Shinobi Legends Forum
Game Development => New Features => Topic started by: Koriuchiha on June 13, 2007, 01:30:03 AM
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im sorry but i realy dislike this, i died 5 times within the last 3 minutes and i lost about 5,000 expierience points and i feel like i wont get a level up for a long time. this game will lose members if this doesnt stop, people dont like this, i noticed lots dying because of this. This game is hard and you should change it back to the way it is.
---message me on game to explain it to me more because i might not be on forum for a while.
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I dislike it too >=(
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deal with it =)
thast the point.....
its SUPPOSED to be hard
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The game was hard before , now it's insane.
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It's refreshing and fun to see enemy using jutsu, but turning every fight into a battle with "Orochimaru" isn't my idea of fun. The forest opponents are even stonger than Orochimaru himself! Only with less HP.
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True... and why is neji and hinata the stronger ones? i think naruto or sasuke should be the stronger ones =p or gaara.
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gaara + lvl 15 suna..... = :shock:
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If those multiple people fights have jutsus I swear to god...
You encounter team seven with all their fricken jutsus!
Naruto uses rasengan 164 damage!
Sasuke uses chidori for 176 damage!
Sakura uses her inhuman strength learned from tsunade and medical jutsus 164 dmage!
me = dead...
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slumbering, thrill seeking, and suicidal searching is your friend >_>
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I personally enjoy it. It makes you have to fight more strategically with your jutsu's to be able to defend yourself against the more powerful enemies. They MIGHT be a little overpowered, but I like the concept.
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They are not a problem if you don't have a lot of turns. But when you have like 30-50 turns and only 15 chakra, you are screwed after a few fights.
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gaara + lvl 15 suna..... = :shock:
valid point, I left Naruto and Gaara out, but should input some on Hyuuga level maybe...
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Well, it's personally not that bad. I don't die *that* much. Mainly because I actually use my suna to try to save myself, that's why it's there of course.
I hate leveling up at level 1 even more now. :(
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none of the creatures really bother me except for neji and hinata they deal so much damage and neji even takes your chakra. i die so much on them it isn't even funny. neji can only be killed with luck for a lot of specialty. kakashi and the others don't bother me taking 1 to 200 points is fine just not every turn with taking chakra away too it is just to much. and gyururu has a good point about the fights. having 40 or so fights with only 15 points of chakra doesn't help if you fight with those monster more than once or twice. and fighting neji i can only beat him 1 time but even if i heal i die on the next.
it was a good idea to give the monsters jutsu's i do have to agree. But neji and hinata are to strong.
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How can they use their jutsu after taking damage greater than 4x their HP?
Also, if Hinata & Neji can take our Chakra (even after the above scenario, hit for 4x their HP on the first hit) then perhaps we can use Sarutobi more than once per day?
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I Always thrilseek to the end easly with my alt , and now i die in 1 round when i fight in look at something to kill...
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the point is it's realy hard, it's way easier to kill orochimaru then them, i lost so much expierience points it's not even funny, it's way to hard, i just search for opponet and immediate death >.>
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i just died again! to sasuke of course..... i will never kill oro for like maybe a few days like a week or 2 and im level 14!
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i just died again! to sasuke of course..... i will never kill oro for like maybe a few days like a week or 2 and im level 14!
heal yourself.
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your probally going to take that away too arent you! :evil:
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:twisted:
no, I will give the enemies items too (so it makes sense they can drop them) ...
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:twisted:
no, I will give the enemies items too (so it makes sense they can drop them) ...
wel, they have weapons.
and we know that everyninja carries items, even if he doesn't use them.
ontopic: i like the idea, even the 100-200 damage part. it's interesting, and challenging. (i think i don't have enough dks for this to happen to me, so i'm just basing on what i saw in the forum).
but taking away chackra... that's just too much. i heard it takes 10 or more chackra points... my gameday would just be of no use. i'm ok with the super-damage, but stay away from my chackra!!! :evil:
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I want Zabuza's sword!!!!
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Chakra's not that big of a problem for most people that encounter the event anyway, since the people that see it are higher rank and probably either have the curse seal or seven star tattoo anyway. I really don't see a major problem with it, but then again, I don't start with 40+ turns, I just use my specialties to get that many.
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10+ chakra from one enemy is a lie btw.
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10+ chakra from one enemy is a lie btw.
well, i heard of someone losing 10 chackra points to neji.
at least, that's what he said.
anyway, i haven't put any dk points in turns (i'm good at pvp), and i mostly level up just through flawless from jutsus. if i get my chackra stolen, i'm finished :cry:
that was 1 thing i hoped to be untouchable...
edit: is it possible that i get this even if i only have 33 dks? (i thought it was only for hokages).
if so, i think hinata got 5 chackra points from me (i was lucky i had the buff from tsubake fukimi). i'm not sure though, i didn't read the text
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It's definetely not for Hokage and up, since I'm a Sannin getting these events too.
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Wait, cant the Hyuuga clan also give people more chakra? maybe they could (accidentally) give the opponent more chakra flow. ^^
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stop mentioning orochimaru being weaker or else neji will make him just stronger...
i think the idea is good ,but stealing chakra,it would be ok if we have more chakra,not just around 20 points!
maybe 30 chakra points would be ok...and giving eatems to enemies is also ok,since we can get them after the fight!
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I'm a Hokage in the game (and I really suck), and get killed by Hinata and Neji in 2 - 3 turns.. Its almost impossible to run and killing them is nearly impossible (I said nearly, as there are still some ways). They seem to catch you off guard and before you know it, you are now dead. In a way, it has made me more strategic.
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I'm a Hokage in the game (and I really suck), and get killed by Hinata and Neji in 2 - 3 turns.. Its almost impossible to run and killing them is nearly impossible (I said nearly, as there are still some ways). They seem to catch you off guard and before you know it, you are now dead. In a way, it has made me more strategic.
i only survived because i had already used tsubake fukimi (dunno if it's spelled that), and i had 3 rounds left of it.
that was a close one
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i have to avoid those 2 people at all costs. i can kill them easily if i have my chakra full from the start of the fight. but the next fight i get slaughted even if i do heal. taking a point or 2 of chakra doesn't hurt so bad but after 3 rounds of that and all chakra is gone, and it goes on for 7 or 8 rounds it is almost certain death. every time i have encountered one of them nomatter what i have had i have died.
But it has made me more strategic i do have to admit that
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I know that I typically don't have to worry about losing too much chakra, since with my mount damage plus a suna shuriken, I typically have already one the fight. Must be much harder when your levels are higher then Sannin.
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To an earlier comment made about the -10 charka from Neji, I got -9 from him but that was after various fights so that might be what happened to the other person ; and its not that huge of an issue that they can fight back it makes it more interesting and if you can't find someone to suicide on they are rather helpful ^-^
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*just died to sasuke in the forest*
It is so embarrassing...
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Try dying to Hinata 2 times in a row as a +390 Oro Kill Grand Hokage..... -.-;;;
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Actually (And It is The Truth) I Never Got Killed By a Jutsu Monster...
I Only Get Killed By That Stupid Golden Ninja <.<
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I didn't even notice anything, but my forest fights ending faster. They are ovbiously no match for me, Neji. I think you should give them multiple attacks each turn or something, so I could do SOMETHING with my chakra. of course that would mean more valuable and often drops too.
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So far I am not encountering many of these monsters who can use jutsus. They aren't that of a problem to me yet.
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I didn't even notice anything, but my forest fights ending faster. They are ovbiously no match for me, Neji. I think you should give them multiple attacks each turn or something, so I could do SOMETHING with my chakra. of course that would mean more valuable and often drops too.
nope, how about fighting hinata AND neji at the same time?
I will do that...yes.
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*KB have the wounds to prove that he isn't fibbing*
You all have no clue on the depths of his evilness...one fight had me against 5 opponents...
:smt100
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... and that was not even the maximum...
wait for the enemies who call in reinforcements.
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Will I fight that many people at once as well. I mean I'm only Hunter Nin and maybe I will vs. 5 or more people when I get stronger.
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*KB have the wounds to prove that he isn't fibbing*
You all have no clue on the depths of his evilness...one fight had me against 5 opponents...
:smt100
... and that was not even the maximum...
wait for the enemies who call in reinforcements.
Multiple enemies could be a real problem. That should make the game more interesting though, not to mention more realistic. Your going to have to kill them faster to have a better chance of survival.
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lol ill be able to take them all on as long as you neji give me chidori, ill apreciate killing them that way, im a blue hunternin looking for kills lol
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lol ill be able to take them all on as long as you neji give me chidori, ill apreciate killing them that way, im a blue hunternin looking for kills lol
first you need the kekke genkai for chidori and neji didn't finish it yet and for everyone above sannin it's gonna be hell
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Chidori is in the Raijustus arc.
Also.... Chidori is a technique against *one* enemy, isn't it?
I prefer Goukakyuu no Jutsu, because it will hurt *all* enemies. =)
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Chidori is in the Raijustus arc.
Also.... Chidori is a technique against *one* enemy, isn't it?
I prefer Goukakyuu no Jutsu, because it will hurt *all* enemies. =)
And now we will have to plan our attacks cause some won't hit more than one person, and we won't know a thing about which will do more htan one enemy
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I find this funny...Hinata the shy, weak one owning Grand hokages and everyone else...strange but funny o.o
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Chidori is in the Raijustus arc.
Also.... Chidori is a technique against *one* enemy, isn't it?
I prefer Goukakyuu no Jutsu, because it will hurt *all* enemies. =)
And now we will have to plan our attacks cause some won't hit more than one person, and we won't know a thing about which will do more htan one enemy
We should know a few attacks that will hit more then one enemy. Some of the Katon and Fuuton should be able to. This could change what type on ninjutsu people are using to be able to combat multiple opponents simultaneously, since some probably won't have attacks that hurt multiple enemies.
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KBoogi is right. Don't get confident around Neji, he will leave you battered and with no dignity left. I for one am barely able to stay alive at level 1 using my ninjutsu, so I doubt that the hunter nins that just claimed they can beat 5 Hyuuga's at once can actually do it.
I for one will be finding shelter under a rock once these changes come. :smt109
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KBoogi is right. Don't get confident around Neji, he will leave you battered and with no dignity left. I for one am barely able to stay alive at level 1 using my ninjutsu, so I doubt that the hunter nins that just claimed they can beat 5 Hyuuga's at once can actually do it.
I for one will be finding shelter under a rock once these changes come. :smt109
You mind if I join you? >.>;
I will be kinda scary out there ya know...
And I bet soon he'll have enemies attacking villages T.T
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i think neji could become more evil by give konohamaru a jutsu :twisted:
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i think neji could become more evil by give konohamaru a jutsu :twisted:
only one: Oiroke no jutsu. if you are male, you will suffer.
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go for it XD i have 50 gems :roll:
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i think neji could become more evil by give konohamaru a jutsu :twisted:
only one: Oiroke no jutsu. if you are male, you will suffer.
Don't forget he has one for females too... Sakura was on the receiving end of his *other* Orioke no justsu. :D
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i think neji could become more evil by give konohamaru a jutsu :twisted:
only one: Oiroke no jutsu. if you are male, you will suffer.
Don't forget he has one for females too... Sakura was on the receiving end of his *other* Orioke no justsu. :D
I'm all for it! :evil:
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i think neji could become more evil by give konohamaru a jutsu :twisted:
only one: Oiroke no jutsu. if you are male, you will suffer.
Don't forget he has one for females too... Sakura was on the receiving end of his *other* Orioke no justsu. :D
I'm all for it! :evil:
hehe.. if htis all happens konohamaru might become the most feared enemy ever xD
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hey, i didno't notice ebisu had a jutsu too.
but why katon?
i must have missed an episode... :-?
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hey, i didno't notice ebisu had a jutsu too.
but why katon?
i must have missed an episode... :-?
Leaf nin know katon >.>
watch the Snakes attack on their village....
youll see the Jounin using Katon jutsus to fight back
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hey, i didno't notice ebisu had a jutsu too.
but why katon?
i must have missed an episode... :-?
Leaf nin know katon >.>
watch the Snakes attack on their village....
youll see the Jounin using Katon jutsus to fight back
yeah, i remember that, but why ebisu?
i mean, he's one of the few ninjas that almost never used a jutsu (in the show), while there are many other guys that still attack normally.
maybe neji's working on everyone... that would be cool!
but STOP STEALING CHAKRA!!! :cry:
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BAKA!
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I just came back and entered SL and now this...
BAKA!
<--For sure
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It seems something has changed . . .
Their special attacks hit first round -NO MATTER WHAT- which I find similar to Orochimaru's Snake Arms.
Even getting hit with the special attacks used to allow for a Flawless Fight, if you took no other damage.
Now, it appears that getting hit with only the special attack means no flawless fights. Or, at least it seems I lose a forest fight when facing one of the 'buffed' enemies without losing a single HP.
Did something change?
Am I perhaps missing something else?
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:twisted:
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Is it normal that I destroy Hinata and Neji? I haven't died against them once yet. :P
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i started getting em toay and to tell ya the truth ytheir weak....
i mean >.>;
hitting upto only 20 damage?
temari did more ._.
and like the -3 chakra really mattered.....
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yeah temari killed my alt today...and hinata killed my main character....this was the first time i died, but when i go into fights and i mysteriously lose all my jutsu (Neji)...it sux when you go to fight Kabuto or search suicidally and end up fighting neji or hinata...then you are dead.... :evil:
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Now, it appears that getting hit with only the special attack means no flawless fights. Or, at least it seems I lose a forest fight when facing one of the 'buffed' enemies without losing a single HP.
Did something change?
Nope, it a was well-wrapped request that if they can't touch you it is a flawless fight... but you suffer damage from their buff-attack, so it was only correct that it is no flawless fight anymore =)
I corrected that mistake.
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Blah, ignore this test.
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Now, it appears that getting hit with only the special attack means no flawless fights. Or, at least it seems I lose a forest fight when facing one of the 'buffed' enemies without losing a single HP.
Did something change?
Nope, it a was well-wrapped request that if they can't touch you it is a flawless fight... but you suffer damage from their buff-attack, so it was only correct that it is no flawless fight anymore =)
I corrected that mistake.
this is my fault!!! :cry:
but neji, like this is just impossible to get a flawless against an enemy with buff! i mean, there's nothing we can do to help it.
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Noo! I need meh flawless fights >.<
Losing a FF every time you encounter a Jutsu using monster is a pain -.-
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but neji, like this is just impossible to get a flawless against an enemy with buff! i mean, there's nothing we can do to help it.
exactly. :twisted:
they only take 2 chakra now, so ...
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I think that its Hyuuga Hiashi, but his buff puts negatives on att and def
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Meh, they aren't THAT bad. Kakashi was the only new enemy I had trouble with; chakra stealing is just a minor nuisance.
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i HATE the chakra stealing.
on the other hand, kakashi and sasuke are just too weak. they should be a bit stronger, at least make chidori hit 2 rounds... that would spice up things a bit. like this, i don't even notice when i meet them.
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Urgh, no to two-round Chidori. -____-; It's so eviiiil. If it's two rounds....then two hits would kill me. I have 327 HP at level 14, so two hits of 160, plus any damage that he does through normal attacks, wipes me out. Icky.
Offtopic: Sannin, stop killing me. >.>;
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well, i find the chidori REALLY weak, while i often have problems surviving hinata :-? that's not very realistic...
OFFTOPIC
sorry shigeo, i have problems finding pvp targets, so i don't even watch the name of who i kill
OFFTOPIC
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Eh, Hinata's not the problem..Neji's the more problematic of the two. Let's just hope Hanabi doesn't get a jutsu....>.<;
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Now, it appears that getting hit with only the special attack means no flawless fights. Or, at least it seems I lose a forest fight when facing one of the 'buffed' enemies without losing a single HP.
Did something change?
Nope, it a was well-wrapped request that if they can't touch you it is a flawless fight... but you suffer damage from their buff-attack, so it was only correct that it is no flawless fight anymore =)
I corrected that mistake.
when i resurected today, i had 38 chackra thanks to cs (i was level 15) and i 6 turns.
i usually get as many flawless as many chackra points i have, and this time i could only use lvl 6 of hyouton once, then i was out of turns :cry:
i didn't think it would affect the game THAT much. i lost 32 turns thanks to this new thingy
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neji can you at least change it back to still getting flawless fights after being hit by the buffed monsters, its not air that they hit you no matter what at least give us a chance to get a flawless fight somehow, now i finish all my ff's before my jutsus end :P
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neji can you at least change it back to still getting flawless fights after being hit by the buffed monsters, its not air that they hit you no matter what at least give us a chance to get a flawless fight somehow, now i finish all my ff's before my jutsus end :P
How could you get a flawless fight if the enemy hit you? Common sense.
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Baluski - yes, that seems like common sense that if they were alive & able to hit you, you would not have had a flawless fight.
HOWEVER, if it was determined that I had the ability to go first, and I hit the enemy with an attack that caused damage > 4x their HP, how exactly can they then hit me with their "buffed up attack"?
I understand that there is no "hit > recalculate HP > riposte" calculation in place at the moment.
It is for that very reason that I think if the new "buffed up" enemies hit you ONLY with a jutsu, you should not be penalized . . . ESPECIALLY if you had already dealt enough damage to kill them before they attacked with their own jutsu.
Of course, your mileage may vary.
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:) this is not the final form.
however, if you encounter new enemies, they might not come alone... which will make flawless fights much less likely the higher you go.
though we are currently testing it and also I am checking the core code for it ... adaptions are very likely to be necessary.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not really mad . . . (not that it would or should matter if I were) . . . I mean, I realize that it is just a game.
I guess I'm just been feeling especially cantankerous lately. :P
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^^ no big deal.
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watever man
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1 more mindless post to any thread where you don't enrich it and you will be banned for a few days here.
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i HATE the chakra stealing.
on the other hand, kakashi and sasuke are just too weak. they should be a bit stronger, at least make chidori hit 2 rounds... that would spice up things a bit. like this, i don't even notice when i meet them.
2 chidoris? :shock: I have enough problems with one since I often see sasuke/kakashi while travelling, so two would be murder ._.;
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i HATE the chakra stealing.
on the other hand, kakashi and sasuke are just too weak. they should be a bit stronger, at least make chidori hit 2 rounds... that would spice up things a bit. like this, i don't even notice when i meet them.
2 chidoris? :shock: I have enough problems with one since I often see sasuke/kakashi while travelling, so two would be murder ._.;
c'mon, not even 3 chidori's would kill me, and i'm just a kage
or maybe they get A LOT stronger for grands?
also, neji said the hyuugas would onl steal 2 chackra now, but hiashi just got 5 from me T_T
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i HATE the chakra stealing.
on the other hand, kakashi and sasuke are just too weak. they should be a bit stronger, at least make chidori hit 2 rounds... that would spice up things a bit. like this, i don't even notice when i meet them.
2 chidoris? :shock: I have enough problems with one since I often see sasuke/kakashi while travelling, so two would be murder ._.;
c'mon, not even 3 chidori's would kill me, and i'm just a kage
or maybe they get A LOT stronger for grands?
also, neji said the hyuugas would onl steal 2 chackra now, but hiashi just got 5 from me T_T
Meh, One chidori is around 150 for me. The most i saw it do is 200~. Twice would be 300-400 and I often encounter them twice (Hp is not my strong point) >>
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i HATE the chakra stealing.
on the other hand, kakashi and sasuke are just too weak. they should be a bit stronger, at least make chidori hit 2 rounds... that would spice up things a bit. like this, i don't even notice when i meet them.
2 chidoris? :shock: I have enough problems with one since I often see sasuke/kakashi while travelling, so two would be murder ._.;
c'mon, not even 3 chidori's would kill me, and i'm just a kage
or maybe they get A LOT stronger for grands?
also, neji said the hyuugas would onl steal 2 chackra now, but hiashi just got 5 from me T_T
Meh, One chidori is around 150 for me. The most i saw it do is 200~. Twice would be 300-400 and I often encounter them twice (Hp is not my strong point) >>
oh, then it doesn't get stroner against grand hokages.
well, if other people already ave problems with it, nevermind.
but still, how can hinata be stronger than kakashi and sasuke?
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I dont think she's stronger, she defenetly does less damage (that basing on my alt, my main cant fight her <_<)
The only annoying thing about the hyuugas is the chakra you lose ._.
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Bah! Hinata couldn't kill me unless I had <150 hp! now sasuke, kakshi and ebisu is a different problem....
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Bah! Hinata couldn't kill me unless I had <150 hp! now sasuke, kakshi and ebisu is a different problem....
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WHAT? ebisu does like 50 damage...
and i don't even notice when i fight kakashi and sasuke.
on the other hand, my last fight aginst hinata took me to 9 hp, and i even used items!
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Bah! Hinata couldn't kill me unless I had <150 hp! now sasuke, kakshi and ebisu is a different problem....
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WHAT? ebisu does like 50 damage...
and i don't even notice when i fight kakashi and sasuke.
on the other hand, my last fight aginst hinata took me to 9 hp, and i even used items!
... is your ebisu differrent? o.O
Cause my ebisu does about 120-150 hp using his jutsu...
Now neji and hinata are basically small ants to me compared to kakashi and sasuke
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Bah! Hinata couldn't kill me unless I had <150 hp! now sasuke, kakshi and ebisu is a different problem....
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WHAT? ebisu does like 50 damage...
and i don't even notice when i fight kakashi and sasuke.
on the other hand, my last fight aginst hinata took me to 9 hp, and i even used items!
... is your ebisu differrent? o.O
Cause my ebisu does about 120-150 hp using his jutsu...
Now neji and hinata are basically small ants to me compared to kakashi and sasuke
Neh Neh, Ebisu maybe does less damage to stronger ppl? My ebisu does around 50 :-?
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also, neji said the hyuugas would onl steal 2 chackra now, but hiashi just got 5 from me T_T
Yeah, he just stole either 5 or 7 from me (can't remember if I had 17 or 15 but ended up with 10 afterward).
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this game is getting shitty and shitty. i believe that there will be no1 playing it in the future. in earlier, enemies using jutsu, and now they take away 1 of our forest fight. that means everytime we saw them, we'll lose 1 forest fight. what is this? this is too overwhelming.
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Ill admit that the enemies taking chakra is a bit annoying,but it does make things alot more fun and interesting :twisted:
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The Hyuugas are getting annoying, but I admit it changes a few things about how I play. It might drive new players away, but to people who played longer and are stronger it is a little easier to get by.
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new players won't see them.
I restricted it to certain dks. <5 dks won't see such jutsus.
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The Hyuugas are getting annoying, but I admit it changes a few things about how I play. It might drive new players away, but to people who played longer and are stronger it is a little easier to get by.
I disagree, old players will get frusturated because they're used to the old enemies. If a person just started playing, then it seems like the norm because they know nothing different.
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I read through most of teh seven pages and noticed somethign strange.
No one thanked neji for this.
Its all: " WAHH i died because of a jutsu!" "My chakra got stolen!"
I personally like it, like the challenge and such.
Didnt we have player complaining about how "easy", "boring", and "montonous" the game was? Now that Neji introduces something to solve teh problem, people start complaining.
Dont worry, missing a few flawless fights wont kill anyone, although they are sorely missed >.>
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I read through most of teh seven pages and noticed somethign strange.
No one thanked neji for this.
Its all: " WAHH i died because of a jutsu!" "My chakra got stolen!"
I personally like it, like the challenge and such.
Didnt we have player complaining about how "easy", "boring", and "montonous" the game was? Now that Neji introduces something to solve teh problem, people start complaining.
Yeah, there were a few that wanted the game to be more challenging. I have not seen one of them complain, so the people complaining were likely NOT the ones that wanted it tougher in the first place. I see no contradiction.
I give Oliver respect for the level of involvement that he has for this game. In addition to living his real life. It takes a lot of work, I recognize that and appreciate it.
However, there are a few instances in which he changes the game WITHOUT asking anyone or taking a poll on the subject. That is, of course, his prerogative to do so. Yet, for things like limiting PvP ranges and others, he chooses to take a poll. Again, his priveledge as Admin.
I make my dislikes known, and try to remain respectful about it. I will adapt & overcome these new challenges, or they might change to be a bit more palatable.
In any case, my dislike of this change (or any others for that matter) in no way reflect a disrespect of Oliver and/or his work.
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I dont care it kinda made the game more instrestiing now i have to check before i pree until end so I can be lie i i i i c ii i i i c (hotkeys)
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well, enemies using jutsu still can be accepted. but they appear 2/5 times in average and everytime we saw them, eventhough it's a flawless fight, we still losing a forest fight. this just cant be accepted. that means we'cant get into higher level very easy, we cant stay longer in the forest and what with those donating for just because of kyuubi? their motive was just to raise from lvl1 to 15. but if this case occurs, they'll probably will not donate anymore because using own mounts are better. we can just wait and watch the donation goal drops month to month. yeah, it's fun and challenging. but more easier to die. we're not even finished our forest fights or chakras. we have already died. fun here as well huh? for those higher in dragon kills, yeah they'll stay but for the newbie, they'll probably quit.
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Just to add a few words on when I add something in secret or when I do polls:
I do polls on common things that influence all players and who *can* be discussed.
If there is a "Do you want 100 gems for free?" poll, I can guarantee you that most guys will vote "YES".
Useless to make a poll.
Also, "Do you want the new special where Kakashi does...." is also not good, I would have to give out more information. It's boring not to say "OH, what's that, I have never seen that".
Especially the jutsu enemies were the latter part. Also, they are in development and only "beta" now. It's only 5 out of 170 enemies, I think you can bear it ;)
@itachii
your calculation is flawed.
if you stay at level 15, well, it might be around 1/5 or 1/6, but that's it.
if you are 1-5, if I am not mistaken, the chance is zero.
You have the trait to overreact as far as I see ... "the donation goal drops"<---the goal will not, and most likely neither the donations. Taking it as an argument to reverse the changes and make the game easier for the "poor poor people" ... well, you have to go for another argument.
With Kyuubi, the chance any of the new ones will kill you is about at 2-5% when you have full health.
And READ the next time.
"newbies will likely quit"
I do not consider a 5 oro kill player a newbie. I wrote that previously.
Below that threshold he won't face a jutsu.
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Just to add a few words on when I add something in secret or when I do polls:
I do polls on common things that influence all players and who *can* be discussed.
If there is a "Do you want 100 gems for free?" poll, I can guarantee you that most guys will vote "YES".
Useless to make a poll.
Also, "Do you want the new special where Kakashi does...." is also not good, I would have to give out more information. It's boring not to say "OH, what's that, I have never seen that".
Especially the jutsu enemies were the latter part. Also, they are in development and only "beta" now. It's only 5 out of 170 enemies, I think you can bear it ;)
@itachii
your calculation is flawed.
if you stay at level 15, well, it might be around 1/5 or 1/6, but that's it.
if you are 1-5, if I am not mistaken, the chance is zero.
You have the trait to overreact as far as I see ... "the donation goal drops"<---the goal will not, and most likely neither the donations. Taking it as an argument to reverse the changes and make the game easier for the "poor poor people" ... well, you have to go for another argument.
With Kyuubi, the chance any of the new ones will kill you is about at 2-5% when you have full health.
And READ the next time.
"newbies will likely quit"
I do not consider a 5 oro kill player a newbie. I wrote that previously.
Below that threshold he won't face a jutsu.
i agree with all that (and i'd have voted YES in the gem poll, but also YES in the one about having jutsus.)
for me, this really makes the game a lot better, since forest fights were becoming extremely boring after some dks.
the problem might be this other "no flawless" change, wich ruins many strategies, i think.
and chackra stealing seems a lot less then before, and anyway i tried to invent some strategy to avoid that, or at least keep it at the minimum, wich isn't impoossible.
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Actually, if i remember correctly, quite a LOT of people wanted the game to be more challenging, most of them Kage+ So those people should be happy.
If you think about it, losing one or two flawless fights does NOT ruin your "game stragety' At least, its not supposed to. None of the creatures with jutsus appear turn after turn. I dont see why people complain. Itachii's 2/5 theory is COMPLETELY false.
Out of 15 levels, maybe 3 of them have jutsu creatures. Out of those three levels, they appear VERY rearely, at least for me.
Besides, If you kept track with current news, I believe Neji revealed his plans for jutsu creatures, multiple enemies and new mounts quite a while ago. There was a LOT of positive responses then, now, as soon as Neji deilivers, everyone is unhappy.
I don'T get it >.>
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@itachii
your calculation is flawed.
if you stay at level 15, well, it might be around 1/5 or 1/6, but that's it.
if you are 1-5, if I am not mistaken, the chance is zero.
You have the trait to overreact as far as I see ... "the donation goal drops"<---the goal will not, and most likely neither the donations. Taking it as an argument to reverse the changes and make the game easier for the "poor poor people" ... well, you have to go for another argument.
With Kyuubi, the chance any of the new ones will kill you is about at 2-5% when you have full health.
And READ the next time.
"newbies will likely quit"
I do not consider a 5 oro kill player a newbie. I wrote that previously.
Below that threshold he won't face a jutsu.
sorry? but it is indeed 2/5 times in average. i click on "suicidally" in every match. they appear almost every round sasuke, and it's everytime sasuke. kakashi is seldom and as for ebisu. if you don't believe that you can try it yourself.
the donation goal will not drop dramatically of course. it will be slowly and a little. for sure there's some still donating because they know the fact everyone sharing the same fate. everyone will encounter enemies using jutsu in the forest. so they'll donate and as for some of the newbies, they thought this game was originally like that. they didn't know it and so will do donation. so the donation goal will not drop. it's balanced. but for the old members. i don't think they'll still donate. i have some of my friends saying this. and i don't wish to tell their name. they said the exact same thing as i did. they hate that you have modified this game and it has became so shitty. they'll not donate for kyuubi, i never donate. i don't care about getting kyuubi but these are what they said. they donate just for kyuubi eventhough they had a kyuubi. they just interested in the infinite rounds of kyuubi.
and i'm not doing this to make you change your mind and so the game will recovered as it is originally. i just bursting this out, my dissatisfaction of your deeds and other people's. i don't think it's wrong. everyone could do this and you should have expected as an admin.
and i don't give a shit of your explaination about newbie thingy. who have time or wanted to see your craps since everyone is burning deep inside. the ones that did not saying anything in this thread are those burning deep inside. they respect you and scared getting flamed by their words so they did not writing anything in this thread. but as for me, i'll do!
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@Itachi
Objection noted then. I won't debate your view. You may keep it and treasure it.
If you don't give a s***, why should I then ^^
@Raikiri
exactly. the strategies will adapt, this is what I calculated.
later then, the mounts won't give % bonuses on atk/def anymore, so there will be another change.
the replacements will be bought nin or summons. also likely might be a team under your command. it is not certain *how* exactly.
but I intend to make the daily fights more than "just bring 'em through"
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the replacements will be bought nin or summons. also likely might be a team under your command. it is not certain *how* exactly.
but I intend to make the daily fights more than "just bring 'em through"
well, a few less turns are a good price to pay for this. the forest fights where maybe the worst part in the game, since nothing happened there except special events.
If you think about it, losing one or two flawless fights does NOT ruin your "game stragety' At least, its not supposed to.
a few gamedays ago i lost around 30 flawless fights... and the same happened the day after -_- ...
but now it doesn't happen anymore, i just lose only 2-4 just because of losing chackra, but i can live with that :D
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the forest fights where maybe the worst part in the game, since nothing happened there except special events.
exactly. but it's hard to improve them and *not* push thrice the load to the CPU. -_-
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*SIGHS*
Quit complaining so much & just adapt to the game. My character is quite high in the game & the changes are needed. There is a greater chance of people no longer playing because of "lack" of change. I want even begin on all you cheating boogers that like to share information other places on the web. I have several examples of that. Enjoy staying on your toes.
You/your peers have brought it upon yourself.
;)
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I don't see the huge problem. Yes, it made it a little harder. But you'll level up just as fine. Ok maybe one day Hinata will kill you, big deal. Before the enemies in the forest could use jutsus, leveling up was so easy. The new enemies with jutsus just added a little challenge in the game.
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See,Itachi, thosae who do not complain are not scared, they are content. Most of my friends are happy, some complained once or twice but got used to it.
Seriously though, the previous fights were the same old thing. I dont see how your friends would keep donating if they got bored. So according to you, either way, your friends wouldnt donate correct?
I think Tau summed it up very well, so you die once. Its not like you didnt die before. Is dying againest Hinata so different than dying againest a different creature?
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wait....there was a time enemys didnt use jutsus? :o (hint that i am already used to the update and loving it ^^)
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not that big of a deal ._.;
i got hizashi like?
3-4 times in a row?
its easy to win......
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It's actually somewhat enjoyable, now that I've adapted to seeing them. I look forward to seeing Kankuro and Gaara with jutsus. :P
Also....why doesn't Hanabi have Byakugan as well as the other Hyuuga clan members? If I recall correctly, Hinata's father said that Hanabi had more potential than she did.
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potential dosent mean current skill and speking of hyuugas i fought hinata today a few times and she didnt use her byakuguan so it was like a normal fight before jutsus were added
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It's actually somewhat enjoyable, now that I've adapted to seeing them. I look forward to seeing Kankuro and Gaara with jutsus. :P
Also....why doesn't Hanabi have Byakugan as well as the other Hyuuga clan members? If I recall correctly, Hinata's father said that Hanabi had more potential than she did.
We havent seen what kind of techniques hanabi uses to fight =]
she might use Kaiten, or Jyuuken or even hinata/neji's special moves
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Well, im still an acad and i have not seen a huge attack like you said, of course can be read that they are using byakugan, but maybe its according your lvl, so is different for everyone...
well... like i said im still an acad and really dont know if they will start using those powerfull skills very soon... *shivers* i hope they wont (lol =] :D)
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ummmmmm neji...
are they supposed to attack AFTER they die?
You head for the section of forest which contains creatures of your nightmares, looking for the biggest and baddest ones there.
Sasuke shouts: "I will avenge my parents...! And Obi-Wan!"
~ ~ ~ Fight ~ ~ ~
You have encountered Elite Sasuke which lunges at you with Kunai!
Level: 15
Start of round:
Elite Sasuke's Hitpoints: 256
YOUR Hitpoints: 174
Elite Sasuke surprises you and gets the first round of attack!
Elite Sasuke was swallowed by the sand and suffers 68 damage!
Elite Sasuke was swallowed by the sand and suffers 71 damage!
Elite Sasuke was swallowed by the sand and suffers 50 damage!
Elite Sasuke was swallowed by the sand and suffers 64 damage!
Elite Sasuke was swallowed by the sand and suffers 47 damage!
Elite Sasuke was swallowed by the sand and suffers 69 damage!
Gamabushi jumps into battle.
The big frog warrior extends his tongue, latches onto Elite Sasuke and slams him into the ground for 7 points of damage.
Chidori!
Sasuke starts to attack you faster than you imagined and hits you with his lighting chidori!
Clandestine Memory Kitsuneko is hit by a brutal attack for 108 damage!
Reached his limit already, psft.
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there is no before and after.
1 round is 1 round.
attack/defense are carried out the same time.
same for used jutsus.
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okay i see
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no i mean she attcked me before with it and she dosent now
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there is no before and after.
1 round is 1 round.
attack/defense are carried out the same time.
same for used jutsus.
I know I seem to be beating the same dead horse over and over again . . . but . . .
If that is the case, then what about for regular players?
If I PvP someone, and they hit me for more than my HP the first hit, I do NOT get an option to get a hit in. It makes sense, because I am dead.
If I plunder someone's dwelling (an instance where I can use jutsu) and I try to attack, they riposte for more than my HP, I do not get a chance to attack. Again, it makes sense because I am dead.
Why in those scenarios does it calculate correctly but in the forest it does not?
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The difference is because in your two examples YOU are DEAD!
Think of it as a price to pay for ambushing someone & trying to kill them. ;)
Besides, the new system isn't too bad at all. I kinda like the less flawless fights...hundreds of turns a day are not good on my fingers & toes... :roll:
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The difference is because in your two examples YOU are DEAD!
Think of it as a price to pay for ambushing someone & trying to kill them. ;)
Besides, the new system isn't too bad at all. I kinda like the less flawless fights...hundreds of turns a day are not good on my fingers & toes... :roll:
Toes, KBooger? :P
Hurry up and give Zaku his Zankuuha! I want more jutsu enemies! Pakkun makes it too easy! :twisted:
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*evil smirk*
Just wait until the mount is gone...then just wait when you try to summon your mount, then...
:twisted:
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Thank god i'm using my kyuubi to the max >_>, so i can rest when the new change occurs =P
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Believe me, you can be much stronger if you have *a companion* that takes hits for you...
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*wants a companion to take hits for him*
XD
Ahh... i wish shukaku would do that -_-
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Believe me, you can be much stronger if you have *a companion* that takes hits for you...
something makes me think the companion won't like these hits...
*terrible suspect* :shock:
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It'll be interesting to see mounts finally take some damage. Perhaps the mounts should also have certain attributes such as being tired, angry, sad, happy , etc..
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Believe me, you can be much stronger if you have *a companion* that takes hits for you...
my poor pakkun >__________> and i jsut fought three hinata with byakugan and won that was hell >___>
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I agree,
although it is kinda cool seeing the enemies use jutsu i think its Kinda ridiculous That when Sasuke or Kakashi use Chidori it basically kills me.....
i swear i have died by sasuke in the forest like....5 or 6 times all because of that Chidori!!
I mean i always have to use up an unnecessary amount of chakra to kill him, even though i use Suna Shuriken to take him down pretty quick
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tch. One of my files is an acad lv. 13, I went thrillseeking, and suddenly there's tsunade. For about 10 rounds I was killing her, and was ahead by a bit........then she healed herself for 95 points and none of my jutsus even could save me, I couldn't even run away
I'm not sure if that's supposed to happen, but that hurt.
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it is tsunade.. =) a healer.
you will meet more of those folks...
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>_< you should be happy that she doesn´t use her metal fist, actually we could make her half the oro strengh because she is a sannin ^_^
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>_< you should be happy that she doesn´t use her metal fist, actually we could make her half the oro strengh because she is a sannin ^_^
hussh <___<;;
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I can't believe I lost to stupid Sasuke AGAIN! I forget all about who I'm targeting and just think "kill! kill! kill!" without thinking who to take out first.
>_< you should be happy that she doesn´t use her metal fist, actually we could make her half the oro strengh because she is a sannin ^_^
hussh <___<;;
seriously...
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Good Idea for Tsunade by the way.
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Kankuro could poison with his smoke bombs
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noted.
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noted.
Same for Sasori, his normal attacks could poison you. :roll:
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I know. :twisted:
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If the last few posts are under consideration, cannot it also be considered that if you are "Lawful Good" (or "x Good") that Tsunade (and many others) would not attack you? Or perhaps if you were a combination of "x Good" and either Leaf or Wind, you would not face certain enemies in the forest.
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If the last few posts are under consideration, cannot it also be considered that if you are "Lawful Good" (or "x Good") that Tsunade (and many others) would not attack you? Or perhaps if you were a combination of "x Good" and either Leaf or Wind, you would not face certain enemies in the forest.
And then you'll face enemies that Evil can't fight.
I don't think it's a good idea.
Anyways...
Kisame-->suck out chakra with sword
Gaara could protect himself with sand
Lee-->Leaf Whirlind
Are the sound four there? they could have some nifty jutsus
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There could be something like encountering all the sound 4 members like in the Multi fights in the forest and having them make the Purple wall thingy... <<
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Guy's Shh about all this >__> dang...
As for the purple wall thingy, that's just to keep something encaged inside... <<;;
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But ti can also be used to protect themselves sharuto >>
And besides that they could use their CS2 >>
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Guy's Shh about all this >__> dang...
As for the purple wall thingy, that's just to keep something encaged inside... <<;;
They could put the dude looking like Orochimaru in it <<;
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with that wall, they should have like 99999999 defense, since we know from the anime that noone could break it (not even anbu or the hokage).
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with that wall, they should have like 99999999 defense, since we know from the anime that noone could break it (not even anbu or the hokage).
I don't think that's the problem, it's because you can't touch the wall that's its annoying >.>;
Or they could seal your CS away till new day ._. seems a bit more reasonable
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:twisted: I already have plans for the CS in that case.
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Ero-Sennin could use Rasengan for that event :) and fight along side one of his companions. Does naruto have any jutsu? He coudl have Kage Bushin or Rasengan, or maybe both. Not sure is Asuma is a ememy or not but he could have Chakra knives. Sasuke or the sound five could use their curse seal to give them more hp, attack, defence, and stronger jutsu.
That would be fun :twisted:
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About time something was made for CS users << >> <<
But it would be cool to have Jiraya use a Jutsu with one of the frog summons...Its too easy overwise
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I still want to see one of the Otonin Genin use jutsus....especially Dosu.
His sound vibrator thing could act as a debuff, take of 15% attack and defense as long as he's alive, and do some damage each round....maybe several hits of 20-30 each?
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I still want to see one of the Otonin Genin use jutsus....especially Dosu.
His sound vibrator thing could act as a debuff, take of 15% attack and defense as long as he's alive, and do some damage each round....maybe several hits of 20-30 each?
And that's how you kill off the jounins. <<
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I still want to see one of the Otonin Genin use jutsus....especially Dosu.
His sound vibrator thing could act as a debuff, take of 15% attack and defense as long as he's alive, and do some damage each round....maybe several hits of 20-30 each?
And that's how you kill off the jounins. <<
when you say "several", do you mean 1 or 2?
'cause more than that would be impossible for low ranks
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I still want to see one of the Otonin Genin use jutsus....especially Dosu.
His sound vibrator thing could act as a debuff, take of 15% attack and defense as long as he's alive, and do some damage each round....maybe several hits of 20-30 each?
And that's how you kill off the jounins. <<
when you say "several", do you mean 1 or 2?
'cause more than that would be impossible for low ranks
Dosu-Kinuta lunges at you with Sound Vibrator!
Your opponent catches you offguard!
The soundwaves throw you off balance!(Take off 15% att. and def. as long as Dosu is alive, or for a set number of rounds)
Sonic waves hit you for (insert damage here[15-25 damage, maybe])!
Sonci waves hit you for (insert damage here[15-25 damage, maybe])!
How's this look?
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I still want to see one of the Otonin Genin use jutsus....especially Dosu.
His sound vibrator thing could act as a debuff, take of 15% attack and defense as long as he's alive, and do some damage each round....maybe several hits of 20-30 each?
And that's how you kill off the jounins. <<
when you say "several", do you mean 1 or 2?
'cause more than that would be impossible for low ranks
Dosu-Kinuta lunges at you with Sound Vibrator!
Your opponent catches you offguard!
The soundwaves throw you off balance!(Take off 15% att. and def. as long as Dosu is alive, or for a set number of rounds)
Sonic waves hit you for (insert damage here[15-25 damage, maybe])!
Sonci waves hit you for (insert damage here[15-25 damage, maybe])!
How's this look?
Looks better o.O
What lvl do you see Dosu at again? <<
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I still want to see one of the Otonin Genin use jutsus....especially Dosu.
His sound vibrator thing could act as a debuff, take of 15% attack and defense as long as he's alive, and do some damage each round....maybe several hits of 20-30 each?
And that's how you kill off the jounins. <<
when you say "several", do you mean 1 or 2?
'cause more than that would be impossible for low ranks
Dosu-Kinuta lunges at you with Sound Vibrator!
Your opponent catches you offguard!
The soundwaves throw you off balance!(Take off 15% att. and def. as long as Dosu is alive, or for a set number of rounds)
Sonic waves hit you for (insert damage here[15-25 damage, maybe])!
Sonci waves hit you for (insert damage here[15-25 damage, maybe])!
How's this look?
Looks better o.O
What lvl do you see Dosu at again? <<
At level 3(?) and 8.The one I want is the level 8 one, though I suppose a watered-down version of him could work for the level 3...
(Lvl 2) Zaku Abumi lunges at you with Zankuha!
Zaku Abumi fires a blast of air at you and hits you for(10-15 damage)!
Another guy who needs a jutsu.
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I still want to see one of the Otonin Genin use jutsus....especially Dosu.
His sound vibrator thing could act as a debuff, take of 15% attack and defense as long as he's alive, and do some damage each round....maybe several hits of 20-30 each?
And that's how you kill off the jounins. <<
when you say "several", do you mean 1 or 2?
'cause more than that would be impossible for low ranks
Dosu-Kinuta lunges at you with Sound Vibrator!
Your opponent catches you offguard!
The soundwaves throw you off balance!(Take off 15% att. and def. as long as Dosu is alive, or for a set number of rounds)
Sonic waves hit you for (insert damage here[15-25 damage, maybe])!
Sonci waves hit you for (insert damage here[15-25 damage, maybe])!
How's this look?
Looks better o.O
What lvl do you see Dosu at again? <<
At level 3(?) and 8.The one I want is the level 8 one, though I suppose a watered-down version of him could work for the level 3...
(Lvl 2) Zaku Abumi lunges at you with Zankuha!
Zaku Abumi fires a blast of air at you and hits you for(10-15 damage)!
Another guy who needs a jutsu.
And something simaler with Kin involving her bells like
Kin Tsuchi lunges at you with bells
kin thrown senbon at you with bells on them
you start halucinating!
something like that >>
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And something simaler with Kin involving her bells like
Kin Tsuchi lunges at you with bells
kin thrown senbon at you with bells on them
you start halucinating!
something like that >>
Maybe...though she would just do a debuff, and no damage. Which stinks.
Gamatatsu lunges at you with bad dub actor!
Gamatatsu's whiny voice makes your ears bleed and you lose 100 health.
^So true.
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And something simaler with Kin involving her bells like
Kin Tsuchi lunges at you with bells
kin thrown senbon at you with bells on them
you start halucinating!
something like that >>
Maybe...though she would just do a debuff, and no damage. Which stinks.
Gamatatsu lunges at you with bad dub actor!
Gamatatsu's whiny voice makes your ears bleed and you lose 100 health.
^So true.
That said, she can still trap you in a genjutsu like technique O_o
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That said, she can still trap you in a genjutsu like technique O_o
True...but it's tough to do damage in a Genjutsu, and we only saw hers for a brief time.
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That said, she can still trap you in a genjutsu like technique O_o
True...but it's tough to do damage in a Genjutsu, and we only saw hers for a brief time.
Well from the technique she used she could simply be harder to hit :/ as in you miss more
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That said, she can still trap you in a genjutsu like technique O_o
True...but it's tough to do damage in a Genjutsu, and we only saw hers for a brief time.
Well from the technique she used she could simply be harder to hit :/ as in you miss more
So just have her technique be a debuff....lower your attack by 15-20% again, maybe?
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That said, she can still trap you in a genjutsu like technique O_o
True...but it's tough to do damage in a Genjutsu, and we only saw hers for a brief time.
Well from the technique she used she could simply be harder to hit :/ as in you miss more
So just have her technique be a debuff....lower your attack by 15-20% again, maybe?
Meh...she would still be too easy then
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That said, she can still trap you in a genjutsu like technique O_o
True...but it's tough to do damage in a Genjutsu, and we only saw hers for a brief time.
Well from the technique she used she could simply be harder to hit :/ as in you miss more
So just have her technique be a debuff....lower your attack by 15-20% again, maybe?
Meh...she would still be too easy then
Alright....we can up it to lowering attack and defense by 50% each. :twisted:
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Sounds like fun! xD
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Dont revive old topics with stupid post's
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A mod..lock this please?