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Title: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Ryumaru on October 19, 2007, 04:22:15 AM
Something Special!!

You stumble across a rickety old shack in the forest!

A>Check it out
B>Return to the forest


A>You push open the door and walk is side and stare at the half dozen boxes filled with scrolls.You look from your daze to see a skinny white haired shinobi standing infront of you.

Shinobi: "Hello,my name is Hatake Kakashi,the copy ninja of Konoha.
Over the years I have seen and copied many Jutsu and I recently decided to share my knowledge with my fellow shinobi.How ever my Jutsu are not meant for the weak,if you want to learn from these scrolls,youll have to prove yourself worthy by defeating me.


A>Fight with Kakashi
B>Take your leave

85% chance A-1  
15% chance A-2


A-1>You have encountered Hatake Kakashi  which lunges at you with Raikiri!
         You have encountered Hatake Kakashi Kage Bunshin  which lunges at you with Raikiri!

Hatake Kakashi's Hitpoints (Level 17): 6540
Hatake Kakashi Kage Bunshin Hitpoints (Level 17): 6540
YOUR Hitpoints: 3270

Doton Kuchiyose • Tsuiga no Jutsu!!!

Kakashi Summons his Ninja dogs,which burst forth from the ground and latch on to you!

You suffer 67 Points of damage from the dog bites!!
You suffer 55 Points of damage from the dog bites!!
You suffer 99 Points of damage from the dog bites!!
You suffer 86 Points of damage from the dog bites!!
You suffer 70 Points of damage from the dog bites!!

You can't move well because of the dogs!


Raikiri!
Kakashi's Bunshin starts to attack you faster than you imagined and hits you with his Raikiri!
Kenichi Ryumaru is hit by a brutal attack for 3300 damage!


End of Round:


Hatake Kakashi's Hitpoints (Level 17): 6540
Hatake Kakashi Kage Bunshin Hitpoints (Level 17): 6540
YOUR Hitpoints: Dead

Kakashi Stands over your beaten and tattered body.

"Im sorry but you are not worthy at this time,come back when you are stronger!!"


A-2> will result in a normal battle where victory is abit more...possible.

(after deafeting Kakashi)

Kakashi:Nicely done!,You are quite skilled indeed and you have truely shown yourself worthy of learning my jutsu.However this is my old shop,my new place just opened up in the Hidden Stone Village,so feel free to stop in.


Kakashi disapears in a cloud of leaves...



(after having beaten Kakashi and gained access)

>>>>>>>Kakashi's Jutsu Shop<<<<<<<<<<<<<



You slide the door open and walk into a massive store house filled with various scrolls,and as you look to the front desk you see Kakashi,the infamous copy ninja of Konoha.

Kakashi:" Hello there and welcome to my shop! Over the years I have seen and copied many Jutsu,so I decided to share my knowledge with my fellow shinobi. Take a look around and see if there are any jutsu youd like to learn.
A> Look at the scrolls
B>Train with Kakashi (after purchasing a scroll)

A> You walk through the thick jungle of scrolls,searching for new jutsu for your arsenal.



Suiton Scrolls

Kokuun no Jutsu-(Black Clouds Technique)
C Rank
Chakra lvl:9
You create a rain of flammable oil that ignites on the enemies
(3 rounds,mid damage)

Chance of availability:50%

Mizuame Nabara-(Starch Syrup Capture Field)
B Rank
Chakra lvl:11
You expel a sticky liquid from your gullet,covering the area.
(10 rounds DF boost)

Chance of availability:40%

Mizurappa -(Violent Water Wave)
B Rank
Chakra lvl:14
You expel a strong jet of water that surrounds your opponent!

(single shot,mid damage)

Chance of availability:35%


Mizu no Tatsumaki-(Water Tonadoe)
A Rank
Chakra lvl:17
You utilize the nearby water to create a spinning water vortex around yourself.

(9 rounds,High damage)

Chance of availability: 25%


Katon Scrolls:

Zukokku - Head Mincing Pain
S Rank
Chakra lvl:23

You focus a great amount of chakra and release an intence mass of flame that races across the ground towards the enemy.
(5 rounds,high damage but Does damage to the user equal to 25% of the users HP)(its S Ranked for a reason)

Chance of availability:15%


Raiton Scrolls:

Raikiri Nagashi
A Rank
Chakra lvl:20
You create multiple tendrill of electricity that suround you!
(4 rounds)

Chance of availability:25%



Raikiri Senbon
A Rank
Ckarka lvl:21
you focus lightning chakra in your hand,and release it in the form of needle like projectiles
(5 rounds)

Chance of availability:15%


Gian - False Darkness
S Rank
Chakra Lvl:25
You focus a fierce bolt of electricity,that devistates everything in its path!
(6 Rounds,high damage,but does damage equal to 10% of the users hp per round)

Chance of availability:10%

Fuuton Scrolls:

Daitoppa-(Great Breakthrough)
C Rank
Chakra Needed- 12

Raising your hand to your mouth,you blow a large blast of wind leveling almost everything in its way.
(single shot)
Chance of availability:50%


Reppushou-(Gale Wind Palm)
B Rank
Chakra lvl:14
You send a strong gust of wind towards your enemy.

(4 rounds)
Chance of availability:25%



Atsugai-(preasure Damage)
S rank
Chakra needed-25
Focusing your chakra to a near dangerous level,you release a devistaing blast of wind from your mouth,leveling everything in its wake!

(5 rounds,does damage to the user equal to 20% of the users HP per round)

Chance of availability:10%


Doton Scrolls:

Dochuu Eigyo-(Underground Fish Projection)
C Rank
Chakra Lvl:6
Having confused your enemy with clones,you launch your attack from under ground!
(4 rounds,DF boost)
Chance of availability:75%

Doryuu Taiga-(moving land river)
B Rank
Chakra Lvl:9
You transform the ground into a river of mud,which is sent crashing down towards your opponent!
(4 rounds)
Chance of availability:50%

Yomi Numa-(Swamp of the Underworld)
B Rank
Chakra Lvl:11
You transform the land into a trick swamp that sucks your opponent down!
(4 rounds)

Chance of availability:35%


Scroll Pricing:
C rank- 15,000-40,000 gold, 30-50 gems
B Rank- 50,000-75,000 gold, 60-100 gems
A Rank- 100,000-200,000 Gold, 100- 150 gems
S Rank- 200,000+ Gold, 150- 250 gems


B>Training

You grab your scroll and Kakashi guides you out back of the shop to begin training.

Kakashi:So you wish to Learn  Fuuton:Atsugai  well it wont be easy,youll have to work for this jutsu.

How many turns do you wish to devote to training today?


Turn minimum for learning Jutsu:

C Rank-25

B Rank-50

A Rank-75

S Rank-100

(upon meeting the turn requirement)

Kakashi:Alright,you have met the training goal for learning this jutsu,now lets see if you have truely mastered it!

Fight-

You have encountered Hatake Kakashi which lunges at you with Raikiri!
*Kakashi's Hitpoints (Level 17): 6500
YOUR Hitpoints: 3298


Fuuton Ninjutsu (Wind) (30/30 points)-
• Kaze no Yoroi (1)
• Kamaitachi no Jutsu (3)
• Kaze Kiri (6)
• Daikamaitachi no Jutsu (10)
• Kaze no Yaiba (15)
• Fuuton - Tatsu no Oshigoto (18)
• Fuuton - Atsugai (25)

(All Jutsu have a 60% chance of Failure,40% chance of success)

(S Rank Jutsu have a 80% chance of failure,20% chance of success,and a 40% chance of dying from the attempt)

(upon failing)

Your Attemp fails and your jutsu is an an utter embarassment!

Kakashi:That is no good! You need to devote some more time to perfecting this...

(Upon Failing an S rank Jutsu)

Your attempt fails and your jutsu erupts into an uncontrolable maelstrom of chakra and (insert elemental adverb). When the dust clears, body lies devistated from the awesome force of the the blast....your dead!
)

All Jutsu are Permanent and,after you learn them,will be usuable after DKs!!!

HOWEVER,inorder to use them you must:
A) have the proper speciality to use them(if you learn a fuuton jutsu,and kill oro,you must choose fuuton again in order to use the jutsu again)
B) have the required number of skill points

(jutsu scroll and training concept was previously mentiontion by Uchihabeast)
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: czarguy on October 19, 2007, 04:29:00 AM
This sounds like one of my ideas (Sasukes Gym,INos Flower shop,Shizunes beauty parlor.... :evil:) Hmmmm its definitely got some thought in it but im not sure I like it espicially the scrolls part.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Kyosuke on October 19, 2007, 05:37:54 AM
Guys (and you know who you are). Seriously. You need to plan out your ideas a little more before you post them. "Chidori Senbon"? As far as I know, we don't even have "Chidori" programmed into the game yet. Do you understand that the Staff would be required to create entirely new Jutsu for this? It's unthinkable. I'd like to point out the other flaws to this, but I'm going to spare you this time. Come on. The level tweny-five Raiton Jutsu?

I see great devotion; but at the same time little planning and logic. That's my take on it.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Ryumaru on October 19, 2007, 05:46:59 AM
you're right about the chidori thing,allow me to correct it to suit the current rai ninjutsu list


and besides these are more for kage+ lvl people,and a lvl 25 Rai...its not really that illogical (a 5 lvl difference isnt much)
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Jin on October 19, 2007, 06:08:03 AM
I liked your idea, I think that you should put a little description in all the jutsus that we can learn.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Uchihabeast on October 19, 2007, 07:32:53 AM
This is my Idea you made into this -.-;
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Gaara_Sand_burial on October 19, 2007, 12:16:45 PM
I like it <.<;
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Uchihabeast on October 19, 2007, 12:56:23 PM
Dude.. -.- I made this into the Hidden jutsu scroll.. same THING!
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: czarguy on October 19, 2007, 02:03:42 PM
This is based off me and uchihas idea...my ideas are usually _______ (INsert naruto name) _______(INsert place name) and this is also based off uchihas hidden scroll idea :evil:...originality is a plus!  :roll:
Have you thought about what any of these new moves would do?
What about after a dk does it disappear?
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Uchihabeast on October 19, 2007, 02:48:21 PM
This is based off me and uchihas idea...my ideas are usually _______ (INsert naruto name) _______(INsert place name) and this is also based off uchihas hidden scroll idea :evil:...originality is a plus!  :roll:
Have you thought about what any of these new moves would do?
What about after a dk does it disappear?

Yeah! I agree!

My Jutsu scroll Event was, Buy and Train (Like a Dwelling) and Keep the Jutsu! Like:

*Randomly*
Kage Bunshin No Jutsu, (Random Gem and Gold), Turns: (Something)

And you Would keep it!

SO, Mr. Theif!
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: czarguy on October 19, 2007, 02:52:06 PM
You done did it now ryumaru...now uchiha is mad  :twisted:
Besides...I believe Neji is working on something along these lines  :?:
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Uchihabeast on October 19, 2007, 02:59:35 PM
 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Idea stealer.... >:]
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: czarguy on October 19, 2007, 03:08:03 PM
O.o Thats alot of evil faces! You feeling ok uchiha?
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Gaara_Sand_burial on October 19, 2007, 03:12:15 PM
Oh lay off it you two -_-;
He might not even have seen your threads  :roll:
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: czarguy on October 19, 2007, 03:14:16 PM
 :twisted:
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Ryumaru on October 19, 2007, 03:58:04 PM
Uchiha: Really? where was your thread? I havent seen anything like this before. (AND it kinda hard not to use scrolls,its not like kakashi is going to send you a text message telling you how to learn it.)

czarguy - your shops,from what ive seen, give out charm and AT/DF,and youve requested a few different new spec.....however...mine request jutsu that go with the current speciality,that will be a bit more unique to each person.

All the jutsu are permanent,ou only need to have the req. speciality and skill points.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: czarguy on October 19, 2007, 05:15:48 PM
I was just kidding cause it sounds like an event i might make up just from looking at the title...but yes uchiha did make a topic similar to this...
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Uchihabeast on October 19, 2007, 06:22:25 PM
Uchiha: Really? where was your thread? I havent seen anything like this before. (AND it kinda hard not to use scrolls,its not like kakashi is going to send you a text message telling you how to learn it.)

czarguy - your shops,from what ive seen, give out charm and AT/DF,and youve requested a few different new spec.....however...mine request jutsu that go with the current speciality,that will be a bit more unique to each person.

All the jutsu are permanent,ou only need to have the req. speciality and skill points.

Use the search. -.-;
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Baluski on October 19, 2007, 06:37:40 PM
Uchiha: Really? where was your thread? I havent seen anything like this before. (AND it kinda hard not to use scrolls,its not like kakashi is going to send you a text message telling you how to learn it.)

czarguy - your shops,from what ive seen, give out charm and AT/DF,and youve requested a few different new spec.....however...mine request jutsu that go with the current speciality,that will be a bit more unique to each person.

All the jutsu are permanent,ou only need to have the req. speciality and skill points.

Use the search. -.-;

You mean this?

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,3207.0.html (http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,3207.0.html)

You can't really get angry at him seeing as he actually put some thought into it besides just writing a few lines.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Ryumaru on October 19, 2007, 06:40:28 PM
Uchiha: Really? where was your thread? I havent seen anything like this before. (AND it kinda hard not to use scrolls,its not like kakashi is going to send you a text message telling you how to learn it.)

czarguy - your shops,from what ive seen, give out charm and AT/DF,and youve requested a few different new spec.....however...mine request jutsu that go with the current speciality,that will be a bit more unique to each person.

All the jutsu are permanent,ou only need to have the req. speciality and skill points.

Use the search. -.-;

hmm...wow ya did,thats weird..haha. ..:shock:

well ill put in that you previously stated this concept then.

Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Uchihabeast on October 19, 2007, 06:56:32 PM
Uchiha: Really? where was your thread? I havent seen anything like this before. (AND it kinda hard not to use scrolls,its not like kakashi is going to send you a text message telling you how to learn it.)

czarguy - your shops,from what ive seen, give out charm and AT/DF,and youve requested a few different new spec.....however...mine request jutsu that go with the current speciality,that will be a bit more unique to each person.

All the jutsu are permanent,ou only need to have the req. speciality and skill points.

Use the search. -.-;

hmm...wow ya did,thats weird..haha. ..:shock:

well ill put in that you previously stated this concept then.



Yes. :P

*Inner Kazy. <_<;* SHANNAROOOOOOO!!!!!


<<;
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Aid on October 19, 2007, 09:55:16 PM
Godzilla!!

Sounds sweet Ryu
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Kyosuke on October 19, 2007, 10:11:21 PM
Uchiha, you can't compare his idea with "yours". -.-;

Alright Ryu, my friend... Lets take a closer look at this. In my first post I mentioned that there wasn't very much "Planning", so to speak, but there was great "Devotion". Now what I mean is that you had the right idea, and you put a lot of heart into it, but little structure and elaboration. For example, you don't specify just how this system is going to work. Is it your general idea that the Jutsu should be permanent? Or do you think they should merely last for a certain amount of Dragon Kills? Because for the cost of one of the S-Rank Jutsu, I really, really would not want to merely forget it after killing Orochimaru. At least not after one kill. >_>

So with a little more elaboration and some more refinement (Raikiri is still essentially Chidori  :roll: ) I think this could actually be an exciting project (after the Kekkei Genkai), providing it comes across in the right way. I have to give you my props.


Edit#1 regarding Czarguy:
 
This is indeed based off uchiha's idea  :roll:
ANd what would these jutsus do? we are yet to find that out and also can you use them even if your specialty doesnt correspond with the scroll you buy

Um, no, it isn't. He apparently didn't see her post, which makes it "loosely" based at that the most.  ;)

I'm sure all of that good damage stuff can be decided with the Staff, anyway. What I want to know are the general statistics.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: czarguy on October 19, 2007, 10:13:08 PM
This is indeed based off uchiha's idea  :roll:
ANd what would these jutsus do? we are yet to find that out and also can you use them even if your specialty doesnt correspond with the scroll you buy
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Ryumaru on October 19, 2007, 10:39:36 PM
This is indeed based off uchiha's idea  :roll:
ANd what would these jutsus do? we are yet to find that out and also can you use them even if your specialty doesnt correspond with the scroll you buy
I posted decriptions of the techniques
and no,it wouldnt make much sence to be able to use a fuuton jutsu if your speciality is doton,would it?


Kyosuke: Yes,Raikiri is esentially chidori,(potential spoiler?) but that doesnt change the fact that we still have it under rai ninjutsu,so if they dont see fit to use the forms of raikiri(chidori) that I listed,I could always replace them with some other Raiton jutsu.
And sorry for not mentioning the permanence of the jutsu,i thought I stated that,but appearently didnt.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Mihazi on October 19, 2007, 11:22:11 PM
I was just kidding cause it sounds like an event i might make up just from looking at the title...but yes uchiha did make a topic similar to this...
Even if you're kidding, you didn't do anything, so you don't get any credit.

Uchiha: Really? where was your thread? I havent seen anything like this before. (AND it kinda hard not to use scrolls,its not like kakashi is going to send you a text message telling you how to learn it.)

czarguy - your shops,from what ive seen, give out charm and AT/DF,and youve requested a few different new spec.....however...mine request jutsu that go with the current speciality,that will be a bit more unique to each person.

All the jutsu are permanent,ou only need to have the req. speciality and skill points.

Use the search. -.-;

You mean this?

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,3207.0.html (http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,3207.0.html)

You can't really get angry at him seeing as he actually put some thought into it besides just writing a few lines.

I agree. Ryu's idea is coincidence, Uchihabeast.
I didn't even remember that thread until I read it.
But Uchihabeast deserves some kind of credit, which she got.

Uchiha, you can't compare his idea with "yours". -.-;

Alright Ryu, my friend... Lets take a closer look at this. In my first post I mentioned that there wasn't very much "Planning", so to speak, but there was great "Devotion". Now what I mean is that you had the right idea, and you put a lot of heart into it, but little structure and elaboration. For example, you don't specify just how this system is going to work. Is it your general idea that the Jutsu should be permanent? Or do you think they should merely last for a certain amount of Dragon Kills? Because for the cost of one of the S-Rank Jutsu, I really, really would not want to merely forget it after killing Orochimaru. At least not after one kill. >_>

So with a little more elaboration and some more refinement (Raikiri is still essentially Chidori  :roll: ) I think this could actually be an exciting project (after the Kekkei Genkai), providing it comes across in the right way. I have to give you my props.


Edit#1 regarding Czarguy:
 
This is indeed based off uchiha's idea  :roll:
ANd what would these jutsus do? we are yet to find that out and also can you use them even if your specialty doesnt correspond with the scroll you buy

Um, no, it isn't. He apparently didn't see her post, which makes it "loosely" based at that the most.  ;)

I'm sure all of that good damage stuff can be decided with the Staff, anyway. What I want to know are the general statistics.
As for Kyosuke, Ryu's idea is planned out. More than most.
Things that are left out are easy to assume, but do need clarification. Put things in writing.

Chidori is not Raikiri.
Raikiri > Chidori. Raikiri is S rank and Chidori is A rank.
It's like comparing Bunshin to Kage Bunshin.
Same idea, but difference in power.

Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: czarguy on October 20, 2007, 12:43:41 AM
I didnt want any credit I simply stated that it looked like an event id make...nowhere in there does it say anything about me wanting credit so please dont put words in my mouth mihazi....
And why are you guys assuming I dont like this? i actually like it quite abit but i know jutsus coming from scrolls has already been discussed.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on October 20, 2007, 01:27:58 AM
Look at the date of this thread,

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,1151.0.html

It originated from my idea ._.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: czarguy on October 20, 2007, 01:34:48 AM
hehe veryone wants credit for it! :D
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Samantha on October 20, 2007, 01:50:56 AM
Look at the date of this thread,

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,1151.0.html

It originated from my idea ._.
I got to say, I remember this, when it was up.  I liked Gyu's idea back then, and if applicable I would still like it now.  However, the point is the idea, which we could easily see was first processed by Gyu. It is fitting that Gyu thought at that time, that people in general would not want or need jutsus after her and all the coders hard work, and Neji stated that it's human nature to be greedy. The thing about Gyu is that she's not out for glory, she wants to improve the game play for everyone. So it doesn't matter who came up with the individual idea, or if it was a team effort, as long as it is created with everyone in mind.   

Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Eureka7 on October 20, 2007, 01:57:21 AM
Gimme a break there was a reason why whole idea fell apart.  It wasn't any good back then and it still is not good now! :-x
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: czarguy on October 20, 2007, 02:10:33 AM
Gimme a break there was a reason why whole idea fell apart.  It wasn't any good back then and it still is not good now! :-x
Geez don't be to harsh! :)
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Mihazi on October 20, 2007, 02:51:36 AM
I didnt want any credit I simply stated that it looked like an event id make...nowhere in there does it say anything about me wanting credit so please dont put words in my mouth mihazi....
And why are you guys assuming I dont like this? i actually like it quite abit but i know jutsus coming from scrolls has already been discussed.

Look at the bold/enlarged part below.
This is based off me and uchihas idea...my ideas are usually _______ (INsert naruto name) _______(INsert place name) and this is also based off uchihas hidden scroll idea :evil:...originality is a plus!  :roll:
Have you thought about what any of these new moves would do?
What about after a dk does it disappear?

Sorry if I put words in your mouth, but it seemed implied.
Otherwise, saying it sounds like your ideas is meaningless.

Look at the date of this thread,

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,1151.0.html

It originated from my idea ._.
I got to say, I remember this, when it was up.  I liked Gyu's idea back then, and if applicable I would still like it now.  However, the point is the idea, which we could easily see was first processed by Gyu. It is fitting that Gyu thought at that time, that people in general would not want or need jutsus after her and all the coders hard work, and Neji stated that it's human nature to be greedy. The thing about Gyu is that she's not out for glory, she wants to improve the game play for everyone. So it doesn't matter who came up with the individual idea, or if it was a team effort, as long as it is created with everyone in mind.  

I was not around when that topic was started.
Gyu's version is less powerful, cheaper, and harder to learn.

If this store is in stone only hokages and up will have access, so not many sitters will get Ryu's version.
Sitters benefit the most from chakra/jutsus, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: czarguy on October 20, 2007, 03:43:54 AM
Well i'm sorry for the confusion...what i MEANT to say is that the title sounds like an event based off some of mine (just look through them youll see a pattern) :roll: :D
Why dont we all get past the who made it thing? who cares? it started off as a joke and ended in drama...as usual...
would these scrolls be uber powerful? i wouldnt mind having something uber powerful to beat oro with... :D
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: behrle on October 20, 2007, 06:43:25 AM
to be honest i love the detail, and it doesn't look impossible but just hard enough to have to earn it, it looks like a really good idea no matter whos it is
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Ryumaru on October 20, 2007, 07:21:24 AM
to be honest i love the detail, and it doesn't look impossible but just hard enough to have to earn it, it looks like a really good idea no matter whos it is
Really? I was thinking that it was too easy,maybe I should make it a bit more difficult....hows about 5 or 6 or 20 Kakashi clones and maybe a few more requirements....
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Jin on October 20, 2007, 07:27:30 AM
to be honest i love the detail, and it doesn't look impossible but just hard enough to have to earn it, it looks like a really good idea no matter whos it is
Really? I was thinking that it was too easy,maybe I should make it a bit more difficult....hows about 5 or 6 or 20 Kakashi clones and maybe a few more requirements....

Depending on the rank you could add more clones, making it a bit more difficult, or you can add a fight against Kakashi using his mangkyou sharingan.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Mihazi on October 20, 2007, 09:16:07 AM
Yes, make the opportunity difficult and the jutsu costly to learn because that makes it more unique and more rewarding.
Probably gives the penguin a better chance of living?

Just brainstorming here...

When you check out the shack, there is a chance you don't see Kakashi.

To get rid of actuallly making scroll items if there need be?
Instead of buying scrolls, you pay Kakashi to teach you a jutsu.
Instead of a projection of Kakashi, you train with Kakashi at his shop.

If these scrolls actually become items you activate, they can be destroyed! :shock:
The item is not perishable/one-time use. I hope I could resell them. <<

Seeing higher ranked scrolls are rare. Think something along the lines of mounts.
And/or you only see scrolls that match your current specialty, and having the corresponding specialty is needed/not needed for the training.
The shop would have the option, 'I see you have a affinity for _____(Element). I can teach/sell you these jutsus/scrolls."
I don't like the idea that I need a certain specialty to see/learn certain scrolls, but just a thought to make it harder.
But might be needed if you are to get into a real spar fight with Kakashi, read on...

After you buy it and are done training it with turns, you have to test it by using it.
I'm guessing Kakashi will tell you when you've learned the jutsu (Projection asks you to test it at Kakashi's shop).
Jutsu can't be used yet.
You test it by sparring with Kakashi. Could be a real fight so the chakra cost/specialty is required to test it.
I want this to cost chakra as well but maybe not a good idea, so no elaboration...
I'd prefer it to just tell the outcome. This could get evil...
Like the jutsu backfires and kills you.
It backfires but doesn't kill you, but instead disfigures you and you lose hp/charm/turns/etc.
The jutsu simply fails.
Kakashi accidentally kills you.
You pulled the jutsu off perfectly.
If it fails then you must wait until the next game day to test it again.
Test one jutsu a game day.
If you died, I guess you may resurrect and try again.
You keep on testing it until it works meaning you've mastered it.
You may choose to keep training it before testing it again. Maybe the chance to pull it off will increase?

An expanded structure for the shop would be needed besides just the jutsus for some of the ideas.
If no scroll, just add 'Which jutsu would you like to train?' option.
For the last idea, 'Ah, you've finished your training, which jutsu do want to test in a spar with me?'
Something like that.

I know I did not add percentages for the outcomes.
Not really sure about how you'd program that.

A little off topic, but the thought of making your own original jutsu came to mind when reading the thread Gyu pulled up, but I see that the idea has already been mentioned.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Ryumaru on October 20, 2007, 08:47:23 PM
Yes, make the opportunity difficult and the jutsu costly to learn because that makes it more unique and more rewarding.
Probably gives the penguin a better chance of living?

Just brainstorming here...

When you check out the shack, there is a chance you don't see Kakashi.

To get rid of actuallly making scroll items if there need be?
Instead of buying scrolls, you pay Kakashi to teach you a jutsu.
Instead of a projection of Kakashi, you train with Kakashi at his shop.

If these scrolls actually become items you activate, they can be destroyed! :shock:
The item is not perishable/one-time use. I hope I could resell them. <<

Seeing higher ranked scrolls are rare. Think something along the lines of mounts.
And/or you only see scrolls that match your current specialty, and having the corresponding specialty is needed/not needed for the training.
The shop would have the option, 'I see you have a affinity for _____(Element). I can teach/sell you these jutsus/scrolls."
I don't like the idea that I need a certain specialty to see/learn certain scrolls, but just a thought to make it harder.
But might be needed if you are to get into a real spar fight with Kakashi, read on...

After you buy it and are done training it with turns, you have to test it by using it.
I'm guessing Kakashi will tell you when you've learned the jutsu (Projection asks you to test it at Kakashi's shop).
Jutsu can't be used yet.
You test it by sparring with Kakashi. Could be a real fight so the chakra cost/specialty is required to test it.
I want this to cost chakra as well but maybe not a good idea, so no elaboration...
I'd prefer it to just tell the outcome. This could get evil...
Like the jutsu backfires and kills you.
It backfires but doesn't kill you, but instead disfigures you and you lose hp/charm/turns/etc.
The jutsu simply fails.
Kakashi accidentally kills you.
You pulled the jutsu off perfectly.
If it fails then you must wait until the next game day to test it again.
Test one jutsu a game day.
If you died, I guess you may resurrect and try again.
You keep on testing it until it works meaning you've mastered it.
You may choose to keep training it before testing it again. Maybe the chance to pull it off will increase?

An expanded structure for the shop would be needed besides just the jutsus for some of the ideas.
If no scroll, just add 'Which jutsu would you like to train?' option.
For the last idea, 'Ah, you've finished your training, which jutsu do want to test in a spar with me?'
Something like that.

I know I did not add percentages for the outcomes.
Not really sure about how you'd program that.

A little off topic, but the thought of making your own original jutsu came to mind when reading the thread Gyu pulled up, but I see that the idea has already been mentioned.


thanks for the tip,ill have to figure a way to add it in.
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: kboogi on October 22, 2007, 05:28:33 AM
Good concept ryubooger, perhaps after Neji may be able to "spin" this a little on whats to come.

As far as this "credit" for this & that, it is not the time or place. Spamming about it over & over again isn't the solution. If it really means that much to you, discuss it privately with the individual - we can always edit the thread subject if need be, or merge topics also.
 ;)
 
Title: Re: Kakashi's Jutsu Shop
Post by: Neji on October 22, 2007, 11:34:48 AM
ok.

I thought about a "shop" for it, and will add "basic" jutsus here, also maybe some others, but let's start from the bottom pit.

the first: kage bunhin.
I wanted to have it ingame, but had no place where to let it learn. now we have =)