Bec and I have been messaging one another, with his permission I am posting that here. and we can continue to talk about this all together.
So clan =/= KG?
I finished writing up a basic robot thing...As for the levels, they're still a WIP as for what each level will buff and do since we're still working on a buff system. I think what we can do is set up bloodline limits as something you set at character creation while clans (hiden) are things you can eventually gain.
Like if we did it that way for Uchiha, it could be like reborns.
Level 1 One-Tamoe
Level 2 Two-Tamoe
Level 3 Three-Tamoe
Level 4 Mangekyo
Level 5 Eternal Mangekyo
Then we determine what perks you get with each level. Of course, we'll have to be creative for all the clans so that they're still somewhat balanced. And if you don't want to have a bloodline limit or are willing to write up a custom one, then that would be do-able too. And maybe we can make it a max of two with one being chosen at character-creation while the other only being choose able after you max out one. And maybe the second could only be leveled up to 3? Mind you, if you think the ideas I'm saying aren't doo-doo, you can share them with everyone
I agree with a lot of this. I think it is important for Becquerel to fiddle with this stuff right from the start because he is a Robot. His character needs special work just to be created.
for everyone else I think it would be useful to do a practice RP to become familiar with how these die rolls...as is...will work and effect you in a combat situation...before we go talking about buffs and things across the board for everyone. I think we need to use the system before we try to modify the system. Let's just try it out and see how it works.the Clan/KG sections...
Some clans have KG. Others just have Hiden. So clan =/= always equal KG. I think that, for instance, the Nara should be able to be just as great a clan as the Uchiha...with respect to the die rolls they get. to the level of dots that would be put into it to both max out at 5 dots.
Each clan could then be described what the dot levels mean, as becquerel has laid out for the Uchiha. And each dot level could eventually have listed special jutsu where applicable.
Bloodlines I believe would have to be purchased at character creation. You are born like that. Clans however...I think you could learn certain things. the Nara techs can be taught. So if you wished to take a Clan later I think that would be fine.
Max two...between KG/Clan.
I think I just realized something...When we are talking about bonuses and penalties, we mean an additional die to roll or one taken away from your pool to either buff or decrease your chances of success.
Pretend I am being searched for. The seaches uses Wits + Composure = xd10.
On my part to defend someone searching for me, I have to do a stealth check. This is Dex [3] + stealth [2] = 5d10. Cause of my scores.
However, if I use my KG to hide. Hizashi [4] I do not get +4 die. That just is my rank as a Hizashi. I get Rank 4 jutsu in Hizashi. my deflecting light to make me look like I am some place else jutsu, is a Rank 1 Hizashi jutsu. It give me a +1 to defense against search checks.
So I would get Dex [3] + stealth [2] + Hizashi bending light [1] = 6d10
not Dex [3] + stealth [2] + Hizashi [4] = 9d10
so the dots in clan/KG indicate your rank jutsu you can use. or in the case of doujutsu the evolution of your eye. You still need to take your rolls from the individual jutsu that will have to be created to see what buffs you get.
the specific jutsu would tell you the number of die bonus to use for that check.
each clan/KG jutsu may only apply in certain situations. this bending light thing would not effect a sensor checking for me based on my chakra signature. So it adds no defense or die to the roll.
Again I would advise against adding bonuses to attributes because that is a constant effect. We really are going to be strong enough without having a permanent effect in play there.