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Game Development => Feature Requests => Topic started by: tehbeastjeffsays on August 29, 2006, 11:33:49 PM

Title: mount tuning
Post by: tehbeastjeffsays on August 29, 2006, 11:33:49 PM
The way I see it, the mount's stats need to be changed. How can pakkun be better than neko and shakuku? I think they need to be changed.  :evil:
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: ninjafromdasouth on August 30, 2006, 12:02:52 AM
Pakkun has Smarts
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: tehbeastjeffsays on August 30, 2006, 12:06:31 AM
In reality he would get crushed by shukaku and neko, or enma. The mounts need to be changed. And I know that someone will be like but everyones gonna be mad, well why not refund what they paid and then let them get a new mount?
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: ninjafromdasouth on August 30, 2006, 12:08:09 AM
In reaility there wouldn't be Neko or those other mounts
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: tehbeastjeffsays on August 30, 2006, 12:10:12 AM
I meant in the naruto world. You take things to literally.
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: ninjafromdasouth on August 30, 2006, 12:14:15 AM
No cuss the Neko is captured,and Gaara wouldn't go to sleep.
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: tehbeastjeffsays on August 30, 2006, 12:18:46 AM
 :evil:you just dont get it do you? lets use another example then. Mando or gamabunta would destroy pakkun. :evil:
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: ninjafromdasouth on August 30, 2006, 12:20:52 AM
I would like It if Gamabunata was more powerful,cuss it seems noone has him
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: tehbeastjeffsays on August 30, 2006, 12:27:14 AM
Thats because he sucks, thats why I think the mount's stats need to be changed.
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Neji on August 30, 2006, 12:39:54 AM
^^ I said, a month ago, that I will change the entire mount system.

completely. refund all and remove all mounts.

then.... I'll do the mount thing more like it should be: normally on kuchiyose base... e.g. you summon them and they help you until either defeated (0 hp) or certain rounds are over.

a replace for "mounts" will be "team mates" or "other shinobi".

=) I know the current system is not that balanced, but I won't change it now, think about it, then change again in 1-2 months...
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: tehbeastjeffsays on August 30, 2006, 12:43:28 AM
Sorry I didnt use the forums until a couple of weeks ago. 1-2 months, thats good, I'm glad the system is changing but I would still prefer mounts rather than team mates.
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: ninjafromdasouth on August 30, 2006, 01:08:41 AM
I like the system.its real good,Cuss i mostly click untill end or thrillseek till end
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: HatakeSakumo on August 30, 2006, 02:35:53 AM
I like the current system alot as well....

the only true complaint would be the power of the mounts..

Current system =  :D

New system =   :?:
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Camel on August 30, 2006, 08:34:18 AM
I question how this new mount system will be  :-? I mean I like my Pakkun...just the way he is.
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Neji on August 30, 2006, 08:54:36 AM
Well, think of this:

currently: mount.

later on: kuchiyose (mount) + teammate.

they will equal both in power roundabout  what you have now.
YET... you need to work for kuchiyose as you need an animal contract... and that won't be certainly as hard as a curse seal, but you have to work for it. More I have not worked out.

Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Camel on August 30, 2006, 09:01:52 AM
now that you explain it neji it seems quite intresting this new system  :)
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: tehbeastjeffsays on August 30, 2006, 04:03:22 PM
That also interests me, I cant wait for the new system!  :D
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on August 30, 2006, 06:00:14 PM
Well, think of this:

currently: mount.

later on: kuchiyose (mount) + teammate.

they will equal both in power roundabout  what you have now.
YET... you need to work for kuchiyose as you need an animal contract... and that won't be certainly as hard as a curse seal, but you have to work for it. More I have not worked out.



I hope you don't need to work and pay gems and gold for it.
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Neji on August 30, 2006, 06:01:31 PM
 :D you all wanted training, didn't you?
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Baluski on August 30, 2006, 06:03:46 PM
Well, think of this:

currently: mount.

later on: kuchiyose (mount) + teammate.

they will equal both in power roundabout  what you have now.
YET... you need to work for kuchiyose as you need an animal contract... and that won't be certainly as hard as a curse seal, but you have to work for it. More I have not worked out.



I hope you don't need to work and pay gems and gold for it.

I hope so.  ;)
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on August 30, 2006, 06:06:28 PM
:D you all wanted training, didn't you?

What training? We were just asking you to make the expansive mounts stronger >.>
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Baluski on August 30, 2006, 06:16:28 PM
:D you all wanted training, didn't you?

What training? We were just asking you to make the expansive mounts stronger >.>

And to reiterate what Neji just said, there's no point in reworking the mounts at this point in time when the current mount system is going to be done with and replaced with another. And if you think about it, your mount can be upto 3 times stronger then your actual character. The mounts are fine as is, you get what you pay for.  ;)
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: dude no.1 on August 30, 2006, 06:26:46 PM
:D you all wanted training, didn't you?

What training? We were just asking you to make the expansive mounts stronger >.>
you know that thread where some of you guys wanted a place to spend your turns fast.....
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: HatakeSakumo on August 30, 2006, 06:52:06 PM
Hmm this sounds intriguing...So it's possible to meet Mando in the forest and sign a contract with the snakes eh??

Remember this Neji...In the Naruto series...You sign a contract to the ENTIRE SPECIES...NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL MOUNT...

Meaning if I meet Gamabunta and sign a contract...I technically should be able to summon Gamatatsu, Gamakichi, Gama, and Gamabunta...One at a time of course but that's how it works in the manga/anime..  :)

But stil..if you make it where it's an individual contract...That would still be awesome...

but on the other hand....My luck with the curse seal is the worst possible kind...so my luck with this event will probably be the same   :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Neji on August 30, 2006, 06:59:40 PM
Hmm this sounds intriguing...So it's possible to meet Mando in the forest and sign a contract with the snakes eh??

Remember this Neji...In the Naruto series...You sign a contract to the ENTIRE SPECIES...NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL MOUNT...

Meaning if I meet Gamabunta and sign a contract...I technically should be able to summon Gamatatsu, Gamakichi, Gama, and Gamabunta...One at a time of course but that's how it works in the manga/anime..  :)

But stil..if you make it where it's an individual contract...That would still be awesome...

but on the other hand....My luck with the curse seal is the worst possible kind...so my luck with this event will probably be the same   :cry: :cry: :cry:

No, you're absolutely right.
You do contracts with a species.

Yet, you can't (Naruto was a coincidence) summon the biggest of that species from the start.

examples:
what would you like?
a) within one orokill: get gamakichi at level  1-4, gamabushi level 5-9, gamabunta level 10+
OR
b) train for gamakichi a certain time, then you have him (regardless of level or oro kills), train for ... etc... and at the end there is gamabunta.

I think you want B, right? =)
That would fit the current mount system.

Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: HatakeSakumo on August 30, 2006, 07:07:59 PM
Hmm this sounds intriguing...So it's possible to meet Mando in the forest and sign a contract with the snakes eh??

Remember this Neji...In the Naruto series...You sign a contract to the ENTIRE SPECIES...NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL MOUNT...

Meaning if I meet Gamabunta and sign a contract...I technically should be able to summon Gamatatsu, Gamakichi, Gama, and Gamabunta...One at a time of course but that's how it works in the manga/anime..  :)

But stil..if you make it where it's an individual contract...That would still be awesome...

but on the other hand....My luck with the curse seal is the worst possible kind...so my luck with this event will probably be the same   :cry: :cry: :cry:

No, you're absolutely right.
You do contracts with a species.

Yet, you can't (Naruto was a coincidence) summon the biggest of that species from the start.

examples:
what would you like?
a) within one orokill: get gamakichi at level  1-4, gamabushi level 5-9, gamabunta level 10+
OR
b) train for gamakichi a certain time, then you have him (regardless of level or oro kills), train for ... etc... and at the end there is gamabunta.

I think you want B, right? =)
That would fit the current mount system.



An example of B would be:

A Genin would be able to summon Gamatatsu
Chuunins get strong enough for Gamakichi
Jounins get Gama
and then Hunter Nins and up get Gamabunta...

Right?

If that's the way you're thinking of having it...then that seems fine by me.. :D

However...only species in which there are more than 2 mounts are the canine and toad species..

Mando is alone as is Katsuya..Enma, and Kyoudaigumo as well...

and what about the Bijuus?..Kyuubi, Shukaku, and Neko? how would they work in?

Anyway B works good if it's like the example.. :)

I wouldn't want A at all...

an Anbu summoning Gamatatsu?...No thanks  :P
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: tehbeastjeffsays on August 30, 2006, 07:58:12 PM
making contracts huh? that sounds like a good idea, except that if it was random and players like me who have a hard time at getting random events would never get a mount.
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Demonic Sanoci on August 30, 2006, 08:01:51 PM
Shouldn't we include Sanbi ("Three Tails") in this game , because this Biju made an appearence , but its not as powerful. Tell me yourself if this should count as a mount.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biju
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: tehbeastjeffsays on August 30, 2006, 08:08:10 PM
sanbi should be the weakest of the biju then.
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Demonic Sanoci on August 30, 2006, 08:10:29 PM
Umm wouldn't say that , because havn't gotten info on the other Biju yet. Please remember even as a wild Biju kick the other Mounts easily , but Neko , Shukaku , and  Kyubi.
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Neji on August 30, 2006, 08:19:19 PM
@Sakumo

no, you would have to train for it, not get it automatically, but about that time about yes, I think hunter nin is OK for the best one.

the "mounts" like akamaru will be handled differently... they are like kekkei genkai... you are born with in a way... or in a clan (Inuzuka) ...also kyuubi+shukaku are very special. I have no absolute concept yet.
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: crimsonneji on December 10, 2006, 08:53:59 AM
I am going to enjoy seeing what you have planned Neji.

 :twisted:I hope i can bring terror to the creatures in the forest.  :smt068
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: kboogi on December 10, 2006, 10:12:17 PM
Please do not revive old topics for no reason.
Title: Re: mount tuning
Post by: Lebis on December 10, 2006, 10:13:37 PM
Please do not spam and sink just as low as the person reviving the topic and just lock it. ;.)