Shinobi Legends Forum
Roleplay => Village Square => Topic started by: Chika on March 31, 2012, 08:09:35 PM
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Although it's highly unnecessary for those who log in to SL for things other than Roleplay, Some people like me mainly log in to Roleplay initially...
Summonings is a standard issue I see. People like Kay and Yūmei who hold official summoning contracts should not have to deal with others [Who are serious about Roleplay] forging their contacts. I see a way around this that is used by Rare currently. He has the dragon summoning scroll and has signatures on such that gives those a contract for the latter w/ the exception of Toads. If Those who hold official summoning contracts want to do so that's fine, but I think a list should be made officially for Summonings.
I hold the official contract for Primapes, and whoever knows most of them, such as Kay, should place the list here for all to see.
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I very well see your point, however, some scroll owners just complain in general while not doing anything about it. In order to maintain a copyright on a scroll of sorts one needs to enforce such, just like how you're bound to have 100 pms that either explain you why what your doing is wrong or just cuss at you like a drunk pirate. xD But yeah, if you don't enforce it your bound to have a bunch of people running around with it.
I mean look at Tomi! He was so pestering about his hirashin in regards to those that did not learn it from him or those he taught it.... (goes on and on) that he managed to copyright a cannon jutsu.
But there are some issues here, several summons exist in regards to which we just can't know for sure who they really belong to as several old players claim them. Take the crows for example:
We can probably know Boc is not a legitimate user since he claims it since when? 1? 2 years? But there are several vets claiming it also.
Perhaps if we organized a tourney for scrolls with unclear holders.
Another issue is idiots claiming it even after approached by the actual holder... well it's just like people putting kg they don't have in their bio and refusing to change it.
The Narutoprofile site, managed by Yūmei already has a copyright list. Site which I am currently trying to convince Neji to put up as a sister site.
Of course, someone can put up summons he has no right to as copyright, however, Yumei has vast knowledge over summons and the alike, and if not there are enough people that would point him out that someone is making fake claims. For example, someone tried to claim lightning dragons and was removed for obvious reasons.
===Dragon scroll contractors(chronological order)===
JinEchizen
Tetsujin
Mei
Rares(current scroll holder)
Eric
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That would be wonderful if Neji did such, but Yūmei would have to be more active than he is now to keep up to date for those possessing official contracts. I will try and gather a list of active people that Roleplay to provide to Yūmei, but for those who are already reading this, should put their summoning as a reply.
If a dispute comes before a summoning, it would have to be dealt with by the council.
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<-- Crickets!
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Forgot to care about the thread; just saw 'summonings' and decided to post mine.
Any how:
A tournament for summoning contracts.. no. I mean, I understand where you're coming from, "Chika", but, as you have said, this is really unneeded. You can't prevent people from claiming your things -- as it is, you can't even guarantee someone's RP-background doesn't include that certain summoning. What if it's a direct essence to their character? Who are we to deny that person something they worked hard on simply because we want it for ourselves? I mean, as it is, right now, everything is a claim fest. The moment something new comes out in the anime/manga is the moment someone claims it as first and snarls at the second person like a rabid hound.
This game has been around for many years, and so have many of the people within it -- that said, I've seen summoners come and go, old summons brought back up and, etc. happen. Not something one needs to control nor can control, for that matter.
Lastly, Yumei's site, as forsaken as it is by the majority of people, does show a bit of bias in it; I can't really say much as, just about, everything does. But, in short, I point that out in my offense against this to say: what if the person with that contract doesn't want to *share*? Who's going to make them do it? What if someone else wants it? Etc. What if someone who has ties with the site claims something after someone sort-of unknown does? They'll believe the site over the person because of credibility. Such as the fact that lots of people say they have Totsuka blade, but Yumei states that Mioku (last time I checked) had it. Zyeta had it before him; did Zyeta just give it to him? And, even if he did, what about when something else new (overpowered.jpg) comes out? Do we message Yumei as a first-come first-serve or can he choose? Etc.
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All very good points, yes, if someone wants to claim something that's already supposed to be claimed such as, Snakes, it can be from someone's background.
It doesn't have to be awknowledged though, such as Kay not doing so to the canon Suigetsu when it attacked Kirigakure and she played NPC's until they got on.
Regarding the signage of the contracts, if someone decides someone isn't worthy enough or that he/she wants it for themselves only, the council has (or should have in my opinion) the right to override such. You can always contact (?) amount of people from the council to fix such a thing.
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What council is everyone talking about?
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What council is everyone talking about?
I believe they're referring to the Bijuu council, but I could be wrong.
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Bijuu Council.
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Bijuu Council.
That's the only council there is.
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I mean it as this:
It's a council for bijuu, why have them govern summonings..?
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I mean it as this:
It's a council for bijuu, why have them govern summonings..?
I'unno, ask them. I was merely pointing out that they were most likely referring to that council. If you ask me, I believe that council should cover every thing, even things such as this.
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Then we need to expand on who we have.
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Then we need to expand on who we have.
I don't even know the current people in the council aside from Kayenta. I believe it's also all the 'Kages and Jinchuriki, correct?
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Lastly, Yumei's site, as forsaken as it is by the majority of people, does show a bit of bias in it; I can't really say much as, just about, everything does. But, in short, I point that out in my offense against this to say: what if the person with that contract doesn't want to *share*? Who's going to make them do it? What if someone else wants it? Etc. What if someone who has ties with the site claims something after someone sort-of unknown does? They'll believe the site over the person because of credibility. Such as the fact that lots of people say they have Totsuka blade, but Yumei states that Mioku (last time I checked) had it. Zyeta had it before him; did Zyeta just give it to him? And, even if he did, what about when something else new (overpowered.jpg) comes out? Do we message Yumei as a first-come first-serve or can he choose? Etc.
It helps when people make suggestions instead of criticisms, after all, each and every one of our mindsets is unique. :)
Zyeta dropped his claim over the Sword of Totsuka after Mioku revealed that Enishi had [somehow] obtained it soon after it made it appearance in the manga (so, about a couple of years ago).
I have compiled a list here (http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/The_Copyrighted) of canon 'items' which have been claimed by players, and is edited by players. Although I do admit, that it isn't entirely up-to-date, as not everybody who have claimed to be the sole (or branch) possessor have contacted myself in-game so that the list can be updated.
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each and every one of our mindsets is unique
You see suggestions more of help rather than criticism.
and is edited by players
contacted myself in-game so that the list can be updated.
I thought it could be edited by them? I'm confused now.
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each and every one of our mindsets is unique
You see suggestions more of help rather than criticism.
Indeed. Criticisms would only help when they're elaborated on, simply saying that the wikia's biased is a rather vague perspective.
and is edited by players
contacted myself in-game so that the list can be updated.
I thought it could be edited by them? I'm confused now.
I do suppose this then: Only [logged in] members of the wikia may edit the page, as the page's source code is locked so as to prevent vandalism (which has been done in the past) to it. Should anybody from SL wish to have a claim added to the list, yet not wish to join the wikia for personal reasons, then they should contact myself (or any other registered user) for the deed to be done.
I do admit though, that my previous post was rather vague. :-|
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I tend to pm people who claim the snakes and if they are combative to me in return I let it go. Those who see my claim as legit remove their own.
But...avoiding names here...if I have to behave a certain way in order to establish the claims I make?
Well I am not going to do that. I will walk the streets bare of everything before I harass someone to death and make a total pain of myself to anyone.
I RP the way I do as I am. If people do not care for my claims, they are free to RP with someone else. It concerns me not.
As for that canon Jutsu that was claimed? Hobby Gobby reverse engineered it and now it is available to all who care to read "flash step for dummies" that can be obtained for free from the author himself by anyone. This was accomplished through legit RP and I stand by the claim.
I Should like to caution everyone...
Too many rules and you will kill all the fun!
I know of at least 6 people who claim snakes now. I approached each. WE had our few pms, and that was the end of it. 4 of those still claim them and I could care less. I am not going around and harassing these people and spoiling a good time here for them as well as myself.
And that's about all I have to say about it.
As Kay said above...all of these claims and rules; you will start to see a decline is actual good roleplayers on the site.
I will not associate myself with "Copyrighted" because more and more copyrighted items will just hinder roleplay together.
Besides if I wanted to make claims, I would do so right now and make everyone's claims invalid by compiling a list of items I myself have copyrighted and which, some people on SL decided to make it their own.
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I will not associate myself with "Copyrighted" because more and more copyrighted items will just hinder roleplay together.
Besides if I wanted to make claims, I would do so right now and make everyone's claims invalid by compiling a list of items I myself have copyrighted and which, some people on SL decided to make it their own.
Do it anyway. :twisted:
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Do eeet.
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I've an idea. Photoshop a scroll, then put your character's sign on it. It wouldn't stop anyone from claiming a contract on their own, but it would sure make yours a hell lot cooler and more official than theirs. If you want to add someone on it, I would suggest asking them to make a sign with invisible background on photoshop and send it to you so that you can add it onto your summoning scroll.
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>.> I would really like to know how many years Kay has had the Primeape scroll...
If anyone did that photoshop trick just to be a holder or place their signature on it, I'd just let them have their way because it's really not that serious.
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Well, at least it would make you and those who share the contract feel special 8)
(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s394/QQcloud/SummoningContractfoxsample.gif)
Note: The text reads "Kiu" which translate to Qiu (a.k.a Q), and the horrible handwriting is intentional.
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I'm really liking this Quest fella.
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I'm really liking this Quest fella.
Agreed
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Wait, ask me what?
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Do tell me if you guys want a summoning contract scroll. I've a blank one (without the tiny foxes, sign, and "fox contract") saved.
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I never gave you the ape one, just gave up the rights to the snakes. The ape one was left in the air after I got rid of the character some year+ ago.
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Q shall claim both the title of Raikage (once he has enough DK) and the ape contract! :twisted:
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I did wonder where the liver you feed me last night came from...
Still, it was delicious with the fried beer battered onions. :D
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Didn't you see me!?
I rode upon that fool creature's back!
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Update.
I gave the snake scroll to Mariko on 05-05-12.
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Validate your summoning contract: http://slsociety.smfforfree3.com/index.php/board,195.0.html
Figure that SLS can be at least try to be useful by validating such information for other roleplayers to see. You guys may know who is the valid holder of what summoning scrolls, but players like myself has no idea what have been laid claim or not.
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Yumei has something like this on his wikia (of which many apparently despise), but hey, redundancy-factor.
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yep
http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/The_Claimed#Summoning_Contracts
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yep
http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/The_Claimed#Summoning_Contracts
I like the techniques list there, I'm not on the list of Hiraishin users, Mangetsu is still listed as having Edo Tensei and why on earth does Yumei have Creation of All Things? I would think that an ability that lets you do apparently anything would be considered god mod.
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The fact that it hasn't been revealed how the technique can be used (besides splitting chakra entities, which we've already ruled as forbidden) would mean that he can't use it as of yet. I have a feeling though it'll be used by some person, probably Mr. Penultimate-God Tobi upon using some jutsu that'll make him one.
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yep
http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/The_Claimed#Summoning_Contracts
I like the techniques list there, I'm not on the list of Hiraishin users, Mangetsu is still listed as having Edo Tensei and why on earth does Yumei have Creation of All Things? I would think that an ability that lets you do apparently anything would be considered god mod.
PM Yumei to update things, and don't ask me questions I can't answer >__> mainly cause he underhandedly makes claims and never tells anyone so you have to check his narutoprofile page just to see what he claims.
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PM Yumei to update things, and don't ask me questions I can't answer >__> mainly cause he underhandedly makes claims and never tells anyone so you have to check his narutoprofile page just to see what he claims.
As far as SLS goes: we don't have to pm anyone to update anything. It's there, it's easy to add [a basic template was already provided], and it's low on calories.
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The fact that it hasn't been revealed how the technique can be used (besides splitting chakra entities, which we've already ruled as forbidden) would mean that he can't use it as of yet. I have a feeling though it'll be used by some person, probably Mr. Penultimate-God Tobi upon using some jutsu that'll make him one.
Isn't the definition of the jutsu that you can turn imagination into reality? That seems a little moddish.
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Same goes for Izanagi. All we know about it is that its user can escape death at the expense of their eye(s), despite being considered a lesser form of the CoaT. And hence that's all it's used for. The CoaT, all we know it can be used for at the present, is to split the Ten-Tails into nine components. Yumei can't do even that, seeing how we have an imposed-rule forbidding that (or the reverse-effect). Hence he can't do anything with the technique, until Kishi decides to reveal its other uses.
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*cough cough* that has nothing to do with summonings, so take that elsewhere
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No point in claiming it, then. Except for, of course, dibbs on something.
Any-which-way-north-of-the-south-poleeeeeeeeeeeee:
SLS is a lot easier on both Yumei and the community. Likewise, it's not mandatory to do; I fail to see why we're obligated to post a claim somewhere. Nonetheless, I don't think there's anything else to discuss here.
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Probably just so nobody else could.
But anyway, this topic's lost its purpose, and will probably be locked up within the next 24 hours.
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Just posting this remainder for you... :oops:
These "discussions" are not getting anywhere.
Other topics probably will be locked as well.
Members will begin to receive warnings if required.
I just received a "forum petition" per say, and with the recent posts and more, topic is locked.
Members, anyone who feels that they are contributing to the mess, may send me a message once they think
they are able to engage in a discussion which will not target, but learn to move forward.
YES, pointing out possible flaws of people, fixing past mistakes, does help...
Addressing the issues first does help... but only if done in a proper manner, and provided that the people involved are willing to adapt and change.
And noticing how a lot of people might be stubborn, time to take a break.