 30, 2007, 01:47:38 AM
Well, I think I know everything I need to.
But, something I only want to know... could you choose Sharingan the first time, then Byakugan the second? And what woud happen??

You can do that...but you'll need a turn to activate Sharingan, then a turn to activate Byakguan, then another when Byakugan wears off to activate it again...>.>

Sweet. But... I don't like it like that :/ too easy
This game'll end too easy for some of us.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 30, 2007, 01:52:29 AM
Well, I think I know everything I need to.
But, something I only want to know... could you choose Sharingan the first time, then Byakugan the second? And what woud happen??

You can do that...but you'll need a turn to activate Sharingan, then a turn to activate Byakguan, then another when Byakugan wears off to activate it again...>.>

Sweet. But... I don't like it like that :/ too easy
This game'll end too easy for some of us.
It's what we deserve for being loyal players =3
I'll be like... ByakuSharingan! >:O (I'll need some god-modding acad to come up with a merged name <.<) and actually have it xP
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 30, 2007, 03:14:05 AM
Shakugan
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 30, 2007, 04:08:12 AM
It's because of silly things like Byashagan that I will not get Byakugan. >.> Gates, sure. No pupil-less white eyes for me though.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 30, 2007, 04:34:32 AM
I probably wont even use byakugan or 8 gates that much once i get them (and i will get them all) :P i kinda just want bragging rights...the only KG id use regularly would be Sharingan though >>...i dont see why people say its bad...The benefits outway its downsides by a mile
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 30, 2007, 04:51:36 AM
What downsides? The Sharingan has no downsides. -___- 5 free Katon levels every day, and a cheap, super-awesome Kekkei Genkai=pwnage.

And that's just the Initiate level...get to Honoured Member and whoo boy. .__.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 30, 2007, 05:00:57 AM
Welll i guess your right there are no real downsides... ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 30, 2007, 05:58:01 AM
Exactly. ^^ I can't wait for the Shikotsu Myaku....X3 That's gonna be ungodly. They have no freaking weaknesses. .___@
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 30, 2007, 06:15:44 AM
I doubt it.
What weakness is there to Byakyugan?
Few, but that didn't stop Neji from making one.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 30, 2007, 06:28:15 AM
Then why does Sharingan have no drawbacks? -_- Shikotsu Myaku is easily the strongest Kekkei Genkai currently in the series. Rin'negan has shwon nothing of its abilites...and was stated as the strongest DOJUTSU, so that argument can't be made. >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 30, 2007, 07:16:31 AM
What downsides? The Sharingan has no downsides. -___- 5 free Katon levels every day, and a cheap, super-awesome Kekkei Genkai=pwnage.

And that's just the Initiate level...get to Honoured Member and whoo boy. .__.
it's only when you kill oro, not everyday >.>
unless you kill oro every day in which case sure >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: geyser on December 30, 2007, 07:35:09 AM
well in that case, check out NarutoFourth. Her profile is insane. Already in the 30s for her oro kills and still flying up the charts. I'd think that she would be the first to achieve all if anything.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sycic on December 30, 2007, 07:46:48 AM
I am basically done testing and I already said which ones are complete. Others are scheduled, but don't expect anything before February 2008.

To be precise:

You lose virtually everything.

We are currently debating on what exactly you will lose =)

but consider gold,gems, mount, companion, jutsu points, charm and what not gone.

dwellings/sst/cs are in discussion.

It's worth the suicide really, i've been enjoying it, though I would have loved to have kept my cursed seal because it took SSSSSSSOOOOOOOO long to get
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 30, 2007, 08:14:18 AM
What downsides? The Sharingan has no downsides. -___- 5 free Katon levels every day, and a cheap, super-awesome Kekkei Genkai=pwnage.

And that's just the Initiate level...get to Honoured Member and whoo boy. .__.
it's only when you kill oro, not everyday >.>
unless you kill oro every day in which case sure >.>
You know what I mean. >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 30, 2007, 08:23:43 AM
What downsides? The Sharingan has no downsides. -___- 5 free Katon levels every day, and a cheap, super-awesome Kekkei Genkai=pwnage.

And that's just the Initiate level...get to Honoured Member and whoo boy. .__.
it's only when you kill oro, not everyday >.>
unless you kill oro every day in which case sure >.>
You know what I mean. >.>
>.> xD
any ways, yes, pwnage.. can't wait for mangekyou... fourth keeps on rubing it in my face -_-
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on December 30, 2007, 03:04:59 PM
a) narutofourth had kyuubi also from x-mas. no wonder.

b) sharingan is heavy stuff, BUT you have to use chakra for anything beyond the sharingan.

c) the mentioned persons have mostly 2 resets, means they have mangekyou.

d) sharingan is bad because it works once activated all the time.

e) byakugan is cheap and kicks butt

f) of course you go up faster. the discussion about "get 2 oro kill points after a reset" was not there for nothing.

Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 30, 2007, 03:11:12 PM
i thought sharingan once activated was permanent the rest of the gameday.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 30, 2007, 04:37:14 PM
I see no downsides to Sharingan being activated for the rest of the day once used...>.> And the techniques beyond Sharingan are worth the chakra cost, easily.

Sharingan is cheaper and kicks more butt. >___>;;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 30, 2007, 05:17:12 PM
b)sharingan is heavy stuff, BUT you have to use chakra for anything beyond the sharingan.
d) sharingan is bad because it works once activated all the time.
Um, how are those bad?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 30, 2007, 05:56:57 PM
b)sharingan is heavy stuff, BUT you have to use chakra for anything beyond the sharingan.
d) sharingan is bad because it works once activated all the time.
Um, how are those bad?
b is bad cause we have to waste chakra for every move? o.O
isn't that for every other kind of kekkei genkai... but then again I don't have any of them so yeah >>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 30, 2007, 06:02:43 PM
b)sharingan is heavy stuff, BUT you have to use chakra for anything beyond the sharingan.
d) sharingan is bad because it works once activated all the time.
Um, how are those bad?
b is bad cause we have to waste chakra for every move? o.O
isn't that for every other kind of kekkei genkai... but then again I don't have any of them so yeah >>
I still have to use chakra for my justus (Hachimon user)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 30, 2007, 06:12:51 PM
b)sharingan is heavy stuff, BUT you have to use chakra for anything beyond the sharingan.
d) sharingan is bad because it works once activated all the time.
Um, how are those bad?
b is bad cause we have to waste chakra for every move? o.O
isn't that for every other kind of kekkei genkai... but then again I don't have any of them so yeah >>
I still have to use chakra for my justus (Hachimon user)
huh...  and what about byakugan users?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 30, 2007, 06:35:36 PM
b)sharingan is heavy stuff, BUT you have to use chakra for anything beyond the sharingan.
d) sharingan is bad because it works once activated all the time.
Um, how are those bad?
b is bad cause we have to waste chakra for every move? o.O
isn't that for every other kind of kekkei genkai... but then again I don't have any of them so yeah >>

Once you activate Sharingan, you don't need to use chakra to keep it active. >.> Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on December 30, 2007, 09:22:12 PM
b)sharingan is heavy stuff, BUT you have to use chakra for anything beyond the sharingan.
d) sharingan is bad because it works once activated all the time.
Um, how are those bad?
b is bad cause we have to waste chakra for every move? o.O
isn't that for every other kind of kekkei genkai... but then again I don't have any of them so yeah >>
I still have to use chakra for my justus (Hachimon user)
huh...  and what about byakugan users?
it takes 2 chakra points to activate Byakugan, which lasts 10 rounds and grants us Hyuga techniques which each take 1 chakra ._.
so really, just powerful but short-lasting .-.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 30, 2007, 10:36:24 PM
Point is, Sharingan has no weaknesses.
Hachimon is like a house of cards.
You have to keep building to use the cool moves.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on December 30, 2007, 10:38:27 PM
It keeps making more sense O.O
You know, picking these will actually be a hard choice... my favourite characters are Sasuke, Neji, and Lee :(
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on December 31, 2007, 01:12:16 AM
Sharingans strength lies in its ability to stay activated all day long...something that the other 2 kg cant even compare to.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on December 31, 2007, 01:26:20 AM
Sharingans strength lies in its ability to stay activated all day long...something that the other 2 kg cant even compare to.
Which is why I am confused as to how Neji says that is a weak point.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 31, 2007, 03:04:10 AM
I think I get it...

sharingan has a low base cost but each jutsu using sharingan costs a lot more chakra to use compared to byakugan?
yet byakugan will have to spend chakra every 10 turns to keep i active? o.O
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on December 31, 2007, 03:32:54 AM
I think I get it...

sharingan has a low base cost but each jutsu using sharingan costs a lot more chakra to use compared to byakugan?
yet byakugan will have to spend chakra every 10 turns to keep i active? o.O

I never need to use the Sharingan's jutsu...the dojutsu alone is enough to make a visible difference.

Though, Mangekyo is godly against Oro.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on December 31, 2007, 06:18:19 AM
... I think it's me, but I don't notice a difference... then agian, I don't check the rounds >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 01, 2008, 12:21:32 AM
I may be the only one to have noticed this but, ill mention it anyways.
Neji I think you said something about the training grounds and KG...so I went there and low and behold there was a new option (Some or all may know what im talking about) This option has done nothing for me so far will it ever do anything?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: caquricon on January 01, 2008, 01:51:09 PM
I may be the only one to have noticed this but, ill mention it anyways.
Neji I think you said something about the training grounds and KG...so I went there and low and behold there was a new option (Some or all may know what im talking about) This option has done nothing for me so far will it ever do anything?
I believe only byakugan and 8 gates have something to do with the training grounds (We raise our weapon level here). I don't think sharingan does anything there.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on January 01, 2008, 08:04:03 PM
I may be the only one to have noticed this but, ill mention it anyways.
Neji I think you said something about the training grounds and KG...so I went there and low and behold there was a new option (Some or all may know what im talking about) This option has done nothing for me so far will it ever do anything?
I believe only byakugan and 8 gates have something to do with the training grounds (We raise our weapon level here). I don't think sharingan does anything there.

Well I am a sharingan user, and I went to the grounds and also found that new option, xD although it didn't help me in anything.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Asadi on January 01, 2008, 08:33:27 PM
Sasuke is rather funny. xD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on January 02, 2008, 02:36:56 AM
I like the choji comment...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 02, 2008, 09:44:09 PM
It would be nice if the training grounds could be used to train your sharingan but i have no clue how one would go about doing this
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shikki on January 02, 2008, 11:16:40 PM
It would be nice if the training grounds could be used to train your sharingan but i have no clue how one would go about doing this

When you go to buy a weapon-

As you are a Jyūken User, you have little need for ordinary weaponry. Your bare fists deal damage enough.


we cant use weaponry so we have to train differently
i think its the same for the 8 gates users

if you can use a weapon with sharingan then theres not much of a point to having sharingan trained there is there?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 02, 2008, 11:26:46 PM
Perhaps not :P
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 02, 2008, 11:28:05 PM
It would be nice if the training grounds could be used to train your sharingan but i have no clue how one would go about doing this

When you go to buy a weapon-

As you are a Jyūken User, you have little need for ordinary weaponry. Your bare fists deal damage enough.


we cant use weaponry so we have to train differently
i think its the same for the 8 gates users

if you can use a weapon with sharingan then theres not much of a point to having sharingan trained there is there?

We CAN use weapons, but I don't.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 02, 2008, 11:36:11 PM
Of course, train the sharingan.

Give out 30 permanent attack points.

Kyuubi for all...


Oo
Do you actually see that I *balanced* that stuff?
And "having not to buy a weapon" is something that is already included in the sharingan b00ns?

You sound like you are not content, and want a "kill all guys with a click" jutsu -_-

*sigh*
Sorry, but that needed to get out.

Complaints about people who have not understood the power of each kekkei genkai made me somewhat angry.
Also I hear a lot of "more more more" ... and I have no time to do it myself.

not only me, but Gyu is also stressed out as I had to put much stuff on her shoulders as well...

-_-

Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 02, 2008, 11:38:18 PM
So the having to buy a weapon is to balance the perma-activation?
Makes sense.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on January 03, 2008, 01:30:58 AM
Is that really what makes it balanced?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on January 03, 2008, 01:34:20 AM
combined with the fact that using one uchiha jutsu uses more chakra compared to the others
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 03, 2008, 01:55:11 AM
Neji I  wasnt complaining I was curious to know if the training grounds applied to all KG
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 03, 2008, 09:36:44 AM
Having to buy a weapon is *one* balancer.
Calculate the sum, not part by part.

@czarguy
well, you could have said so instead of "why does uchiha not..."

-_- sorry, but I am sensitive about such stuff currently.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on January 03, 2008, 11:13:15 AM
*just wishes he could get Chidori*
Since I don't count Raikiri the same thing. And as long as there is no Chidori to get, I better get no gruff about using it in the Zones.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on January 04, 2008, 02:35:34 AM
you can use any jutsus in the zones >.> read the descriptions
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 04, 2008, 04:41:09 AM
Ahhh, don't say that cmage...you'll give people the wrong idea and we'll have even more ninnies using Byashagan and Rasendori and other such mindvomits in the zones....;_;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thecrazyanbu on January 04, 2008, 05:17:22 AM
well that is the last thing that the zones need.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 04, 2008, 05:25:35 AM
@ Neji
Sorry I do appreciate the KG it kicks major Oro Booty
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: taichii on January 04, 2008, 02:52:23 PM
I think the SST & CS should be a Keeper.



no. if cs and sst were to stay any reset player would go flying through oro kills
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on January 04, 2008, 06:07:24 PM
I think the SST & CS should be a Keeper.



no. if cs and sst were to stay any reset player would go flying through oro kills
neji already decided to not keep it  :roll:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on January 04, 2008, 09:47:58 PM
Hahaha, lol.

Yeah, I'm just gonna use Chidori in the zones anyway .-.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Baluski on January 04, 2008, 10:14:42 PM
That has nothing to do with KG, stop spamming important threads.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on January 05, 2008, 10:54:37 AM
Just a thought, but it could not have nothing to do with it.
 if Chidori were a learned move, then it would be more effective with Sharingan. .-.
And Sharingan is a KG
And I was talking about the comfortableness of using Chidori in the zones and such if I learned it.. so it's very thinly connected, but it doesn't have nothing to do with it X.x
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Baluski on January 06, 2008, 05:30:42 AM
Chidori is not a KG nor is it a part of the Sharigan implemented in this game. Talking about the zones does not belong in this thread. I'm tired of having to sift through 36 pages of spam to find only a few posts that contain little to some content.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: ryushi on January 06, 2008, 06:33:39 PM
I agree with baluski >>
Question- There will be new kekkai genkai right? And I wanted something besides the 3 to choose from. Even though I already chose the gates will I ever be able to get a new one when they are released? And will you include The Rin'negan?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 06, 2008, 09:54:01 PM
And will you include The Rin'negan?
Probably when its powers are fully explained.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Roti on January 07, 2008, 11:51:24 PM
Would this http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,4395.0.html (http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,4395.0.html) work as a kekkei genkai if the first skill was like the zanpakuto in the bleach server?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Xaos on January 08, 2008, 07:57:56 PM
Personally, I think Sharingan is alittle too powerful.

Though I'm not complaining. I hope the others come out soon!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 08, 2008, 08:51:54 PM
Oi, Neji....we ARE going to be able to stack Kekkei Genkai, like you said we could, right? >.> We aren't going to be confined to just one?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 08, 2008, 08:58:52 PM
You can.

However, Byakugan and Sharingan are ... too closely related. You can't have both. One or the other.

(I just patched in the changes)


The might be other things that exclude themselves.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 08, 2008, 09:04:19 PM
Thank God. .__. I don't intend to get Byakugan in addition to my Sharingan...just things like the Gates and possibly other KGs that can be argued as Secret techniques....>>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 08, 2008, 09:21:40 PM
What about Hyouton and Mokton?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 08, 2008, 09:28:03 PM
Mokuton was never established as an actual Kekkei Genkai....>.> If it was, don't you think Tsunade would have it, being Shodai Hokage's granddaughter? So maybe we can get that too....
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 08, 2008, 09:31:49 PM
Well since Suna and Hyouton are in, why wouldn't Mokuton?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 08, 2008, 09:41:22 PM
Because we've only seen Shodai Hokage use it, making it unclear as to whether it was a Kekkei Genkai or just a really secret technique. >> Suna's been used mostly by Gaara, but Sasori also used it against Kankuro...and Hyouton, though a Kekkei Genkai in actuality, was used in a nonsensical movie and is thus used as a specialty.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 08, 2008, 10:00:32 PM
incompatible kekkei genkais MIGHT be there in the future.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Samantha on January 08, 2008, 10:17:46 PM
Obviously a lot more information and detail will come of the rinnegan.  Plus, it is something that is a long way from being added as an kekkei genkai in Shinobi Legends.  However for the sake of conversation, shouldn't it be considered as a evolved kekkei genkai in SL, from the stand point that in order to obtain it, one would have to trade in six (or at least 4) of their kekkei genkai for The Six Paths 'Rinnegan'. 
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 08, 2008, 10:48:16 PM
The problem is, as Neji just said, you wouldn't be able to get that many, due to incompatibility. Right now, you'd only be able to get 2.
Besides, if Rin'negan is just an average KG, it'll kinda be unfair.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on January 10, 2008, 01:57:48 AM
incompatible kekkei genkais MIGHT be there in the future.

Yea I think that should be an option cause some people are less then 40 oro kills away from getting there final reset then back to lvling up and getting bored T.T
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 10, 2008, 03:31:16 AM
Wait no Byakugan and Sharingan on the same character? :cry: Darn that wouldve been great in the zones!...
So if a Kekkei Genkai is to closely related to another then you can;t have it? seems fair.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 10, 2008, 03:38:15 AM
I will personally hunt down and tear out the fingernails of anyone who even flirted with the idea of the Byashagan. :evil:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on January 10, 2008, 03:42:43 AM
wait, is gates gonna impede with kaguya? cause I don't wanna not have the choice to choose kaguya >>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 10, 2008, 04:04:36 AM
wait, is gates gonna impede with kaguya? cause I don't wanna not have the choice to choose kaguya >>
Maybe it will, maybe it won't.
Also conflicting may be the choice between wood style, and ice style.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 10, 2008, 04:41:06 AM
Well...both Mokuton and Hyouton involve blending Suiton with another element, Doton and Fuuton respectively. >.> If one could do Hyouton, I suppose one could also do Mokuton since it's more of a S-Ranked technique.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Chaoskin on January 10, 2008, 04:57:47 AM
To be fair also if neji allows you to chose another kekki thats unrelated, it should stop at only having 2

I just want Sharigan/kaguya
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 10, 2008, 05:11:31 AM
Hrm...from what we've seen thus far, Rin'negan is only useful if you have 5 other bodies, each with the same dojutsu, and each linked telepathically...or optically...or something. >.> Personally, I'd rather not have six Shigeos wandering about.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on January 10, 2008, 06:13:31 AM
yeah, imagine you having a girlfriend kiss your...... other person thingy >.>

but we should be able to have more than two htough :/
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 10, 2008, 11:54:02 AM
I will make ice-wood as opposite kekkei genkai, yes.

WHEN we have them.

Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on January 10, 2008, 01:28:28 PM
But 8 Gates and Sharingan are allowed?
8 Gates and the Kaguya one?

Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 10, 2008, 02:32:29 PM
sharingan 8 gates and kaguya all on the same alt?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Xaos on January 10, 2008, 03:38:37 PM
sharingan 8 gates and kaguya all on the same alt?
That would make me cry >>;;

Maybe have it so you can only choose one major genkai (Sharingan, Byakugan, Hyouton(<- Debatable..)) And then only one of the lesser just so we don't have powerhouses destroying Oro faster than they already are >> And for every reset AFTER they already hit their limit, maybe just give them extra Specialty uses or perhaps make their current ones stronger and also make the moves last longer.

If we want to stick to the show though, you should not be allowed to have more than one Genkai, unless you somehow pull an Orochimaru or something that consists of stealing bodies or something like that. Though that shouldn't even get you more than one.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 10, 2008, 03:40:44 PM
sharingan 8 gates and kaguya all on the same alt?
That would make me cry >>;;

Maybe have it so you can only choose one major genkai (Sharingan, Byakugan, Hyouton(<- Debatable..)) And then only one of the lesser just so we don't have powerhouses destroying Oro faster than they already are >> And for every reset AFTER they already hit their limit, maybe just give them extra Specialty uses or perhaps make their current ones stronger and also make the moves last longer.

If we want to stick to the show though, you should not be allowed to have more than one Genkai, unless you somehow pull an Orochimaru or something that consists of stealing bodies or something like that. Though that shouldn't even get you more than one.

*raises hand* Er....look at my bio ingame, all I have to say. >.<;; Though, I think it would get you more than one if you did it like that....I won't go into it here though so as not to cause a fuss.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Xaos on January 10, 2008, 03:49:01 PM
sharingan 8 gates and kaguya all on the same alt?
That would make me cry >>;;

Maybe have it so you can only choose one major genkai (Sharingan, Byakugan, Hyouton(<- Debatable..)) And then only one of the lesser just so we don't have powerhouses destroying Oro faster than they already are >> And for every reset AFTER they already hit their limit, maybe just give them extra Specialty uses or perhaps make their current ones stronger and also make the moves last longer.

If we want to stick to the show though, you should not be allowed to have more than one Genkai, unless you somehow pull an Orochimaru or something that consists of stealing bodies or something like that. Though that shouldn't even get you more than one.

*raises hand* Er....look at my bio ingame, all I have to say. >.<;; Though, I think it would get you more than one if you did it like that....I won't go into it here though so as not to cause a fuss.

Since it's off topic I won't stick on that topic for a while but switching your spirit into another body would only give you the KG of that body I would think.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on January 10, 2008, 03:56:15 PM
but this isn't 100% canon on naruto >>

and who knows, some people might have gotten 2 kekkei genkais >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Xaos on January 10, 2008, 06:08:50 PM
but this isn't 100% canon on naruto >>

and who knows, some people might have gotten 2 kekkei genkais >.>

So because it isn't 100% naruto we could change anything we want? >>;

KG is a major part of Naruto. I still think following Naruto as much as we can would be better than changing it if we want a NARUTO RPG.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 10, 2008, 06:15:22 PM
How about one Dojutsu...
Then one other KG...
thatd even it out some.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 10, 2008, 07:35:42 PM
We will see as more come out.

The issue is: the kekkei genkai system is not easy. it took months to build the foundation of code.

the balancing is delicate...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Xaos on January 10, 2008, 08:12:46 PM
We will see as more come out.

The issue is: the kekkei genkai system is not easy. it took months to build the foundation of code.

the balancing is delicate...

But it should be slightly easier now that there's an understanding on how to do it, no? It will be easier than last time.
Good thing though, atleast players will have enough time to master their current KG before getting a new one. Though.. A few people are about to get their 4th reset as it is and 2 players that I know of have already got enough DKs to reset once and are about to get enough to reset again =\

None the less, there should be time to discuss one what the plans are for the future KG unless I'm mistaken. But as I think was stated, there should be KG and unique abilities that you chould choose from when you reset. I would say you can have only one KG and as many of the abilities (8 gates, Chidori if you do it, maybe some unique sword techniques like Dance of the crescent moon, Wood release, and so fourth.)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 10, 2008, 09:25:32 PM
Dont forget though he has to think up The KG as he gos along...not easy...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 10, 2008, 10:45:50 PM
Well, that's what us Feature Request-ers are for. =D Helping him with ideas.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on January 11, 2008, 12:46:43 AM
but this isn't 100% canon on naruto >>

and who knows, some people might have gotten 2 kekkei genkais >.>

So because it isn't 100% naruto we could change anything we want? >>;

KG is a major part of Naruto. I still think following Naruto as much as we can would be better than changing it if we want a NARUTO RPG.
I don't know, I'm not neji ._.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 11, 2008, 01:30:54 AM
Suggestion?
To figure out what would be "uncompatible" and what isn't, how about this?
Doijustus are uncompatible with eachother (already stated to be true, but mentioning it anyway).
Elemental fusions uncompatible with eachother. Meaning you have to choose between wood style, or ice style (or any other style).
And one "body" KGs. Meaning Gates + Bones = nothing.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 11, 2008, 02:09:26 AM
Suggestion?
To figure out what would be "uncompatible" and what isn't, how about this?
Doijustus are uncompatible with eachother (already stated to be true, but mentioning it anyway).
Elemental fusions uncompatible with eachother. Meaning you have to choose between wood style, or ice style (or any other style).
And one "body" KGs. Meaning Gates + Bones = nothing.
How so? Gates aren't a true Kekkei Genkai, they're a secret technique really....>.> No Mokuton and Hyouton is understandable, as is the Doujutsu problem.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thecrazyanbu on January 11, 2008, 02:22:32 AM
Suggestion?
To figure out what would be "uncompatible" and what isn't, how about this?
Doijustus are uncompatible with eachother (already stated to be true, but mentioning it anyway).
Elemental fusions uncompatible with eachother. Meaning you have to choose between wood style, or ice style (or any other style).
And one "body" KGs. Meaning Gates + Bones = nothing.

I agree.And assuming that they are implemented what about iron sand or the clan KG ideas?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 11, 2008, 03:39:36 AM
Shigeo, I said the gate thing because it is the only "body" thing besides bones.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 11, 2008, 03:56:26 AM
All of the Kekkei Genkai don't need an opposite, Miha. >.> Besides, using Ure Renge on someone with one of the Kaguya dances....<3
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 11, 2008, 04:01:01 AM
All of the Kekkei Genkai don't need an opposite, Miha. >.> Besides, using Ure Renge on someone with one of the Kaguya dances....<3
Are you new here?
Nothing on SL ever comes without a price (litterally, like castles, or figuratively, like the opposite KGs).
Besides, it's Morning Peacock that is awesome now.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 11, 2008, 04:16:34 AM
All of the Kekkei Genkai don't need an opposite, Miha. >.> Besides, using Ure Renge on someone with one of the Kaguya dances....<3
Are you new here?
Nothing on SL ever comes without a price (litterally, like castles, or figuratively, like the opposite KGs).
Besides, it's Morning Peacock that is awesome now.

Don't get insulting, or I'll do it right back....-___- Little...

Sharingan. What's the price for that, hmm? Tell me, oh sage one.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 11, 2008, 04:26:25 AM
no byakyugan.
and that wasn't supposed to be an insult.
also, all kgs come with a price if you recall.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on January 11, 2008, 05:13:34 AM
morning peacock pwns all
nuff said >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 11, 2008, 03:11:14 PM
no byakyugan.
and that wasn't supposed to be an insult.
also, all kgs come with a price if you recall.

You shouldn't want Byakugan if you have Sharingan, for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 11, 2008, 07:08:37 PM
sharinagn+byakugan would be great ;)

Although i think a player should be limited to three Kekkei Genkai

1. Dojutsu (Byakugan,Sharingan,Rinnengan)

2.Body Technique (Kaguya or Gates)

3.Other (Mokuton,Hyouton,anything else...)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Xaos on January 11, 2008, 08:13:40 PM
sharinagn+byakugan would be great ;)

Although i think a player should be limited to three Kekkei Genkai

1. Dojutsu (Byakugan,Sharingan,Rinnengan)

2.Body Technique (Kaguya or Gates)

3.Other (Mokuton,Hyouton,anything else...)

I still don't see the point of having three Genkais.. All it will do is ruin RP with people saying they're Kaguya/Uchiha/Haku...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 11, 2008, 09:05:06 PM
no byakyugan.
and that wasn't supposed to be an insult.
also, all kgs come with a price if you recall.

You shouldn't want Byakugan if you have Sharingan, for obvious reasons.
if the obvious reasons are that they are uncompatible, that was what I was saying.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 12, 2008, 12:31:04 AM
sharinagn+byakugan would be great ;)

Although i think a player should be limited to three Kekkei Genkai

1. Dojutsu (Byakugan,Sharingan,Rinnengan)

2.Body Technique (Kaguya or Gates)

3.Other (Mokuton,Hyouton,anything else...)

I still don't see the point of having three Genkais.. All it will do is ruin RP with people saying they're Kaguya/Uchiha/Haku...
Technically Mokuton and Gates dont fall under Genkais...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 12, 2008, 03:33:15 AM
They kind of are. It's like avatism, and it skips a few generations.

After all, why can only the 1st and Yamato (who has the genes of the 1st) do it?
But for SL purposes, it probably will be treated as a KG.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 12, 2008, 10:50:11 AM
 :roll: Technically you cannot  train Byakugan's precision and control life-long, and do as well life-long endurance training like Gai and Lee did.

I see the effort it takes.

And you could not have the time to do all of them.

Therefore -> KG.

Having only the blood means nothing. You must have training, too.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 12, 2008, 05:02:42 PM
But you CAN train Byakyugan!
Just like your namesake, Neji, did in Shippuden.
After 3 years, he went from 50 meters and 800 meters.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 12, 2008, 05:37:56 PM
You can train all Kekkei Genkais... :P
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 12, 2008, 06:16:58 PM
:roll: Technically you cannot  train Byakugan's precision and control life-long, and do as well life-long endurance training like Gai and Lee did.

I see the effort it takes.

And you could not have the time to do all of them.

Therefore -> KG.

Having only the blood means nothing. You must have training, too.
You could have the time if you were 'immortal'. >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: atomkai on January 13, 2008, 01:36:42 AM
I can see having two different KGs (mother & father from different KG backgrounds).

Three?  Seems like a long shot.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 13, 2008, 03:32:16 AM
I can see having two different KGs (mother & father from different KG backgrounds).

Three?  Seems like a long shot.
Problem is, only, like, 4 are actually KGs.
The others (assuming Fourth's clan justu ideas are put in) are just stuff you have to work on your entire life.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: atomkai on January 13, 2008, 04:04:41 AM
I can see having two different KGs (mother & father from different KG backgrounds).

Three?  Seems like a long shot.
Problem is, only, like, 4 are actually KGs.
The others (assuming Fourth's clan justu ideas are put in) are just stuff you have to work on your entire life.

Right, but KG are also clans, right? 

Kaguya clan.  Uchiha clan.  Hyuuga clan. etc. 

The difference is that those clans, in addition to having secret jutsu, also have a bloodline limit that compliments their specific jutsu.

You could theoretically have 2 different bloodlines in one person that have enough presence to be usable, but regardless, you can only be in one clan.

Having the presence of two different KG could buy you membership into those two clans (so you could learn those clan secrets) but it would not buy you admission into a non-KG clan to learn those jutsu.

Again, just my opinion.

I know that some want all, but let's keep it realistic and be thankful we have KG at all.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 13, 2008, 04:18:51 AM
I was referring to, say, the Nara clan's shadow justus, or the gates.
Anyone can learn them, but not everyone is taught them.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Eureka7 on January 13, 2008, 09:45:07 AM
Would Deidara's Clay ninjutsu be considered a Kekkei Genkai?  You need the special hands to perform the ninjutsu right.  The hands could only be received by having a kekkei genkai.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on January 13, 2008, 04:46:00 PM
More likely the hands are a Secret Technique, like Kidoumaru's extra arms and Kumonenkin abilities.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sealedhyuuga_X on January 13, 2008, 06:12:19 PM
How about that star power thing in the naruto filler? I was thinking that would also be a possible Kekkei Genkai, or something similar to that.

And is it possible to change your name if you get a genkai, because I saw a few people suggest that but I can't find where it has been answered. (Search button only gives me changing names in general, not if you get genkai)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 13, 2008, 07:25:54 PM
That is not a kekkei genkai.

that is relying on an artifact from a filler that has been destroyed ^^

the seven star tattoo is here, and it is enough.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thecrazyanbu on January 14, 2008, 12:21:09 AM
Would Deidara's Clay ninjutsu be considered a Kekkei Genkai?  You need the special hands to perform the ninjutsu right.  The hands could only be received by having a kekkei genkai.

actually czarguy and me but mostly czarguy are coming up with a thread for that KG.But im pretty sure that is some kind of KG and not a secret technique
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 14, 2008, 02:15:25 PM
@crazyanbu
Sorry its taking me so long school is tough! ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mioku on January 14, 2008, 02:40:15 PM
2 kekkei genkai should not happen =/ and its even harder to do because of genetics and such: mom: blue eyes father: brown eyes and only VERY rarely do the children have both parents eyes or hair color
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on January 14, 2008, 03:52:55 PM
shush mioku, it's a game >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 14, 2008, 07:15:26 PM
2 is understandable but beyond that might be pushing it...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: HyuChihaGuya on January 14, 2008, 07:48:47 PM
I thinkt that if you want to limit the KG then you should first define wich 1's are actually really Kg and not secret tecniques then after knowing wich ones are wich then come up with a solution but that's just my way of looking at it

And on a side note i think that if you were to implement Rin'Negan you should take into consideration that with it you would be able to master each and every elemental jutsu as it was stated in the manga and with it since you are about to posses other bodies there could also be the posibility to eventually have all the Kg's  what you all of you think
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: thecrazyanbu on January 14, 2008, 10:52:48 PM
well after you get 2 KG's you have to get twice as many oro kills before you can reset to make it longer.

@crazyanbu
Sorry its taking me so long school is tough! ;)

It's okay i just cant wait to see what you will come up with.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Roti on January 15, 2008, 06:27:34 PM
well after you get 2 KG's you have to get twice as many oro kills before you can reset to make it longer.

@crazyanbu
Sorry its taking me so long school is tough! ;)

It's okay i just cant wait to see what you will come up with.

hopefully  Iron Sand
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 16, 2008, 02:28:33 AM
Iron Sand, Gates, and Mokuton are not Kekkei Genkai to anyone knowledge, thus they should all be able achievable on the same account...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sky on January 16, 2008, 06:27:03 AM
I am still confused on the multi KG's problem @.@
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Jin on January 16, 2008, 07:04:22 AM
what I understand so far is that those who have the Sharingan can't get the Byakugan, but they can get the 8 gates.
lol maybe I am wrong, but that is what I understand  :roll:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Roti on January 16, 2008, 11:45:49 AM
Iron Sand, Gates, and Mokuton are not Kekkei Genkai to anyone knowledge, thus they should all be able achievable on the same account...

I agree, but accordin to the manga they all require unique abilities, which means that not everyone  can learn them, for instance to use the gates a person must be able to open them , for Satetsu be able to convert your chackra into a magnetic field and for mokuton be able to do 2 simultaneous nature manipulation(one in each hand , while for Hyuuton,whiich is a kg, the basic chakra of any clan member is of 1 nature manipulation: ice , or at least i believe in this, since haku could use 1 handed jutsus)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 16, 2008, 11:55:16 AM
Hyouton is the same as Mokuton.
The only difference is while Mokuton is Earth+Water, Hyouton is Wind+Water
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: caquricon on January 16, 2008, 02:15:50 PM
From what I understood from the anime/manga was that the technique that Haku used was unique to only him and his family, hence a KG
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on January 16, 2008, 03:00:36 PM
Hyouton=KG :D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Roti on January 16, 2008, 06:43:05 PM
i never said that hyouton wansnt a kg, what i said is that mokuton is something developed through an abilitie , which is doing 2 nature manipulations at the same time,one in each hand, while hyouton the chakra of the the entire body is from one nature manipulation, ice, even though its created with the fusion of 2,wind+water.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Baluski on January 16, 2008, 07:05:51 PM
How about we stop the chatting and leave this thread for announcements like it was originally intended.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sabakunogaara on January 16, 2008, 10:27:49 PM
is Dead bone pulse in the works?

PS: Hyouton and haku's skills are slightly different. Haku can create Ice, hyouton is like what the snow nin in the movie did, and simple manipulate already existing Ice. Haku= KG, Snow nin arent
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Baluski on January 16, 2008, 10:30:37 PM
How about we stop the chatting and leave this thread for announcements like it was originally intended.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sky on January 20, 2008, 04:44:47 AM
Agreed Baluski xD

Got a time frame for Kaguya, Ice, or any others?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 20, 2008, 09:50:30 AM
Yes. We have one. May 2013.
Pre-launch for testers in January 2012.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: AkatsukiUchihaStrife on January 20, 2008, 10:50:39 AM
Dude, you're kidding right?
Please?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 20, 2008, 11:19:05 AM
Some insisting on a time frame will get one. Full Stop.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Koneko on January 20, 2008, 01:57:23 PM
Yes. We have one. May 2013.
Pre-launch for testers in January 2012.
No problems for me.

o.o;
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on January 20, 2008, 07:03:40 PM
Yes. We have one. May 2013.
Pre-launch for testers in January 2012.
No problems for me.

o.o;
doesn't the world end on 2012? >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on January 20, 2008, 07:14:06 PM
Doom, no.
No posting stupid on this board.
We get in trouble for that, remember?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 20, 2008, 10:49:13 PM
Thanks.

No, there have been no announcement been made to me for world's end.

With my usual 10 years advance notification terms, you can safely expect 2017 to happen. Anything beyond it might change.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: asdfjkl on January 22, 2008, 05:32:30 AM
just so you know neji, if you cant meet that deadline of 2018 then i'm gonna lose all faith in your promises
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on January 22, 2008, 10:10:01 AM
I can live with that.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sealedhyuuga_X on February 02, 2008, 09:39:43 PM
I'm sorry for posting here (because I see Baluski's bellowing order to stop people from posting here) but after reading 20 pages of this topic, I got a headache and in a state of confusion @_@ because people were saying yes/no/yes/no to one question.

So let me get this straight...

Everything goes except dwellings.

My only question is that, if we get a Kekkei Genkai, does our DP specials stay? (i.e. wep/armor name, mount name, your custom name) or does EVERYTHING go; like everything you've ever spent DP on? And does your name stay the same, or can you change it? (I think I saw something about it costing 10k DP >__>)

And one more thing...
Someone said it's best to get a genkai in feb...is there some reason why? (Spoiler?)

Thanks, and sorry again~
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Xaos on February 02, 2008, 10:21:58 PM
I'm sorry for posting here (because I see Baluski's bellowing order to stop people from posting here) but after reading 20 pages of this topic, I got a headache and in a state of confusion @_@ because people were saying yes/no/yes/no to one question.

So let me get this straight...

Everything goes except dwellings.

My only question is that, if we get a Kekkei Genkai, does our DP specials stay? (i.e. wep/armor name, mount name, your custom name) or does EVERYTHING go; like everything you've ever spent DP on? And does your name stay the same, or can you change it? (I think I saw something about it costing 10k DP >__>)

And one more thing...
Someone said it's best to get a genkai in feb...is there some reason why? (Spoiler?)

Thanks, and sorry again~

Yes, everything donation wise stays.. It says what you keep and lose when you are about to get the KG.

And the reason is because more might come out. There is no set date though.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: garuga on February 04, 2008, 06:27:45 AM
BUMP!!New kekkei genkai released!!Ive only seen kaguya,but are there any else?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 04, 2008, 11:07:38 AM
I wanna Mokuton!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Duelist on February 04, 2008, 11:08:18 AM
BUMP!!New kekkei genkai released!!Ive only seen kaguya,but are there any else?

Funny, how it wasn't in the motd...maybe he did that for a reason
Right now, I don't see any others
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 04, 2008, 03:26:23 PM
Yes, I did.

I don't like good announcements, I am currently not in the mood for it, some people totally ruined it.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sabakunogaara on February 05, 2008, 12:54:06 AM
wait, let me get this straight... The kaguya style is done?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: sushigewd2.0 on February 05, 2008, 01:29:53 AM
wait, let me get this straight... The kaguya style is done?
yep, a few people already have it... iincluding me  :D
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: garuga on February 05, 2008, 05:42:09 AM
Yes, I did.

I don't like good announcements, I am currently not in the mood for it, some people totally ruined it.


sorry neji  :oops:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on February 05, 2008, 11:08:04 PM
Is Hyouton out? o.o
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 05, 2008, 11:14:25 PM
Make it yourself if you want it so badly.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 05, 2008, 11:16:15 PM
Make it yourself if you want it so badly.
Can I do Mokuton Neji? If you show me how you did the others I could do it I bet.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 05, 2008, 11:36:08 PM
Make it yourself if you want it so badly.
I made an idea for it, but so far none of you guys looked at it.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 05, 2008, 11:45:49 PM
Yeah, but could you actually code it? I figure you'd have to make a custom jutsu set for it, and made just increase their power each reset, made give some on the first reset, add another move for the second etc...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Duelist on February 06, 2008, 12:22:05 AM
He was being sarcastic... :roll:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 06, 2008, 08:16:17 AM
Yeah I know, and I figured out a 'release' of sorts for Mokuton if your interested Neji. Seem Uchiha has Sharingan, Hyuuga has Byakugan, not sure about the gates, but I have version that could work for Mokuton.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 06, 2008, 09:15:31 AM
Ideas are cheap
Code is expensive

Many people have ideas what they would like. Unbalanced ideas.

If I explain how to do it, it would take the same time or even less to actually *do* it.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 06, 2008, 09:18:29 AM
Well all I need to know is how the KG abilities hook into their speciaties, then I'd draft the code for my Idea for you.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Albedo on February 06, 2008, 10:18:59 AM
Well all I need to know is how the KG abilities hook into their speciaties, then I'd draft the code for my Idea for you.

And break the speciaties....again
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 06, 2008, 10:39:12 AM
 :)

you need to know a bit more.

the specialty stuff is a system,
and the KG do not hook into their specialties. the specialties hook into their system, and check if you have a KG, they are not directly related.

Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 06, 2008, 12:18:38 PM
Yeah I understand that, I just couldn't think of how to word it.  :oops:
If I draft up something would you take a look at it?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 06, 2008, 12:57:36 PM
without knowing the system, you can't.

well, first a good idea. described in text with attached "talk texts" would be good.

I want KG to be more than just a specialty...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 06, 2008, 01:13:12 PM
True, I've been looking at how the Circulum Vitae module works, and can see how to work it from there. But I see what you mean, I was thinking that a basic release could be the Move in which you create a forest, like the move the first Hokage used against the third Hokage. (It's late at night I can'tbe bothered looking up names right now.) This would give the oppenents a debuff, (minus Def, maybe atk to?) seem the battlegrounds 'wood' (Sorry about the pun) be in your favor. Then you would have access to the first two Mokuton techniques. So far I had the Wooden cage technique, and maybe an attack technique such as a large wooden trunk smashing into the oppenent, or the like. After each reset the attacks and debuff grow stronger, and you can unlock more techinques, so far I'dalso thought of a wooden clone which takes damage and attacks, and I have more ideas on the way. Is this enough or do you still want more?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 06, 2008, 09:52:01 PM
^^

Yes, that module is available, BUT you don't know how I coded the specialty system, which is essential for the skills you get via the CV.

Also you don't know how I coded the "you don't need to buy a weapon" and stuff.

Depends on what you *want* to do.

@Mokuton

I will not bluntly put in Hokage-unique traits like that. ^^ just buffs is not enough.
Also, for these very special ones, there should be a high prize, because they are not only limited by a clan, but basically extinct...
(uchiha, due to great popularity, is a special case in the game and available)

Also, for the coming KGs there should be more unique stuff no KG else can offer.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 06, 2008, 10:21:15 PM
Well I believe that for your specialty system, you've created a seperate module that tracks how many uses you have, so as it can be effected by other modules such as the CS/SST. As for something unique for their KG, we can see that they have control over Kyuubi, which is something that one other can do, so maybe they could be given a perm. Kyuubi when you reset, your something like that, made once you reach the third or second reset you could recieve it. I'm still trying to think of other unique abilities, but I'm sure they'd be like Uchiha's and still use normal weapons, but that's all I got for now.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 06, 2008, 10:54:50 PM
*tries to list KG possibilities*

Let's see...

Wood Element, Iron Sand, Hyouton (seriously, can someone look at my thread?), Inuzuka, Aburame, Spider justus (Kidomaru), Shadow Ninjustu, and Akamichi ninjustu?

How's that?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on February 06, 2008, 10:58:59 PM
Spider Ninjutsu fits under the Kuma Clan, I made that topic wayyyy back when.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 07, 2008, 12:33:11 AM
Sure, give them a perm Kyuubi.

NOT.

I won't give out a permanent Kyuubi like this.

You reason with "those who can control" a Kyuubi, which is not a Jinchuuriki... but a Hokage technique. Nobody can control himself completely there...

If you want Kyuubi, you have to buy him, or donate.

The current Kyuubi, as I  told some time ago, will go away. For Donations, it will stay, but not for buying.

I need to implement the mounts anew, and also the Bijuu need different treatment...

Leave it out for now.

Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 07, 2008, 08:09:52 AM
Good cause I had another idea while on the way home from work. We see that they have the ability to make a 'house' of sorts, so what if we made a new type of dewlling that only Mokuton users could access, it would be free for they to make, but cost 1-2 turns to put together, and they have a small house to stay in over night. There would be no coffers or extra keys etc... and it would be a once use house, that dissappears as soon as a new day comes. So that way they can still be attacked, but they ain't out in the fields, plus they can have a dwelling anywhere they want, just like a real Mokuton would actually do. And I know this is possible, well at least the part about making a type of dwelling for just one group, just not sure about making disappear at new day. So is this the kind of idea your looking for?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 07, 2008, 10:58:17 AM
Hm, yes, somewhat.

It's difficult to make a "one-use" dwelling that goes away like this...but we can keep it in mind
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 07, 2008, 11:30:23 AM
You like my Idea!?!
I'll look into seeing if I could work something out to do it.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 07, 2008, 01:11:23 PM
the problem here is more the code.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 07, 2008, 10:33:08 PM
Yeah, you'd have to start with a check to see if they have the Mokuton KG. Then you'd have to create a piece of code to erase the dwelling at a new day. When I get some time I'll have a look into the code needed.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: czarguy on February 07, 2008, 10:57:07 PM
im not seeing the use of a 1 time house...
Most people who reborn would already have alot of houses and keys to other houses if they wanted.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Baluski on February 07, 2008, 11:00:21 PM
im not seeing the use of a 1 time house...
Most people who reborn would already have alot of houses and keys to other houses if they wanted.

If could be hidden from PvP...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 07, 2008, 11:01:45 PM
Yeah maybe, but you'd have to increse the cost to build it to about 3 turns
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: GamerX on February 08, 2008, 02:40:14 AM
On the wiki you make Neji it says you can stack the KG's. Does that mean that once you get 80 more kills, do another reset, and pick the same KG as last time it gets stronger?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 08, 2008, 02:42:12 AM
On the wiki you make Neji it says you can stack the KG's. Does that mean that once you get 80 more kills, do another reset, and pick the same KG as last time it gets stronger?
That's the idea
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: GamerX on February 08, 2008, 02:43:39 AM
thanks i was confused on that part .
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: garuga on February 10, 2008, 06:13:40 AM
On the wiki you make Neji it says you can stack the KG's. Does that mean that once you get 80 more kills, do another reset, and pick the same KG as last time it gets stronger?
That's the idea

so 8 gates + doujutsu + kaguya = possible?? o.o
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 10, 2008, 10:34:52 AM
=) a good question. but currently, I don't see why not.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 10, 2008, 04:55:21 PM
So far, the only incompatibility is Sharingan + BYAKYUAN< RIGHT?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 10, 2008, 06:10:18 PM
Right.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 10, 2008, 06:59:25 PM
So if we tried to do that, the option would be grayed out?
Or would we loose one and gain the other?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 10, 2008, 08:02:59 PM
It is greyed out, right.

Also a text is now there telling anybody if a KG does not work with another one.

In case they already have one that is incompatible, the text will says so, too.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 10, 2008, 08:05:26 PM
Thanks.
The incompatibilities won't be too outrageous right?
For instance, bone + Sharingan
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 10, 2008, 08:06:41 PM
No, these go well.

The thing is to prevent:

a) super kekkei genkais
b) kekkei genkais that intermix stuff like create a new KG like byakugan+sharingan=being blind or so

Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 10, 2008, 08:12:34 PM
What do you mean "Super Kekkei Genkais"?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 10, 2008, 08:36:27 PM
Kekkei Genkai where you are unbeatable.

Basically... kekkei genkai like:

KG 1: start with 50 chakra
KG 2: kick butt with little chakra costs

or some combi like that.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 10, 2008, 08:39:10 PM
What if we discover combinations like that where you don't know about them?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 10, 2008, 08:40:17 PM
report them.

and I'll fix them

it is impossible to calculate every outcome.

you can't test them all.
and you tend to forget things and so on.

Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 10, 2008, 08:41:45 PM
Do we have le-way for those?
For instance, a KG that gives extra chakra (like 5), and a KG that needs a lot.
Would that be allowed?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 10, 2008, 08:45:23 PM
Depends on the cummulative effect =)

As said, there are always combination not even I can imagine at creation.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 10, 2008, 08:51:36 PM
I just want to know at what point do we have to report.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: kondaime on February 10, 2008, 09:07:52 PM
Sorry to ask this but I don't really want to look at all this sites.. 46  :o

So can you have sharingan + 8 gates + kaguya + ??(if something else comes out and isnt a dojutsu)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: xxMax on February 10, 2008, 09:28:43 PM
Yes.
I do not think there really should be a limit :)

A HOF to seen who has stacked the most with most dks would be nice so Parkzy would be first because she has stacked 4 times 36dks then NarutoFourth stacked 4 times 17dks.  Could that work Neji?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 10, 2008, 09:42:46 PM
Max, you want want want and of course see no limit.

Now, would you please remain quiet with your ongoing demands?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sky on February 12, 2008, 12:12:32 AM
Well, for what little contents my statement holds, I thing Sharingan+Gates together may be a bit broken. If the flawless limiter goes away, that combo will be amazingly harsh
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 12, 2008, 12:29:39 AM
I am aware of it being butt-kicking.

But as said, people will vote to have it, so I let it be.

The donations are fine, so if a few leave bored to death, the impact should not hit that hard on the survival of the server.

For the past 2 years, I thought about decently limiting things.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: pyromaniac on February 13, 2008, 12:06:14 AM
could i request a summary of available info on kekei genkei?

i know it sounds bad but i don't want to read through 45 pages of info and discussion.

*makes pouty lip*
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 13, 2008, 12:09:20 AM
That's hardly a good reason, go read through it like everyone else.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 13, 2008, 12:17:22 AM
could i request a summary of available info on kekei genkei?

i know it sounds bad but i don't want to read through 45 pages of info and discussion.

*makes pouty lip*
You could do that by:
1) Checking the SL wiki (in a MotD a few days ago)
2) When you get to the available DK number, and the secrt cave opens up, then you get a description of them (short of spoilers)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 13, 2008, 02:49:19 AM
summary: wiki

why do I even bother write that stuff, huh?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 13, 2008, 02:58:15 AM
Without the MotD being a popp-up, a lot of people don't check anymore, Neji.
Unless they are waiting for something, that is
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Ace on February 13, 2008, 03:09:32 AM
Without the MotD being a popp-up, a lot of people don't check anymore, Neji.
Unless they are waiting for something, that is

The problem there is that most people block pop ups.

So there is no use for the MOTD popping up, I think it puts some load on the server which it not needed.
Some people might be used to clicking to check the MOTD, but for now, it is what you have to do.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on February 13, 2008, 03:51:08 AM
Without the MotD being a popp-up, a lot of people don't check anymore, Neji.
Unless they are waiting for something, that is

The problem there is that most people block pop ups.

So there is no use for the MOTD popping up, I think it puts some load on the server which it not needed.
Some people might be used to clicking to check the MOTD, but for now, it is what you have to do.
well they could make the motd go all white like before ._.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: IceSlayer on February 13, 2008, 08:15:58 AM
No I like it popping up, I unblock pop ups for SL.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on February 13, 2008, 11:11:49 AM
I sleep in the fields all the time & I see the MoTD whenever I login.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sabakunogaara on February 13, 2008, 04:43:53 PM
why not make it an option in the preferences to chose if its a pop up or not? is that possible?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 13, 2008, 04:47:01 PM
would take too much load.

it's on a bad location, a setting was the best I could do.

currently, as I see *nobody*  realized it, it IS again a popup. I wanted to have as many for that poll as possible.

afterwards I'll turn it off.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: pyromaniac on February 13, 2008, 06:52:16 PM
Without the MotD being a popp-up, a lot of people don't check anymore, Neji.
Unless they are waiting for something, that is

the MotD hasnt appeared by itself on my pc for many many moons because of my pop-up blocker, and it hast turned white ewithe, i was unaware that there was a wiki page. i apolagize, i shall go gheck it out now.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on February 13, 2008, 07:06:59 PM
^^ thank your popup blocker.

the MOTD might need to get...java script attention.

Thanks for pointing it out. A simply "highlighted link" might not be enough in times of web 2.0
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on February 23, 2008, 02:51:34 AM
A question.
Would choosing a new KG before mastering the last one result in losing it? For instance, if you have 1 reset in Byakyugan, would choosing Kagyua result in loosing the Hyuuga KG?
If we do, would there be a reminder saying that would happen?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 07, 2008, 02:08:40 PM
That would not happen Miha
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 07, 2008, 02:52:40 PM
No, you still have  the current ones.

Far, far distant plans invoke new KGs that need a number of other KGs sacrificed... but it's not likely to happen :)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 07, 2008, 03:14:25 PM
Lemme guess, Rinnegan?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on March 07, 2008, 05:51:07 PM
Neji, just want you to know that the KG module is working fine; I just reset for Shikotsu Myaku, and I'm now a Footsoldier of the Kaguya and an Honoured Member of the Uchiha Ichizokus. ^^
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Hyuuga Hiashi on March 07, 2008, 11:40:55 PM
Neji, just want you to know that the KG module is working fine; I just reset for Shikotsu Myaku, and I'm now a Footsoldier of the Kaguya and an Honoured Member of the Uchiha Ichizokus. ^^
Um, Neji i know this was most likey already Talk about alot...But i was wondering why you allow people to have more then one KG....I mean it just seems very Un-narutoish I understand that it is already Un-Narutoish getting a KG from a "Cave" but  i mean isn't more then one pushing it?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 07, 2008, 11:45:05 PM
Give me decent options.

I figured players will want to combine it somehow.

Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on March 07, 2008, 11:55:33 PM
Neji, just want you to know that the KG module is working fine; I just reset for Shikotsu Myaku, and I'm now a Footsoldier of the Kaguya and an Honoured Member of the Uchiha Ichizokus. ^^
Um, Neji i know this was most likey already Talk about alot...But i was wondering why you allow people to have more then one KG....I mean it just seems very Un-narutoish I understand that it is already Un-Narutoish getting a KG from a "Cave" but  i mean isn't more then one pushing it?
I heard him say that the cave was for any strong abilities.
Now for people who use Hachimon (the only example now), which isn't a Kekkai Genkai in the series, why would they be limited to just that, when Kakashi has both?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: narutofightingstyle on March 08, 2008, 12:05:02 AM
Neji, just want you to know that the KG module is working fine; I just reset for Shikotsu Myaku, and I'm now a Footsoldier of the Kaguya and an Honoured Member of the Uchiha Ichizokus. ^^
Um, Neji i know this was most likey already Talk about alot...But i was wondering why you allow people to have more then one KG....I mean it just seems very Un-narutoish I understand that it is already Un-Narutoish getting a KG from a "Cave" but  i mean isn't more then one pushing it?
I heard him say that the cave was for any strong abilities.
Now for people who use Hachimon (the only example now), which isn't a Kekkai Genkai in the series, why would they be limited to just that, when Kakashi has both?

Kakashi has a drawback though he is unable to sustain using it for long periods of time.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on March 08, 2008, 12:07:58 AM
Kakashi himself has no Kekkai Genkai.
Hachimon in the series isn't one, and the Sharingan was originally Obito's.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: narutofightingstyle on March 08, 2008, 12:16:09 AM
Kakashi himself has no Kekkai Genkai.
Hachimon in the series isn't one, and the Sharingan was originally Obito's.

So you just proved your own point void <_< you said Kakashi had two kekkei genkai's; please make up your mind.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on March 08, 2008, 12:30:50 AM
Kakashi himself has no Kekkai Genkai.
Hachimon in the series isn't one, and the Sharingan was originally Obito's.

So you just proved your own point void <_< you said Kakashi had two kekkei genkai's; please make up your mind.
-_-

By this game's standards, he does hav two.
My point is that.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sabakunogaara on March 08, 2008, 02:39:02 AM
and Kakashi cant use them much for 2 reasons. 1) Not an Uchiha, so Sharingan saps his chakra 2) doesnt have the intense training of Lee and Guy to handle the Hachimon
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on March 08, 2008, 04:14:07 AM
but still counts as 2 kekkei genkai
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on March 08, 2008, 05:18:19 AM
And guess what? If Kakashi has two in the canon material, I can have two, as can anyone else. :D Discussion over.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Hyuuga Hiashi on March 08, 2008, 05:24:17 AM
Yes True the gates aren't a KG really so they should be allowed with other KG but im talking things like Kaguya, and sharingan, and other KG mixing with KG when they are added......
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Shigeo on March 08, 2008, 07:45:30 AM
Neji allows it, so stop complaining. :D I'm not.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 08, 2008, 08:29:07 AM
I have now mastered 2 Kekkei Genkai i want to have somemore to go for!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sabakunogaara on March 08, 2008, 04:18:32 PM
well, lets say that we get sharingan in the usual additional manner.... We plucked out Uchiha eyes
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 08, 2008, 05:12:43 PM
You could never take my eyes! bwahaha....
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 08, 2008, 05:29:36 PM
Stop spamming immediately.  :evil:
No "Sorry" responses either.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 08, 2008, 06:11:09 PM
Yes Boss!

I beg you Neji, can you make somemore Kekkei Genkai, hell i have the coding experience to try it ^^
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 08, 2008, 06:22:58 PM
My present statement:

I am sorry, there will be no more.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: kirasu on March 10, 2008, 02:28:48 AM
If the Rin'negan's abilities are showed soon in the Japanese manga, will you have it released soon after? or will you wait for the anime?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on March 10, 2008, 03:47:17 AM
no manga stuff
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Marior92 on March 10, 2008, 05:09:50 AM
Are jinchuuriki planned as part of the kekkei genkai system? Or is it something else?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 10, 2008, 08:45:34 AM
There will be No Jinchuuriki's in Shinobi Legends because it would buff players up far too high. 
For example,

Jounin vs Academy = Jounin (Most of the Time)
Jounin vs Academy Jinchuuriki = Academy

Do you see why it has been shot down?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Camel on March 10, 2008, 09:26:34 AM
I wanted to see Mokuton be implemented but eh no matter.
Too much work for Neji.  :)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 10, 2008, 10:59:02 AM
I guess though, i am running out of Kekkei Genkai to get ^^
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on March 10, 2008, 11:38:02 AM
I guess though, i am running out of Kekkei Genkai to get ^^
Then go back to DKs.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 10, 2008, 01:23:23 PM
Thats boring xD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sabakunogaara on March 10, 2008, 09:39:49 PM
will mokuton and Iron sand eventually be added?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 10, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
Scheduled for 2031. May, I hope.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on March 11, 2008, 12:18:54 AM
Scheduled for 2031. May, I hope.
*marks on calendar*

so I'll be... 47 >.>

yeah, I think I can get 80 dks in 23 years
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Agon on March 11, 2008, 04:04:13 AM
Is Susanoo added to mangekyo sharingan?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on March 11, 2008, 04:18:17 AM
Is Susanoo added to mangekyo sharingan?
Not yet. I don't know if it will be either.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Kyosuke on March 11, 2008, 04:39:14 AM
Is Susanoo added to mangekyo sharingan?


It's a new technique that doesn't have much history in the Naruto series so far, no? I'd suggest waiting until the said May, 2031 to find out.  :)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 11, 2008, 08:32:47 AM
Scheduled for 2031. May, I hope.
Knowing you that wont be a joke  -_-

I should have Grand Master Sharingan, Gai Lotus, Warlord, EEST, 2000gems, 40 000+ dks by then, just enough to reset  ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 11, 2008, 09:00:26 AM
hm, after,say, 400 dks there will be database change required...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 11, 2008, 07:31:29 PM
hm, after,say, 400 dks there will be database change required...

What kind of change?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 11, 2008, 07:33:37 PM
larger storage for the field where the oro kills are kept.

no database has endless storage.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sabakunogaara on March 12, 2008, 08:47:06 PM
we already have people with over 400 though XD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 12, 2008, 09:19:00 PM
well, sure.
the max was... 900?

still got lucky ;)
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 12, 2008, 10:30:59 PM
What will happen in say 10Years when 500dks earns you a place page 20 on the dk HOF?

The database would have to store mass amounts, you would need a server has big a a house -_-
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 12, 2008, 11:12:48 PM
In 20 years, the data you will build up is stored on a medium as big as your finger tip.

Currently, ALL you stuff takes up, not optimized for the database (because it uses quite some space only for optimizations), about 400 Megabyte.
That is NOT compressed. Plain text.

So. Not even one CD. ;)

The thing is: more data causes longer time for queries who search stuff... therefore -> slower.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: hiro on March 12, 2008, 11:18:16 PM
What will happen in say 10Years when 500dks earns you a place page 20 on the dk HOF?

The database would have to store mass amounts, you would need a server has big a a house -_-
Haven't we already had more than 20 daimyos? >.>
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 12, 2008, 11:42:53 PM
The amount of storage space does not differ greatly.
I talked about fields in the table, not the table itself.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on March 17, 2008, 05:34:12 PM
i think it would be, without trying to be too abrashive, idiotic, dwellings are dwellings, you should keep them, and as much as it pains me to say, curse seal and sst should be gone, becausethey are achieved in an event, you are not born with cs or sst  :roll:

i have a cs and i love it dearly but yeh i think it wouldn't be right to keep them...
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Mihamaru on March 17, 2008, 05:36:30 PM
i think it would be, without trying to be too abrashive, idiotic, dwellings are dwellings, you should keep them, and as much as it pains me to say, curse seal and sst should be gone, becausethey are achieved in an event, you are not born with cs or sst  :roll:

i have a cs and i love it dearly but yeh i think it wouldn't be right to keep them...
Those are already confirmed.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Sasuke X on March 18, 2008, 12:39:25 AM
I think we should be able to use the kekkai genkai in PvP. It would set us apart from other academy students and we would actually have an advantage to people that started 5 minutes ago besides our experience. Also if we're losing all our health i think we should be able to get like half a gem back for every 1 or 2 points so we can at least build a cityhouse with it...like maybe in the baluski event, baluski's really hungry or something and'll trade you your HP for gems. Like say i wanna trade 300 HP. You would get 150 gems back. But you have to trade enough HP to make a whole number of gems.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on March 18, 2008, 01:50:13 AM
Using jutsu in PvP? .-.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on March 18, 2008, 01:50:23 AM
no.

neji already said that it's just something special and not something to make you uber person blasting through levels

and plus, can you imagine uchiha people pvping?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: kondaime on March 18, 2008, 11:44:36 AM
i still dont know what my 3 tomoe sharingan does -_- it just seems like it does.. nothing xD
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 18, 2008, 12:44:38 PM
Ignorance is a bliss.  :roll:
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on March 18, 2008, 12:56:34 PM
i still dont know what my 3 tomoe sharingan does -_- it just seems like it does.. nothing xD

You might want to check the wiki on what the Sharingan does.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on March 18, 2008, 02:59:23 PM
Ignorance is a bliss.  :roll:
yes it is....
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: kondaime on March 19, 2008, 10:25:49 AM
i still dont know what my 3 tomoe sharingan does -_- it just seems like it does.. nothing xD

You might want to check the wiki on what the Sharingan does.

already done but even though it says it reduces enemys att and def i cant see a difference xP
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 19, 2008, 10:49:17 AM
because, er, you don't see the enemy attack/defense?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 19, 2008, 02:02:23 PM
because, er, you don't see the enemy attack/defense?
Oo..oo we should be able to see it so it would be like:

You have encountered Medical Nin which lunges at you with Medical Ninjutsu!
Medical Nin's Hitpoints (Level 3): 56
Medical Nin's Attack: 10(12) <---that would be the reduction of sharingan
Medical Nin's Defense: 11(13)<---"                                                      "
Your Hitpoints: xxx
Your attack: xx(xx)
Your Defense: xx(xx)

Likey?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 19, 2008, 03:20:15 PM
Yes, you should.

Also you should see "A power attack coming up in 2 rounds", "Your enemy will most likely die in 3 rounds", "You have not trained well enough, you'll die in 2 rounds"

let's automate that even more "click to win with 90% chance" <--better ^^ one click one fight, just exp

^^ and where is the fun?
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: cmage on March 19, 2008, 07:14:25 PM
we have one click one fight .-.
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Neji on March 19, 2008, 07:32:51 PM
but not with a win chance displayed.
you go in without knowing the chances ^^
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: kondaime on March 19, 2008, 07:50:24 PM
You always know the chances.. on level 1 with pakkun/mando/shukaku/kyuubi you know that you'll win the fight for 100%

And I also know I will win the fight when my mount helps me no matter on what level

So it doesn't really matter =P
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 19, 2008, 07:52:37 PM
You always know the chances.. on level 1 with pakkun/mando/shukaku/kyuubi you know that you'll win the fight for 100%

And I also know I will win the fight when my mount helps me no matter on what level

So it doesn't really matter =P
You know because you been around a while xP
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: doomstar on March 19, 2008, 11:02:03 PM
You always know the chances.. on level 1 with pakkun/mando/shukaku/kyuubi you know that you'll win the fight for 100%

And I also know I will win the fight when my mount helps me no matter on what level

So it doesn't really matter =P
... ok first, get more dks and see that you're wrong on so many levels on that
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Itachii on March 20, 2008, 08:09:53 AM
You always know the chances.. on level 1 with pakkun/mando/shukaku/kyuubi you know that you'll win the fight for 100%

And I also know I will win the fight when my mount helps me no matter on what level

So it doesn't really matter =P
... ok first, get more dks and see that you're wrong on so many levels on that
Because you fight more than 1 enemy!
Title: Re: Kekkei Genkai
Post by: Baluski on March 20, 2008, 03:51:20 PM
Alright, off topic banter. I'll lock this up until further notice.