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All That Is Bijuu / Re: 5-tails IC hunt Setup (Eric v Sabumaru)

« on: September 20, 2017, 08:55:46 AM »

Okay so I'm a little drunk but here goes.

Recently Sabumaru formally challenged me for the 5-tails, IC hunt style. Keeping in mind with the rules, there are many things that need to be sorted out. Since it will definitely include more than just me and Sabumaru, I felt that making a thread was the easiest way to keep everything sorted. Plus:

The general flow of the RP will be charted out by the Hunter, the Hunted, a BGM, a backup BGM, and a Judge. The goal is to create a reasonable RP scenario where the Hunted and the Hunter at some point confront each other in some shape or fashion (it does not have to be a battle, but that is the most common direction for "confrontation"). The RP should take into consideration the desires of Support, and the discussion should take place on the forums and in public. The group has 2 weeks to setup and agree to the terms of the RP.

Basically as far as I understand this, here's what's happening: Sabumaru (to be called Sabu from now on) is a very world-wise man with an intelligence network built out of his shitty small clan. He knows where the Gobi is, and wants it so he can manipulate steam and take another step towards becoming a Water Deity. So therefore Sabu is actively hunting Eric for the Gobi.

Without further ado, let's get started with listing what we already have set in stone and what we still need:

Hunter - Sabumaru
Hunted - Eric
BGM - <Unknown>
Back-up BGM - <Unknown>
Judge - <Unknown>
Support - <Undeclared>

Hunter preferences also listed below:

Preferred BGM: Shadow, Athos, Kamui, Kirk, Kayenta, Tomi, Asadi, Gyururu, Kage, Rusaku, Rikudo, Becquerel

We agreed on Rusaku if he's open to the idea, but Asadi/Tomi/Athos/Kamui would also be acceptable for me.

Preferred Scenario: Eric is a missing ninja who leads the Nara Order organization. Knowledge of him being a summoner/host would come from him practicing/training with Kokuo out in the field. The BGM would most likely have a random witness, be it some bird randomly interrogated or a civilian watching from a guard post.  They can also learn directly from Athos Uzumaki, who gifted Eric the biju in the first place.

So yeah like my drunk ass said above, Sabu has a network of people running around to watch stuff. Eric if you don't like this logic then PM me my dude so we can work something more natural out.
But like seriously my clan does have informants so this is not unrealistic to assume that Sabu would have been told where the Gobi was.

Whether the summoned biju engages in battle or not, the beast cannot be transported by anyone other than the summoner via space-time ninjutsu unless the contract is broken via contract seal. The beast does not have to be fought for, however, as Eric is not above handing over his latest tool in exchange for something valuable, or in exchange for a favor (to be done IC).

Cool lol

If a fight though is preferred, then the first 4 points of my OOC list apply, with the inclusion that the fight itself should take place in biju arena, not on SL. Once the fight concludes the RP then can move back to the zone.

Like the OOC stuff, this is all of course negotiable, but I would rather not stray from this. Also, any arguments need to be settled in between the parties, in public, so no RPing party is left out of the loop here.[/i]

I'd prefer to do it on the forum too. This is all good.

Since I am not sure where Sabumaru is in RP right now, I can't really propose anything more concrete regarding the RP scenario at the moment.

Preferences aside, any volunteers for the positions of BGM, Backup BGM, or Judge are welcome.

Basically Sabu is in his clan halls right now, but his informants are kicking around and being sneaky about who they are, so that would basically boil down to Sabu having the information (who the host of the "Steam Beast" is) and just abandoning what he's doing to pursue that goal. This is pretty common behaviour for this character.
Also yeah if anyone who I didn't list as preferred volunteers then that's probably Gucci with me (save for Kirk. Not for any reason besides I'm drunk and fuck you Kirk.)

Okay so if I need to do anything else let me know?
I should really know this system better. I just get so bored of all the words. That's why I'm on the council, ya'll need someone who can digest the excessive typing and regurgitate it in a way that is accessible to the community.

Anyways, let me know what I'm missing and I'll fill out those forms too.

God bless, and watch out for snakes because they're legless bitches.

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All That Is Bijuu / Re: 穆王, Kokuō The 5-Tailed Dolphin Horse (五尾, Gobi) Challenge/Preferences Thread

« on: September 16, 2017, 05:49:09 AM »

This is me making an official challenge for this bijuu.

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Bijuu Arena / Re: Jay v Rusaku (discussion)

« on: September 05, 2017, 02:03:58 AM »

If Jay, Rusaku, or Warren want to take this up to the Council and have us officially talk about it and make a decision then just say the words. Other than that this fight is over by auto-forfeit.

Isn't that you making a decision, though?
Shouldn't this fall to Warren, as current Judge, to rule on?

Short answer: No, it is not the judge's job to enforce the biju rules, it's the Council's.

Long answer:

The judges in the match rule on whether the guidelines of zone fighting and general RP have been followed, while the Biju Council makes rulings on rule violations. This was a rule violation, one with a consequence outlined clearly in the Biju Rules.

Had Rusaku's post about the extension been followed up by nothing, then I would not have personally said anything until either called upon directly or until Rusaku had an issue with it. Imho, the violator should not be the only one who can miss out on not knowing the rules, as from my point of view the Council is not tasked with hunting for rule violations. It would make the job much more difficult and make us more like inquisitors than enforcers.

Er... Okay?
You still made a decision without being asked, though, from what I'm seeing. Why would you have left it be if no one said anything?
If something is your job, then it's your job whether or not anyone says anything about it, right? So either it's the councils job to rule on ALL infractions, or just the ones brought to you, isn't it? Or can they just pick and choose which violations to enforce? My point is, if no one brought it directly to the council, it's not a council matter. If it is a council matter, because it's a Bijuu rule and not just a general rule, then it's not just something you can ignore because someone "didn't know the rules".

This can be done in a new thread or in private, this one should be locked like a chastity belt.

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Council / Re: Established Consequence

« on: August 29, 2017, 09:51:20 PM »

If during a zone fight with a judge present one of the players retros or metas and the judge rules it as such and mandates a repost, then what is the problem here?

What the final judge rules, rules. At best the player can get a new judge and then that is it for an OOC fight; only in an IC Hunt can a judge's decision be appealed to the Biju Council.

Nothing is true till your partners also say its true, everything that does not violate the game rules is permitted, and that people are not obligated to play with someone they think is playing unfair.

1) Community decisions, written down or not, run the day. I can claim that my character revived Rares Uchiha and have him ride a sage mode transformed Eric into Kirigakure to preach the One True Faith of Bijuuism, but if nobody else takes it as happening, my character might as well not exist in that capacity.

2) Over the entire course of this site, from vampires to zombies to dragons to furries to, well, alot of stuff, the only stuff that Neji and his crew overtly worked to shut down was stuff that violated the game rules. Other than that, people are limited in what they can do only by 1 and 3, which in turn are meaningless without 2 being a thing.

3) Void, bans on stuff like OP jutsu, special rules for jutsu, ignoring posts, etc. This in particular takes a hit with things like biju, but overall players have alot of say in what kind of RP their characters are involved in.

The IC rules were set up in such a fashion as to turn a Biju Hunt into a RPG-like setting, but it requires alot of preparation and so far has not been tested under the rigors of actual RP. It is open ended for the very reason that being too restrictive in everything would have neither gotten the votes to get in (I imagine) or would have had to be changed everytime a SL guideline changed.

When a judge decides that a rule has been broken, and when the player has a history of breaking the same rule multiple times, the Council mete out the appropriate punishment. Quite simply, I propose that we let the judges be judges, and that the Council be no more than executors.

These seem to be the best things that have been said thus far.

Edit: You guys should really start editing these posts and cutting out the redundant/unnecessary/soapbox crap. It makes it so much more difficult to discuss this when we all have to read 10,000 words so you can make like two or three points.

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Council / Re: Established Consequence

« on: August 29, 2017, 01:17:06 AM »

Thank you for making my post so much more colorful.
Wanna follow me around and do that all the time?

No.

Who exactly is doling out the punishments for these, offenses?

Me.
Or the council/the judge of that match.

And shouldnt there be a guidebook on how to RP? There is already a starter's guide on getting into biju affairs from a desk jockey PoV, but no guide to how to RP around here.

Nobody here is obligated to teach anyone how to RP, just like nobody here should be limiting how people RP. If you show up and don't know how to RP (like I did several years ago) then you will probably learn by watching, and making mistakes which people will call you on. (Trust me on that)

Not being able to react against react against react against react against react against react against react doesn't seem fair if the characters have the reflexes to do it.

What?

Person A makes handsigns and uses fireball jutsu. Person B uses shunshin to, using a katana, slash at Person A in the middle of their handsigns, using sharingan to monitor movements and adjust as needed to slash. Person A jumps backwards and exhales the ball of fire in an attempt to get B away. Person B does a sidestep-jump-juke thing and as a result finishes slashing action on Person A? Person A, when fireball is dodged, activates byakugan and withdraws their own katana to meet Person B's slash headon? Person B though still is adjusting for movement and goes around the katana?

At what point does Person A have to take the slash, or at what point is B forced to not "continue" a previous action? What about actions that supposedly "account for anything to come" and thus lead into the next post as something already stated to be prepared for?

As far as I understand you are basically asking when the cutoff of retroposting begins, or something like that. Let's ask Potter Stewart.
"Stewart wrote in his short concurrence that [obscenity] was hard to define, but that "I know it when I see it.""

And just so we're all clear:
The phrase "I know it when I see it" is a colloquial expression by which a speaker attempts to categorize an observable fact or event, although the category is subjective or lacks clearly defined parameters.

Edit: formatting and a word

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Council / Re: Established Consequence

« on: August 28, 2017, 03:12:28 AM »

Finishing a post without responding to something means that that action is solid and cannot be changed by future posts.

That action cannot be reacted to later.

So if in two rounds that action causes something else to happen, B must react to THAT action, and not the initial one.

Zero tolerance for retroposting

Three strikes for proven metagaming seems fair.

Thanks Saiteki for writing this out so I didn't have to.

Go team.

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Naruto / Re: Boruto Chapter 15

« on: August 28, 2017, 02:59:10 AM »

Sorry for adding to the off topicness of this post, but......wut?

This is just how Trump would answer the question, "What's 2+2?"

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Naruto / Re: Boruto Chapter 15

« on: August 26, 2017, 09:38:27 PM »

What's 2+2?

"I have to say a lot of people have been asking this question. No, really. A lot of people come up to me and they ask me. They say, "What's 2+2"? And I tell them look, we know what 2+2 is. We've had almost eight years of the worst kind of math you can imagine. Oh my god, I can't believe it. Addition and subtraction of the 1s the 2s and the 3s. Its terrible. Its just terrible. Look, if you want to know what 2+2 is, do you want to know what 2+2 is? I'll tell you. First of all the number 2, by the way I love the number 2. It's probably my favorite number, no it is my favorite number. You know what, it's probably more like the number two but with a lot of zeros behind it. A lot. If I'm being honest, I mean, if I'm being honest. I like a lot of zeros. Except for Marco Rubio, now he's a zero that I don't like. Though, I probably shouldn't say that. He's a nice guy but he's like, "10101000101", on and on, like that. He's like a computer! You know what I mean? He's like a computer. I don't know. I mean, you know. So, we have all these numbers and we can add them and subtract them and add them. TIMES them even. Did you know that? We can times them OR divide them, they don't tell you that, and I'll tell you, no one is better at the order of operations than me. You wouldn't believe it. That I can tell you. So, we're gonna be the best on 2+2, believe me. OK? Alright. Thank you."

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Naruto / Re: Boruto Chapter 15

« on: August 26, 2017, 04:35:22 AM »

I can't read this, I have bijū issues to deal with.
I got some biiiiig stuff going on.

Biiiiiiiiiiig stuff.

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Council / Re: Where does the Sub fit in the 2:5 ratio?

« on: August 24, 2017, 12:37:55 AM »

They are the source of our votes, so it's important that we impress them as well with out ability to perform in front of an audience.

The power of democracy. That is until you need to fill the slots and I get let in.

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Council / Re: Where does the Sub fit in the 2:5 ratio?

« on: August 24, 2017, 12:20:24 AM »

Suppose 6 jinchuriki and 1 normie made up the council.
As long as the singular normie can point out when the bias of being a host is affecting the choices of the council, all the other members should be able to see it when pointed out and respect it. If not they shouldn't be on the council.

I'm not saying one person needs veto power, just the council should be made up of respectable individuals (and me) who can appreciate when their mistakes, unwitting or otherwise, are pointed out and can take a step back.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Council / Re: Where does the Sub fit in the 2:5 ratio?

« on: August 17, 2017, 03:00:17 AM »

For the record, I'm more concerned on updating the wikia than of this ratio you guys have on the council. I merely asked about it because Eric mentioned he might have to give up his beast, so I'm keeping myself updated so as to reflect it the wikia. If this is not the case, then there's no need to change anything on there.

Suspend the ratio clause as we need people to actually participate in the council. Only reinstate it when more interest and more bijū owners show interest.

I second this one.

I agree with suspending the ratio as well as it will serve no big purpose with the higher majority being non-jinchuriki still.

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Council / Re: Council Election Volunteers, 3rd Cohort

« on: August 15, 2017, 07:54:28 AM »

I'm already chalked full of regrets

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Council / Re: Council Election Volunteers, 3rd Cohort

« on: August 14, 2017, 05:42:38 AM »

I like the idea that my constant unavailablity won't cost anyone for once, but I'll still be able to help out. Saiteki can be my stand in.
Eric I'll send you my email as well.

So in other words I'd like the council seat, if all are okay with that. Don't want to step on any toes.

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Council / Re: Council Election Volunteers, 3rd Cohort

« on: August 11, 2017, 02:56:26 AM »

Is it an activity thing or an interest thing?

Definitely interested, just a busy guy.
It'd be nice to be able to help some way on this site, I spent a lot of time here over the years being a douchebag, giving back a little couldn't hurt.