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Roleplay => Village Square => Topic started by: Keito Uzumaki on February 27, 2015, 10:50:32 PM
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Prior to joining SL I saw that there wasn't much use towards Sound base techniques; noticing the lack of info on the wiki and from Otogakure nin in general. So somewhere along the line me and Trev decided to create a wikia page for such, with a broader range in what it can do. Some of you hate the originality of it, but I'd rather not care about that because we devised it to be fair and restrict its OPness that it may have. But then I started to see a chain of followers; gaining the concept of 'Sound resistant ear buds'. Needless to say there is a yin for every yang, but I don't see it with this.
Either way I made this topic to address such 'resistance'. Since for starters those who opt to wear these 'ear buds' essentially gain no enhancements at all. Quite frankly they hinder their character when in combat. One aspect; is to completely eradicate all noises, you are essentially agreeing that your character is temporarily deaf. If that is a wrong assumption I quit trying to reason with your illogical claims. Alot of your character's hearing senses are thrown out the window when he/she applies these buds. But then again you might think Ototon is just some annoying high pitched screech. Wrong.
Anyways I would like an explanation of what these ear buds do to prevent the enhanced vibrations to reach your ear drums. Just because you refuse to 'hear' it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And by definition sound is released vibrations that travel through the air. Ototon allows users to enhance their sound with chakra; causing the pitch to become disturbing, focusing and allowing their voice to be heard to a specific person, reducing the noise emitted from their persons, and increasing heavily the vibrations emitted from their persons to direct their technique. I can agree that every day noises can nullified by the use of ear buds, head phones of the like; although Ototon noise is much different allowing everyone and their mothers to hear what was heard. Besides once those vibrations reach your body, the target may feel such through their bones; so how exactly is this sound being blocked? And if one is to have these buds 'on hold' how exactly would they react in time to place them in without having a Sharingan to aide them before hand. Sound travels fast, but not as fast as light; and light travels pretty friggen fast.
On another note the whole Ototon is OP debate should be long gone now, especially with all you Sharingan/Rinnegan/Senju users running a muck I think some music is the least of your worries. I don't go about using Ototon every second of every time; it is something to fall back on when other opportunities aren't open and shouldn't be abused by those whom have it(there is a side effect from over exertion).
TL;DR What is with these 'Ototon proof earbuds' and how exactly do they stop the chakra enhanced vibrations being emitted towards their person. Even then so, having these buds in while in combat should essentially make your character deaf throughout the duration of the fight.
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If they were made of rubber or some such substance, they could absorb vibrations fairly well, which'd null out at least small to mediocre stuff trying to enter. Could also additionally, or alternatively, contain a bit of chakra that disperses incoming chakra/ototon? Would be even more effective, though also detrimental to wearer most likely too since they'd screw with their own chakra inside the head.
In any case, boosting the ototon with chakra wouldn't really matter in those cases, it'd still be vibrations...well, unless of course it made them so strong they blew the buds away or just shook em apart, though then again they'd be pointless to begin with since an attack that strong would deal quite a hurting regardless.
As for nulling vibrations coming their way from afar...they do and they don't.
A far bigger nuller is actually air, since to keep the same significant potency you'd have to be right up their face when releasing it, such as how Dosu did to first Lee and later Choji. Otherwise there's a very good chance the worst punch is dulled over the distance and the jutsus loses the required strength to affect them otherwise than through the ear >> and in those cases, with the buds in place, they'd be safe.
Other than that though, if you're either right up their face, or simply release such a bit attack like say a friggin nuclear bomb without the fire, destruction and radiation, then no, buds wouldn't really do anything for them except maaaaybe prevent their ear drums would getting absolutely and utterly rekt, otherwise you'd still eat the full effects of the attack cause the body would transmit the vibrations.
In the latter absurdly strong case though, it also brings up an argument against ototon users themselves; when you use a sound blast that retardedly strong, how on earth do you protect yourself much less your own ears from it? I'd like to see something a bit more logical, instead of the age old blocking own ears with chakra, cause that reeeeally should not work on the worst jutsus. At all.
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Straight from my wikia page:
Sound Filtering Earbuds - These earbuds prevent the passage of harmful sound waves into the ear canal by reducing the frequency and volume of the sound to a level tolerable (and adjustable) to the ears of the wearer. These buds also can filter chakra from the waves, making most sound ninjutsu useless on a wearer. Eric attained these from the Yondaime Hokage, Tommi.
There are many Leaf ninja (or former Leaf ninja) who also possess these earbuds. This protects solely the ear, so a sound technique that rattles bone (Uetto's guitar hack) is not going to be hindered much if at all by the earbuds. Anything focused on busting eardrums, inducing genjutsu via hearing, etc. will be dealt with by these earbuds.
Other variants that I have noticed around the site absorb the energy from the waves if they reach a pitch intolerable for the human (or even superhuman) ear. Others merely act like mufflers and simply weaken the sound coming in by absorbing some of it. Then there are the variants that Warren already detailed.
Sound Filtering earbuds make the user resistant to Ototon, but not per say immune. I have also noticed a Asura (or whatever that machine thing) Path that outright removed hearing altogether from the user, and certain wind armors reducing the influence of if not outright negating the influence of many Ototon.
In short, the general explanation varies, but the general idea is to prevent the harmful sound from reaching its target through some preventative measure.
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A puppet wouldn't be immune either, not completely. Shake em hard enough and they'll rattle themselves to pieces.
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The ear buds are actually legit to be used to counter most Ototon. However, sound biased ninjutsu is something very tricky and versatile. There are ways to get around the ear buds. I want say cause I don't like to tell people how to counter something. I think as a Shinobi you should learn this on your own. It brings you closer to pretending to be a legit ninja lol.
For instance the ear buds would not counter my 'sound' attacks at all really. I say sound attack cause my techneques tend to differs from the traditional sound jutsu. I don't really claim it as true Ototon not all of them at least. If anything I probably have the most OP Ototon on SL along with summons (bats). Sound is one of if not the most powerful thing at SL in the right hands. I claim my sound jutsu to be perhaps the strongest jutsu in my arsenal. I've used it to slay even dragons in one shot.
But yes these ear buds have their place but are not unstoppable.
I'd actually quite enjoy to pass on some of my sound ninjustsu and/or taijutsu to someone. Of course it is the way I use genjutsu as well.
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The ear buds are actually legit to be used to counter most Ototon. However, sound biased ninjutsu is something very tricky and versatile. There are ways to get around the ear buds. I want say cause I don't like to tell people how to counter something. I think as a Shinobi you should learn this on your own. It brings you closer to pretending to be a legit ninja lol.
For instance the ear buds would not counter my 'sound' attacks at all really. I say sound attack cause my techneques tend to differs from the traditional sound jutsu. I don't really claim it as true Ototon not all of them at least. If anything I probably have the most OP Ototon on SL along with summons (bats). Sound is one of if not the most powerful thing at SL in the right hands. I claim my sound jutsu to be perhaps the strongest jutsu in my arsenal. I've used it to slay even dragons in one shot.
But yes these ear buds have their place but are not unstoppable.
I'd actually quite enjoy to pass on some of my sound ninjustsu and/or taijutsu to someone. Of course it is the way I use genjutsu as well.
I agree on many points, as I am not really complaining on behalf of these ear buds. I just wish to let it be none that simply placing ear buds into your ear doesn't immediately cause you to become immune. Like you just said there are ways around such when it comes to sound vibrations and frequency. TRUST ME, I know. Which is why I made this topic, just so I know what they're about.
Also to the fact being Ototon itself isn't supposed to be a consecutively free to use technique. You should only use it when you know for a fact that your opponent is ready to run into such; thus I love to set up Ototon techniques. Being that it has Otogakure relations; the technique itself is very vile and unnatural to begin with. Most of its attacking techniques are extremely lethal and dangerous meant as a one a day type of thing (like Kamui or w.e.) Ototon users shouldn't be constantly straining their vocal chords with the amplification of chakra and what not, its too much stress. Personally my character Takeo has been working with Ototon in a delicate manner, progression over the years has allowed him the capabilities to 'abuse' its deadly components more often than not. Otogakure ninja are normally experimenters at heart! Thus he studied and adapted to working with the obscure sound frequencies and has actually come to enjoy them. Similarly or not, its like someone who constantly listens to music through their headphones at max volume; that volume is their normal, where as to someone else it may be extremely loud.
By the way there are techniques that can be projected through a similar relation with Fuuton; in which the air and sound travel as one; giving off the same sound throughout that wave range. That prevents 'everyone' from hearing such sounds to the afflicted target hearing such sounds. Or there can be techniques that literally send pulses of ground ripping vibrations that can splinter your bones upon contact. The usage of Ototon isn't for everyone that is why in my opinion its sacred to know how to utilize such and handle its performance in combat. Regardless of such, Ototon does not only have to be projected through your voice. I have on countless occasions used various instruments, which preferably grasp a better way at manipulating a target. Also like Kirk mentioned it has a way with wonders in applying Genjutsu. Sound can be very OP, which is why I tried to bring it in a way with moderation. Although I don't want it to be mistaken as some puny thing that some simple ear buds can pass by. That is my point!
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Ototon is the most OP thing ever created. It's fast and can be very low or very high. I've researched sound and a lot of the time I feel like I'm the only who does even though more than myself use Ototon. Ototon has been nerfed however like it should be. If left at 100% shit would get 'rekted'.
Now onto the issue at hand. These earbuds will and do work. Why else in real scenarios would we wear ear protection? Think of them as stereo earbuds with a filter attached onto it. Say you only want to hear things from 50 dB to 150 dB and anything below or above that is automatically filtered out. Like the sound volume on TVs and such it auto adjusts the sounds to a safe level.
Now onto science! 185-200 dB will kill a person if done correctly. Standing next to a chainsaw is like 120 dB. Eardrum rupture is around 150 dB and usually only done when standing next to a jet engine or in an explosive blast at short range. (in which case you want to worry more about shrapnel than sound) Hearing protection is only partially effective, as the bone conducts the vibrations and rattles around the inner workings of the ear enough to cause hearing problems in the long run anyway.
Now then while your ears are protected the rest of you body is not. As said bone conducts sound and boy oh boy does it do it well. Here's the 'killer' for you earbud users if Ototon users can find a way to use it. Sound can travel through your skull bone, directly to your inner ear. This bypasses any problems in your ear canal or middle ear. Effectively bypassing the earbuds. How you do this is up to you. Google it, it's real.
Also there's a thing called infrasound which can apparently cause your eyeballs to vibrate. Take that Uchiha hax!
I can go on and on about how to bypass the earbuds. Like said Ototon is so diverse that it's impossible to fully nullify unless it's blocked by futon bubbles or something. The ears aren't the only thing that sound can damage. Remember when Kabuto used his dragon sage thingy and had to turn his body to water to avoid death? I do. :P
Find a way around the wall or knock it down like a titan. Like I said the ears aren't the only thing affected.
TL;DR
Earbuds work. However sound can travel through your bones and even then Ototon can make Uchiha hax unusable by vibrating the eyes. You only are protecting your ears the rest of your body is still in trouble of Ototon attacks.
*drops mic on the stage and leaves*
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The ear buds are actually legit to be used to counter most Ototon. However, sound biased ninjutsu is something very tricky and versatile. There are ways to get around the ear buds. I want say cause I don't like to tell people how to counter something. I think as a Shinobi you should learn this on your own. It brings you closer to pretending to be a legit ninja lol.
For instance the ear buds would not counter my 'sound' attacks at all really. I say sound attack cause my techneques tend to differs from the traditional sound jutsu. I don't really claim it as true Ototon not all of them at least. If anything I probably have the most OP Ototon on SL along with summons (bats). Sound is one of if not the most powerful thing at SL in the right hands. I claim my sound jutsu to be perhaps the strongest jutsu in my arsenal. I've used it to slay even dragons in one shot.
But yes these ear buds have their place but are not unstoppable.
I'd actually quite enjoy to pass on some of my sound ninjustsu and/or taijutsu to someone. Of course it is the way I use genjutsu as well.
...Similarly or not, its like someone who constantly listens to music through their headphones at max volume; that volume is their normal, where as to someone else it may be extremely loud...
I am pretty sure that in this example, the person in question simply has deafened themselves to a certain point, as the ears adapt to constantly hearing loud sounds by decreasing in sensitivity to the sounds.
For the topic at hand, I think the earbud point has already been hashed about as it's only partially effective, and only against certain techniques.
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Still waiting for an explanation on how do ototon users protect themselves from those doomsday-level loud jutsus.
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Still waiting for an explanation on how do ototon users protect themselves from those doomsday-level loud jutsus.
Even so it's concentrated in one direction away from the user or one could say since they use it they are immune to it. Or we'd call Mei Terumī dead from her lava. Sasuke dead from lightning and so on.
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If you can somehow explain it being completely funneled into one direction, then I could maybe buy that. I don't think the can't harm yourself with your own jutsu really applies though, since ultimately even the juubi blew itself to hell with its own bijuudama.
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If you can somehow explain it being completely funneled into one direction, then I could maybe buy that. I don't think the can't harm yourself with your own jutsu really applies though, since ultimately even the juubi blew itself to hell with its own bijuudama.
I wrote a longer post but scrapped it. Point of the matter is that no one will accept being hurt by their own jutsu. (Exceptions apply to those jutsu that have shown to hurt the user) There's no canon to back it up in the show that sound hurts the user. Kabuto's white rage tech is the perfect example. It was said that Kabuto wasn't impaired by it due to him using Hozuki. In this case, yes it would hurt the user. However all the other times Ototon was shown. Nothing ill came to the user.
The majority consensus is the same. Can't debunk a whole set of jutsu by saying the sound hurts the user or all Ototon becomes useless.
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I'ma rephrase.
I'm not saying all jutsu should, just that common sense should apply. Don't want your own debilitating shout or whatever to affect you? Sure. However you just chilling out in the middle of indiscriminate nuclear bomb level of destruction should not fly.
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I'ma rephrase.
I'm not saying all jutsu should, just that common sense should apply. Don't want your own debilitating shout or whatever to affect you? Sure. However you just chilling out in the middle of indiscriminate nuclear bomb level of destruction should not fly.
I myself and Keito have said Ototon was nerfed by the users or those true to it. If one claims that level of power with it please by all means void them.
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Oh, well okay then. In that case this threads more or less done I believe.
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Danke shadow for making points I had not. Sound is OP as fuck, yes which is why we introduced Ototon in a light faction.
Regardless of such, when utilizing an annoying screech like roar; the user projects such frequencies and vibrations with the air itself. Almost like a fuuton/sound wave blast. In my own opinion I feel as if the sounds, ranging off the initial blast are muffled and lowered to a great degree.
Either way saying that the technique should harm the caster, is like saying sprouting a fire ball should burn your skin to ashes. Chakra has a very pixie dust-effect when it comes to techniques and what not. If its the users own chakra is emitting such, more than likely he is trying to harm someone else, not himself. As casters of the sound we can navigate and direct just whom and what will be effected. There are Ototon techniques that aren't even attacks, more so supplementary enhancements on the user. Now contrary, if two Ototon users match up against each other; all hell is breaking loose. You'd probably want to watch from a distance.
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You people and your fancy tricks. All I do is a simple beefed up shout.
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I get bored, following the norm. Although danke all for addressing my question. Maybe I can buy those Konoha buds and abuse the detrimental pitch of my Ototon to implausible standards. Hehehehe. Kidding of course. >__>'
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@Warren
For an example, about why it doesn't effect the user, just look at the manga, which the fannon Ototon gets origins from. When Dosu uses his melody gauntlet, he focuses his chakra and attack to the opponents ear drum, hence why he doesn't receive damage, nor anyone else. It's all about infusing sound waves with your chakra, and once ya got that, pretty much point and shoot in very simplified terms.
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@Warren
For an example, about why it doesn't effect the user, just look at the manga, which the fannon Ototon gets origins from. When Dosu uses his melody gauntlet, he focuses his chakra and attack to the opponents ear drum, hence why he doesn't receive damage, nor anyone else. It's all about infusing sound waves with your chakra, and once ya got that, pretty much point and shoot in very simplified terms.
So anyone who claims to use a sound-based attack and not have their chakra infused in the actual waves themselves cannot be considered immune to their own attack without other special enhancements? And that sound ninjutsu that infuses chakra into the waves can also be blocked by chakra absorption techniques like the Preta Path?
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@Warren
For an example, about why it doesn't effect the user, just look at the manga, which the fannon Ototon gets origins from. When Dosu uses his melody gauntlet, he focuses his chakra and attack to the opponents ear drum, hence why he doesn't receive damage, nor anyone else. It's all about infusing sound waves with your chakra, and once ya got that, pretty much point and shoot in very simplified terms.
So anyone who claims to use a sound-based attack and not have their chakra infused in the actual waves themselves cannot be considered immune to their own attack without other special enhancements? And that sound ninjutsu that infuses chakra into the waves can also be blocked by chakra absorption techniques like the Preta Path?
Well it is under the impression that mostly all sound bases attacks are influenced by chakra, else they wouldn't possess the effects they have. The blocking technique done by the Preta Path would essentially suck the chakra out of the attack; although I would believe the sound is still present. Meaning if the sound was aimed to disturb the normal frequencies it would still preform such; although lose its manipulative properties such as internal rupturing of organs. Make matters short if you use it against a grand scale bone shattering scream, your ears drums might burst cause you to go deaf; instead of its usual effects.
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Ototon is a lot easier to counter than you think. But people would rather have a plug-n-play auto-immunity to it.
And on the note of Ototon not effecting the user too, it goes along the same lines of why Katon doesn't completely scorch and burn the user's mouth. Sure Sasuke might have gotten some very small burns on his face when he was younger, but that's because he was still in training with it.
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I dunno why people are still repeating the affects user doesn't affect thing. I already said I was cool with lesser things being fine, and according to Keito and co the nuclear bomb level stupidity is not allowed.
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Just a reiteration, although it is clear now. The nuclear bomb type thing may not be out of the question, although I believe it should be used more as a suicide attempt of the sort. Meaning if you want a grand scale disruption of vibrations and frequencies, not only do you make yourself at risk; but all those surrounding as well. Ally or Foe.
Either way I don't want everyone and their mothers knowing Ototon. Really wanted to keep it within the confines of Otogakure; an attribute you get for sticking with the crazies. Besides it is Otogakure's nature to be vile and kill, Ototon being a prime example of such.
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To my knowledge it largely is. I did mention I myself do a shout thing, but it isn't really 'ototon', more just beefing vocal cords with a drop of chakra to holler that much louder. The kind of 'anybody could figure this out' stuff.
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Back when I had my cicadas producing decibels in the 1000's I would have to either Kamui out of the zone 100% or use mayfly back when it wasn't just for Zetsu. xD Man...Ototon is so beautiful sometimes Q_Q
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I'd like to note that sound does not need chakra to be aimed in a certain location. Also you can make harmful sound waves without chakra. That's basic science. We coulddothese things in RL.
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One thing I've always wondered is how some people claim to have superhuman hearing as a passive trait, but also have immune/resistance to ototon techniques/general loud noises.
Should be like Kiba's weakness to Naruto in the chunin exams.
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One thing I've always wondered is how some people claim to have superhuman hearing as a passive trait, but also have immune/resistance to ototon techniques/general loud noises.
Should be like Kiba's weakness to Naruto in the chunin exams.
How can people claim to be able to walk, but also be able to run. D:
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One thing I've always wondered is how some people claim to have superhuman hearing as a passive trait, but also have immune/resistance to ototon techniques/general loud noises.
Should be like Kiba's weakness to Naruto in the chunin exams.
How can people claim to be able to walk, but also be able to run. D:
That's not comparable. Having super hearing should actually make the target more susceptible to sound based techniques period, Ototon or otherwise.
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One thing I've always wondered is how some people claim to have superhuman hearing as a passive trait, but also have immune/resistance to ototon techniques/general loud noises.
Should be like Kiba's weakness to Naruto in the chunin exams.
How can people claim to be able to walk, but also be able to run. D:
That's not comparable. Having super hearing should actually make the target more susceptible to sound based techniques period, Ototon or otherwise.
I like to be sarcastic from time to time. You know this or at least you do now. :P
Anywho more science coming at chu! *pewpew*
We receive sounds, passes through our ear canals, vibrates our ear drums and then reaches this snail shape thing filled with fluid, the fluid does a dance and makes hair cells floating on the top cause a chemical reaction that turns it into an electrical signal that sends it to our brain via nerve.
If you want an explanation of how. Here it is...we have naturally more 'durable' ears you could say. Most of the time in the real world (if not all the time) hearing loss is due to the cilia cells (The little hairs atop the fluid) to be damaged which they can repair themselves, but go too loud and they die.
How others define their resistance I do not know. Mine is based on a reinforced ear system that can withstand sounds of varying levels without haring loss. (Which I rp'ed) Allows me to hear all without the ear being hurt at all.
People are injecting themselves with mokuton DNA and have all that other jazz so I don't think having done this RP to myself is far fetched even so in RL they have cochlear implants which allow deaf or near deaf people to hear sounds once again by bypassing the cells they had lost.
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One thing I've always wondered is how some people claim to have superhuman hearing as a passive trait, but also have immune/resistance to ototon techniques/general loud noises.
Should be like Kiba's weakness to Naruto in the chunin exams.
I'd say it'd be like the Namike effect. For instance The Lord Slug movie when Gohan whistled Piccilo and Lord Slug were in great pain.
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One thing I've always wondered is how some people claim to have superhuman hearing as a passive trait, but also have immune/resistance to ototon techniques/general loud noises.
Should be like Kiba's weakness to Naruto in the chunin exams.
How can people claim to be able to walk, but also be able to run. D:
That's not comparable. Having super hearing should actually make the target more susceptible to sound based techniques period, Ototon or otherwise.
... If you want an explanation of how. Here it is...we have naturally more 'durable' ears you could say. Most of the time in the real world (if not all the time) hearing loss is due to the cilia cells (The little hairs atop the fluid) to be damaged which they can repair themselves, but go too loud and they die.
How others define their resistance I do not know. Mine is based on a reinforced ear system that can withstand sounds of varying levels without haring loss. (Which I rp'ed) Allows me to hear all without the ear being hurt at all.
People are injecting themselves with mokuton DNA and have all that other jazz so I don't think having done this RP to myself is far fetched even so in RL they have cochlear implants which allow deaf or near deaf people to hear sounds once again by bypassing the cells they had lost.
Bypassing the lost cells and having an ear completely custom made to withstand incredible sounds are lightly different. I will not claim to be a sound expert but how would you protect those cilia from damage from chakra enhanced sound attacks, or even ordinary sound waves of great strength? In order to have enhanced hearing, general logic would dictate that the ear would have to be more sensitive to sounds.
That would mean that a significantly greater or lesser volume (and even outlier frequencies) of sound can generate the fluid and cilia action that causes the sense of hearing when a lesser ear would be largely unaffected, much like how a dog whistle is not heard by humans, but by dogs.
The durability of your ears can be enhanced either by replacing the cilia (durability through restoration) or by protecting the cilia from the harmful sounds to begin with (such as blocking harmful waves, which would prevent one from hearing them perfectly fine).
In a narutoverse bid of logic, this protection can be granted either by using chakra to redirect the sound, by absorbing the sound, or by channeling the sound into a space in the ear where it cannot reach the inner ear (nor be lost to another part of the body) and having special cells "register" the strength of the sound before passing this information artificially to the fluid and cilia, aforementioned cells being far more resilient than the cilia. Or some other body enhancement/KG-like thing that subconsciously regulates how much of the sound is permitted to actually hit the inner ear at one time, which would basically be an auto-regulator for sound much like how the eyes auto-regulate for different amounts of light.
So how does a more "durable" ear in Otogakure work? Does it focus on defending the inner ear from harmful sounds or does it simply have more resilient cilia? Because beyond either of those two, I'm a bit stumped on what good a more durable ear would do you, because while the ear itself would not be damaged, incredibly loud sound should still have other adverse effects on the listener, even if permanent hearing loss is not a great issue.
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Because it's now my normal hearing range.
Just how humans normally can hear from 30dB to 100dB before hearing loss starts. Because our ears are adjusted to that area of sound. I just made it to where my area of sound is much much larger.
Whisper in someones ear and then increase to talking normally. It doesn't bother them one bit because the ear is made to withstand both sounds.
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Because it's now my normal hearing range.
Just how humans normally can hear from 30dB to 100dB before hearing loss starts. Because our ears are adjusted to that area of sound. I just made it to where my area of sound is much much larger.
Whisper in someones ear and then increase to talking normally. It doesn't bother them one bit because the ear is made to withstand both sounds.
But how does it become your normal hearing range? You just put chakra to your ears and bam, range increased? How are the ears adjusted to that level of sound? Is it a KG? Even in SL terms, the inexplicable rise in volume and frequency tolerance is questionable.
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Because it's now my normal hearing range.
Just how humans normally can hear from 30dB to 100dB before hearing loss starts. Because our ears are adjusted to that area of sound. I just made it to where my area of sound is much much larger.
Whisper in someones ear and then increase to talking normally. It doesn't bother them one bit because the ear is made to withstand both sounds.
But how does it become your normal hearing range? You just put chakra to your ears and bam, range increased? How are the ears adjusted to that level of sound? Is it a KG? Even in SL terms, the inexplicable rise in volume and frequency tolerance is questionable.
Before you go and call it 'inexplicable' and 'even in SL terms is questionable' let's not forget that a lot of stuff in Naruto is far beyond questionable. I mean KG implants via DNA implant. Come on we all know that's complete BS and doesn't work like that. And dragons aren't real either yet people use them on SL.
I'm describing it to the best of my ability. I'm no sound major nor have a degree in medicine pertaining to ears and how they act.
What I did was alter the ears parts. The cochlea, spiral ganglion, and organ of Corti (located inside the cochlea) Now I cannot tell you the specific processes of how I did this because in real life it's impossible to do.
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Because it's now my normal hearing range.
Just how humans normally can hear from 30dB to 100dB before hearing loss starts. Because our ears are adjusted to that area of sound. I just made it to where my area of sound is much much larger.
Whisper in someones ear and then increase to talking normally. It doesn't bother them one bit because the ear is made to withstand both sounds.
But how does it become your normal hearing range? You just put chakra to your ears and bam, range increased? How are the ears adjusted to that level of sound? Is it a KG? Even in SL terms, the inexplicable rise in volume and frequency tolerance is questionable.
Before you go and call it 'inexplicable' and 'even in SL terms is questionable' let's not forget that a lot of stuff in Naruto is far beyond questionable. I mean KG implants via DNA implant. Come on we all know that's complete BS and doesn't work like that. And dragons aren't real either yet people use them on SL.
I'm describing it to the best of my ability. I'm no sound major nor have a degree in medicine pertaining to ears and how they act.
What I did was alter the ears parts. The cochlea, spiral ganglion, and organ of Corti (located inside the cochlea) Now I cannot tell you the specific processes of how I did this because in real life it's impossible to do.
Well technically you could potentially splice your DNA and another's together in real life. And it makes since that once your DNA is fully merged with another's you would gain their traits in one way or another. I mean, much like you just said I am no expert in this so I could be 100% wrong here.
That is beside the point. I agree with Shadow here that sometimes you cannot explain something in Naruto with actual science. Chakra is literally just Magic that can create something out of nothing. So, Shadow's super hearing but at the same time not super hearing is fine with me. I have seen people claim more with less information. I.e 100% resistance to any element because "off screen training hax"
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I scanned this topic, and it seems like people are talking about Ototon as methods of attack beyond what we saw in Naruto. What Becquerel has within his lab is Ototon-related, but completely mechanical. Basically, it's an LRAD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P3FsLMKwJE
Using sound waves to cause injury go beyond dealing with just ear drums. I think it was mentioned earlier, but basically sound waves can be used to liquify someone's organs if the wavelength is intense enough.
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I scanned this topic, and it seems like people are talking about Ototon as methods of attack beyond what we saw in Naruto. What Becquerel has within his lab is Ototon-related, but completely mechanical. Basically, it's an LRAD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P3FsLMKwJE
Using sound waves to cause injury go beyond dealing with just ear drums. I think it was mentioned earlier, but basically sound waves can be used to liquify someone's organs if the wavelength is intense enough.
Have to stay within the limits though. Liquefying objects would be voided by most people it's too OP.
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I scanned this topic, and it seems like people are talking about Ototon as methods of attack beyond what we saw in Naruto. What Becquerel has within his lab is Ototon-related, but completely mechanical. Basically, it's an LRAD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P3FsLMKwJE
Using sound waves to cause injury go beyond dealing with just ear drums. I think it was mentioned earlier, but basically sound waves can be used to liquify someone's organs if the wavelength is intense enough.
Have to stay within the limits though. Liquefying objects would be voided by most people it's too OP.
Yet no one said anything about me using cicadas to liquefy people. Huh.
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I scanned this topic, and it seems like people are talking about Ototon as methods of attack beyond what we saw in Naruto. What Becquerel has within his lab is Ototon-related, but completely mechanical. Basically, it's an LRAD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P3FsLMKwJE
Using sound waves to cause injury go beyond dealing with just ear drums. I think it was mentioned earlier, but basically sound waves can be used to liquify someone's organs if the wavelength is intense enough.
Have to stay within the limits though. Liquefying objects would be voided by most people it's too OP.
Yet no one said anything about me using cicadas to liquefy people. Huh.
You can do whatever you want with everyone else. If you were involved with an rp of mine then we'd talk about it. Since I barely rp anymore nor care really let those people who didn't say anything continue to rp how they wish and you continue to rp how you wish.
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Because it's now my normal hearing range.
Just how humans normally can hear from 30dB to 100dB before hearing loss starts. Because our ears are adjusted to that area of sound. I just made it to where my area of sound is much much larger.
Whisper in someones ear and then increase to talking normally. It doesn't bother them one bit because the ear is made to withstand both sounds.
But how does it become your normal hearing range? You just put chakra to your ears and bam, range increased? How are the ears adjusted to that level of sound? Is it a KG? Even in SL terms, the inexplicable rise in volume and frequency tolerance is questionable.
Before you go and call it 'inexplicable' and 'even in SL terms is questionable' let's not forget that a lot of stuff in Naruto is far beyond questionable. I mean KG implants via DNA implant. Come on we all know that's complete BS and doesn't work like that. And dragons aren't real either yet people use them on SL.
I'm describing it to the best of my ability. I'm no sound major nor have a degree in medicine pertaining to ears and how they act.
What I did was alter the ears parts. The cochlea, spiral ganglion, and organ of Corti (located inside the cochlea) Now I cannot tell you the specific processes of how I did this because in real life it's impossible to do.
Then full body protection earbuds may be invented and we are back to square one, right?
I partially jest in saying that, but the point of the matter is, no, not everything has to be brought down to a science, but you have to recall that your ears have been modified to protect you from general Ototon damage. What is stopping someone from inventing an earbud that genuinely protects against almost all Ototon, using a special mechanism to be later specified? It's not that much of a stretch if people get creative with it.
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Because it's now my normal hearing range.
Just how humans normally can hear from 30dB to 100dB before hearing loss starts. Because our ears are adjusted to that area of sound. I just made it to where my area of sound is much much larger.
Whisper in someones ear and then increase to talking normally. It doesn't bother them one bit because the ear is made to withstand both sounds.
But how does it become your normal hearing range? You just put chakra to your ears and bam, range increased? How are the ears adjusted to that level of sound? Is it a KG? Even in SL terms, the inexplicable rise in volume and frequency tolerance is questionable.
Before you go and call it 'inexplicable' and 'even in SL terms is questionable' let's not forget that a lot of stuff in Naruto is far beyond questionable. I mean KG implants via DNA implant. Come on we all know that's complete BS and doesn't work like that. And dragons aren't real either yet people use them on SL.
I'm describing it to the best of my ability. I'm no sound major nor have a degree in medicine pertaining to ears and how they act.
What I did was alter the ears parts. The cochlea, spiral ganglion, and organ of Corti (located inside the cochlea) Now I cannot tell you the specific processes of how I did this because in real life it's impossible to do.
Then full body protection earbuds may be invented and we are back to square one, right?
I partially jest in saying that, but the point of the matter is, no, not everything has to be brought down to a science, but you have to recall that your ears have been modified to protect you from general Ototon damage. What is stopping someone from inventing an earbud that genuinely protects against almost all Ototon, using a special mechanism to be later specified? It's not that much of a stretch if people get creative with it.
I said the earbuds were able to do such a thing. I thought all that posted here agreed on that. We then moved to how I and others claimed immunity to Ototon. I described mine to the best of my ability.
Earbuds can block Ototon and my immunity sticks. The buds protect your ears, but your body is still at risk just as much as mine is.
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Because it's now my normal hearing range.
Just how humans normally can hear from 30dB to 100dB before hearing loss starts. Because our ears are adjusted to that area of sound. I just made it to where my area of sound is much much larger.
Whisper in someones ear and then increase to talking normally. It doesn't bother them one bit because the ear is made to withstand both sounds.
But how does it become your normal hearing range? You just put chakra to your ears and bam, range increased? How are the ears adjusted to that level of sound? Is it a KG? Even in SL terms, the inexplicable rise in volume and frequency tolerance is questionable.
Before you go and call it 'inexplicable' and 'even in SL terms is questionable' let's not forget that a lot of stuff in Naruto is far beyond questionable. I mean KG implants via DNA implant. Come on we all know that's complete BS and doesn't work like that. And dragons aren't real either yet people use them on SL.
I'm describing it to the best of my ability. I'm no sound major nor have a degree in medicine pertaining to ears and how they act.
What I did was alter the ears parts. The cochlea, spiral ganglion, and organ of Corti (located inside the cochlea) Now I cannot tell you the specific processes of how I did this because in real life it's impossible to do.
Then full body protection earbuds may be invented and we are back to square one, right?
I partially jest in saying that, but the point of the matter is, no, not everything has to be brought down to a science, but you have to recall that your ears have been modified to protect you from general Ototon damage. What is stopping someone from inventing an earbud that genuinely protects against almost all Ototon, using a special mechanism to be later specified? It's not that much of a stretch if people get creative with it.
I said the earbuds were able to do such a thing. I thought all that posted here agreed on that. We then moved to how I and others claimed immunity to Ototon. I described mine to the best of my ability.
Earbuds can block Ototon and my immunity sticks. The buds protect your ears, but your body is still at risk just as much as mine is.
Full body protection earbuds =/= Ear only protection earbuds.
But I digress. As long as immunity to Ototon doesn't extend to the body due to a modification of the ears, I'm all wrapped up here.
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Same.
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Thought we were on the same page a awhile back. Well now that we are, good. I think Ototon is going to see a broader range of new techniques as well! Till next topic.