Shinobi Legends Forum
Casual => Game Related Discussions => Topic started by: Masane on January 12, 2015, 07:06:16 AM
-
So like my brother I am getting tired of the Wooden Copy wheel. Would it okay with you guys if I to go from this-
Rinnegan (6/6)
Hachimon (1/2)
Mokuton (4/4)
Sharingan (4/4)
◈Summon Contract: Phoenix(Contract signer) Ichirou(Summon tattoo)
◈Chakra:
◈Control-Master
◈Sensing-Master
◈Capacity-Grand Master
◈Element Affinities:
~Master of all five chakra affinities
◈Hachimon Susano'o(Creator)
◈Rasengan Master
◈Tools:
◈Chakra reserve bracelets
To--
Sage mode (6/6)
Hachimon (1/2)
Scorch Release (2/4)
Sharingan (4/4)
◈Summon Contract: Phoenix(Contract holder) Ichirou(Summon tattoo)
◈Chakra:
◈Control-Master
◈Sensing-Expert
◈Capacity-Grand Master
◈Element Affinities:
-Fire (Epxert)
-Wind (Epxert)
-Water (Adept)
-Lightning (Adept)
◈Hachimon Susano'o(Creator-Only able to reach gate 3 in this state)
◈Rasengan Master
◈Tools:
◈Koton enhanced Melody arm
I am also doing this to nerf my self as I find the Rinnegan to be op. Using makes fighting no fun. I hope you all find the to be acceptable.
-
If you want to lose all your claims, sure. You have to have a new character if you want to just completely change like that, essentially. It would be a different character who wouldn't be gaining anything from rp you've done on your previous character. That would make it fair I'd say. We can do it that way and not have to limit the amount of times you can do it, just make you actually start over. Instead of just completely changing one characters genetic make up for no reason.
Sabumaru did this about a million times, he was just always a different person named Sabumaru. Generally they behaved relatively the same way, but it was an excuse for him to have different KG. I'm pretty sure he rp'd with every KG that exists at one point or another.
-
It would be the same Machina just without Rinnegan and Mokuton. Everything else would remain, Hiraishin is being discussed now with me and Tsyuo because he is killing himself.
-
Yes that's what I don't agree with. There's no logical reason to suddenly stop having Rinnegan and Mokuton and develop Sage Mode and Scorch Release. You would have to make a new character.
If you want to make a new Machina, you can, but how can Tsuyo give you anything when YOU rp him being dead just like me?
If you don't want to make a new character I'll even let you claim Living Corpse Reincarnation from me so you can do what you're trying to do AND have an explainable reason for it. You'd just have to find a body to steal so it likely wouldn't be exactly what KG you want.
Long story short, do what you want, but find a legitimate reason to do so IC if you expect to challenge me for a bijuu, because I'm not acknowledging changelings in rp.
-
It would not be like I lost the Rinnegan and the dead Manji thing was just to fight you and Night. I dont rp with that. All the other rp containing Mokuton and Rinnegan would be voided and I can start training more on the alternate abilities. I'm not saying that Id keep Manji's knowledge, I just want to change Machi hoew Ichi did Ichi. You never complained about that so there is no reason that I cant do this and I'm making myself weaker and am about to train my face off in these new abilities. Fighting with the Rinnegan is no fun and I'm not making a new Machina. Tsyou is about to kill himself wich means I lose Hiraishin and Edo which Edo I dont care for but Hiraishin, I'll have to fight harder and train more and this is how I'm going to do it.
-
Ichirou didn't have any claims beyond his custom summons so far as I was aware. As I said if you lose those claims, Edo and Hiraishin and the various things you got from Manji then that's fine with me, I have no issue.
Since Manji died in Iwa and I merely allowed you to Edo Tensei him, and you're now voiding that, I'm going to Edo Tensei him and claim what I wanted from him in the first place, the Kusanagi. Everything else I already have obviously since it's just jutsu he got from me.
I don't actually want the zombie since I don't really ever have a reason to use Edo Tensei so I will release it after I get the sword back. He'll be dead in all timelines, I'll just be claiming the Kusanagi and his eyes, and the world can go, relatively, back to normal.
-
He just left me the Hiraishin scroll so you are screwed on that. Ichi had the Rashomon gates before he changed and he kept that. The only things I'm keeping his Hiraishin, the Phoenix and the Incineration tech. Mayfly too because he taught me that. Way before this. There wont be a body left anyway. Complete incineration.
-
He was only dead because that was the only way to fight you and night it never happened in my world I still rped with him. I'm trying to end the rp rift about him being dead here and alive there.
-
Well when I'm forced to interact with you our worlds become one. You rp'd with me that Tsuyo was killed in Iwa and you gained a bunch of stuff from that, which you then tried to use to capture a bijuu from me. So no I won't accept rp from you to the contrary now.
Kirk killed him in Iwa, is what I was and will continue to rp.
If he left you his scroll that's great. If you want to do this reset thing and also challenge me for a bijuu then you won't have it anyway. Let me reiterate again the options I accept for this, as far as being legitimate to challenge me goes.
#1 You make a new character: It can be another person named Machina, but she won't have anything from your current version of the character. You won't have Hiraishin, or Incineration, or any of those things. That's the fair trade off. If you want to wipe your character and get all new KG then you have to ACTUALLY wipe the character.
#2 You use Living Corpse Reincarnation: That would let you keep your IC knowledge and get new KG. It's just, as I said, it's unlikely you'll find a body with exactly the KG you planned on using.
As I said that's just if you want me to accept your challenge. Otherwise do whatever hooplah you want to get up to.
-
Alts are fun. They allow you to rp all the kgs.
-
Alts are fun. They allow you to rp all the kgs.
Yeah that too. Also falling under the "Make a new character" side of things.
-
I am not doing that. He is about to die anyway. Anything before now can be voided like my Rinnegan and Mokuton. You dont rule this site and I think it's a fair change considering I'm getting weaker. I'll even stat a new zone record because I used those KG in those fights. I'm not losing stuff that he taught me before he died. Same Machina just one that never use Rinnegan or Mokuton.
-
And I was goingto revive him after the fight any way to stop the rp rift, Either way, you cant take what he taught me.
-
Didn't Kirk do this? Didn't her own brother? Didn't Trev? Didn't (insert long list)
Why are we trying to stop her?
-
He hates me. Ichi has things from Manji that he kept and Boccwas cool. He is doing this to be mean.
-
Anything before now can be voided like my Rinnegan and Mokuton.
Except any specific things you feel like keeping.
I don't rule anything except for what I consider to be legitimate rp. Voiding portions of your character and history and morphing into someone with different KG but still the same claims and experiences is not something that falls under that category.
I said that though. I'm not trying to stop you from rping with anyone else, I'm not one of the people who goes around saying everyone should void someone because they're doing something I don't agree with.
So as I said before I will again reiterate. I explained to you what you could do that would be legitimate so as you could still challenge me for a bijuu. Since I am in fact going to claim I can Edo Tensei Tsuyo faster than you can learn Edo Tensei from scratch, from a scroll, and then revive him, I'm going to take back my sword and his eyes. As usual if you don't like it you don't have to rp with me. He's going to be dead to everyone now, apparently there will just by some differences in opinion on where his things ended up, that's fine by me.
Yes, Shadow, all of those people did do various things, god mod or otherwise, that I did not agree with, but the difference is none of them were doing it and then forcing me to accept something I do not agree with and rp with them. Most of them are reasonable individuals so I did not mind and I rp'd with most of them at a later date.
There are just as many people who came up with legitimate reasons for having KG changes as there are people who decided to just flip-flop about.
I'm not stopping anyone from doing anything, but I'm just letting it be known what I will acknowledge in rp, since I know she intends on challenging me.
Like I already mentioned, I did not know Ichirou had any claims besides his custom summons, which he could of course just claim to be summoner of again on his new character. If he is still claiming things from Tsuyo he should not. I allowed him to keep Hiraishin since I had JUST allowed him to use it and decided to go, ok, we'll say it was on this Ichirou.
-
I'm voiding everything from before I met Tsuyo and he wont have a body for you. He is leaving me his things until reincarnation is over. You are trying to force me to do what I dont want and this is not a reason to deny my challenges. I'm doing it and you will have to deal with it. Many people have done it and I cam too you dont control this site and This is happening.
-
Yes I can deny your challenge when you expect me to put up with not even remotely reasonable rp.
I can bend my own rules for people who are my friends or are friendly acquaintances (of which you are neither) and rp with things that are not exactly up to par. I did it when I rp'd with Dark. He had some move where he turns to light and moves at the speed of light. Ok, I would void that in a second in a bijuu fight but we were just rping to have a good rp, so I allowed it.
I do not have to do that for everyone and I will not be doing it for you. I'm already going beyond just neutrally following my rules by offering you Living Corpse Reincarnation and a legitimate means in which to do this but you don't want to, I guess.
Mystically changing KG with no explainable IC reason is god modding, plain and simple, and the bijuu rules state that god modding is not allowed. It would make no sense if I just rp'd in Iwa one day that I deactivated my Rinnegan and suddenly I know Sage Mode, I wouldn't expect anyone to say that was legitimate rp. So I'm certainly not going to.
You don't have to rp with me, you don't have to challenge me for a bijuu, don't honestly, that'd be great. But if you're going to then there's going to be some semblance of decent rp.
-
I got a solution. I will lose everything he tough me, and before he dies he is giving it all back to me as my new set up. Cant argue with that
-
I got a solution. I will lose everything he tough me, and before he dies he is giving it all back to me as my new set up. Cant argue with that
Unless I was to say I'm not accepting that because he's already dead, Kirk killed him in Iwa several months ago. Which is what I already said I was doing.
"You rp'd with me that Tsuyo was killed in Iwa and you gained a bunch of stuff from that, which you then tried to use to capture a bijuu from me. So no I won't accept rp from you to the contrary now."
-
Then I'll revive him and then remake the character.
-
Then I'll revive him and then remake the character.
Well I'll just keep him as an Edo zombie then as I write up my rp for reviving him and getting my sword back instead of releasing him.
-
Bocc, I have his body. He can tell me what I need to know as an Edo. Then I can revive him. How would you use him as an Edo then?
-
Bocc, I have his body. He can tell me what I need to know as an Edo. Then I can revive him. How would you use him as an Edo then?
Because he died in Iwa, inside a Space-Time barrier, and I was brought his body. You never had his body, I just assumed you were claiming to revive him with some spare DNA that you could have claimed to have had. So no I wouldn't accept that.
-
Though you are right, I had chunks of him in my Kamui. That is how I edo'd him. And not that I know what you are going to do I just wont revive him and he can tell me what I need to know. Point blank. If he is my puppet, then how will you Edo him if I already did?
-
Though you are right, I had chunks of him in my Kamui. That is how I edo'd him. And not that I know what you are going to do I just wont revive him and he can tell me what I need to know. Point blank. If he is my puppet, then how will you Edo him if I already did?
Because, oh one of much indecisiveness, you can't just claim both.
"He was only dead because that was the only way to fight you and night it never happened in my world I still rped with him."
Ok so he never died to you, which means you don't have him as an Edo Tensei. Which means I'm going to do it (or rather I did it back when the attack finished) instead. You want to claim the benefits of both him dying and being alive.
-
Are we really suggesting going back in time as 'legitimate rp' now? How long has it really been since I died, and Machina inheriting my stuff due to it all being right there where she could instantly access it? Quite a while, right? That left plenty room for you to resurrect me, and take my belongings but you did not, and Machina got to them first, and removed all hiraishin seals right there. Let's shut that case right there. That's rewriting established history and quite frankly god modding in its own right as well as retro on an extreme, something I hear you're not into these days.
You guys had a bijuu fight with me already resurrected as an edo tensei zombie. To my knowledge it was not voided but instead she had forfeited, and therefore took the loss, hence why she cannot challenge you for another two months. That means that I am currently edo'd by Machina and this is accepted by both parties since the fight was taken to its completion stage. Bocc, you have accepted this and thus do not have any right over any of the stuff Machina has.
Machina, randomly changing your character under normal circumstances is less consequential but is not currently a good idea -at least for me- since that too will rewrite everything (that is, if you don't want bocc getting his way yet again). My suggestion is not voiding me being edo'd, and simply waiting for a point in time where Bocc can't try to dictate what you do.
Really though this is all just input from a bystander. With that being said, can the back and forth stop now? It may be bothersome for others to read. And no going back in time for either of you. We don't have that technology right now.
-
You cant rp him as being dead when the guy who 'killed' him said he did not kill him due the fact that he voided himself being here, AND the whole rp got voided if I remember correctly so YOU dont have him as an Edo either which means he can give me his things before he kills himself.
-
Actually it gives me something to read while I'm in insomnia mode. ~
-
Like you said, I did accept it, then she voided it, which I've accepted, which she's now trying to void again. You're dead, you're alive, you're dead, you're alive. You're getting some serious frequent flier miles to the great beyond here.
I am continuing my rp that Tsuyo was killed in Iwa. Since Machina wants to void her involvement then I'm going to claim my things. It's what I would have rp'd without her involvement in the first place.
I was IN that rp and as I stated starting then I no longer accept voids for reasons like, "I'm bored now, my ally died and I'm dipping, etc." So I rp'd that Tsuyo and Trev died in the attack and the rest of them fled. I'm not letting people take up weeks of my time in rp and then decide the whole thing is erased. If they do I'm going to concoct a reasonable IC explanation for why the event stopped.
-
It's her void so she can rescind it if she wishes. After all, a rescinded void is how you're RPing today.
As for Shadow, I know the feel man. Gotta get to work, but i'd rather help resolve this situation for my friend before I go to bed. Doesn't help that I can barely sleep anyway.
-
Like you said, I did accept it, then she voided it, which I've accepted, which she's now trying to void again. You're dead, you're alive, you're dead, you're alive. You're getting some serious frequent flier miles to the great beyond here.
I am continuing my rp that Tsuyo was killed in Iwa. Since Machina wants to void her involvement then I'm going to claim my things. It's what I would have rp'd without her involvement in the first place.
I was IN that rp and as I stated starting then I no longer accept voids for reasons like, "I'm bored now, my ally died and I'm dipping, etc." So I rp'd that Tsuyo and Trev died in the attack and the rest of them fled. I'm not letting people take up weeks of my time in rp and then decide the whole thing is erased. If they do I'm going to concoct a reasonable IC explanation for why the event stopped.
So accepted his death so that I Edo him just to fight you and nothing more. In your world he is dead even though Kirk voided himself being there and the rp go voided. So either way, I dont have him as an Edo and you dont either because he is alive. This 'both ways' crap your talking about it nonsense.
I think our fight should have been voided now that I think about it. But like I said, he could not have died in an rp that did not get voided and even if it was not voided, Kirk wont there to kill him so he is still alive and free go give me what you dont want me to have.
-
Well I'm nearly done with my rp to revive you and regain the Kusanagi and such (Sannin Level Dark Cave) and I don't feel like voiding that because someone cannot make up their mind about how they best wish to filet their character's history. If someone figures out how any of this is supposed to make sense be sure to let me know. Until then I will continue with what makes sense to me.
@ MAchina: You're literally quoting me explaining how I was in that rp and did not void it and yet you're speaking of the opposite.
-
Kirk voided him not being there so how did manji die? My mind in made up and he is ALIVE because that 'Death' crap was so I could fight. If I won I was going to revive him. THats how this makes seance. What opposite am I speaking of? THathe above clearly states it perfectly
-
Kirk voided him not being there so how did manji die? My mind in made up and he is ALIVE because that 'Death' crap was so I could fight. If I won I was going to revive him. THats how this makes seance. What opposite am I speaking of? THathe above clearly states it perfectly
"I'm not letting people take up weeks of my time in rp and then decide the whole thing is erased. If they do I'm going to concoct a reasonable IC explanation for why the event stopped."
"I was IN that rp and as I stated starting then I no longer accept voids for reasons like, "I'm bored now, my ally died and I'm dipping, etc.""
Man, I don't know, I wish I had already explained my logic behind that or something.
Do whatever you like, just don't expect to be doing it with me.
-
*slams his head deep within the confines of his wall* All that needs to be done here is to rescind your void on me being edo tensei'd by you and hold off on the char changing for a bit. This way, his RP gets voided, he can't take tools that don't belong to him and the RP rift gets more narrow, and actually closable. That's quite literally all you have to say, Machina. It would avoid more arguments, etc...
-
Done
-
Unless of course I had already accepted her first void and started to rp thusly, so that the void made sense. So no, I don't feel like voiding this,
(57m20s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere Notes this rp is taking place in the past, just after Tsuyo and Trev were killed attacking Iwagakure.
> (55m27s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere would have had his ANBU bring him Tsuyo's body, upon the man's death at the hands of Kirk. Sabu had taken Trev's and that was fine, the Otokage was of no consequence to him. Bocchiere would take the fresh corpse and Hiraishin with it to one of -
> (53m54s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - his labs in the Mountain's Graveyard. Appearing with the corpse draped over his arms, carrying it like the body of a lost friend, Bocchiere would walk to an operating table with it before unceremoniously dropping it onto the metal table with -
> (50m20s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - a loud *thud*. He would work on the severed head first, as the eyes would be one of the first things to go once decomposition started to set in. Small claw-like devices would allow him to pry the eye sockets wide open and pull the valuable -
> (46m45s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - spheres from their resting place. A quick snip would server the optic nerve and they would be taken by Bocch and assimilated into his own body via Jiongu, his back specifically, where his store of spare Sharingan would now be increased to 3. -
> (45m1s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - Next would be the blood. There is of course not a full bodies worth left inside, considering the grievous wound, but Bocchiere would still exsanguinate the man for what he could. Some would be kept on hand for the ritual he intends to soon -
> (43m8s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - perform while the remainder would be stored in the Jashin no Keshin, should the need to use it again ever arise. Knowing how rarely people stayed dead it would likely not be long. After this process the internal organs would follow the same -
> (36m49s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - path as the eyes and blood. Most of them were trash of course, but the heart could be saved. Bocchiere himself was topped off but it could be implanted inside of Saejima to further empower him. Finally, Bocchiere would be ready for the man's -
> (24m34s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - final acts in this world. The Akatsuki leader would unleash a man trapped in his Kamui dimension, Jin Kazama, bound and sealed of course, onto the floor. Making the necessary kata beforehand, Bocchiere would place his hand on the floor and -
> (23m20s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - unfurl the large, complicated, Edo Tensei seal. Kazama was in the middle surrounded by a pile of ash and dirt. The man would move to the body and slice off a piece to use. Moving to the proper place Bocchiere would set the piece of bloody -
> (20m3s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - flesh down on the seal and make the required kata, "Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei." the dirt and ash would begin to swirl around Kazama, sticking to his body as it does. The man would begin to scream in pain as the material overtook him and the -
> (18m33s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - the deceased's soul was drawn into his still-living body. Kazama would die and in his place would be the Edo Tensei zombie of Tsuyo, his flesh grey and cracked, his eyes blank. Bocchiere would quickly move to zombie and insert a seal in -
> (10m20s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - the man's head that would bind him to his will, completely sealing his emotions. The cracks in his skin would partially seal and the tone would turn to one more reminiscent of life. His eyes would light up as the zombie became "active". -
> (7m11s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere would take a step back from him and say, "Well, my old protege. Let's see if you've managed to keep a hold on any of my things. Please, retrieve Samehada." Bocchiere would make a kata to express his order to the undead, though it would make-
> (2m40s) <暁> 真 Bocchiere - no movements, as Tsuyo does not possess Samehada any longer. "Well, that's a dissapointment. How about, retrieve the Kusanagi no Tsurugi." Another kata would be made and this time Tsuyo would summon the blade to him in a wooden sheathe. -
and accepting another void. I would void that void, you might say. Which would be something like a quadruple void, I don't honestly care.
-
Too bad, you need to void it He is my Edo like you wanted
-
I only voided it the first time because it was for an OOC fight only and I stated that I would revive him So..no I wont accept that.
-
The RP isn't even finished. She is in the clear.
-
My Edo hubby
-
And you guys can continue to rp where you can change reality mid-post and I'm apparently supposed to deal with that.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, I'm going to go finish my rp.
I'm also going to continue to void these people who are whining about how I'm trying to ceaselessly control their every move by telling them I'm not going to rp with them if their rp is just nonsensical.
They are then going to respond with the fact that I need to void my rp's and accept everything that they do regardless of what I consider to be legitimate rp. Because apparently on the planet they are from there is no such thing as irony.
-
He is mine and I'm going to revive him. You are going to have to deal with it.
-
He is mine and I'm going to revive him. You are going to have to deal with it.
I am. It's called Not Rping With You. You should try it some time.
-
IN fact, I'm keeing him Edo'd Even IF you did Edo him, I would STIll have ALL of his stuff/ So whatever. YOu will always have to deal with me so long as you have the beast I want.
-
IN fact, I'm keeing him Edo'd Even IF you did Edo him, I would STIll have ALL of his stuff/ So whatever. YOu will always have to deal with me so long as you have the beast I want.
I am. It's called Not Rping With You. You should try it some time.
-
For doing what you originally wanted to do? And your rp was unfinished before I voided my claim so you lose. And like I said you cant get any of his things because when he 'Died" I got all his things so whaterever.
-
It's called reality, as in while you're takin a dump, the world continues to move around. It isn't our fault you jumped the gun before a decision was finalized. It isn't our fault you feel you have to regulate things and slap "LEGITIMATE" or the opposite on something because of whatever complex you have.
And you're getting defensive because someone tells you what to accept and what not to accept, well what do you think you are doing by taking the kusanagi and eyes from someone who already owns them, and has owned them for a month and so? Being a hypocrite that's what. No matter how this goes, you two will be RPing with each other. Why? Because you have the nine tails at the end of the day. No matter what rift there is, you two share worlds. SL is the world that you two share. Having everyone RP in their own little box is not what a community game is for.
"I'm not RPing with you" Won't work so long as you have a bijuu. You lost that luxury the moment you decided to get one. I'm just saying that if we're on the same site, we may as well go for unification instead of tearing it apart. It's rather foolish.
-
This is going NOWHERE.
So there's options.
Keep going back and forth and get no where.
Or
Wait until others give their opinions.
You guys aren't going to agree on your own.
-
Look who finally got bored of the backs and forths. Why not give your opinion then? What do you think of the situation at hand.
-
I don't feel like trying to wrap my whole head around this thing as it will only give me a headache. I have more important stuff to think about.
I'm confused as hell as to if she voids you or not and a lot of other stuff since it was changed so many times.
-
D'aww, and here I was trying to give you something good to read. And don't we all.
The final result she landed on was that she accepts me as an edo tensei like she originally did. Bout all there is to know for this situation that i'm willing to think of at the moment. I'm headed to bed though so i'll see what happens later on. Peace out.
-
I just want to Re do my character. I wanted to void Everything before I met Manji while I was using the Rinnegan. Bocc wants me to lose everything I got from him but I want to be the same machi just different KG. Ichirou dud it and it was fine. Now before manji dies either in iaw or on his ow, he could leave me his stuff because we would still rp the marriage.
-
ºNo God-Moddingº God-Modding has been recognized as an incorrect claim of one or more super-powers incapable of one's possession or against what one's character establishes. Several other things have been regarded God-Modding such as dodging every attack, extreme maneuvers & such. If God-Modding should occur, the opposing party will object to it & things can be negotiated from there.
As Machina is claiming multiple god-mod powers, such as the ability to restructure her genetic make-up at will to have different Kekkei Genkai as well as rapidly and consecutively alter reality to change the past to suit her whims I will not be rping with her, bijuu challenge or otherwise.
-
THat is not what I'm doing. I want to VOID everything before Manji and everything that I used the Rinnegan for. Wood too. Ichi did it and you did not say anything. I think that you are just doing this to push my buttons. THere is no god modding her I'm not changing the past, I just want to remake my character. Same Girl different KG, like the other Machina would not have been. Just the one I remake
-
Even the fight with you I think should e voided. ANYTHING I used the wooden copy wheel for would be voided and I can start training under my new stuf and have Manji as an Edo because before whatever death, he gave me his stuff and his eyes to bring him back. What is so hard about that?
-
As I already explained, which you continue to ignore, I thought Ichirou did make a new character, since he changed his surname and everything. If he is still retaining things Tsuyo taught him then that's not cool.
Yes, I know, you want to go back and alter the past to change Machina into a different person. That is what you just described while in the next sentence saying that's not what you're doing.
You can do it, I don't care, I'm just not going to rp with you. I'm flattered that you want to rp with me so much that this causes you a problem but, maybe you've heard, I just don't care.
-
Its okay for you to void stuff but I cant? I'm doing it and I dont care if you dont want to rp with me you will have no choice because I'm coming for your beast. You cant control what does not belong to you. I have a way for do it so you cant ignore it. I'm changing my character and you will have to deal.
-
So like my brother I am getting tired of the Wooden Copy wheel. Would it okay with you guys if I to go from this-
Rinnegan (6/6)
Hachimon (1/2)
Mokuton (4/4)
Sharingan (4/4)
◈Summon Contract: Phoenix(Contract signer) Ichirou(Summon tattoo)
◈Chakra:
◈Control-Master
◈Sensing-Master
◈Capacity-Grand Master
◈Element Affinities:
~Master of all five chakra affinities
◈Hachimon Susano'o(Creator)
◈Rasengan Master
◈Tools:
◈Chakra reserve bracelets
To--
Sage mode (6/6)
Hachimon (1/2)
Scorch Release (2/4)
Sharingan (4/4)
◈Summon Contract: Phoenix(Contract holder) Ichirou(Summon tattoo)
◈Chakra:
◈Control-Master
◈Sensing-Expert
◈Capacity-Grand Master
◈Element Affinities:
-Fire (Epxert)
-Wind (Epxert)
-Water (Adept)
-Lightning (Adept)
◈Hachimon Susano'o(Creator-Only able to reach gate 3 in this state)
◈Rasengan Master
◈Tools:
◈Koton enhanced Melody arm
I am also doing this to nerf my self as I find the Rinnegan to be op. Using makes fighting no fun. I hope you all find the to be acceptable.
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,8261.0.html
I've got to say I've grown more or less tired of the wooden copywheel character, and after my little bit of rp on Izumi (turns out I don't enjoy playing as female characters) I decided to see if you all would be okay if I got a character reset
My bio would go from this:
◈Full Name: Senju, Ichirou
◈Summoning Contract:Sphinx(holder), Scorpions(signer), Machina Uzumaki(summoning tattoo)
◈Element Affinities:
- Has mastered all five Nature Transformations (Rinnegan)
◈Special Abilities:
Ototon
Mokuton [4/4]
Rinnegan [6/6]
Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan [4/4]
Hachimon Tonkō [2/2]
Jūjin Taijutsu
Iaidō
Rasengan
Hiraishin
Fission
Kekkai Genjutsu
◈Kinjutsu:
Iwagakure Kinjutsu(Non Bakuton)
◈Tools:
Midasu, Surudoi, Noise cancelling ear buds, Specially stitched combat gloves, Ninken(1), Melody Arm, Jutsu Scrolls(3), Eikan's body.
To this:
◈Full Name: Hyuuga, Ichirou
◈Summoning Contract:Sphinx(holder), Scorpions(signer), Machina Uzumaki(summoning tattoo)
◈Element Affinities:
- Master Doton
- Master Futon
- Adept Katon
◈Special Abilities:
Ototon
Sage Mode [6/6]
Byakugan [4/4]
Shikotsumyaku [2/2]
Jūjin Taijutsu
Rasengan
Hiraishin
Fission
Kekkai Genjutsu
◈Kinjutsu:
Iwagakure Kinjutsu(Non Bakuton)
◈Tools:
Specially stitched combat gloves, Ninken(1), Melody Arm, Jutsu Scrolls(3),
I'd like to switch out Mokuton for Hyouton but I didn't know if people would be upset about it, or this as a general thing
So, what is different? You switched the dojutsu, took away some of your special tools, mastery of all 5 elements and Iado?
Well, no one can/is going to stop you, but I don't see how that is abandoning the wooden wheel altogether.
Pasting all of that saves me a significant amount of paraphrasing, and makes it much easier to get across my point. I made it plainly clear that Ichirou was hardly changing anything about his character, and as can be viewed, hardly any opposition was presented at the time. As Shadow pointed out, these changes obviously could not take place in the middle of my biju match with him, and they did not take place even as the fight is pretty much concluded.
Now Machina is, in principle, doing the exact same thing. As I said before, no one is really going to stop you from making this change, because it's your character. Did he reset all of his history along with it? Unlikely, but I am not going to claim to keep tabs on Ichirou beyond our biju fights (a mistake I will not make again Ichi. ;P).
Bocc, as the jinch of the 9-tails and the summoner of the 4-tails, then you have to accept her challenge. We have already been over this with Dart, and Kayenta, and Warren, and even myself in the dark closet. When you are a jinchurikii or possess a tailed beast in any capacity, you're privelage to completely dictate your own RP is no longer yours. You have to have your biju match with Machina.
Now, if it makes you feel better, you can change your rules and make it OOC if the principle of RPing is too much for you to handle. Your beast(s) is/are still up for contest, but nobody dies at the end and you basically leave without any IC scars.
Either way, you are obligated to have your biju match or face being stripped.
Now then, towards Machina. I am guessing you are going to use your new line-up in our fight, and your observations of my fight with Ichirou may have inspired you to pick up Scorch Release. It's speculation, but that's just me poking fun at some of the changes that you decided to make. :P
It can be argued that your changing up a little bit more than Ichirou, but while I can't exactly say your timing (considering the conflict with Dart earlier) is the best, remaking your character is not something that you can be stopped from doing. How that affects your RP situation is largely up to the people you RP with on whether they pretend you've always been that way or want to "re-meet you", with biju holders being the mild exceptions here.
That's my take on the matter. I hope that a new round of discussion start with this bit of input to muse over.
-
I got a whole rp set out where Machina died bringing Manji back from Edo. She had a sister that will inherit all her skills and I dont use wood, so the wooden copy wheel is no more. It has nothing to do with fighting anyone, I'm bored with the Rinnegan. And know I have a defense against them. And yes I changed my back story. Machina gave Ichi all her/Manji's stuff which I will recover once I find him IC.
-
Couldn't care less of the claiming nonsense, though I do have one slightly related question.
Dafuq is hachimon susanoo supposed to be?
-
Susanoo'o in the gates. This will never be mastered by the way. Masae can only go to like one or two. Erin, are you fine with my changes?
-
Mind elaborating? That tells me basically nothing.
-
Entering Susano'o from the gates. Combining the size of Susie, with the gates.
-
Suppose it'd be possible to boost its power some with that, bs something about using the greater chakra flow, but I doubt I have to say it wouldn't affect the speed. Not only would that be broken as hell but it wouldn't really work either, considering the apparitions movements are dependent on the user's control/skill, not chakra.
-
uhm....seriously?
The gates releasing different power of the body...would upset the ratio of physical to spirital energy blending to make forming justu a big impossibility.
I make a cake for instance...
2 part flour
1 part liquid
.75 parts leavening agent.
so now you want to change the ratio...but only of one part...
you are not gonna get cake out of that but maybe pie crust...
6 parts dry
1 part liquid
.75 part leavening agent.
-
You contradict yourself fairly big there, because if gates messed up the ratios then they would be useless since you could no longer form any chakra whatsoever. Looking at massively chakra empowered feats such as lotus and night guy in particular, can't see how could that possibly be the case.
Literally all the gates do is limit the body's chakra flow, without them you'd have a case such as the 8th gate's opening; your chakra becomes so strong you burn alive from the inside. TL;DR = they're limiters, there's no magic about it.
-
its not a contradiction but a misconception. :P
explain it to me more better good.
I don't see how it is possible.
Coming from the standpoint that Lee and Guy don't use chakra jutsu... is this not the case anymore?
-
Its like a water valve, even if you crank it till the valve breaks off, its still going to be water coming through it.
Simple really. No gates open, you've your "normal", restricted flow available. You can do big jutsus but they're taxing as expected because you're far from your max potential. Kind of like forcing a giant piano through a tiny doorway.
Then if you open gates, the more you open the stronger your flow becomes. Open the floodgates, break off the valve, remove the funnel, whatever comparison you wish to make, same concept still. Your body nor spirit don't change so it is still the exact same chakra as you mixed before, you just have access to more of it from your total pool at once, instead of a slower dribble. Potentially significantly more so, considering with 6 gates Gai was pushing a giant water body back with sheer chakra alone, and with all 8 he made a colossal dragon that obliterated half of a 10 tails hosts body in one kick.
So you open gates, what then? You can be Lee or Gai, keep it inside the body and use it to boost your physique to ridiculous levels for epic taijutsu. Bijuu chakra can achieve a similar effect too if its not used for jutsus, as seen from Naruto even before he ever achieved even a 1 tailed cloak. He went from a shrimp to overpowering Neji.
Alternatively you can utilize that greater flow for jutsus. As expected with more gas to the flames, you can run out much faster, perhaps even burn yourself (or network in this case) while at it, but its no longer meager flames but a bigass bonfire instead.
As for how this would come into play with susanoo, like I said it won't do squat about your apparitions speed, that will still be dependent on your skill/control and that alone. It should in theory however make it a fair to significant degree easier (depending on gates open) to form the apparition however, because you're no longer tearing your body to pieces trying to rip out all that power, you can just flood it out instead.
-
I thought that the gates never really used chakra. Morning peacock was just punching so fast that the air friction caused the punches to catch fire. The tiger attack was just another extremely fast punch that went so fast that it launched a wave of air pressure that exploded on contact. No chakra at all with those techniques. The only chakra involved was the chakra used to unlock the gates. And that 'chakra veil' that surrounds the gates user was just sweat evaporating due to his body temperature I think.
-
This is a neat discussion about the gates and I look forward to reading it and learning more from you all.
however, I would like to make an opinion statement concerning the original topic of character change...
I did nto read past a few pages because it was getting...drama filled and giving me angst.
so generally speaking...when it comes to character redo...
she cannot go back and undo...OTHER PEOPLE's rp who reacted to her during the original biography. she only has the power to change her future, not OUR past.
-
In the attacks that were sent flying, with exception of night guy, yes. Being able to do that without the increased flow from opened gates boosting your body to that degree however? Not a chance.
There's an example of it even before gates are ever actually mentioned, when Lee swoops in to block the two hits during the way to the Chuunin exam's first part. They commented something along the lines of 'whats with that chakra in his arms?'.
Tsunade's mega strength is a vaguely similar principle. You control the utmost max of a huge load of chakra you can, then release it all at once for a massive punch/kick.
Been plenty proof in both anime and manga since the beginning that chakra can be and is used to boost your physique too, not just shaped into jutsus.
As for the voiding, will agree on that, one can't just decide on such alone. Think of something that works for both parties, otherwise its simply character controlling the others.
-
But Gates is different from using chakra to boost your strenght. For example, Gai is physically strong already while Tsunade requires chakra to become that physically strong. Someone using Gates would extremely different from someone just boosting strength via chakra.
And regarding the topic, yeah, I only read the first page and it already seemed like it was just a whine-fest so I didn't wade through the next pages. Why can't she just basically RP where she changes her character's abilities? Whether through a body swap like Oro or some sort of genetic manipulation with the help of a third party?
-
Well if you count being even stronger as extreme, then yes it'd be different. If not, then well I did say similar principle, not identical. Tsunade gets her strength as explosive bursts, gate users more just beef up their physique overall when going into hachimon. Some differences, but similar principle still, former is less potent and safer, latter is more potent and far more dangerous.
As for body swapping, yes, if you found some with the set you want you could get the abilities for yourself to use provided you learned their use after the takeover. Oro style erodes the body however, so lest there was some magic way to prevent that it'd be only a temporary reprieve. As for gene therapy, while new material can be introduced to some degree, completely removing some like say uchiha in this case would be difficult if not impossible, and that's without even beginning on what diseases and other other kind of complications it could cause for the body.
-
Well if you count being even stronger as extreme, then yes it'd be different. If not, then well I did say similar principle, not identical. Tsunade gets her strength as explosive bursts, gate users more just beef up their physique overall when going into hachimon. Some differences, but similar principle still, former is less potent and safer, latter is more potent and far more dangerous.
As for body swapping, yes, if you found some with the set you want you could get the abilities for yourself to use provided you learned their use after the takeover. Oro style erodes the body however, so lest there was some magic way to prevent that it'd be only a temporary reprieve. As for gene therapy, while new material can be introduced to some degree, completely removing some like say uchiha in this case would be difficult if not impossible, and that's without even beginning on what diseases and other other kind of complications it could cause for the body.
But if you do it using anime logic/magic, then it could be possible to swap the abilities. Trying to apply real-world things like nosocomial infections to a fictional world based around an anime doesn't make too much sense. Or if she could find someone to Frankenstein-up a body for her, that might work. She would just have to collect the pieces.
-
Well if you count being even stronger as extreme, then yes it'd be different. If not, then well I did say similar principle, not identical. Tsunade gets her strength as explosive bursts, gate users more just beef up their physique overall when going into hachimon. Some differences, but similar principle still, former is less potent and safer, latter is more potent and far more dangerous.
As for body swapping, yes, if you found some with the set you want you could get the abilities for yourself to use provided you learned their use after the takeover. Oro style erodes the body however, so lest there was some magic way to prevent that it'd be only a temporary reprieve. As for gene therapy, while new material can be introduced to some degree, completely removing some like say uchiha in this case would be difficult if not impossible, and that's without even beginning on what diseases and other other kind of complications it could cause for the body.
But if you do it using anime logic/magic, then it could be possible to swap the abilities. Trying to apply real-world things like nosocomial infections to a fictional world based around an anime doesn't make too much sense. Or if she could find someone to Frankenstein-up a body for her, that might work. She would just have to collect the pieces.
Pretty sure that Oro's body swapping technique is already claimed?
-
Well if you count being even stronger as extreme, then yes it'd be different. If not, then well I did say similar principle, not identical. Tsunade gets her strength as explosive bursts, gate users more just beef up their physique overall when going into hachimon. Some differences, but similar principle still, former is less potent and safer, latter is more potent and far more dangerous.
As for body swapping, yes, if you found some with the set you want you could get the abilities for yourself to use provided you learned their use after the takeover. Oro style erodes the body however, so lest there was some magic way to prevent that it'd be only a temporary reprieve. As for gene therapy, while new material can be introduced to some degree, completely removing some like say uchiha in this case would be difficult if not impossible, and that's without even beginning on what diseases and other other kind of complications it could cause for the body.
But if you do it using anime logic/magic, then it could be possible to swap the abilities. Trying to apply real-world things like nosocomial infections to a fictional world based around an anime doesn't make too much sense. Or if she could find someone to Frankenstein-up a body for her, that might work. She would just have to collect the pieces.
Pretty sure that Oro's body swapping technique is already claimed?
Bocchiere
Tatsuya
Hazama
Taumaster
Kamui Uchiha
I'm not on there cause I'm lazy, but that's the current list.
If anyone is to 'claim' it, probably Bocc. Not sure.
-
I offered to let her use it and was flatly ignored.
-
I killed Machina an re did her, what so hard to understand about this?
-
Nothing got voided and no one shape shifted. You are just bein an ass about it. I killed Machina and made her sister so I could use different KG Ichi did and No one said jack, I do it and its the end og the world. You cant tell me how to make MT character.
-
Silly thread is silly. Why bother telling anyone/asking for permission? Just do it.
-
Cameo's are great.
-
Because people complain. I wanted to do things the polite way and get opinions. And still failed. (Sad face)
-
People will complain regardless.
-
I know. I wont let it get to me. I see where I get crazy and make crap worse though it's not the rest of the players fault complely.
-
:evil:
As said in a previous topic...
I apologize to those who are viewing this thread, along with the treasure trove of others.
Standards have decreased somewhat, unfortunately- a lot of people to blame for that, yes, even those of you who choose to stay silent and then complain about the forum (!).
Find a solution. =)
For future posts, if your posts add nothing to this conversation in terms of helping to find a solution, ask yourself the point then.
-
I'm just here to say I love all of you. And Masane's signature is almost as cool as mine..just almost. Totally one of my favourite scenes ever. I also would like to add that I too Masane once taught of doing something similar, not because I was too strong but because my skill-set became so common amongst shinobi legends ninja. Space-time ninjutsu..
Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Oh look...another ninja using occular.. Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Wait?...oh yes..another Uchiha using.. Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu Space-time ninjutsu
-
Rinn, it seems like space-time keeps on slippin'.