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This may be a silly question, but should IC hunts be allowed to those who use the bijuu as a summon? I would think not since I cannot imagine how one would be able to identify the summoner. o.o

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Rules/Foundation / Re: Methods of *IC* hunting a Jichuuriki (VOTE!)
« on: December 06, 2015, 05:14:27 AM »
This is not an easy topic, at least not to me. >.>

I don't like voting on something that I'm not too sure about. If we can see such a scenario even in a game (see below), I would be okay if the results since I feel in this case, it can go either way.

People are voting No because they feel Telescope technique does not allow you to see the appearance/location of the Jinchuuriki while people who are voting Yes think the tech can.

I'm voting Yes because I don't believe in either of the choices, but the fact that there are not really a lot of ways to sense a bijuu (Byakugan and Sage Mode are KGs and Mind's Eye of Kagura is Uzumaki-only). So what will a shinobi who has NO access to any of those methods do? Force to team up with someone who does? (I guess that's what Bocc and Rusaku did)

So again, I'm voting Yes to give the common/ordinary shinobi a chance at least.

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Random (but related) find that I thought was okay to bring up here.

Discovered this from the Telescope Technique wikia (ironic?).
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Shipp%C5%ABden:_Kizuna_Drive

So in the Naruto Shippūden: Kizuna Drive game, Hinata sees 30 km away and Neji is able to 'see' within a bijuu.

Hinata sees a strong chakra 30 km away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JJVDhZc20&feature=youtu.be&list=PL4E1EAC8245AE1DB8&t=283

Neji being able to confirm that Gaara was not the one within the One Tails.
https://youtu.be/F8JJVDhZc20?list=PL4E1EAC8245AE1DB8&t=346
Also if Neji can do that, then obviously the opposite has to be true (being able to see a bijuu within a jinchuuriki).

I just find it funny that this happened in a game a few years before Naruto: The Last or Boruto the Movie came out.

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Rules/Foundation / Re: Challenging a Host [vote]
« on: December 06, 2015, 05:09:38 AM »
No:

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After Inactivity or defeat you may challenge a different host, or the same host for a different bijuu right away.

Doesn't this risk conflicting with the "you cannot challenge the same host for 3 months" thing? Or is the general consensus that you are challenging for the biju and not for the host?

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You must check forum host preference threads to stay informed.

Informed of what, exactly? I don't think preferences should be changing mid-match, so unless you're talking other additions to the challenge list or the host replying to the challenger, I don't get what the challenger needs to stay on top of in that thread.

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In regards to the 'staying informed with host's preferences', is that not considered automatically done prior to the challenge and match? 'Knowing' is half the battle.

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Rules/Foundation / Re: Proficiency with the Beast [vote]
« on: December 06, 2015, 05:02:24 AM »

  • 30 days per tail. You must post rp to this effect during that time pertaining to communing and/or training with your beast.
  • Beast taming ability KGs will be RP based only. Resets do not decrease number of days to proficiency as that is an OOC issue.
Call me messed up but I don't want to be 'forced' to RP anything that I'm not interested in. For example, bijuu training. I think some people would rather just count the days and when it's up, they edit their profile. >.>

And I would imagine it would easier to 'tame' a beast than to 'master' it. The Naruto manga showed us that.

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If a Jinchuriki attempts to access more tails than they have mastered they will lose control of the beast. If they were not already in a V2 cloak they will immediately ascend to such at the level of tails they attempted to access. They must then rp is much the same way as Naruto having lost control of Kurama. The host is unconscious and subject to the whims of a furious bijuu. They will attack perpetually until anything that could be perceived as an opponent is killed, this includes their own summons, such as animals or Edo Tensei zombies. The host will gain a tail each turn starting after the turn they first lost control. After reaching the maximum number of tails in the V2 state the host will ascend to the full bijuu form on the next turn. If this happens the host is killed and the challenger need only subdue the rampaging bijuu to win the match. [Note: This is a stopping the match issue, until the consequences of accessing powers that have not been acquired are included.]

I think this is a little, well, not heavy-handed, but too handy. I mean, just think about it, you have a challenger barely hanging on in a 1v1 match, and then the host decides to forcefully use more than usual as an actual strategy to kill off the challenger and have the biju either be turned over to the village (preservation of village beast) or be under their GMing.

I think it would be better to just not allow it all, and consider that god-modding.

I agree with this.

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Rules/Foundation / Judging a Match (Discussion)
« on: December 06, 2015, 04:50:12 AM »
So Kay made rulings on 'judging a match' and I disagree with several points listed.
In quotation (teal) are my comments towards the ruling mentioned above of it.
Now discuss.

  • Both parties choose a judge and abide by their decision.
  • In the unlikely event of the gross incompetence of the judge, both parties must agree upon a new judge and this second ruling shall be the final word for good or for ill.
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I don't agree because that was the judge's fault and s/he should live with it. There's no rush / timetable on giving a ruling. Of course, you would prefer one within 1 week time (a few days at least).
  • Judges are NOT to be replaced because they do not agree with you. Cycling through judges until you get a ruling you like is NOT abiding by the rules and considered an abuse. One warning will be issued.
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I disagree because people are entitled to have a second opinion if they feel they need one regardless. That's like saying, I'm not allowed to have a second opinion about my medical condition/treatment because I don't agree with the first doctor. 
  • No unresolved issues will be tolerated... As such:
  • Compromises must be made in the event of a deadlock. Failure to come to terms after every option has been exhausted will result in stripping, challenger denied, and the bijuu handled according to the Stripping Rules. Both challenger and host will be denied access to all things bijuu for 3 months due to gross incompetence.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the purpose of the Council is to resolve 'unresolved issues'? This is literally giving the Council more work than necessary because the time/effort into the Stripping process.
  • Council members are ineligible to be chosen as judges.
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I disagree and we are still in the process of voting on this matter.
  • Attempts to commit fraud by providing a judge who is an alt [for your own match] by either party will result in a perma-ban of all things bijuu.
  • Judges will acquaint themselves with the rules of all things bijuu, the preference list of the host, the terms agreed upon by the participants, and commit to activity.
  • Judges may have to play crowd control in the event of a public verbal abusive fight. In the event of such an issue, the judge should make one post requesting that this behavior cease, to arrange to mediate between the parties in private, and place the match on hold. Should this warning/request be ignored, the judge should refer the matter to a site Mod/staff and not be drawn into participating in such behaviors.
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Isn't that the responsibility of a site Mod/staff? Personally, all I expect from a judge is to post their ruling and the reasoning behind it. To expect a judge to do crowd control is too much.

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Rules/Foundation / Re: Stripping a Host [vote]
« on: December 06, 2015, 04:30:14 AM »
No to the following:

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The bijuu goes to village or clan leader.

Just send it to the Council from the get-go and cut out the middle man, especially if stripping occurred due to misconduct during a fight. From there, the Council decides on where it goes (obviously they cannot choose themselves).

I agree.

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I'm of course willing to make rules for it. You should still only be able to summon one bijuu in a fight. And as I mentioned before you should be required to defend them simultaneously. If I have the 4 and 9 tails and Billy Joe challenges me for the 4 tails and Joey Bill challenges me for the 9 tails I have to fight them both at the same time 2v1 (or 1v1v1 depending on how much they want to work together).

Any other ideas for rules for owning multiple bijuu?

I'll admit that I did not read this part of your post, Bocc.
Can you PM me your endgoal again? I forgot what it was.

And I'm confused, isn't what putting 9 bijuu into mazo is what makes a ten tail which most of us disagree on?

In regards to Eric's post, they can still make a custom jutsu that will equal world destruction with all 9 bijuu at their disposal. But I disagree with the 2-3 max bijuu ownership rule.


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Okay, but this relates to the rules you put up. You posted 7 days and I'm asking if can be extended, given certain circumstances. >.>

Do I really have to make a thread for something like that?

Just to make sure for future reference, if I disagree with parts of your ruling, I have to make a thread about it?

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I'm okay with owning more than one bijuu.
I'm not okay with the possibility of having a 10 tails.

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Can it be an option? Sure, but something that must be agreed upon by all parties involved.

For instance: Mary Sue has the one tail and the two tail and Todd wants the one tail and they are fighting. Then Johnny Rotten comes along to try for the two tails? Mary Sue is like, fine jump on in Johnny, but Todd is more exclusive and like...nope...get your own room, cause Johnny just might throw off my stride.

Mary Sue would then have to conduct two separate matches at the same time, in an OOC manner. However, if Todd is up to the diversity too, then go for it.

I would assumed each would have their own OOC matches.
Has a host really allowed a 2v1 against him/herself in the past? Just curious.

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Rules/Foundation / Re: Judging a Match [vote]
« on: December 06, 2015, 04:04:08 AM »
In my last post, I meant 'Isn't that the responsibility of a site Mod/staff? Personally, all I expect from a judge is to post their ruling and the reasoning behind it. To expect a judge to do crowd control is too much. >.>'

But hopefully most of you knew that. Don't feel like editing my last post. >.>


be defined, especially if standards for biju RP fighting are not adopted. Otherwise we'll be debating if gross incompetence occurred at all if only one party has a disagreement with the ruling (or even if two).

Actually I would assume the judge would admit to his/her own "gross incompetence", not any of the match participants.

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In addition, I would assume the host and the challenger would have already picked a date to start their match. Say, the terms of the match was accepted, but both parties decided to do it a week or 2 later. Is that not okay?

For example, the previous match happened to end before Christmas and usually the time between Christmas and New Year's can be busy. So both parties decided to do after New Year's.


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You may not challenge yourself on an alt.
For some reason, I read that as 'You may not judge yourself on an alt.' o.o
But yeah, how can you prove such? And would be wrong in doing such as well? Technically speaking, there's no need for this rule since can't the host just simply 'give' their bijuu to their alt anyway? o.o

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Rules/Foundation / Re: Judging a Match [vote]
« on: December 06, 2015, 03:17:44 AM »
No.

People are entitled to have a second opinion if they feel they need one regardless.
That's like saying, I'm not allowed to have a second opinion about my medical condition/treatment because I don't agree with the first doctor.

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"In the unlikely event of the gross incompetence of the judge, both parties must agree upon a new judge and this second ruling shall be the final word for good or for ill."
I don't agree because that was the judge's fault and s/he should live with it. There's no rush / timetable on giving a ruling. Of course, you would prefer one within 1 week time (a few days at least).

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"Judges are NOT to be replaced because they do not agree with you. Cycling through judges until you get a ruling you like is NOT abiding by the rules and considered an abuse. One warning will be issued."
As I mentioned earlier, I don't agree with this.

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"No unresolved issues will be tolerated... As such:
Compromises must be made in the event of a deadlock. Failure to come to terms after every option has been exhausted will result in stripping, challenger denied, and the bijuu handled according to the Stripping Rules. Both challenger and host will be denied access to all things bijuu for 3 months due to gross incompetence."
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the purpose of the Council is to resolve 'unresolved issues'? This is literally giving the Council more work than necessary because the time/effort into the Stripping process.

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"Council members are ineligible to be chosen as judges."
I disagree and aren't we still in the process of voting on this matter. o.o

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"Judges may have to play crowd control in the event of a public verbal abusive fight. In the event of such an issue, the judge should make one post requesting that this behavior cease, to arrange to mediate between the parties in private, and place the match on hold. Should this warning/request be ignored, the judge should refer the matter to a site Mod/staff and not be drawn into participating in such behaviors."
Isn't that the judge of a site Mod/staff? Personally, all I expect from a judge is to post their ruling and the reasoning behind it. To expect a judge to do crowd control is too much. >.>

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Rules/Foundation / Re: Forum Account [vote]
« on: December 06, 2015, 02:44:01 AM »
Yes.

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No.

"If the challenger does not begin setting up the match with the host within 7 days of notification he is skipped and bumped to the bottom of the challenge list. Make edits to challenger list to reflect this bump."

I don't understand why is the challenger the one setting up the match when usually every bijuu match (on the forums) starts with the bijuu owner's post of preference list / rules. It's only when the challenger accepts it, that the match actually starts. And generally the acceptance is immediately followed by an entry post, all in the same 'reply'.

So personally I feel it's the bijuu owner that needs to set it up and it would show proof of the challenge being accepted.

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Rules/Foundation / Re: Activity Clause [vote]
« on: December 06, 2015, 02:32:16 AM »
No.

"Extenuating circumstances during an active match: Here the activity clause is 7 days, in order to keep the fight moving along to a conclusion. Posting for a leave of absence is essential to holding your slot in the match. Should this not be possible, the council will determine how to handle the situation at the time of your return upon request dependent upon a challenger waiting list, if the beast has already been transferred, or how it impacts current RP. All decisions of the council will be binding."

Why should the council discuss something over this when the last section gives the Jink/bijuu owner a reset of 14 days? You might as well just give the person another week (preferably less; a few extra  days) to post.

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