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Casual => Naruto => Topic started by: Kage on October 17, 2012, 09:41:45 AM
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On another note, PAGE 15. :o
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Zojin totally called ittttt. Rinnegan = Senju + Uchiha. I feel like all of these things were so easy to speculate, and I thought for a moment that perhaps there would be more of a twist to it. But then I remember it's Kishimoto. XD
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Here comes the ugly part though. What happens to those with Rinnegan resets, who don't have GM Uchiha and Senju of the Forest status?
I'm glad I went with sage mode. >>;
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This chapter has further established that the Gedō Mazō sealing statue can only be summoned and used by those who possess the DNA of the Uchiha and Senju Clan. It has also been noted that it took Madara like, five decades just to unlock the Rinnegan, and the moment he unlocked the Rinnegan was at the moment he was about to die.
I think it's good that only those who possess the DNA of the Uchiha and Senju clan can claim the Rinnegan as everyone on Shinobi Legends waddles around and claims the Rinnegan. To be quite frank; Rinnegan, like the Flying Thunder God Technique, should remain unique and not be unlocked just because you've gained the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan. It is said to be used many decades ago back in the days when the Sage of the Six Paths was still alive and now in the present days; The Rinnegan, in general, like Chiyo's "One's Own Life Reincarnation" technique is almost lost forever.
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Well, what if you're reborn into the Rinnegan? In-game K.G.-Wise.
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Well, seeing as how it's shown that you need some of both Senju, and Uchiha DNA to use the good ol Rinny, I guess if you're reborn into solely Rinny, you're simply a normal, no KG ninja until you reborn into Uchiha and Senju. It sucks if you think about it because the people who went solely into Rinny would have wasted their time.
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Ha! Sage mode ftw! I do feel bad for all those with Rinnegan and no Uchiha, or Senju. Luckily if you have at least three paths, you can level quickly. Or just start pirating from people.
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Well, what if you're reborn into the Rinnegan? In-game K.G.-Wise.
That is still invalid, until you're reborn as both Uchiha & Senju in-game, your Rinnegan is locked. It's like saying you can use the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan just because you've reached the "Grand Master Uchiha" title. You can't claim the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan unless you lose your sight entirely and transplant the other person's eyes who's blood related to you into yourself, RP-wise.
So pretty much, I wouldn't count those who do not possess both the Uchiha's & Senju's power as the "real" Rinnegan as Kishimoto established. I would rather say they are pirated copies.
Denigrated comment to those who solely went for the Rinnegan, yes. But it's the mere truth.
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Unfortunately, if this is how it's going to go down in the doujutsu game, prepare to see more Uchiha than ever before. Poor Hyuuga.
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Unfortunately, if this is how it's going to go down in the doujutsu game, prepare to see more Uchiha than ever before. Poor Hyuuga.
Byakugan > Sharingan.
This was proven back in Part 1 of Naruto where the Byakugan was actually stronger and had more effective abilities than the Sharingan other than it's copy ability & the ability to see your opponent's movements. Take Neji's battle against Naruto back in the Chuunin Exams or his battle against Kidomaru as an example. The only reason the Sharingan is overpowered is because Kishimoto has an Uchiha fetish.
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Oh, I know that's true, but with sharingan going mainstream, and Byakugan warming the bench nowadays, everyone would know the sharingan's power and naturally go after that. Unless Kishi brings it back by saying something ultra far-fetched like byakugan transforming into some new doujutsu, i'm afraid that most will go with uchiha due to sheer popularity.
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Oh, I know that's true, but with sharingan going mainstream, and Byakugan warming the bench nowadays, everyone would know the sharingan's power and naturally go after that. Unless Kishi brings it back by saying something ultra far-fetched like byakugan transforming into some new doujutsu, i'm afraid that most will go with uchiha due to sheer popularity.
Then I would say this idiom to those who are butthurt because they require the Senju & Uchiha DNA aka the full reset Rinnegan users; "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."
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What about people who had the resets before this chapter and had gone with byakugan instead of sharingan? Would it be valid if they voided all byakugan abilities and instead claim sharingan?
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What about people who had the resets before this chapter and had gone with byakugan instead of sharingan? Would it be valid if they voided all byakugan abilities and instead claim sharingan?
This is still invalid, regardless if you possessed the Sharingan formerly before you changed Doujutsu to the Byakugan. This is like breaking the fourth-wall. Firstly, you are abandoning your Sharingan eyes for a new pair of eyes. So you aren't able to use the Sharingan after you've given them away or abandoned them. If you replaced them with the Byakugan, then you can only use the Byakugan.
However, you can keep one Sharingan eye and transplant the Byakugan eye to the other one that requires an eye, but it'll require a certain amount of chakra stamina and control to keep the said implanted Sharingan active. The same goes for the Byakugan if you want to activate and de-activate it.
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I guess now Yumei has to hand over his prize summon to me :twisted:
Also this does suck for those who went only Rinnegan and those who stive of of the Rinnegan implant (<--- Bocc). I myself am rather happy about the chapter though, I enjoyed it very much... as I said a few chapters ago Obito would want to create a dream land were him, Kakashi, and Rin would be together. Plus it was finally actually revealed that black Zetsu was from Madara.
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So...Nagato is a Senju now? Whut?
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Well it isn't revealed though I'm most certain that since Nagato was apart of the Uzumaki Clan as they have strong blood relation to Senju Genes causing them to be within him, though regardless of such Nagato merely had implants. I'm happy that my character still isn't effected by this as I don't ever plan on resetting an Uzumaki with Sharingan and will continue to claim Keitō having pirated rinnegan. :D
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Well it isn't revealed though I'm most certain that since Nagato was apart of the Uzumaki Clan as they have strong blood relation to Senju Genes causing them to be within him, though regardless of such Nagato merely had implants. I'm happy that my character still isn't effected by this as I don't ever plan on resetting an Uzumaki with Sharingan and will continue to claim Keitō having pirated rinnegan. :D
The only reason Nagato's hailing from the Senju lineage is because Mito Uzumaki married Hashirama Senju, the founder and leader of the Senju Clan. So that's pretty much the reason why Nagato's from the Senju lineage. The Uzumakis we have in the present day of the Naruto series are pretty much descendants of the Senju and Uzumaki Clan.
- Naruto, while we still don't know anything yet about his ancestors is quite possibly a descendant from the Senju Clan because of Kushina's genes.
- Tsunade is hailing from both the Senju and Uzumaki Clan as she is the granddaughter of Hashirama Senju & Mito Uzumaki. However, strange enough, she never used the "Uzumaki" as her middle name and remained loyal to the Senju Clan.
- Karin has we yet to know anything about. But I'll highly doubt Kishimoto even bothers to switch from Obito's background to Karin's all of sudden without a reason.
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The only reason Nagato's hailing from the Senju lineage is because Mito Uzumaki married Hashirama Senju, the founder and leader of the Senju Clan. So that's pretty much the reason why Nagato's from the Senju lineage. The Uzumakis we have in the present day of the Naruto series are pretty much descendants of the Senju and Uzumaki Clan.
Yeah no that is terribly wrong. Mito and Hashirama did not go off on a wild offspring making just so the Uzumaki and Senju can be related xD The two clans had already been related prior to their marriage which is why Senju Blood could be noticed within Nagato.
Aside from that I believe now with the whole new trollin' reveal that Kishimoto displayed for us; that if one is to even want to claim they have evolved their EMS with senju blood to evolve to the Rinnegan they must be as close to death as Madara was. I have no idea as age but I'm giving a wild guess 70+ years old and for the marvelous Madara to even unlock the Rinnegan just near his actual death proves to me that it isn't a simple one bloodline + another bloodline = Rinnegan, though that is just my opinion.
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In one day, many Rinnegan have disappeared from Shinobi Legends! Now Sage Mode users (yeah, there's not too many of us) have a monopoly for now! :o
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In one day, many Rinnegan have disappeared from Shinobi Legends! Now Sage Mode users (yeah, there's not too many of us) have a monopoly for now! :o
No, now many of the Rinnegan users are seeking the Sharingan & Mokuton (Senju Genes) to officially "claim" the Rinnegan. I tell you, sometimes I wish Admin Neji never even added that stupid eye to the Kekkei Genkai system in the first place. Toad Sage Arts, yes, but Rinnegan is a no go. The Rinnegan needs to get limited from using. Only a very few amount of people here on Shinobi Legends deserves to be using the Rinnegan.
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In one day, many Rinnegan have disappeared from Shinobi Legends! Now Sage Mode users (yeah, there's not too many of us) have a monopoly for now! :o
No, now many of the Rinnegan users are seeking the Sharingan & Mokuton (Senju Genes) to officially "claim" the Rinnegan. I tell you, sometimes I wish Admin Neji never even added that stupid eye to the Kekkei Genkai system in the first place. Toad Sage Arts, yes, but Rinnegan is a no go. The Rinnegan needs to get limited from using. Only a very few amount of people here on Shinobi Legends deserves to be using the Rinnegan.
Well it shouldn't be too much of a problem. With this new information brought to us by Kishimoto, people have to work thrice as hard to grab the Rinnegan. To me it seems ya gotta have at least four resets. Two in Uchiha (for mangekyou and evolution into EMS possibility), one in Senju for the simple genes, then they get access to Rinnegan which in itself is 6 more resets. In complete honesty, it's a lot of work, and I do in fact see people getting tired of leveling by the time they get to 1st path.
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In one day, many Rinnegan have disappeared from Shinobi Legends! Now Sage Mode users (yeah, there's not too many of us) have a monopoly for now! :o
No, now many of the Rinnegan users are seeking the Sharingan & Mokuton (Senju Genes) to officially "claim" the Rinnegan. I tell you, sometimes I wish Admin Neji never even added that stupid eye to the Kekkei Genkai system in the first place. Toad Sage Arts, yes, but Rinnegan is a no go. The Rinnegan needs to get limited from using. Only a very few amount of people here on Shinobi Legends deserves to be using the Rinnegan.
Well it shouldn't be too much of a problem. With this new information brought to us by Kishimoto, people have to work thrice as hard to grab the Rinnegan. To me it seems ya gotta have at least four resets. Two in Uchiha (for mangekyou and evolution into EMS possibility), one in Senju for the simple genes, then they get access to Rinnegan which in itself is 6 more resets. In complete honesty, it's a lot of work, and I do in fact see people getting tired of leveling by the time they get to 1st path.
The females have to shake their bootylicious booty like a Polaroid picture like no tomorrow to unlock the Rinnegan! The males however, just have to make out with Mei Terumī to unlock the Rinnegan.
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Oh bah. Rinnegan is "harder" to get mostly for those who went straight down Rinnegan light and have one or two resets. Essentially, the few Grand Masters of the Uchiha actually do not have it as hard as we like to think.
Nevettheless, Hyugans got killed off by the mangekyou sharingan, not the Kishi orgy. Though I'm sure the two are not sheer coincidences...
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Hyuugas can pretty much OHKO anyone if they can get a hit in.
And in regards to GM Uchihas, they would need Mokuton resets. Not reset, resets. Otherwise, Uchihas everywhere would simply claim to be part Senju and retcon most of their character's history.
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From this little bit of business I can foresee people trying to argue legit piracy of Senju cells from Senju users' bodies. What's stopping people from trying to do that, instead of resetting for it and claiming to be partial Senju? After all, a person could simply "claim" to be a DNA/ science expert to do so. Forgive me if something like this was already gone over but I haven't been active with forum matters until now.
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Nagato was most likely of both Senju and Uzumaki DNA like Tsunade. Also, pirated Rinnegan are void unless the person you got the Rinnegan from had reborns in all three categories.
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Pirated stuff can be pretty controversial, depending on what it is and how it was attained.
Nagato was most likely of both Senju and Uzumaki DNA like Tsunade. Also, pirated Rinnegan are void unless the person you got the Rinnegan from had reborns in all three categories.
Actually, the Uzumaki are a cousin-clan of the Senju, and originally derived from them. That makes Nagato and Naruto technically of Senju lineage.
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Nagato was most likely of both Senju and Uzumaki DNA like Tsunade. Also, pirated Rinnegan are void unless the person you got the Rinnegan from had reborns in all three categories.
I'm not really talking about pirating the eye, as much as pirating someone's DNA to unlock the eye. Say a Senju needed Uchiha DNA, and went about pirating that strand of DNA and implanting it, or vice-versa with an Uchiha needing Senju. Is there some kind of ruling preventing that or no?
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I was never one to accept DNA transfusion and pirated KG without resets but I would just like to point out that Mokuton is a reset in game which in game piracy of KG should be a slap on the face if you want to implant it. If one were to 'implant senju genes' They must have a source credible as we don't have a Hashirama anymore in this world and I don't think Kirk wants 50+ needles in him.
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I'm not really talking about pirating the eye, as much as pirating someone's DNA to unlock the eye. Say a Senju needed Uchiha DNA, and went about pirating that strand of DNA and implanting it, or vice-versa with an Uchiha needing Senju. Is there some kind of ruling preventing that or no?
Actually, that only works one way. A Senju can't unlock the Rinnegan if they don't have the Sharingan eyes to evolve it from.
I was never one to accept DNA transfusion and pirated KG without resets but I would just like to point out that Mokuton is a reset in game which in game piracy of KG should be a slap on the face if you want to implant it. If one were to 'implant senju genes' They must have a source credible as we don't have a Hashirama anymore in this world and I don't think Kirk wants 50+ needles in him.
Mokuton is generally regarded as the Senju clan's KG in the SL universe, so we don't have to worry about Kirk getting kidnapped/experimented/raped/cloned. But even if one wants to implant some Senju DNA (without the resets) into themselves, the survival rate is generally regarded as very low. Yamato was the only one out of sixty children to even survive the process. So 1/60 chance of surviving pretty much sucks.
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So how did Nagato use the Rinnegan? Where was his Uchiha DNA? Or did the eyes themselves count as that?
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So how did Nagato use the Rinnegan? Where was his Uchiha DNA? Or did the eyes themselves count as that?
From how I see it Nagato got Madara's Rinnegan or well thats what I read as when they portrayed a younger Nagato bearing them. He himself holds no uchiha lineage as the eyes were transplanted in him though him being an Uzumaki and their close relation with the Senju shows he has Senju bloodline within him or else Kishi would have completely trolled us into thinking Nagato was apart of the Uzumaki clan the whole time.
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So how did Nagato use the Rinnegan? Where was his Uchiha DNA? Or did the eyes themselves count as that?
Actually, the Uzumaki are a cousin-clan of the Senju, and originally derived from them. That makes Nagato and Naruto technically of Senju lineage.
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Like how that doesn't answer my question. So if I take a Rinnegan from someone who has it I could fully utilize it with just Senju DNA?
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Like how that doesn't answer my question. So if I take a Rinnegan from someone who has it I could fully utilize it with just Senju DNA?
Probably, My theory is Nagato's eyes has both the Rinnegan and Sharingan. but without the Uchiha's dna in him, he could not revert back to the sharingan, thus permanent Rinnegan. So basically if you kill someone when there rinnegan is activated and pluck them out, while having Senju dna, is should suffice. Also make sure whoever you pirate from had everything they needed to obtain it (Rinnegan, Mokuton, Uchiha resets)
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Like how that doesn't answer my question. So if I take a Rinnegan from someone who has it I could fully utilize it with just Senju DNA?
Probably, My theory is Nagato's eyes has both the Rinnegan and Sharingan. but without the Uchiha's dna in him, he could not revert back to the sharingan, thus permanent Rinnegan. So basically if you kill someone when there rinnegan is activated and pluck them out, while having Senju dna, is should suffice. Also make sure whoever you pirate from had everything they needed to obtain it (Rinnegan, Mokuton, Uchiha resets)
Then I hit the money shot then
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Yay, I'm not by this at all.
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... we don't have to worry about Kirk getting kidnapped/experimented/raped/cloned....
Yeah, can't rape the willing ;)
I was never one to accept DNA transfusion and pirated KG without resets but I would just like to point out that Mokuton is a reset in game which in game piracy of KG should be a slap on the face if you want to implant it. If one were to 'implant senju genes' They must have a source credible as we don't have a Hashirama anymore in this world and I don't think Kirk wants 50+ needles in him.
Actually I shoot up all the time :P