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Roleplay => Village Square => Topic started by: Rusaku on January 18, 2016, 12:52:21 AM

Title: RP on the forum?
Post by: Rusaku on January 18, 2016, 12:52:21 AM
OK, so I'm not gonna make a lengthy topic for this but I feel like it needs to be addressed.

I love the fact that everyone is making their own stories and enjoying Rp but c'mon, we have a site for this. It's called Shinobi Legends, and honestly it's not doing all that great when it comes to lengthy Rp's like this. All this activity you guys are spurring would do wonders over there opposed to here on the forum where we are really supposed to discuss rules and stuff. At least that is how I have seen it.

First it was the Biju matches, then it was the hunter/hero guild, and now it's just mundane RP interaction. What's wrong with SL for these things? Honestly, I'm just confused. Enlighten me.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 18, 2016, 01:35:51 AM
Well to be honest with you whenever I first branched off of SL to go to other rp sites I discovered that I enjoy the Forum layout for rp sites much better than shinobi legends.

A.) You don't have posts limited to a specific character count and always having to end them with some form of continue symbol
B.) It's much easier to add things such as photos or gifs to detail your description of things more efficiently
C.) I honestly feel like people are more inclined to actually read your rps on the forum, where as entire pages of text will go unread on the actual shinobi legends site
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 18, 2016, 01:50:55 AM
Basically what Ichirou said. Add pictures, edit the text layout or links.

I can change font sizes

I can even
adjust where the text is

or just add some flare ;D

Quote
Point of the matter is....

It gives us

So much more freedom
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y4rIJrRMgcNsyYhqMrD9h2o9anlEiAPSabPKEzSYgAsPYk-sdE0VlGS6Dc5Xz7-SRTU2A=s114)
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 18, 2016, 01:52:42 AM
If there was a way to add the same sort of freedom to the SL site then I'd do it on there.

Posts are just so much easier to read and write on here.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Masane on January 18, 2016, 01:54:56 AM
Quote from: Garō, Ichirou on January 18, 2016, 01:35:51 AM
Well to be honest with you whenever I first branched off of SL to go to other rp sites I discovered that I enjoy the Forum layout for rp sites much better than shinobi legends.

A.) You don't have posts limited to a specific character count and always having to end them with some form of continue symbol
B.) It's much easier to add things such as photos or gifs to detail your description of things more efficiently
C.) I honestly feel like people are more inclined to actually read your rps on the forum, where as entire pages of text will go unread on the actual shinobi legends site
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: JayJay on January 18, 2016, 01:58:00 AM
It's easier to maintain. Nobody can exactly post in the midst of your post. It's entirely more organized and the topics won't vanish, so a year could go by and an RP could pick up from exactly where it left off. While that would suck, it would be easier to do so with the history of the RP remaining where it was.

Is it against the rules?
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on January 18, 2016, 03:45:24 AM
well this is how i see it. if you look back to the first pages of the village square in the Roleplay section and see all those RPs...well it seems that this was indeed made to be used for RP.

it turned to rules and arguments only recently in its long history.

I for one RP a heck of a lot more on SL than I ever have this forum or SLS when it was up and running combined.

I prefer to RP on the actual site. The bulk of our community doesn't even come here, nor do they want to.

Most of you never seek me out in RP on SL unless you wish to destroy a village I am associated with to gain power and just happen to have to put up with me participating. so my chances for RP here are slim to none. On SL, however, the wider character base and range of RP available to me is quite satisfactory. And keep in mind that I have seriously cut down on the PM rps I do in favor of public posting.

But taking RP from SL to this forum is not something I would promote in the least. All the complaints people make about RPing there...oh dear, its a pain to do continuation posts to get it all up, people might interrupt me, i might have to page back to find my rp cause another has cropped up in the same board...well it is true this happens, but I say so what? The real time perks of a speedy reply, of some random person taking inspiration from something we are doing and going out to create their own RP, the chance someone might join in and expand the RP....all of these more than make up for any minor inconvenience created. I have had numerous encounters with people who message me because they saw me rping on SL and want to go out and do stuff too than I can even count. I have NEVER been contacted like that because of any RP I did here.

If I hide my RP here, well...gee...look at all the opportunities for chance to add spice to my story I am denying myself?

People on SL read more than you think. Most of the people I have met happened because they saw me RPing and pm'd me. Or because I saw them rping and I messaged them. A bio posted? Pft...that rarely captures my attention like SL RP does and never will.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: UettoSenju on January 18, 2016, 03:48:09 AM
I've always been for pro rp at SL and agianst rp at forum.


That's just me though. I guess it's no different then if these rps where taking place at a dwelling though. At least here more can see them. That's about the only plus I see to it.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: UettoSenju on January 18, 2016, 03:54:14 AM
We are just old school Kay


The main point of focus should be is rp here considered legit to have happened at SL? I mean what if someone rps sneaking into a village here? Clearly everyone from the village may not be here at forum so can it even be considered legit?
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Eric on January 18, 2016, 04:16:47 AM
Quote from: UettoSenju on January 18, 2016, 03:54:14 AM
We are just old school Kay


The main point of focus should be is rp here considered legit to have happened at SL? I mean what if someone rps sneaking into a village here? Clearly everyone from the village may not be here at forum so can it even be considered legit?

No, it should not be the focus of this discussion. The RP that has been going on here, by and large, has NOT been in that strain. If anything, it has either been a separate RP continuity or, like with me and Jay, has been fairly benign as far as outside parties are concerned. If people do start trying to RP village attacks here then we can get on the topic of "is that even legit" in which case the answer will most likely be no.

I am coming to like doing RP here on the forum; many of the things already said plus sheer familiarity. There are no clan halls that I need to jump through, the word limit is incredibly high, and most importantly, I can actually get notifications of a new post being made in a thread sent to my e-mail  (not that I don't come on the forum almost every single day, cause I pretty much do as moderator and active forum goer).

Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on January 18, 2016, 03:45:24 AM
... The bulk of our community doesn't even come here, nor do they want to...

Maybe if there is some RP here maybe they might. Either way, there are few that I know of who actually interact (and in some cases even want to interact) with the bulk of "the" community anyways, much less even knows what that means anymore.

*By and large used as alternative RP spot, not really the "main" RP hub. I doubt it'll ever get like that.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 18, 2016, 04:32:20 AM
Quote from: UettoSenju on January 18, 2016, 03:54:14 AM
The main point of focus should be is rp here considered legit to have happened at SL? I mean what if someone rps sneaking into a village here? Clearly everyone from the village may not be here at forum so can it even be considered legit?

Yes. Any and all rp that happens on here does carry over to SL.

No one would rp on here sneaking into a village. Where would they even put it? They'd have to first sign up for a forum account and then wait for it to be approved and then post the thread. 99% of the people on the forum are old players. I see a 0% chance of that situation happening ever.

And if it does? Well we ignore it. Tell them that's not how it's done, slap 'em on the wrist and send them off.


I mostly use the forums now for the Eastern Trek. That has 8 people in it. With the forum layout it seems far easier to do it on here than on SL. More organized and makes it easier for me.

In fact that's the only kind of RP I'll use the forums for. Multiple people in the rp and one that will include various 'chapters'
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: JayJay on January 18, 2016, 05:24:28 AM
If anything, it's more personalized. The forum RPs are only being used for groups of people that need this layout to organize everything and is only derived from the SL, The Hunter's Guild. HG is like a site in a site where the RP takes on a more video game like feel. If you're interested, go on and join, it's fun. XD

The significant event with me and Eric and, in time, me and Masane, are done here to forever document important events.

In my opinion, if you want something for someone to look back on, just to check legitimacy of something super super important, than doing it here on the forum, where the old school players can see and agree with, then I see no real problem with it. I'm not being biased, because I'm apart of the RPs here. I'm saying in general.

But the majority of my RPs are done on the site. So I'm cool.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: UettoSenju on January 18, 2016, 01:57:51 PM
I just can't grasp any rp done here becoming legit by any means at SL itself.  It's all OOC stuff in my opinion. Which is fine if Neji permits it and doesn't mind it.

In the end though that my opinion nothing more. It's just not for me. If you guys enjoy it then pursue what makes you happy. We come here for fun or atleast we use to. These days it can be hard to tell.

To each his on
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Rusaku on January 18, 2016, 09:59:35 PM
I agree with the idea that RP can be more flamboyant here on the forum with the option of adding pictures and all of the other things pointed out.

I also understand what Kay was saying about the forum being used originally for RP. I have done my own amount of grave digging through old posts out of boredom to see what SL used to be like before I joined up, on the forum at least.

Thought to be honest I would have to side with Kirk in saying that none of what happens here should be IC, unless it's Biju oriented. Even then the only reason those are over here now is for documentation and availability. I seriously question the validity of doing in character RP on a separate site from SL. Sure they are obviously two related sites, but as it has been mentioned a majority of the user base on SL never even touches the forum to see these interaction.

As I noted before, I am only bringing this up because there has been an upsurgence of role play located on this platform, and I don't really want to see it become a trend that eventually aids in the inevitable downfall of SL. You say it's only a few Rp's compared to what goes down on SL, but in the last year we have gone from having only a few Biju fights on the forum to having two different GROUPS each with their own child board just for RP, and almost every single Biju based RP happens here. Not only that but with Ichirou and Masane coming back there has been a number of just mundane Rp's happening. Not that it is just the twins by any means, they are just two people who I have seen in the RP's more than others. I know Eric, Jay, and Ray have been participating as well. 

I'm not trying to bash the stories by any means. Please don't misunderstand. I also understand the allure of the forum with it's various mechanics that allow for better immersion, I just don't want to see SL neglected. ^_^
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Eric on January 18, 2016, 11:01:23 PM
Quote from: Rusaku on January 18, 2016, 09:59:35 PM
... I just don't want to see SL neglected. ^_^

It won't be. The majority of the player base doesn't even touch this place. There is no threat to SL RP whatesoever by the RPs which are done here.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Mei on January 18, 2016, 11:31:37 PM
You know, I was wondering if RP on the forums are considered IC.
For example, you RP with people on the forum, not in SL, so when you do RP with them for the first time in SL, do you technically know them? o.o

Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Ace on January 18, 2016, 11:31:46 PM
I'm glad to see activity both on the forum and in-game.
We should continue to promote both- we do not have to chose one. =)

No reason people cannot role play in both places- some people have more time to do so. ^_^

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On another note, I might limit forum signatures. Some are getting a little out of hand with the number of images that they use. I hope I do not need to do so due to a handful causing this problem. ;)

Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 19, 2016, 12:02:57 AM
Quote from: Mei on January 18, 2016, 11:31:37 PM
You know, I was wondering if RP on the forums are considered IC.
For example, you RP with people on the forum, not in SL, so when you do RP with them for the first time in SL, do you technically know them? o.o



As far as i'm concerned that would be something established beforehand. Like when Athos and I do an rp on the forum it's usually Ic, it just adds to the history of our characters
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Masane on January 19, 2016, 12:06:49 AM
What I'm gonna do with jay is definitely IC. I'm doing it here so if his training with the phoenix ever comes to question by anyone, boom it's right here
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: JayJay on January 19, 2016, 12:13:06 AM
Quote from: Ace on January 18, 2016, 11:31:46 PM
I'm glad to see activity both on the forum and in-game.
We should continue to promote both- we do not have to chose one. =)

No reason people cannot role play in both places- some people have more time to do so. ^_^

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On another note, I might limit forum signatures. Some are getting a little out of hand with the number of images that they use. I hope I do not need to do so due to a handful causing this problem. ;)



SIGNATURES!!!!!!!! LOL! Somebody finally noticed. I was just adding them on to see how much I could get, but then I had to start working.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on January 19, 2016, 01:03:04 AM
The Mission Headquarters was set up for people to apply to RP mission on SL with a DP reward system. It was active for a while but died out.

My day on SL usually consists of GMing and RPing in one browser while i level accounts on others. If I am super busy I rp on both browsers and log in and out to switch characters. I always thought that it would be good to have training threads for your character here that you could revisit again and again to rp. I started one for Raihana a long time ago. It usually consisted of RP lifted from SL and copy pasted here to serve as a record. I think it is cool to have that be permanent, I can look back at things and see where improvements have occurred or analyze where they can then be made. It is a useful tool to help focus me during character creation and development. Mostly I stopped cause it seemed to annoy...and I just keep my training private.

Yes a rare occasion where community opinion actually caused me to alter my own pathway. lol
so silly. Perhaps that was because it dealt with my writing rather than an arbitrary case in point? w/e

I prefer RP to be on SL to promote site activity while using the forum as a utility...a supplement. But I see no reason why both cannot continue to exist jointly as they have ever done.

oh god. a basketball game on TV. I have to go kill that quick!
later all!!
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Asadi on January 19, 2016, 07:21:54 AM
Quote from: Ace on January 18, 2016, 11:31:46 PM
On another note, I might limit forum signatures. Some are getting a little out of hand with the number of images that they use. I hope I do not need to do so due to a handful causing this problem. ;)

I'm so glad I found the account option to disable signatures. ~.~ Too much movement while reading is distracting.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Styx on January 19, 2016, 09:30:23 AM
Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on January 18, 2016, 03:45:24 AM
People on SL read more than you think.

Can confirm, I read everything but usually don't post.

Personally I see the RP on here similar to those of PM RPs or Dwellings as Uetto mentioned.
As long as it doesn't involve a group of non forum users I don't a problem against it.
However, I'd still prefer the usage of the main site over the forum. Forum Rps are a turn off for me which is one of the reasons why I joined SL.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Suishou Koji on January 19, 2016, 03:19:47 PM
Quote from: Asadi on January 19, 2016, 07:21:54 AM
I'm so glad I found the account option to disable signatures. ~.~ Too much movement while reading is distracting.

There's that option? You must tell me where it is!

To this topic, I've said it before and I'll say it again. I do not like Forum RP. I've been using SL the main site for such a long time now that it's style of things has become a preference over anything else.

I'll post my opinions, make topics on things I need clarification, but you won't see me rp here. It just seems wrong to me.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Yomi on January 19, 2016, 04:34:13 PM
While a lot of people say that it is more convenient here to do RP and such, I still prefer to use the main site instead of the forums. I have always seen the forums as a way to discuss things related to SL whether it's about game issues, new features, RP-related, etc.

I'll admit I do some forum RP myself, but not with this kind of setup. You'll see what I mean once you check out RP-focused forums.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: MaliciousWolf on January 20, 2016, 09:08:53 AM
I have been a member of SL for 6 years or so, and actually never once checked the forums until like a month ago when I decided to join because of all the posts on SL Village Boards advertising to check the forums regarding GM nominations. It was not till then that I found out quite a bit of RP takes place on the forums, which I honestly never thought happened at all where I always thought of the forums as a place to submit complaints and none of my complaints I ever had needed to be escalated past the in game petition system.

Just feels sort of wrong to me for RP to take place on the forum, but I can see the appeal for logging and tracking. Still though, I rather do everything on SL IC RP wise, it only feels right to me to do so. I do not have an issue though with others RP ing on the forums, that is totally up to them.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 20, 2016, 02:49:13 PM
So I guess that's pretty much it.

Everyone has said that they don't intend on solely rp'ing on the forums, but when they do it's to keep it as an archive of sorts or for long rps that require better organization.
Title: Re: RP on the forum?
Post by: Asadi on January 21, 2016, 06:07:24 AM
Quote from: Suishou Koji on January 19, 2016, 03:19:47 PM
Quote from: Asadi on January 19, 2016, 07:21:54 AM
I'm so glad I found the account option to disable signatures. ~.~ Too much movement while reading is distracting.

There's that option? You must tell me where it is!

Profile -> account settings -> look and layout

click don't show users signatures and save.