Not sure if this should be here or the bijuu board. It's only about Tenseigan and if it is fair but it's related to the Tenseigan Rusaku wants to use in my Bijuu defense against him. So move the topic if need be.
This is what Rusaku wants to use
Tenseigan:
All 5 nature transformations
Tenseigan Chakra armor
Deva path
All previously mentioned jutsu on a much smaller scale, and without truth seeking balls.
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,8444.msg221038.html
Now that sounded fine to me I just asked him to explain the capabilities of the Tenseigan chakra mode to make sure he wasn't hiding anything there.
He proceeds to tell me that it is as strong as Senjutsu enhanced Kyuubi Chakra Mode, which is a x6 multiplier, plus those other abilities that are listed.
My response to that was having an ability that is literally just Sage Mode, twice as strong, and with other added abilities doesn't seem fair at all. You can enhance yourself and your jutsu with the Tenseigan shroud so the only trade off is you lose Frog Kata and Natural Energy Sensing, which doesn't matter since no Sage Mode user can hit you with their kata taijutsu if you're three times faster than them.
His response was that it is fair for reasons regarding the source material that I don't understand and he refuses to explain because, "I don't have to explain my abilities weaknesses to you." Which seems an awfully convenient thing to be able to say to anyone saying your abilities are god mod.
Considering the quality of judge decisions I've been getting lately and since we don't have a judge yet I wanted to get a community decision on it. Hopefully Rusaku will reveal his secret reason why his ability is fair and all will become clear but until then I want to get a group call on it.
I mean when I briefly fought Rus and he used it, it didn't seem too unfair.
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,8491.0.htmlSo I think if he used it similar to that, it shouldn't be an issue. Although I understand wanting everything clearly laid out.
If I had to say, I would say Tenseigan = Sage Mode = Rinnegan. Tenseigan in it's current nerfed format should be equal to the two other great powers.
So in my ideal world I would say Tenseigan would be this:
All 5 natures
Deva path stuff
few unique jutsu, like 3 I think the wiki list?
and the armor.
I would say the Rinnegan grants the user really specific techniques, Sage Mode grants all your jutsu boosts, and Tenseigan grants a body mode. So like a Sage Mode user and Tenseigan user both used fire release: fireball ninjutsu, the sage mode users would win out. But like in a fist fight, or tanking damage, Tensiegan would win out.
I also wish people would stop using multiplies, it's just getting silly and arbitrary and is causing issues. Either a tech is better, worse, or equal to something. No need to quantify everything and create issues. Like stacking stuff and inserting random number multipler.
So the real question is how strong should the armor be? I personally ban custom biju mode cloaks, as I believe only the 9 tails Jinch should get that. But because I'm that elisted about it, I don't think someone with Tenseigan should just have access to a power only one person has just cause they claimed a tech.
So to me Tenseigan mode > Lightning Armor, but under 9-tails chakra mode, maybe under Kurama Mode max
I mean I know the cannon puts it on par with like Kurama mode or hold it's own to Six Paths Sage Mode, but that shouldn't be allowed.
Just my two cents anyway.