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[Jolt]

I am a current sharingan user through an implant that I was given by Fifty/Rares. I would hope to get this to be used more often by those with pirated Sharingan and Byakugan who should receive the effects of the implant after a set amount of turns. Here's what I sent a to a few on the site and I was given feedback that what I suggested would be fair:

Would it be fair if I make it so the sharingan I have start to effect me (3 tomoe wise) after a certain amount of posts...say 12-15 post (with a Biju) and about 6-8 post (without a biju)? Or should I be able to go a bit higher on both? This has nothing to do with bocch by the way but just to get an idea of how a sharingan implant should affect the user of a non-uchiha.

The reason I suggest this is because if you actually think about how long fights last in-game, which is usually less than a hour, even those with pirated dojutsu could use it to the potential of a pure uchiha. This wouldn't be right and I would hope this could change from now on to continue the difference between a implant and real uchiha sharingan/byakugan user. I believe, after seeing a few others go over this long ago, that Dojutsu are the only things that can be pirated besides Senju DNA...but even with Senju DNA I think the usage of Mokuton should be void unless you want your character to have Mokuton through DNA after you have resetted into in-game, much like Yuki.

Input would be nice just to see everyone views on how this should go.

 

[Akasaka Rakudo]

Well what do you mean by affect? Would you pass out after those turns passed? Also I don't think a bijuu would change anything, technically, you just have a second much larger chakra pool to draw from. So you'd still be as drained of normal chakra in how ever many turns and would just have that to fall back on.

[Jolt]

I don't think no one can compare to Shippuden Kakashi and his Semi-Mastery of the Sharingan...took him 2 and a half years to get to where he is at with it. My character has had it for almost 2 years, 2 years in sept. If kakashi can go a day with his 3 tomoe active and not have any of the chakra taxing effects then I believe someone with the same experience as him should be allowed to use it to what I suggested and it be fair, for both Dōjutsu.

With the chakra transfer technique that every Tailed Beast can do, there is why I said it would be higher with a biju. Those I talked to on the site agree this would be fair.

[Akasaka Rakudo]

If kakashi can go a day with his 3 tomoe active and not have any of the chakra taxing effects

No? Kakashi in Shippuden is better than Kakashi in the first Naruto, with more chakra and chakra control. The Sharingan still drains just as much it just no longer affects him as badly because of that.

What I mean with the bijuu as that the turns should be the same because your own chakra pool would be the same. Two Jounin with the same levels of chakra and control with implanted Sharingan would both run out at the same time, but the one with a bijuu can then just start using his bijuu chakra. You still didn't explain what you meant by it affecting you after the turns are up.

[Jolt]

If kakashi can go a day with his 3 tomoe active and not have any of the chakra taxing effects

No? Kakashi in Shippuden is better than Kakashi in the first Naruto, with more chakra and chakra control. The Sharingan still drains just as much it just no longer affects him as badly because of that.

What I mean with the bijuu as that the turns should be the same because your own chakra pool would be the same. Two Jounin with the same levels of chakra and control with implanted Sharingan would both run out at the same time, but the one with a bijuu can then just start using his bijuu chakra. You still didn't explain what you meant by it affecting you after the turns are up.

You just said what I am implying. My character has grown in both chakra and chakra control so I could claim the same thing but here on sl where fights do no last longer than a hour, the more you get better with your character the more post you should be able to use the implanted sharingan before getting exhausted.

If a Jinchūriki runs out of chakra, they have a backup which basically extends the amount of post one can use the sharingan for a longer period of time...Same with Byakugan implants.

This thread is only a mere opinion to hear what others think.

[Akasaka Rakudo]

I thought you meant that the Sharingan was actually not draining his chakra, my mistake. If that is how you want to do it then the turn limit would have to be made for each bijuu since each one has more chakra than the last.

[Kage]

This honestly depends on how long a person has actually had and trained with their doujutsu. Part I Kakashi could only last a single battle with the Sharingan before feeling severe fatigue and needing extensive periods of bed rest (Land of Waves arc). Early Part II Kakashi is able to last a whole day's-worth with it. But when it comes to using the Mangekyou, using Kamui three times in one day meant hospitalizing him for a week. But later training and proficiency allowed him to use Kamui a bit more often, but was still taxing on his chakra. Later/Current Part II Kakashi is able to use Kamui about five times before feeling tired.

In short, Kakashi is a prime example of what pirated-doujutsu users should follow when measuring the amount of time they can actually keep their doujutsu active. Ao can be another good example with his Byakugan. It's been apparent though, that both of them have needed to cover their eyes to conserve their chakra, even though Ao can activate or deactivate his at will.

Nagato on the other hand, is somewhat a different case. He has Uzumaki hacks, which give him an exceptionally strong life force and longevity. With these two things, he is able to live through and survive much of the Rinnegan's techniques, which have been stated to be chakra-taxing in themselves. Especially the giant Shinra Tensei and the Samsara technique. Even the use of chakra receivers between the main Rinnegan user and their summons/paths could take a bit of chakra, since they would share a constant field of vision all the time. This is also a part of the reason why Obito limited his use of the Rinnegan to only abilities of the Outer Path and some attempts here and there at using the Human Path. Even with himself being a Uchiha and having Hashirama's cells composing most of his body, it would hamper his chakra pool to use all of the techniques the Rinnegan grants.

So yeah, it's pretty obvious that pirated-doujutsu do have their risks. Heck, any pirated KG have their risks in using. My suggestion: use them sparingly like Kakashi and the others. Even if you do reach some mastery over using them, you will still have a lot more risks in using them when compared to naturals. Although having a Bijuu will grant you guys some extra chakra here and there, the amount you actually have access to depends on your mastery of tails. Don't push yourselves too far with that either, since you could end up having your Bijuus taking yourselves over and running them loose.

[Akasaka Rakudo]

Also, do an implanted Sharingan, Byakugan, and Rinnegan all drain the same amount? Also, Jolt for instance, has an implanted Sharingan AND Rinnegan, so logically he'd still be at 6-8 posts even with the bijuu. That would need to be accounted for, as well as all 3 if anyone actually allows people to do what Rakudo was claiming.

[Sabumaru]

Also, do an implanted Sharingan, Byakugan, and Rinnegan all drain the same amount? Also, Jolt for instance, has an implanted Sharingan AND Rinnegan, so logically he'd still be at 6-8 posts even with the bijuu. That would need to be accounted for, as well as all 3 if anyone actually allows people to do what Rakudo was claiming.

This all makes this seem really difficult for something a lot of people won't follow along with. Don't a lot of people RP with pretty much unlimited chakra? Sure we call people out on taxing things, like mountain-sized summons and cursing the shadow of an entire canyon (just an example). But even then only a certain few times do we say "You wouldn't be able to shoot out 10 ninjutsus in 10 turns." from what I've seen.
Maybe I'm just too drunk.

[UettoSenju]

What if I was to give Jolt some Senju DNA.... DNA coming form the exhead of the clan. Then would he be able to share in some Senju hax and not suffer these consequences as much. Just wondering....

I would have to think with him having and trained the eye to a good degree for rp standards, having a tailed beast worth of chakra to fall back on, and Senju DNA hax he could go awhile without facing fatigue from keep the normal Sharingan in play, of course MS still take a pretty good toll.

[Jolt]

What if I was to give Jolt some Senju DNA.... DNA coming form the exhead of the clan. Then would he be able to share in some Senju hax and not suffer these consequences as much. Just wondering....

I would have to think with him having and trained the eye to a good degree for rp standards, having a tailed beast worth of chakra to fall back on, and Senju DNA hax he could go awhile without facing fatigue from keep the normal Sharingan in play, of course MS still take a pretty good toll.

I have Senju DNA from Chika already who got it from a Highly ranked Senju according to him wanting to get Mokuton that way with his resets in it when he was still here. He gave me the DNA from that Senju NPC also.

I've trained with the sharingan, my body, my chakra control and the latter for the 2 years since I got the eye in rp and not just a made up story.

This is why I say those who have trained with it and the larger your chakra and better chakra control can increase their usage. I asked should the example I given be higher for me to give an example for the rest of people who have implants.

@Kirk: I've never used the MS form and I never planned to, but you've said everything I am trying to get across. So the amount of posts I can have my 3 tomoe active should increase due to all that training...2 years worth.

[Akasaka Rakudo]

What if I was to give Jolt some Senju DNA.... DNA coming form the exhead of the clan. Then would he be able to share in some Senju hax and not suffer these consequences as much. Just wondering....

I would have to think with him having and trained the eye to a good degree for rp standards, having a tailed beast worth of chakra to fall back on, and Senju DNA hax he could go awhile without facing fatigue from keep the normal Sharingan in play, of course MS still take a pretty good toll.

You could totally claim to do that after his fight.

[Luka]

Except for someone who isn't a senju trying to use that DNA is going to have an additional strain on them. Just look at Danzo.

[UettoSenju]

Except for someone who isn't a senju trying to use that DNA is going to have an additional strain on them. Just look at Danzo.

Yeah Danzo could not control the DNA all that well, but others have. Obito, Madara, Oro...

[Luka]

Yes but Danzo shows that it does need to be controlled that that doing so takes a significant effort to do. You can't just get an injection of super chakra with no drawbacks.