Shinobi Legends Forum
Game Development => Feature Requests => Shops or other instances => Topic started by: Thecurse on October 19, 2012, 12:56:42 AM
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I wish to discuss the issue of not being able to swap an earned reset for another (Or to transfer it to an already present category). I feel that via petition, a person should be able to request a reset swap. Though there should be limits or conditions set to prevent this becoming from becoming a novelty. One thought of mine was to limit the transference of a kg to only being able to do it once, maybe twice, per character; if of course the conditions are met.
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No, picking KG should be done with care. So, if you picked one and now no longer want it then make a new character or say it's something else in RP. However, the latter option won't be accepted by every body.
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I also have to agree. Though I'm more so lenient on the factor of one accidentally choosing a wrong reborn, by clicking the Yes button without realizing. Though for say if one had been reset-ed into e.x. Grand Master of the Uchiha there is not in any fair chance for them to simply switch to Grand Master of the Hyuuga as we all know the difference in leveling wise is grand. This causes much confusion and more so disturbance to the mods and neji as a new trend can come along in which one can simply use the fastest leveling resets to just end up switching them without worrying about their desired resets effect on leveling.
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Although it does suck not being able to test what each KG is like beforehand, it has been brought up before and the answer thus far has been no. You can check these prior threads for all the ideas tossed around/the verdicts and conclusions of each discussion.
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,6917.msg202605.html#msg202605
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,6817.0.html
It's a bit of reading up to do, but it has some other peoples' ideas and opinions brought up in regards to switching or swapping KG. One way to experience all the different KG in the forest would be to just make new alts (if you're patient enough) or buy already reset accounts.
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No, picking KG should be done with care. So, if you picked one and now no longer want it then make a new character or say it's something else in RP. However, the latter option won't be accepted by every body.
I agree with you on resets being done with more care. But I still feel being trapped with a reset can sometimes hinder a character in-game more than aid them, and I for one feel that there should be measures in place for such. What if we were able to drop a reset and gain 40 DK's? would that seem more fair?
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I also have to agree. Though I'm more so lenient on the factor of one accidentally choosing a wrong reborn, by clicking the Yes button without realizing. Though for say if one had been reset-ed into e.x. Grand Master of the Uchiha there is not in any fair chance for them to simply switch to Grand Master of the Hyuuga as we all know the difference in leveling wise is grand. This causes much confusion and more so disturbance to the mods and neji as a new trend can come along in which one can simply use the fastest leveling resets to just end up switching them without worrying about their desired resets effect on leveling.
Again, I completely agree with you. Swapping out a advanced or maxed category was the furthest from my mind. I was thinking more on swapping 1 (possibly 2) resets.
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No, picking KG should be done with care. So, if you picked one and now no longer want it then make a new character or say it's something else in RP. However, the latter option won't be accepted by every body.
I agree with you on resets being done with more care. But I still feel being trapped with a reset can sometimes hinder a character in-game more than aid them, and I for one feel that there should be measures in place for such. What if we were able to drop a reset and gain 40 DK's? would that seem more fair?
Anything can be deemed fair, if you're willing to shell out a few bucks. Such is the way of the internet.
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Although it does suck not being able to test what each KG is like beforehand, it has been brought up before and the answer thus far has been no. You can check these prior threads for all the ideas tossed around/the verdicts and conclusions of each discussion.
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,6917.msg202605.html#msg202605
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,6817.0.html
It's a bit of reading up to do, but it has some other peoples' ideas and opinions brought up in regards to switching or swapping KG. One way to experience all the different KG in the forest would be to just make new alts (if you're patient enough) or buy already reset accounts.
My favorite idea of the links was the one where Zenaku suggested 10k DP to be the minimum cost to switch a KG. That seems fair.
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Although it does suck not being able to test what each KG is like beforehand, it has been brought up before and the answer thus far has been no. You can check these prior threads for all the ideas tossed around/the verdicts and conclusions of each discussion.
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,6917.msg202605.html#msg202605
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,6817.0.html
It's a bit of reading up to do, but it has some other peoples' ideas and opinions brought up in regards to switching or swapping KG. One way to experience all the different KG in the forest would be to just make new alts (if you're patient enough) or buy already reset accounts.
My favorite idea of the links was the one where Zenaku suggested 10k DP to be the minimum cost to switch a KG. That seems fair.
Now, see that I agree with because not every one has that much.
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Well now that we have this discussion going on about the Rinnegan in light of the new developments in the manga, it might be nice to re-do your rests cause otherwise people are gonna get screwed on something they though and planned out in good faith that has suddenly been or is in the making of being made, null and void.
And I see THAT as quite an unfair problem to though who put their resets into rinnegan in good faith that they would be able to use it in a legit fashion.
Now anyone who does not follow a specific set of rules and rests and DNA combos is just going to have their RP voided by people who object to them?
I think this is going to create a huge fiasco.
I think re-do on resets should be implemented.
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Well now that we have this discussion going on about the Rinnegan in light of the new developments in the manga, it might be nice to re-do your rests cause otherwise people are gonna get screwed on something they though and planned out in good faith that has suddenly been or is in the making of being made, null and void.
And I see THAT as quite an unfair problem to though who put their resets into rinnegan in good faith that they would be able to use it in a legit fashion.
Now anyone who does not follow a specific set of rules and rests and DNA combos is just going to have their RP voided by people who object to them?
I think this is going to create a huge fiasco.
I think re-do on resets should be implemented.
It would necessarily make things legit. Yumei's one alt has Ice Release. So he is gonna change that in game and suddenly his character is going to stop being a Yuki clan member? Or lose ice release and gain wood release magically? It wouldn't really make sense.
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Resets on KG, in my opinoin, should be a no-no. Further capitalization needed to make my stance clear I believe.
10K DP can, with time, be accumulated, and can be relatively quickly achieved with Master resets in particularly Uchiha. If it's bought... Fair enough, you paid your price literally.
Swapping even one reset voids out the warning that Neji puts everytime you reset, and even in the wiki. If you get to the time of reset, choose it carefully. And carefully would no longer apply if swapping KG is implemented.
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Although it does suck not being able to test what each KG is like beforehand, it has been brought up before and the answer thus far has been no. You can check these prior threads for all the ideas tossed around/the verdicts and conclusions of each discussion.
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,6917.msg202605.html#msg202605
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,6817.0.html
It's a bit of reading up to do, but it has some other peoples' ideas and opinions brought up in regards to switching or swapping KG. One way to experience all the different KG in the forest would be to just make new alts (if you're patient enough) or buy already reset accounts.
My favorite idea of the links was the one where Zenaku suggested 10k DP to be the minimum cost to switch a KG. That seems fair.
Now, see that I agree with because not every one has that much.
Agreed.
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Well now that we have this discussion going on about the Rinnegan in light of the new developments in the manga, it might be nice to re-do your rests cause otherwise people are gonna get screwed on something they though and planned out in good faith that has suddenly been or is in the making of being made, null and void.
And I see THAT as quite an unfair problem to though who put their resets into rinnegan in good faith that they would be able to use it in a legit fashion.
Now anyone who does not follow a specific set of rules and rests and DNA combos is just going to have their RP voided by people who object to them?
I think this is going to create a huge fiasco.
I think re-do on resets should be implemented.
It would necessarily make things legit. Yumei's one alt has Ice Release. So he is gonna change that in game and suddenly his character is going to stop being a Yuki clan member? Or lose ice release and gain wood release magically? It wouldn't really make sense.
Well like you said it would make things legit. People generally can swap out kgs already, atleast this way there would be a proper way of doing it with a hefty price set so as to prevent it from being done as much as it's done now.
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Hm...
I suggest creating a shop where one is able to forget a technique or such (details can be worked out later of course).
I would have said pay X amount of points to forget a technique, but seems a bit simplistic.
Training to forget, not something new at all. A shop dedicated for one of SL's core features, seems to be worth it.
Easy for me to simply shoot down the idea and say "no" like previous people have, and it can also be easy to
offer up a new approach like others already have. If members speak up and think they would like something along the lines of what is being purposed,
then we should entertain the idea. If members find this to be trivial, lets focus on other issues, no problem- speak up though. :D
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It is a bit tricky mechanic - wise... the re-distribution of resets I mean.
As for a model, it shouldn't be too expensive, but on the other hand not too cheap either, making it 10k DP is a bit over the edge I think.
I thought about items that drop - and make you go somewhere to get a reset, limit x items per person all-the-time. Or a rare drop on an oro kill (which would make sitters mad). Hmm.
This type of change would be a new game mechanic - I'd like to use items more than now.
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Get all the keys and you can open up a treasure chest, where a beatiful enchantress (or enchanter) offers you the ability to change your reset.
I'm not thrilled at the idea of resetting KG's, but I can try to contribute. :P
Or, for those who don't like or find that key guy too easy, maybe, as Neji put it, a limit on how often the event occurs at all.
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It is a bit tricky mechanic - wise... the re-distribution of resets I mean.
As for a model, it shouldn't be too expensive, but on the other hand not too cheap either, making it 10k DP is a bit over the edge I think.
I thought about items that drop - and make you go somewhere to get a reset, limit x items per person all-the-time. Or a rare drop on an oro kill (which would make sitters mad). Hmm.
This type of change would be a new game mechanic - I'd like to use items more than now.
Thats an interesting idea. The only problems would be for those with "Bad luck" like me; in which I'm sure many like me share. I recall a similar event where the character defeats some key guy and grabs a key, and thats awesome. But no matter how many keys I took I never discovered the use of them (I was to determined to ask anyone I guess) . And for the rare drop I, along with others, have never even seen pass the 0star of the SST lol maybe I reset to soon who knows. This brings me to say I'd rather pay DP or even trade 2 for 1 for a reset than be stressed with getting a rare event or such that I may not even get.
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I'm going to have to agree with Curse here. Luck is a lady, and ladies can be fickle. I'd prefer to simply spend DP. Hell it could start at 5000ish and go up in price like renaming accounts.
On the chance that it does become an event, I suggest utilizing Eric's idea or something similar. At least then it wouldn't be ultra impossible to get the event. Maybe those items like "Statue of Yondaime" or "Rune Bracelet" could be used?
I don't know about programming and such but it sounds like a lot more effort than simply buying a reallocation of KG.
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I was thinking about "having both", but random chance for one guy, many DP for the next ... not very nice.
First, I need to figure out a system for that. I did not have that in mind when I did them.