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Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« on: March 10, 2017, 06:34:09 AM »

I'm a major fan of barrier techniques thus I found it disheartening there was such an easy way to destroy them without seeming any setback regardless of what it was.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Barrier_Shattering_Technique

So I ask the community, should this technique be nerfed, banned? Will I just have to accept the fact the canon has given me quite the unfavorable counter?

Give me your thoughts on the matter, please. Since I'm clearly biased against such a jutsu I am by no means the right individual or group of people to judge such.

Thank you all for your time and energy.

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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2017, 06:39:12 AM »

I don't think there's anything wrong with the technique. :o Sometimes you need it because of all the barriers that people have these days.
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2017, 06:41:49 AM »

The technique is about 7 years old. In all those years, I haven't seen anything relating to banning it. (And after using the search function, that statement stands)

You, as said, are clearly biased. There's no reason to ban it. Barriers need a counter to them.
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2017, 06:43:09 AM »

Eh, go figure. Ya win some, ya lose some *shrugs* Appreciate the input.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2017, 06:45:08 AM by Timothy »
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2017, 07:04:30 AM »

If I still give a crap about zoning, I'd be like "anime only lol void".
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2017, 07:34:15 AM »

If I still give a crap about zoning, I'd be like "anime only lol void".

Well that would mean that 90% of Uzumaki techniques would be voided in the process, lol.
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2017, 07:40:22 AM »

If I still give a crap about zoning, I'd be like "anime only lol void".

Well that would mean that 90% of Uzumaki techniques would be voided in the process, lol.

I'll have you know all OP Uzumaki techs is based on a single monologue from the Kushina. Don't act like I don't know...I know.
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2017, 07:54:53 AM »

I always thought the Barrier Shattering Technique needed to hit the perimeter of the barrier to shatter them. So, if a Barrier was huge, it would take a while for the technique to shatter the barrier. Though, I don't remember when the last time was that I looked at the technique.
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2017, 01:44:46 PM »

It is necessary, especially against ethereal technqiues. However, how does it work in SL? I dont see it used often.
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2017, 02:21:27 PM »

I don't think I've seen anyone but Bocch use the jutsu correctly and that was like 5 years ago or whenever he attacked Konoha. First of all it's a Cooperation Jutsu that you need multiple people to perform. Second it works by locating the barrier's source and then shattering it. If you watch the episode it's in they do the chakra combination and then, while looking at the barrier, the lead guy sees a little twinkle from inside it, says break, and you see a little totem that was apparently powering the barrier break and the barrier goes down. So it wouldn't work on a barrier that you just make by forming some kata and then raising a barrier, like Uchiha Flame Formation for instance because there is nothing for the jutsu to shatter. It's called Barrier Shatter but it doesn't literally shatter the barrier it shatters whatever is powering it. Obviously you can't just claim to blow someone up by using it.

The second one man usage of it is from the Mitsuki one shot and he just walks up to a barrier wall and touches it which dissolves a sizable hole in it. I don't remember if it breaks the whole thing or not. I don't know why they decided that was the same jutsu or if that decision was correct, there is no talk on the jutsu page so I couldn't tell you what the logic was.
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2017, 03:55:39 PM »

I don't think I've seen anyone but Bocch use the jutsu correctly and that was like 5 years ago or whenever he attacked Konoha. First of all it's a Cooperation Jutsu that you need multiple people to perform. Second it works by locating the barrier's source and then shattering it. If you watch the episode it's in they do the chakra combination and then, while looking at the barrier, the lead guy sees a little twinkle from inside it, says break, and you see a little totem that was apparently powering the barrier break and the barrier goes down. So it wouldn't work on a barrier that you just make by forming some kata and then raising a barrier, like Uchiha Flame Formation for instance because there is nothing for the jutsu to shatter. It's called Barrier Shatter but it doesn't literally shatter the barrier it shatters whatever is powering it. Obviously you can't just claim to blow someone up by using it.

The second one man usage of it is from the Mitsuki one shot and he just walks up to a barrier wall and touches it which dissolves a sizable hole in it. I don't remember if it breaks the whole thing or not. I don't know why they decided that was the same jutsu or if that decision was correct, there is no talk on the jutsu page so I couldn't tell you what the logic was.

By that logic it would disrupt the chakra flow of the source, similar to casting a long range genjutsu on someone. For a barrier maintained by a scroll, disrupting the chakra flow would cause the technique to break while for a person it would disrupt the chakra or something to that extent.
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2017, 04:00:25 PM »

I don't think I've seen anyone but Bocch use the jutsu correctly and that was like 5 years ago or whenever he attacked Konoha. First of all it's a Cooperation Jutsu that you need multiple people to perform. Second it works by locating the barrier's source and then shattering it. If you watch the episode it's in they do the chakra combination and then, while looking at the barrier, the lead guy sees a little twinkle from inside it, says break, and you see a little totem that was apparently powering the barrier break and the barrier goes down. So it wouldn't work on a barrier that you just make by forming some kata and then raising a barrier, like Uchiha Flame Formation for instance because there is nothing for the jutsu to shatter. It's called Barrier Shatter but it doesn't literally shatter the barrier it shatters whatever is powering it. Obviously you can't just claim to blow someone up by using it.

The second one man usage of it is from the Mitsuki one shot and he just walks up to a barrier wall and touches it which dissolves a sizable hole in it. I don't remember if it breaks the whole thing or not. I don't know why they decided that was the same jutsu or if that decision was correct, there is no talk on the jutsu page so I couldn't tell you what the logic was.

By that logic it would disrupt the chakra flow of the source, similar to casting a long range genjutsu on someone. For a barrier maintained by a scroll, disrupting the chakra flow would cause the technique to break while for a person it would disrupt the chakra or something to that extent.

Except even that is basically an auto-hit. Can I resist it, how do you disrupt my chakra just by looking at me enough to drop my barrier?

The technique is never actually used in a fight and it should stay that way.
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2017, 05:19:34 PM »


Except even that is basically an auto-hit. Can I resist it, how do you disrupt my chakra just by looking at me enough to drop my barrier?

The technique is never actually used in a fight and it should stay that way.

Well, where is the line between autohit and not autohit in that case? A barrier that is erected suddenly that encompasses a wide area and negates certain chakras is less of an autohit than a standard genjutsu? A one hit seal that cannot be resisted is less autohit than a surprise long range kamui center body?

A barrier shatter technique requires a set amount of chakra for a static barrier, so I am of the mind that a person would have to exert chakra to counter it, should they be aware of the shatter attempt.
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2017, 07:08:19 PM »


Except even that is basically an auto-hit. Can I resist it, how do you disrupt my chakra just by looking at me enough to drop my barrier?

The technique is never actually used in a fight and it should stay that way.

Well, where is the line between autohit and not autohit in that case? A barrier that is erected suddenly that encompasses a wide area and negates certain chakras is less of an autohit than a standard genjutsu? A one hit seal that cannot be resisted is less autohit than a surprise long range kamui center body?

A barrier shatter technique requires a set amount of chakra for a static barrier, so I am of the mind that a person would have to exert chakra to counter it, should they be aware of the shatter attempt.

Or we could just not expand its abilities into things it's never been shown able to do.
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Re: Barrier Shattering Technique - Should it be nerfed/banned?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2017, 07:32:51 PM »

If you're adamant about this technique, then I don't see the point in having barriers. Because if I am not allowed to defend myself against a barrier like Athos's Deadzone Creation then we might as well ban every Fuinjutsu that is anime-only, because it isn't canon; the same applies to custom fuinjutsus.
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