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Roleplay => Village Square => Topic started by: Ѕhadow on September 18, 2015, 03:43:14 AM
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So yada yada everyone has 34 kg yada infinite chakra yada 34355 jutsu yada yada yada invincible.
Time to limit this? My guideline that I posted years ago puts down being OP a bit, but in this form it will limit how much chakra people can use and so on. It's not really a solidified idea, but I want it to be something like this.
Academy Student - 3 chakra
Jounin - 14 chakra
Kage - 25 chakra
And then we put a chakra use on each jutsu.
Kamui takes 6 chakra so a jounin could only use it twice in that battle. And if CS or something is used it gives you 9 chakra. Certain kg and such will give more chakra. And so on. No more 12032 bijuu bombs and still a full tank of chakra.
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Just stop being Madara.
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Just stop being Madara.
If only people would follow that.
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Just stop being Madara.
If only people would follow that.
You think they'd follow your chakra system over that? Please, we can barely follow whether or not we want something IC or OOC.
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Just stop being Madara.
If only people would follow that.
You think they'd follow your chakra system over that? Please, we can barely follow whether or not we want something IC or OOC.
I'd settle for even a few people following it.
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Just stop being Madara.
If only people would follow that.
You think they'd follow your chakra system over that? Please, we can barely follow whether or not we want something IC or OOC.
I'd settle for even a few people following it.
Then you'd get nowhere if one person did and was out of chakra legitimately and the other was running on Energizer batteries.
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Normal people regulating their chakra is typically far less of a problem than edo tensei folk with their "unlimited" pool in all honesty.
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Just stop being Madara.
If only people would follow that.
You think they'd follow your chakra system over that? Please, we can barely follow whether or not we want something IC or OOC.
I'd settle for even a few people following it.
Then you'd get nowhere if one person did and was out of chakra legitimately and the other was running on Energizer batteries.
I change my character based on who I"m fighting. It would apply the same way here.
Shadow has 16 resets, but I made a guideline years ago to make it where you can only have 2. If the other person is willing to nerf themselves to my guideline then I do the same.
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I'm sorry, but no one is going to follow this, or any variation of this. Would it make keeping track of chakra easier? Sure it would. Though what of tailed beasts? What of Uzumaki having more chakra than say a Senju? What of Jiongu? There are too many variables to take into account, and honestly the last thing we need is a new set of rules. Even today I am finding out new rules for techniques that I never even knew about, so to add to the pile of rules won't do anything good.
Take into account the people who gives Zero fucks about the forum, which is a massive number when compared to the people who actually use it. What of them? They won't see this post any time soon, so when you jump into an RP with them and start dictating how much chakra they have and how each technique costs this amount, you are just going to be ignored.
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Normal people regulating their chakra is typically far less of a problem than edo tensei folk with their "unlimited" pool in all honesty.
Usually because normal people tend to abide by normal standards. I've seen these "normal" people and they're not as power-hungry/abusive as the latter.
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I'm sorry, but no one is going to follow this, or any variation of this. Would it make keeping track of chakra easier? Sure it would. Though what of tailed beasts? What of Uzumaki having more chakra than say a Senju? What of Jiongu? There are too many variables to take into account, and honestly the last thing we need is a new set of rules. Even today I am finding out new rules for techniques that I never even knew about, so to add to the pile of rules won't do anything good.
Take into account the people who gives Zero fucks about the forum, which is a massive number when compared to the people who actually use it. What of them? They won't see this post any time soon, so when you jump into an RP with them and start dictating how much chakra they have and how each technique costs this amount, you are just going to be ignored.
Like I said. This happened with my guideline. Some people followed it and a shit ton didn't. But if I were to fight Trev then he would nerf his character to 2 kg like I would.
I'm not intending this to be the rules. But if like 5 people joined in and agreed to it then I'm fine with that. 5 less people I have to argue with them about having infinite chakra.
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I'm sorry, but no one is going to follow this, or any variation of this. Would it make keeping track of chakra easier? Sure it would. Though what of tailed beasts? What of Uzumaki having more chakra than say a Senju? What of Jiongu? There are too many variables to take into account, and honestly the last thing we need is a new set of rules. Even today I am finding out new rules for techniques that I never even knew about, so to add to the pile of rules won't do anything good.
Take into account the people who gives Zero fucks about the forum, which is a massive number when compared to the people who actually use it. What of them? They won't see this post any time soon, so when you jump into an RP with them and start dictating how much chakra they have and how each technique costs this amount, you are just going to be ignored.
Like I said. This happened with my guideline. Some people followed it and a shit ton didn't. But if I were to fight Trev then he would nerf his character to 2 kg like I would.
I'm not intending this to be the rules. But if like 5 people joined in and agreed to it then I'm fine with that. 5 less people I have to argue with them about having infinite chakra.
Well, just how you have your guideline to nerf yourself into something that makes sense, do the same with challengers?
Tell them you play with a chakra pool system and they gotta abide to something similar (assuming you came up with a good system).
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I'm sorry, but no one is going to follow this, or any variation of this. Would it make keeping track of chakra easier? Sure it would. Though what of tailed beasts? What of Uzumaki having more chakra than say a Senju? What of Jiongu? There are too many variables to take into account, and honestly the last thing we need is a new set of rules. Even today I am finding out new rules for techniques that I never even knew about, so to add to the pile of rules won't do anything good.
Take into account the people who gives Zero fucks about the forum, which is a massive number when compared to the people who actually use it. What of them? They won't see this post any time soon, so when you jump into an RP with them and start dictating how much chakra they have and how each technique costs this amount, you are just going to be ignored.
Like I said. This happened with my guideline. Some people followed it and a shit ton didn't. But if I were to fight Trev then he would nerf his character to 2 kg like I would.
I'm not intending this to be the rules. But if like 5 people joined in and agreed to it then I'm fine with that. 5 less people I have to argue with them about having infinite chakra.
Well, just how you have your guideline to nerf yourself into something that makes sense, do the same with challengers?
Tell them you play with a chakra pool system and they gotta abide to something similar (assuming you came up with a good system).
That's my plan for it. No one has challenged me yet.
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I'm sorry, but no one is going to follow this, or any variation of this. Would it make keeping track of chakra easier? Sure it would. Though what of tailed beasts? What of Uzumaki having more chakra than say a Senju? What of Jiongu? There are too many variables to take into account, and honestly the last thing we need is a new set of rules. Even today I am finding out new rules for techniques that I never even knew about, so to add to the pile of rules won't do anything good.
Take into account the people who gives Zero fucks about the forum, which is a massive number when compared to the people who actually use it. What of them? They won't see this post any time soon, so when you jump into an RP with them and start dictating how much chakra they have and how each technique costs this amount, you are just going to be ignored.
Like I said. This happened with my guideline. Some people followed it and a shit ton didn't. But if I were to fight Trev then he would nerf his character to 2 kg like I would.
I'm not intending this to be the rules. But if like 5 people joined in and agreed to it then I'm fine with that. 5 less people I have to argue with them about having infinite chakra.
Well, just how you have your guideline to nerf yourself into something that makes sense, do the same with challengers?
Tell them you play with a chakra pool system and they gotta abide to something similar (assuming you came up with a good system).
That's my plan for it. No one has challenged me yet.
Accept the fact that no one actually has to follow those rules if they choose to challenge you.
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I'm sorry, but no one is going to follow this, or any variation of this. Would it make keeping track of chakra easier? Sure it would. Though what of tailed beasts? What of Uzumaki having more chakra than say a Senju? What of Jiongu? There are too many variables to take into account, and honestly the last thing we need is a new set of rules. Even today I am finding out new rules for techniques that I never even knew about, so to add to the pile of rules won't do anything good.
Take into account the people who gives Zero fucks about the forum, which is a massive number when compared to the people who actually use it. What of them? They won't see this post any time soon, so when you jump into an RP with them and start dictating how much chakra they have and how each technique costs this amount, you are just going to be ignored.
Like I said. This happened with my guideline. Some people followed it and a shit ton didn't. But if I were to fight Trev then he would nerf his character to 2 kg like I would.
I'm not intending this to be the rules. But if like 5 people joined in and agreed to it then I'm fine with that. 5 less people I have to argue with them about having infinite chakra.
Well, just how you have your guideline to nerf yourself into something that makes sense, do the same with challengers?
Tell them you play with a chakra pool system and they gotta abide to something similar (assuming you came up with a good system).
That's my plan for it. No one has challenged me yet.
Accept the fact that no one actually has to follow those rules if they choose to challenge you.
You seem to be really aggressive. As I said before I'm not enforcing anything as a rule.
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I'm sorry, but no one is going to follow this, or any variation of this. Would it make keeping track of chakra easier? Sure it would. Though what of tailed beasts? What of Uzumaki having more chakra than say a Senju? What of Jiongu? There are too many variables to take into account, and honestly the last thing we need is a new set of rules. Even today I am finding out new rules for techniques that I never even knew about, so to add to the pile of rules won't do anything good.
Take into account the people who gives Zero fucks about the forum, which is a massive number when compared to the people who actually use it. What of them? They won't see this post any time soon, so when you jump into an RP with them and start dictating how much chakra they have and how each technique costs this amount, you are just going to be ignored.
Like I said. This happened with my guideline. Some people followed it and a shit ton didn't. But if I were to fight Trev then he would nerf his character to 2 kg like I would.
I'm not intending this to be the rules. But if like 5 people joined in and agreed to it then I'm fine with that. 5 less people I have to argue with them about having infinite chakra.
Well, just how you have your guideline to nerf yourself into something that makes sense, do the same with challengers?
Tell them you play with a chakra pool system and they gotta abide to something similar (assuming you came up with a good system).
That's my plan for it. No one has challenged me yet.
Accept the fact that no one actually has to follow those rules if they choose to challenge you.
You seem to be really aggressive. As I said before I'm not enforcing anything as a rule.
No, I'm just being short. It seems like no one actually listens to what the community has to say about things when they want something done their way, so why bother putting any elaborate detail into my responses?
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Thats not that bad of an idea. Well the assignment of 'points' to technique and a basic pool. Because some people spam high level rank techniques without a sweat, thinking its okay. I mean some people have even made fun of me for using basic, low level attacks as if I'm required to sage mode, rasengandori you in one post. I like for my own techniques to stack up on one another and work together not just dish out whatever I think will be the most destructive. The small stuff is cheaper to dish out and less taxing when every zone fight is basically a counter to a counter to a counter to a counter to a counter to a god mod hit, forum debate, void. >>; Well thats more IC than ooc but thats the general trend.
Seeing the actual value of something as opposed to a belief or speculation is what I'm in favor for. So if someone brainy enough can devise a system scaling out most if not all techniques used then that could work out.
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Dang I was hoping that this is a topic about people actually using the same character name or picture for the character
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SL isn't a forum stop trying to make it one damn it!!!!
But for real I think it's a cool thing to play around with in a zone match or something. I'm sure certain people would be interested most not though.
I'd probably go about it by making a clan that enforced these rules of layouts. Perhaps some people would join it. Maybe not with their mains but alts and what not.
Me personally I'll just follow this style of rp when rping at the forum I rp at, of course the system is much more evolved then the current one you give. And here at SL I'll spam my heart out with chakra usage just for shirts and gigs because I enjoy it.
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So yada yada everyone has 34 kg yada infinite chakra yada 34355 jutsu yada yada yada invincible.
Time to limit this? My guideline that I posted years ago puts down being OP a bit, but in this form it will limit how much chakra people can use and so on. It's not really a solidified idea, but I want it to be something like this.
Academy Student - 3 chakra
Jounin - 14 chakra
Kage - 25 chakra
And then we put a chakra use on each jutsu.
Kamui takes 6 chakra so a jounin could only use it twice in that battle. And if CS or something is used it gives you 9 chakra. Certain kg and such will give more chakra. And so on. No more 12032 bijuu bombs and still a full tank of chakra.
I like this idea. There's too many jutsus to give each of them the cost amount. It would be easier if each jutsu cost 1 chakra. However a jutsu to believe to be A-rank or higher, cost 2 chakra.
Depending on your clan, you may have extra chakra or better chakra control.
Uzumaki can have 5 extra chakra and 50% chakra reduction in fuinjutsu
Senju clans can have 5 extra chakra and 20% chakra reduction in ninjutsu
Kaguya clan have 50% chakra reduction in taijutsu
Hyuuga clan have 50% chakra reduction overall.
Uchiha clan can have 2 extra chakra and 50% chakra reduction in genjutsu
Ōtsutsuki Clan can have 5 extra chakra & 50% chakra reduction overall
That's off the top of my head.
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So yada yada everyone has 34 kg yada infinite chakra yada 34355 jutsu yada yada yada invincible.
Time to limit this? My guideline that I posted years ago puts down being OP a bit, but in this form it will limit how much chakra people can use and so on. It's not really a solidified idea, but I want it to be something like this.
Academy Student - 3 chakra
Jounin - 14 chakra
Kage - 25 chakra
And then we put a chakra use on each jutsu.
Kamui takes 6 chakra so a jounin could only use it twice in that battle. And if CS or something is used it gives you 9 chakra. Certain kg and such will give more chakra. And so on. No more 12032 bijuu bombs and still a full tank of chakra.
I like this idea. There's too many jutsus to give each of them the cost amount. It would be easier if each jutsu cost 1 chakra. However a jutsu to believe to be A-rank or higher, cost 2 chakra.
Depending on your clan, you may have extra chakra or better chakra control.
Uzumaki can have 5 extra chakra and 50% chakra reduction in fuinjutsu
Senju clans can have 5 extra chakra and 20% chakra reduction in ninjutsu
Kaguya clan have 50% chakra reduction in taijutsu
Hyuuga clan have 50% chakra reduction overall.
Uchiha clan can have 2 extra chakra and 50% chakra reduction in genjutsu
Ōtsutsuki Clan can have 5 extra chakra & 50% chakra reduction overall
That's off the top of my head.
It's not that you have to give each Jutsu a cost it rather the rank of a Jutsu a cost. Also it helps to limit ranks like Genin to crank and below Jutsu and so farth. Maybe limit the amount of Jutsu one can know.
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Ranks;
A - 4 chakra cost
D - 1 chakra cost
Genin- only rank c and lower jutsus
Kage- all rank jutsus
Like that. Makes it much easier then each one individually.
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Ranks;
A - 4 chakra cost
D - 1 chakra cost
Genin- only rank c and lower jutsus
Kage- all rank jutsus
Like that. Makes it much easier then each one individually.
Sasuke is still a genin. >>;
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So is Kabuto?
Village ranking systems really go not speak to ability much. Just how many hoops you jumped through in the military hierarchy. Certainly those with rank have skill, but skill is not limited to those with rank.
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They's always going to be special circumstances. :P
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Well I don't think putting rank into the system will work out well, as far as Genin and thing of the like,
Cause that's pushing back toward reset over rp and while i'm not saying that's a bad thing but you run into characters like Ichirou who's current site rank is Academy student, but I'm an Amebuki in Amegakure. Plus I had rank on the old account and I don't even remember what It was lol,
But i mean if you just go off their rp rank then it would work out, but some people might not have an actual rank, like if they're wanderers or something of the like
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Well I don't think putting rank into the system will work out well, as far as Genin and thing of the like,
Cause that's pushing back toward reset over rp and while i'm not saying that's a bad thing but you run into characters like Ichirou who's current site rank is Academy student, but I'm an Amebuki in Amegakure. Plus I had rank on the old account and I don't even remember what It was lol,
But i mean if you just go off their rp rank then it would work out, but some people might not have an actual rank, like if they're wanderers or something of the like
Never will I go by account rank. In-game doesn't equal rp.
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yes. i presumed were were talking RP here...not forest fighting.
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What of people who have no official village rank? What of the people who claim to be Kage level, but are stuck at Gennin in a clan because they don't RP there enough?
I would also like to know if you plan on limiting the number of techniques/KG people have, seeing as you made a note of that in your initial post.
Does Sage mode or Gates fall under the category of KG considering they are both actually training. You mentioned that you would go by RP over Resets, so one could say that those two are not actual KG and would try and claim them along with whatever else they have.
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What of people who have no official village rank? What of the people who claim to be Kage level, but are stuck at Gennin in a clan because they don't RP there enough?
They's always going to be special circumstances. :P
I would also like to know if you plan on limiting the number of techniques/KG people have, seeing as you made a note of that in your initial post.
Does Sage mode or Gates fall under the category of KG considering they are both actually training. You mentioned that you would go by RP over Resets, so one could say that those two are not actual KG and would try and claim them along with whatever else they have.
In the guideline post I'm speaking of Gates and Sage mode are counted as resets to avoid such a loophole.
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I'm sorry I just had to point out the title of the topic and the name of the OP. :smt046
I thought the whole point of creating a character was that it was YOUR OWN character that suited your own personal desires and needs. The problem here is most people can't spark their own individuality or for the lack of better words are just lazy. In that sense, this is where the Madara-esque or Sasuke/Itachi-esque persona comes into play in SL's RP. Sure we can relate to the series but doesn't mean we have to copy the series xD
Another problem would be the 'stacked account' method people seem to go by now, I mean I myself have reached such in the past which is why I don't really bother with the forest or earning reborns anymore. Been there done that, not doing again, if you don't like it too bad. But with newer players joining they kinda see it as a 'norm' to go through this method as well, without really understanding that I myself, as well as many others started this site as a noob. Meaning we didn't have the reborns everyone else did and were literally weaker than the 'top dogs' only until working our way up through in-game and RP to get to where we are today. Its not like jumping into double dutch jump rope its more gradual like learning how to ride a bike. Until some of us get too cocky and start using no hands and crash into trees or something. Besides, even with all of my 'stuff' Keito as a character hates revealing his most secret techniques unless he knows they're a sure hit and his opponent won't even be able to comprehend what hit them until its too late. 'Missing' is one of his biggest peeves and thus will only use something if it works, as opposed to just throwing out techniques left and right hoping one would hit. If anything I start with the lowest rank techniques first, leading up to the higher more devastating ones. Just for the thrill of the fight ;-)
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... I thought the whole point of creating a character was that it was YOUR OWN character that suited your own personal desires and needs...
What if a well-stacked powerhouse character with attributes similar to Madara suit the personal desires and needs of a player? For example, Bocchiere kind of needed a stacked powerhouse character in order to do most everything he did in his The Akatsuki RP stretch. Nothing less would have really suited.
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You're complaining about people being overpowered in a place where someone is only accountable by themselves. That's not going to happen. Now, if we had, I dunno, RP mods who have final say over everything, than that would be legit.
But on SL? Nah, not gonna happen.
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We shouldn't be scared of Madaras. We should be scared of Kabutos.
But all in all, I haven't really seen any serious cases of unlimited chakra usage lately. And the standards of who's what level of ninja rank can really fluctuate. I personally assign ranks based upon activity, loyalty and power. Not just the power alone. Though Jinchuriki get a special ranking, for obvious reasons.
If we're being realistic about what's kage-level power, just look at the current kage and compare yourself to them. If you match up to their abilities, then cool, you've earned that perk of being able to say you are of kage-level.
http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Kage
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... I thought the whole point of creating a character was that it was YOUR OWN character that suited your own personal desires and needs...
What if a well-stacked powerhouse character with attributes similar to Madara suit the personal desires and needs of a player? For example, Bocchiere kind of needed a stacked powerhouse character in order to do most everything he did in his The Akatsuki RP stretch. Nothing less would have really suited.
Hidan avatar aside, Bocchiere was like no other villain in the series, incorporating different abilities into his one vessel to achieve such. But even that shouldn't be used as a model, the only thing is, yes eventually you can achieve 16 stacked resets and have quite an abundance of abilities along the way. Of course his route shouldn't be replicated but it was still original in some sense. The characters from the series are of course a guideline you may work with but if I wanted to see Madara fight I would watch the series or play any naruto game.Although, I can be completely hypocritical when it came to my alt Kimimaro Kaguya because I fairly enjoyed my twist on Kimimaro in the SL realm. But that was my own fanboy craze for the bone warrior before SL's abilities have grown to the way they are now.
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... I thought the whole point of creating a character was that it was YOUR OWN character that suited your own personal desires and needs...
What if a well-stacked powerhouse character with attributes similar to Madara suit the personal desires and needs of a player? For example, Bocchiere kind of needed a stacked powerhouse character in order to do most everything he did in his The Akatsuki RP stretch. Nothing less would have really suited.
Hidan avatar aside, Bocchiere was like no other villain in the series, incorporating different abilities into his one vessel to achieve such. But even that shouldn't be used as a model, the only thing is, yes eventually you can achieve 16 stacked resets and have quite an abundance of abilities along the way. Of course his route shouldn't be replicated but it was still original in some sense. The characters from the series are of course a guideline you may work with but if I wanted to see Madara fight I would watch the series or play any naruto game.Although, I can be completely hypocritical when it came to my alt Kimimaro Kaguya because I fairly enjoyed my twist on Kimimaro in the SL realm. But that was my own fanboy craze for the bone warrior before SL's abilities have grown to the way they are now.
To be frank, I have not seen any "literal" Madara's running around. SoSP-esque due to Rinnegan-sharingan-mokuton resets I have even seen less of (although I haven't actually run into alot of RPers as of late, the Iwa rebs beautifully lacking in that area).
Bocchiere I used as a model because his character was an antagonist unlike anything I personally had ever seen here on SL (for better and for worse, folks who have been around longer than me might differ in opinion on both points), and he stacked the way he did because it was essential for his objective. There would not have been an Iwa curbstomp with just a Jashinist-only character (unless Jashin threw in his 5-cents).