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Title: Naruto 621
Post by: Snap on February 20, 2013, 10:57:15 AM
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/621
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Angra Mainyu on February 20, 2013, 11:27:13 AM
KG Sage Modes. Okay.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: sploofmoof on February 20, 2013, 12:47:22 PM
Lololololol. Quick, buff mokuton in-game resets.  They're clearly not as strong as depicted in the manga now.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Zenaku on February 20, 2013, 03:26:58 PM
More OP Mokuton-ness? *claims all*
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Kage on February 20, 2013, 03:59:31 PM
DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

Mokuton + Sage Mode = Mad hacks.

Though Uetto and myself had already made up a Thousand Hands jutsu. Guess we better nerf that a bit, since this is the canon thousand hands jutsu.

Also, superior quality here: http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/79184649/1
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Snap on February 20, 2013, 07:52:44 PM
This technique shall get nerfed. It is too overpowered and on the same par as a Bijuu. However, if this technique shall get legalized on usage to Shinobi Legends' RP World, then I for one, would say that the Perfect Susanoo should be added/legalized just as much (though, it is nerfed as well). It doesn't really make any sense if this technique is legalized on usage in RP while Perfect Susanoo is not.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Old Man Xia on February 20, 2013, 09:22:48 PM
I can't even view it for some reason....
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Omega Purple on February 20, 2013, 10:27:10 PM
lol at the amount of new things introduced in this chapter. And covering a bijuu with Susano'o? EXTRA ARMOR ER'WHERE.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Old Man Xia on February 21, 2013, 01:25:01 AM
Well this sucks since I can't view this awesome chapter >:(
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: UettoSenju on February 21, 2013, 01:57:06 AM
A Mokuton Tech I can't use interesting.... at least I didn't get ripped off of again.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Eric on February 21, 2013, 02:14:07 AM
That flashback, taking us away from the epic fight... WTF was with that tangent?  :o


And now I feel even more overwhelmed in my goal...
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Omega Purple on February 21, 2013, 03:36:06 AM
Well this sucks since I can't view this awesome chapter >:(

maybe try using a different browser? different website?
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: UettoSenju on February 21, 2013, 04:16:44 AM
A Mokuton Tech I can't use interesting.... at least I didn't get ripped off of again.

Although Nathan just pointed out to me I still got trolled by Kishi...
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Kage on February 21, 2013, 03:22:34 PM
This technique shall get nerfed. It is too overpowered and on the same par as a Bijuu. However, if this technique shall get legalized on usage to Shinobi Legends' RP World, then I for one, would say that the Perfect Susanoo should be added/legalized just as much (though, it is nerfed as well). It doesn't really make any sense if this technique is legalized on usage in RP while Perfect Susanoo is not.
Perfect Susanoo would only require 4 Uchiha resets + EMS.
This new Mokuton technique may be pretty powerful, but it requires a total of 10 resets in order to fully utilize it (4 Mokuton, 6 Sage Mode). Sure it may be able to restrain a tailed-beast, but I'm sure a jinchurikki would be smart enough to not go full bijuu transformation, to only get caught in it. They could just remain in their normal state and still have the perks of a truly massive chakra supply.

It seems pretty fair to me, since the Rinnegan can pretty much defy and control some of the laws of life and nature, even at the bare minimum of 2 Uchiha resets, 1 Mokuton reset and 1 Rinnegan reset (4 resets minimum) + EMS.

But we also have to remember that this is a true kage-level battle. So it's not like everyone on the site is going to be able to do all this.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: sploofmoof on February 21, 2013, 06:24:52 PM
This technique shall get nerfed. It is too overpowered and on the same par as a Bijuu. However, if this technique shall get legalized on usage to Shinobi Legends' RP World, then I for one, would say that the Perfect Susanoo should be added/legalized just as much (though, it is nerfed as well). It doesn't really make any sense if this technique is legalized on usage in RP while Perfect Susanoo is not.
Perfect Susanoo would only require 4 Uchiha resets + EMS.
This new Mokuton technique may be pretty powerful, but it requires a total of 10 resets in order to fully utilize it (4 Mokuton, 6 Sage Mode). Sure it may be able to restrain a tailed-beast, but I'm sure a jinchurikki would be smart enough to not go full bijuu transformation, to only get caught in it. They could just remain in their normal state and still have the perks of a truly massive chakra supply.

It seems pretty fair to me, since the Rinnegan can pretty much defy and control some of the laws of life and nature, even at the bare minimum of 2 Uchiha resets, 1 Mokuton reset and 1 Rinnegan reset (4 resets minimum) + EMS.

But we also have to remember that this is a true kage-level battle. So it's not like everyone on the site is going to be able to do all this.


Honestly I'd say that this is far more than a 'kage' level battle.  This is a battle between two absolute legends xD
Considering the 1st hokage is moving on his own while under the strengthened edo tensei like it isn't even a thing and the rest of them are trapped. (Although my bet is because he had to use Hashirama's cells to strengthen it, and well, he IS Hashirama so he controls them better xD)

I don't even think that the majority of Kage's on SL would rank within this power level (or that they should really)
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Kage on February 21, 2013, 08:46:27 PM
This technique shall get nerfed. It is too overpowered and on the same par as a Bijuu. However, if this technique shall get legalized on usage to Shinobi Legends' RP World, then I for one, would say that the Perfect Susanoo should be added/legalized just as much (though, it is nerfed as well). It doesn't really make any sense if this technique is legalized on usage in RP while Perfect Susanoo is not.
Perfect Susanoo would only require 4 Uchiha resets + EMS.
This new Mokuton technique may be pretty powerful, but it requires a total of 10 resets in order to fully utilize it (4 Mokuton, 6 Sage Mode). Sure it may be able to restrain a tailed-beast, but I'm sure a jinchurikki would be smart enough to not go full bijuu transformation, to only get caught in it. They could just remain in their normal state and still have the perks of a truly massive chakra supply.

It seems pretty fair to me, since the Rinnegan can pretty much defy and control some of the laws of life and nature, even at the bare minimum of 2 Uchiha resets, 1 Mokuton reset and 1 Rinnegan reset (4 resets minimum) + EMS.

But we also have to remember that this is a true kage-level battle. So it's not like everyone on the site is going to be able to do all this.


Honestly I'd say that this is far more than a 'kage' level battle.  This is a battle between two absolute legends xD
Considering the 1st hokage is moving on his own while under the strengthened edo tensei like it isn't even a thing and the rest of them are trapped. (Although my bet is because he had to use Hashirama's cells to strengthen it, and well, he IS Hashirama so he controls them better xD)

I don't even think that the majority of Kage's on SL would rank within this power level (or that they should really)
In all technicality, all Senju in SL have vitality and the potential for Mokuton. Though those with Mokuton of course have the superior vitality. But it's not too much to worry about, since among the kages, only Zen and myself have the ability to use this massive Biju-stomping jutsu. But you won't see me going around and spamming it in every village and battle I come across. It's just not in my character to do such a thing.

The only thing one would really have to worry about, is someone who is more than willing to do that. But that's the whole point of being/having a kage. To take on the most dire and serious of threats that attempt to trample upon the village they serve and maintain. But that doesn't happen at all anymore, since apparently almost every village has  impenetrable/indestructible/invincible/inconceivable/incomprehensible/illogical/inconsiderate/incoherent gates and walls which either limit or restrict RP heavily. But that's a whole other issue for a whole other thread to discuss.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: UettoSenju on February 21, 2013, 09:11:01 PM
So far all we have seen if the jutsu formed really have no idea what it does yet. I find the Sage Mode he is under more interesting.... the pattern on his face is pretty cool. I didn't really not any Toad related features though, perhaps I missed them, so could it be some other form of Sage Mode.... besides the Toads and Snakes we have seen so far.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Kage on February 21, 2013, 09:27:07 PM
So far all we have seen if the jutsu formed really have no idea what it does yet. I find the Sage Mode he is under more interesting.... the pattern on his face is pretty cool. I didn't really not any Toad related features though, perhaps I missed them, so could it be some other form of Sage Mode.... besides the Toads and Snakes we have seen so far.
It might be Slugs, but that's just my guess.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Omega Purple on February 21, 2013, 10:24:13 PM
So far all we have seen if the jutsu formed really have no idea what it does yet. I find the Sage Mode he is under more interesting.... the pattern on his face is pretty cool. I didn't really not any Toad related features though, perhaps I missed them, so could it be some other form of Sage Mode.... besides the Toads and Snakes we have seen so far.
It might be Slugs, but that's just my guess.

What if it's sage mode like a 'sage of the six paths' mode or something? As in a sage with unimaginable power but not necessarily linked to a summon or contract so it's more a title or status. Unless Buddha is his summon or something. XD
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: UettoSenju on February 21, 2013, 11:10:16 PM
It kinda reminded me of the Monk Tech, maybe he is a Monk Hermit and that is his Sage Mode. A hermit of the monks just like Uetto... and I got trolled again >.>
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Eric on February 22, 2013, 12:39:24 AM

... But we also have to remember that this is a true kage-level battle. So it's not like everyone on the site is going to be able to do all this.


But enough probably will...
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Solo Iori on February 22, 2013, 02:44:49 AM
Looks more like Tsunade's Rebirth Technique.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: sploofmoof on February 22, 2013, 03:42:24 AM
It would be interesting if it was related to slugs, since we know the other two sannin summons relate to sage mode.  Also since he's the grandfather of Tsunade, so that would tie them together pretty nicely xD

Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Angra Mainyu on February 22, 2013, 10:06:29 AM
This technique shall get nerfed. It is too overpowered and on the same par as a Bijuu. However, if this technique shall get legalized on usage to Shinobi Legends' RP World, then I for one, would say that the Perfect Susanoo should be added/legalized just as much (though, it is nerfed as well). It doesn't really make any sense if this technique is legalized on usage in RP while Perfect Susanoo is not.
Perfect Susanoo would only require 4 Uchiha resets + EMS.
This new Mokuton technique may be pretty powerful, but it requires a total of 10 resets in order to fully utilize it (4 Mokuton, 6 Sage Mode). Sure it may be able to restrain a tailed-beast, but I'm sure a jinchurikki would be smart enough to not go full bijuu transformation, to only get caught in it. They could just remain in their normal state and still have the perks of a truly massive chakra supply.

It seems pretty fair to me, since the Rinnegan can pretty much defy and control some of the laws of life and nature, even at the bare minimum of 2 Uchiha resets, 1 Mokuton reset and 1 Rinnegan reset (4 resets minimum) + EMS.

But we also have to remember that this is a true kage-level battle. So it's not like everyone on the site is going to be able to do all this.

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30619964.jpg)

Anyway, more meaningless flashbacks.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Eric on February 22, 2013, 01:58:56 PM
The flashbacks aren't meaningless. The explanation of the 2nd Hokage referring to Uchiha love ties up Obito over Rin rather well.

I'm sure these flashbacks won't be much different, though if they were from enemy clans, how in the world did they meet just as children?
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Kage on February 22, 2013, 04:01:47 PM
The flashbacks aren't meaningless. The explanation of the 2nd Hokage referring to Uchiha love ties up Obito over Rin rather well.

I'm sure these flashbacks won't be much different, though if they were from enemy clans, how in the world did they meet just as children?
I think the bigger question is, did Kishimoto really leave us on a cliffhanger within a flashback, which was previously left on a cliffhanger in another flashback?

Who knows, but if the flashbacks end here and we immediately return to Sasuke, then I'm sure that we can conclude that Madara was beaten senseless.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on February 22, 2013, 05:53:11 PM
I'm glad I don't RP anymore.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Eric on February 23, 2013, 06:09:23 PM
Man, sucks to be us that still do RP eh?
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Uchiha Sasuke on February 24, 2013, 12:35:25 PM
Late post but I agree.

This shit is getting old fast. :|
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Bocchiere on February 25, 2013, 05:22:04 PM
And you guys complained about me being OP, I was just ahead of the curve.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: UettoSenju on February 25, 2013, 11:27:59 PM
I'd still like to see exactly what all is behind this jutsu before going crazy over it.  I mean if it is just some sort of physical wooden being then it is not unbeatable buy any means. Plus I don't think it should be just up for anyone to use... if It is a Sage Mode Mokuton ordeal and not something a little more different then I say the only one who should be able to hold claim to the Tech would be like Zen.   
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Bocchiere on February 25, 2013, 11:36:20 PM
Great idea Kirk. Every time a really over powered technique comes out it should only be able to be used by one selected already really OP person. The rich get richer. I wish I was around to benefit.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Kage on February 26, 2013, 12:08:18 AM
It's already been generally agreed-upon that Senjutsu can be used by any Sage Mode user. Except for those that require certain conditions and summons, like Goemon, which requires a mixture of toad oil, fire and wind. Toad oil can only be made by Toad Sage Mode users, Toads or Shima and Fukasaku.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: UettoSenju on February 26, 2013, 05:07:45 AM
I said Zen because he is an example of what resets would be needed and all.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Kage on February 26, 2013, 10:11:16 PM
You mean 4x Mokuton and 6x Sage Mode?
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: UettoSenju on February 26, 2013, 11:07:45 PM
You mean 4x Mokuton and 6x Sage Mode?
Yeah, but I also think since it seems to be such a large scale jutsu it should require that and all 16 resets or that plus 500 oro kills.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Eric on February 27, 2013, 12:55:48 AM
You mean 4x Mokuton and 6x Sage Mode?
Yeah, but I also think since it seems to be such a large scale jutsu it should require that and all 16 resets or that plus 500 oro kills.


No one ever said that the technique had to be cheap on chakra costs. Jeez, rather than kicking up the resets and oro kill requirement for it, why not just bear in mind massive chakra costs? 16 resets and 500 Oro kills atop that would be sort of overkill don't you think?
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Kage on February 27, 2013, 08:24:59 AM
The chakra cost wouldn't matter that much, since it's stated in the series that Sage Mode users have a large chakra reservoir in the first place. Spawning four of those though, would probably make the user run out of chakra.

And the whole 16 resets + 500 oro kills is a bit too much overkill. Even Jinton doesn't have that requirement.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Snap on March 01, 2013, 11:38:41 PM
I'd still like to see exactly what all is behind this jutsu before going crazy over it.  I mean if it is just some sort of physical wooden being then it is not unbeatable buy any means. Plus I don't think it should be just up for anyone to use... if It is a Sage Mode Mokuton ordeal and not something a little more different then I say the only one who should be able to hold claim to the Tech would be like Zen.

Denied.

There are other people who has the same amount of resets Zenaku has currently, some may have different Kekkei Genkais and such, but yet, they still have the amounts of resets to display quality of being capable of using the One Thousand Hands Technique, perhaps at an utmost degree than Zenaku himself. And on top of that, it is an Elemental technique combined with Senjutsu. So I don't really believe that such technique shall be claimed by a specific individual. If so, then we could just easily claim all the other crap such as the Perfect Susanoo, Wood Release: Wood Dragon Technique, Meteorite Technique, etc, etc....

In my opinion, I believe that the One Thousand Hands Technique along with the Perfect Susanoo, shall get extremely exhibited from using in RP due to its incredible physical powers and the fact that it can Mountain Bust, and/or perhaps Multi-Mountain Bust. If not exhibited, then its just an instant void in my book.

@Bocchiere: There are other people out there who are stronger than Zenaku himself and can beat him. While Zenaku may have attained all nine of the Bijuus by himself, defeated several infamous RolePlayers in Zone Fights, he is not exactly the strongest out there. Someone even stronger than Zenaku and some other of the strongest RolePlayers on SL will surface and eventually defeat him. Even though I have to confess that Yumei and Zenaku are obviously the Madara and Hashirama of SL.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Eric on March 02, 2013, 08:16:21 AM
The chakra cost certainly would have to matter. You only have so much senjutsu to work with before you run out, and need to stock back up again. Not to mention that it would, with time, wear you down. Granted, it's not very likely that someone would wait around to have that technique slam them into the ground like 'dat weed' in California, but the amount of times it can be used and/or how long it can be sustained is important when dealing with a technique like that.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: UettoSenju on March 03, 2013, 12:37:59 AM
Will repeat he is using Zen as an example of sorts. I just think have such high standards for it to be usable limits it usage... sense most at that level probably would spam it all that much anyways. I mean really they have a ton of other tech to use. Secondly I say call claim for it cause that as well limits the usage of it, especially if the person who claims it never uses it. Anyways it doesn't really matter to me.... every jutsu has a weakness.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Snap on March 03, 2013, 01:44:49 AM
every jutsu has a weakness.

I second this.
Title: Re: Naruto 621
Post by: Eric on March 03, 2013, 01:55:58 AM
...I just think have such high standards for it to be usable limits it usage...

That comment reminds me of hiraishin, which is technically canon, but was eventually claimed and regulated. It can/has been done before I would suppose...