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All That Is Bijuu / Re: 孫悟空, Son Gokū The 4-Tailed Monkey (四尾, Yonbi) Challenge/Preferences Thread

« on: August 23, 2021, 12:28:47 PM »

Was a misunderstanding, he didn't know "Miyuu" has been long since perma banned and monke changed hands, and he doesn't care to fight me so no challenge made.

Furthermore since you still seem to go around here sometimes, it was also recently discussed and agreed upon on Discord, that keeping this whole forum and "council" shtick going is basically pointless; people can self-govern this stuff well enough and mods can simply intervene when if ever issues arise. Communication is easily done over discord too, even if one person cant reach someone then another one might. And if even then there's no response and no knowledge of ongoing RL issues, there's no way in hell there'd ever be contact over here either.

So yeh.

Well I am a forum moderator, so of course I"m going to come back here every now and again, even if the forum isn't used all that much. Combined with the fact that new people can't even register on the forum, the Council has been inactive, etc., I"m not surprised that an alternative system has developed to fit the needs of current players.

It is good to be made aware of this though. Thanks Warren.

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Discussions / Re: Making the Forum allow new accounts?

« on: August 20, 2021, 02:57:20 PM »

I've been told the forum no longer allows new users and was wondering why/if it would be possible to allow such things again if possible.

Is this still an issue? I don't have an answer or anything for it, but I'm kinda curious if this was ever resolved.

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All That Is Bijuu / Re: 孫悟空, Son Gokū The 4-Tailed Monkey (四尾, Yonbi) Challenge/Preferences Thread

« on: August 20, 2021, 02:56:09 PM »

Can I dibs this or what

It's been 6 days, has there been any communication about setting up a fight or is what is visible here the extent of communication?

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Council / Candidates for Biju Council

« on: June 12, 2021, 05:28:22 PM »

Hi all,

As was suggested here: https://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,9526.msg237490.html#msg237490, we need to establish a new cohort with more active members. I believe the first step is that we will need to determine how many people are active and willing to become Council members. If push comes to shove, we may need to once again hash out a contigency given the Council seats might not be entirely filled.

Last go around Kamui suggested that we advertise on the SL website; to that end, we can direct advertising to this thread here.

Link to Council responsibilities: https://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,9118.msg232145.html#msg232145 Scroll down to section regarding the Biju Council.

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Council / Re: Placement of Shukaku (Council Vote thread)

« on: June 12, 2021, 05:21:03 PM »

I concur with the second option to have them fight it out still.

To clarify, your vote is for option 1, which is for them to fight it out still?

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All That Is Bijuu / Re: It'sa me, again! Stripping the One Tail :3

« on: May 26, 2021, 01:52:48 PM »

Apologies for the double post.

I had hoped that the vote thread would have lead to a formal resolution, but apparently not:

https://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,9528.0.html

Out of the current Council members, only 2 of us (Dart and I) posted a vote. Among those who have discussed something in this thread... Checking the list of the 3rd Cohort, I suppose that would only be us 2 yet again.

This is problematic, although I have kind of been on the fence about this topic. On one hand, letting the two of them fight it out is an ideal situation, but if both or one of them goes inactive during that time, then we're kind of back to square one. It buys time to figure out the Council situation, but I'm not sure there's enough interest to keep the biju shifting hands much less fill the Council.

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Council / Re: Placement of Shukaku (Council Vote thread)

« on: May 20, 2021, 09:25:00 AM »

I vote option 2.

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Rules/Foundation / Blanket Suspension of Activity Clause?

« on: May 09, 2021, 11:09:52 AM »

Following up on this:

... Given the extenuating circumstances of this pandemic and how the freezes were made to the Claimed List, I think the activity clause could be temporarily suspended as we don't know how our other players are handling everything and/or getting sick...

What is everyone's thought on this? Note that this would only affect challengers/hosts, not the Council, as formally there is no activity clause for the Council.

I personally see no pro to this, as the activity clause is functionally the only way beasts get moved out of inactive hands, and I would much rather we maintain a state of "you need to let people know if something's going on" then an unstated covid so don't bother.

We are overdue for a few things related to biju, new Council elections chief among them, but i think overall interest/investment in formal Biju related stuff is more to blame than COVID.

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Council / Placement of Shukaku (Council Vote thread)

« on: May 09, 2021, 11:00:30 AM »

A brief review of the situation at hand:

This thread is a biju council vote thread for the placement of Shukaku, the one tailed beast, which would have automatically been stripped from Kamui per the activity clause of the biju rules and granted to the latest challenger Hazama. Hazama, however, never posted a preferences post to the challenge thread and went inactive during the time period in which he would have had the beast (himself violating the 14-day activity clause), therefore he too has broken the biju rules at this point. At the time of this post there was no new challenger for the beast, so it can't just automatically go there either.

See the following thread for more of the discussion: https://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,9526.0.html

Current Biju Council members/subs ONLY should be posting here: https://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,9121.msg232662.html#msg232662

Council members, post your vote at a minimum. If you choose, you may give a brief explanation of your vote as well. Simple majority rules, the timeframe is 14 days for voting (which is twice the usual voting precedent for rule updates), ending April May 23, 2021.


1) The beast could be still fought over by both contestants. Solely for the purposes of the fight and rule application in said fight, Kamui would still be considered "host" and Hazama would be considered "challenger".

2) If there is not a fight to be had between these 2, then the Council needs to have a separate discussion on what to do with the beast.

*Didn't notice my typo, at the time of making the post April had already been gone for a week+. Updated to proper month of May*


** So here we are on 26MAY2021 and only 2 of the current Council members, myself and Dart, have  at this point given a vote (opposing ones at that). **

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All That Is Bijuu / Re: It'sa me, again! Stripping the One Tail :3

« on: May 09, 2021, 10:06:37 AM »

So, the Hazama account does exist, the SL name provided by Jay, and there was still no public RP post from Kamui during the timeframe of the original discussion. Kamui still violated the 14-day activity clause, which would not be ignored just because the challenge had not been a week old. Extenuating circumstances. pandemic or not, would have required some sort of notification:

Extenuating circumstances during the 'idle phase' of a host: Most events occur so as to permit making a post at some time during your 14 days to alert the community that 'something' is going on. Your leave of absence notice will reset the clock to a 14 day absence max. Should you need more time than that...which adds up to possibly a whole month if your notice occurs on day 14...then you will step down as a host and try again later when your life will permit participation again. You will not be banned from challenging someone for another bijuu. But the SL community will be permitted to move on. The council will handle requests for concessions on a case by case basis and their decision will be binding.

Even when coming to defend himself here on the forum, he did not mention any RL circumstances that prevented him from posting. Sure, private info he didn't need to go into detail about, but I don't see even an allusion to such. I am of the mind that Kamui should still be stripped of the beast for his previous inactivity.

In the rules there are exceptions to be made on a case-by-case basis for this sort of thing, as determined by the Council, but a blanket suspension of the inactivity clause when the inciting event (the pandemic) has no clear end on a global scale does not seem like a good idea to me. But blanket suspension of the activity clause is, essentially, a rule vote/discussion, and a separate discussion thread can be made about that.

In the meantime, to facilitate resolution on this matter, I'll go ahead and create a formal Council vote thread regarding what to do with the beast.

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All That Is Bijuu / Re: It'sa me, again! Stripping the One Tail :3

« on: March 18, 2021, 03:51:58 AM »

First off, Eric. What's the point of issuing a challenge and not giving the challenger a chance to respond within the given time frame? I should be allowed at least a week to respond, before anything is even done due to the rules stating that we need a week to start the fight or otherwise, the said beast goes to the challenger. I would ask for a council meeting to add this specific clause to the rules, but we don't even a full council to even call a vote. So why bother at this point in time lol?

The rules state that breaking the activity clause constitutes a stripping. Since the Council historically (and especially now) did not tend to actively hunt for rule breakers, the individuals who made strip threads tended to have a vested interest in where the beast went, IE, were usually the challengers. Naturally, when stripped, the Council often awarded the beast to whoever was the last challenger; therefore, it would make sense to make a challenge and then bring up the activity situation as an issue afterwards as, based on history, this would increase the chance of being awarded the tailed beast (in a timely fashion).

As far as I am aware, the "week to setup a match" does not supersede the RP activity clause. The 14 day activity clause is only modified during an "active" match, which is after the match has been setup and formally started:

Hosts must make a RP post in public once every 14 days while not engaged in an active challenge.

Extenuating circumstances during an active match: Here the activity clause is 7 days, in order to keep the fight moving along to a conclusion...

Also, why issue a challenge and not even have that said character exist on the server? Rules state that the both the host and challenger must have an active account on forums and the server where we RP on. No character was specified and I assume that it was his character, Hazama, whom happens to not even exist on Shinobi Legends. Believe me, I checked and found no trace of any activity from the challenger. You can even check for yourself and you'll see why I am bit...confused about why you're stripping my character without even checking to see if the challenger was even existed on Shinobi Legends.

I concede that it was a short-sighted not to check on that when I did go through the trouble of checking the Uchiha Kamui account activity, but technically the rules don't state that you have to have a SL account in order to make a challenge. It states only that a forum account is needed:

A host must have/create an SL forum account.

Challengers will also have/create an SL forum account.

I *indeed just looked for myself and couldn't find a "Hazama" in the ninja list; without a SL account the only other way to meet the activity clause is to RP here on the forums, which while meeting the letter of the rule as the forum is a public place, doesn't really fit the spirit of it  since most people (even when I was still actively RPing) didn't RP here on the forum.

I am glad there is some discussion on this; before calling a public vote, are the other Biju Council members somewhat active? If not what's left of the biju Council can call for a vote to decide (in the absence of the full representation that would be expected) the fate of Shukaku.


*Editted for clarity

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All That Is Bijuu / Re: It'sa me, again! Stripping the One Tail :3

« on: March 17, 2021, 03:39:10 AM »

Excuse me, but doesn't Kamui still fall under the 1 week to respond rule? It's only been five.

If the issue were only him not responding to the challenger, then yeah, it would be a bit soon. However, the reason for the stripping proposal is because he hadn't made a public RP post in 14 days (evidenced by no RP post here on forum and his SL account not being logged into for quite a few days), which constitutes stripping:

Hosts must make a RP post in public once every 14 days while not engaged in an active challenge. Hosts who fail to do this will have their bijuu stripped by the council.

Breaking the activity clause constitutes stripping. You may participate again once your life permits the time commitment SL requires of their hosts. No ban is issued and when to try again is up to the participant.

I already responded back to your post and accepted your challenge, but if you want to go to route of trying to strip my character of the said beast. As Koji stated, I still had time left until the time limit for the challenge issued is up and a stripping process can only proceed after a week is up. 

The week time limit is for active challenges; your SL account went unlogged into for awhile before the challenge was issued.

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All That Is Bijuu / Re: It'sa me, again! Stripping the One Tail :3

« on: March 14, 2021, 11:50:15 AM »

Well, the last challenger in Kamui's thread, from 3 years ago mind you, was Uchiha Madara. While i"m not sure how that fight/challenge was resolved (I presume Madara lost since there was no change in owner of this biju?), as of this morning Madara's SL account has been inactive for 21 days.

Even if he were active though, assuming everything on the forum is up to date, he already has 3 beasts: the 5 tails, the 6 tails, and the Gedo Mazou (it has a challenge thread, so it counts as a beast towards the 3 beast limit).

That said, I have no opposition to Hazama taking the beast and will go ahead and make the change. Don't forget to post up your preferences in the appropriate thread. If for some reason this is an issue, this thread can be used as a discussion for that.


*Correction, I"ll update the list once you post the preference list. That away things like "affiliation" will already be set and won't have to be re-updated if I get the wrong one

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Spam / Re: Forum Activity for the sake of activity. Covid 19

« on: July 01, 2020, 06:34:52 AM »

As an essential employee, my routine didn't change much. I didn't get out much anyways, so the theater and bar closures weren't too much of a downer. Legit, the worst thing about it is that it increased my hesitance to travel and visit family with my time off.

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Bijuu Arena / Re: Current In-game Jinchūriki and Summoners

« on: May 22, 2020, 04:31:44 AM »

Wow it's been a long time, updated!