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Roleplay => Village Square => Topic started by: Hitler-Chan on October 04, 2016, 11:28:51 PM

Title: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Hitler-Chan on October 04, 2016, 11:28:51 PM
I've seen this happening a lot, a lot a lot in this new era of bijuu combatants. Am I the only one that see's this and cringes? For the longest time, it was immediate DQ if this was done, when did this change? >>
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Ѕhadow on October 04, 2016, 11:51:06 PM
If it's edited after you post then it's an issue.

I don't really mind it unless they totally change their post then I complain.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Teostra on October 05, 2016, 01:16:40 AM
I would only edit if I realized I made a small error right after posting. Otherwise, I agree that it's bad manners to change your post in that instance. At least not without letting your opponent know if you waited a while and they still haven't posted.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Hitler-Chan on October 05, 2016, 01:27:34 AM
If someone posts, and there are egregious mistakes in grammar, I believe they are allowed to change anything within the first 5 minutes after posting. However, someone could come along, notice a serious tactical error, and let them know to change it, then it becomes BM, and unacceptable.(Bad mannered)
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Genesis on October 05, 2016, 01:34:24 AM
If someone posts, and there are egregious mistakes in grammar, I believe they are allowed to change anything within the first 5 minutes after posting. However, someone could come along, notice a serious tactical error, and let them know to change it, then it becomes BM, and unacceptable.(Bad mannered)

I'd say an edit made 10 minutes after the initial post. Like, any grammatical mistakes. But the only problem I see that someone edits their post. and lo and behold, their opponent is writing a response post to the OG post. So, yes, it is a problem.

I'd say just put a simple edit history in your post. If it's a grammatical fix, put "Edit: Grammar" and etc.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Iburi Ray on October 05, 2016, 01:47:13 AM
Only reason I edited my posts were due to spelling errors which I made because I posted from a phone, other then that, unless a judge or your opponent knows you edited to fix a move name or whatever, it shouldn't be permitted, though maybe it is something you could set up with your opponent before hand.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Vail on October 05, 2016, 02:00:51 AM
I find it beyond shameful to edit one's post to correct a tactical error. Once it gets posted, it's there and shouldn't be changed (unless your opponent permits you to do so).

I've edited my posts in my current biju fight, but that's simply because I'm mildly obsessive with everything and if I see an error in my grammar, I can't help myself. :P
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Ѕhadow on October 05, 2016, 02:05:04 AM
Every time I edit my post I always take a screenshot before to prove it wasn't anything major. I have like 5 currently in my photos that I've yet to delete.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Hazama on October 05, 2016, 02:26:44 AM
How do you know it is a grammatical edit, though? >.> If it is the first time you are seeing the post, you have no idea what they could have answered.

In my eyes, editing your post in a Bijuu fight is an immediate DQ, no questions asked o.o I don't care if you put fucking their instead of there, or spelled 'see' as 'sea'. It is an official fight, there should be no edits, at all. At least, that is how I look at it.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Ace on October 05, 2016, 02:28:07 AM
Here's the thing, no one knows how many times an edit was made. ;)
Once an edit is made, that time stamp clearly overrides the initial post time stamp.

Only practical solution, if people actually find it to be a problem, prohibit editing posts all together for the time being, or for any significant matches. These 5 min or 10 min edit limits do not solve the problem, because as this topic tries to address, it is the trust factor that is in question.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Ѕhadow on October 05, 2016, 02:31:57 AM
The solution is a screenshot >>
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Ace on October 05, 2016, 02:36:14 AM
The solution is a screenshot >>

A person edits, then screenshots, then edits again, does not screen shot, edits again, screenshots...
Well, the proof is of only two screenshots. The burden then remains on the other person to prove another edit was made. Not fair at all to place the burden of proving what was edited and what was not on the other person, obviously.

The author of the topic and others made a completely valid point, not much to discuss... =)
Again, trust factor, premise of the entire topic.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Ѕhadow on October 05, 2016, 02:42:27 AM
Then add a time limit?

Time frame to edit post is only 1 hour after. Any after that is DQ.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Hitler-Chan on October 05, 2016, 03:13:13 AM
How do you know it is a grammatical edit, though? >.> If it is the first time you are seeing the post, you have no idea what they could have answered.

In my eyes, editing your post in a Bijuu fight is an immediate DQ, no questions asked o.o I don't care if you put fucking their instead of there, or spelled 'see' as 'sea'. It is an official fight, there should be no edits, at all. At least, that is how I look at it.

THANK YOU! WE AGREE AGAIN! PRAISE BE TO SHINIGAMI!
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Ace on October 05, 2016, 03:26:54 AM
Then add a time limit?

Time frame to edit post is only 1 hour after. Any after that is DQ.

Here's the thing, no one knows how many times an edit was made. ;)
Once an edit is made, that time stamp clearly overrides the initial post time stamp.

Only practical solution, if people actually find it to be a problem, prohibit editing posts all together for the time being, or for any significant matches. These 5 min or 10 min edit limits do not solve the problem, because as this topic tries to address, it is the trust factor that is in question.

Time limits do not address the concern of the topic, the "problem" would still exist. That is *IF* members see it as a problem. I'm not advocating for limiting, disqualification, etc. ;)

I am simply explaining why a time limit, screenshots, etc. would not work, or address the nature of the topic. =)

The next step after discussions would probably be for the Council to vote.
Now, seeing as how this was not addressed before hand or seen as a potential problem, it will be difficult to implement this now, as it would be unfair to battles that have already started or ended. But, anything is possible if all parties agree. ^_^
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Eric on October 05, 2016, 03:33:14 AM
Ha, "new era of combatants". Zone fights in general on the forum have a history of occassional post editting, it's a perk here on the forum. Even some biju matches of the past permitted it, tentatively.

If combatants have an issue with it, then require the person to make a new post outlining what they would like to change, just like on SL (where post editting is impossible). An editted post can count as something or another depending on the guidelines set up prior to the match starting, ranging from disqualificaiton, to autohit, to a warning, whatever.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on October 05, 2016, 08:13:33 AM
I agree. Editing is bad. You don't do it.
Make another post if it is driving you insane right after with corrections...just like if you were posting on SL...the original is not gone, the new is there to be inserted in the correct place...and move on.

If ya'll spoke Kayentanese like you were supposed to, none of this would be an issue.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Eric on October 08, 2016, 05:41:09 AM
I agree. Editing is bad. You don't do it.
Make another post if it is driving you insane right after with corrections...just like if you were posting on SL...the original is not gone, the new is there to be inserted in the correct place...and move on.

If ya'll spoke Kayentanese like you were supposed to, none of this would be an issue.

But Erican is such a good read before and after the translation.  :P
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on October 08, 2016, 11:19:41 AM
Whereas Kayentanese 'trips' delightfully off the tongue conferring blessings upon the ears of all listeners.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Eric on October 08, 2016, 06:34:50 PM
I think we can agree that whether Erican or Kayentanese, editting official biju match posts should be a matter to be discussed before the match begins. If I were to be a biju host, I would permit it conditionally, while I am fairly certain that you would not allow it all.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on October 10, 2016, 01:21:11 PM
Considering that everyone is all SCREEEN SHOT THE WORLD, TRUST NO ONE...

yeah. no edits.
Title: Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
Post by: Teostra on October 10, 2016, 03:43:27 PM
Considering that everyone is all SCREEEN SHOT THE WORLD, TRUST NO ONE...
...Not even yourself.
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