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[Bocchiere]

Can this just stop being used? Seriously? From what I understand this technique has you shunshin and grab something right before you are hit, and you have to do hand signs. So you can't substitute while tied up, or if you can't make hand signs for any other reason. Sharingan should also be able to see through it, the wiki just says it is an optical illusion. So I should know if you substituted with something and I should even be able to stop you since I can see where you are moving. Anyway, posting this because, can we get a handle on what this move does? Just thinking about this being used by people makes my stomach do loops. Anyone wondering why I brought this up now is that I noticed god mod heading toward one of my rp's and it reminded me of this. So how exactly does this work?

[cmage]

No  Kawarimi = No Izanagi = No Jikukan Ido

[Camel]

I don't see what you're complaining about again...it's a supplementary jutsu that's taught at the Shinobi Academy, what's next, we void Shunshin no Jutsu altogether?

[Chika]

I acknowledge the jutsu, there's nothing wrong with it actually. Abusing it continously is another story.

[Bocchiere]

I acknowledge the jutsu, there's nothing wrong with it actually. Abusing it continously is another story.

*Ignores the first two trolling comments* That was the idea I was getting at. I wanted to get a concrete definition down and when it would and would not work.

[Camel]

*wasn't actually trolling but calling it how he saw it* 

Also I don't recall that anyone within the entire series using Sharingan to "see" through a Kawarimi when it's listed as a supplementary jutsu not genjutsu as you previously stated.
Most you could do is copy, most unique Kawarimis that people use on here by analyzing the hand seals and the jutsu's execution.

[Bocchiere]

*wasn't actually trolling but calling it how he saw it* 

Also I don't recall that anyone within the entire series using Sharingan to "see" through a Kawarimi when it's listed as a supplementary jutsu not genjutsu as you previously stated.
Most you could do is copy, most unique Kawarimis that people use on here by analyzing the hand seals and the jutsu's execution.

It says on the wiki you use an optical illusion to disguise the switch, so what does that mean?

[Camel]

*wasn't actually trolling but calling it how he saw it* 

Also I don't recall that anyone within the entire series using Sharingan to "see" through a Kawarimi when it's listed as a supplementary jutsu not genjutsu as you previously stated.
Most you could do is copy, most unique Kawarimis that people use on here by analyzing the hand seals and the jutsu's execution.

It says on the wiki you use an optical illusion to disguise the switch, so what does that mean?

I guess it means you can layer a genjutsu over another ninjutsu to disguise it's appearance and fool those around except those who are adept with Doujutsu.
I recall that some chuunin proctors did this to hide the room number where the written test for the chuunin exams would occur.

[Bocchiere]

*wasn't actually trolling but calling it how he saw it* 

Also I don't recall that anyone within the entire series using Sharingan to "see" through a Kawarimi when it's listed as a supplementary jutsu not genjutsu as you previously stated.
Most you could do is copy, most unique Kawarimis that people use on here by analyzing the hand seals and the jutsu's execution.

It says on the wiki you use an optical illusion to disguise the switch, so what does that mean?

I guess it means you can layer a genjutsu over another ninjutsu to disguise it's appearance and fool those around except those who are adept with Doujutsu.
I recall that some chuunin proctors did this to hide the room number where the written test for the chuunin exams would occur.

So then I could see them trying to Kawarimi, like I said.

[Chika]

By optical illusion, it only really means it makes the attacker continue to think they successfully hit their target, where in reality, they haven't.

Even a user with a canon dōjutsu won't be able to sense the switch, that is what the technique was made for. Who would make a useless technique like that if the opponent could still see/track the user...

[Bocchiere]

By optical illusion, it only really means it makes the attacker continue to think they successfully hit their target, where in reality, they haven't.

Even a user with a canon dōjutsu won't be able to sense the switch, that is what the technique was made for. Who would make a useless technique like that if the opponent could still see/track the user...

If they aren't literally moving and grabbing something then it is a space time ninjutsu, which it is not.

[Chika]

If anything, it relates more to summoning jutsu than space time. The simple fact is, the user is only substituting his/her body with an inanimate object, which both exist in the real world, not an alternate dimension.

[Bocchiere]

If anything, it relates more to summoning jutsu than space time. The simple fact is, the user is only substituting his/her body with an inanimate object, which both exist in the real world, not an alternate dimension.

So why can you just summon whatever the camel?

[Chika]

Well that part of the technique has always been BROKEN.

Like I said earlier, limitations...

Edit: Also, if I can recall correctly, the substitution has to be switched with an inanimate object in the vicinity.

[Bocchiere]

Well that part of the technique has always been BROKEN.

Like I said earlier, limitations...

Edit: Also, if I can recall correctly, the substitution has to be switched with an inanimate object in the vicinity.

That's one part I'd like to get set in stone, what is the range limit?  10 feet around you in all directions?