Shinobi Legends Forum
Game Development => Feature Requests => Topic started by: UettoSenju on August 21, 2014, 03:34:54 AM
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So recently I joined LoB and have been playing there. I am not sure if I can bring up the site or not here but sense it is like a sister site to SL or something like that I thought it was okay. If not I apologize in advance.
So the reason for making this. While I was there I noted other they have some of the boards set up in the towns. They have these buttons that say IC and OOC or Roleplay / OOC something like that. The idea is that is you click on the one that says IC or RP then it gives you a chat board where rp is conducted. Then if you hit the other button that says OOC it changes to another chat board where all the OOC talk is.
In recent times at SL it has become clear that the mixture of RP and OOC on the village boards has become a problem. Thus I thought I would bring up that idea here. It seems to be a great way for people to talk OOC in the location as they rp and not have the rp clustered or puched back by OOC.
I just thought this was a great idea and wanted to bring it forth to be examined. I feel it could salve a lot of issues we have at SL on these boards.
The mods could also enforce that all OOC be placed on the OOC board.
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I have seen stuff like this used in other venues as well. It seems to function quite well.
They/we/you/he/she/it still has to have manners no matter where their/our/your/his/her/its OOC stuff is being held.
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I honestly really like this idea
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Not a bad idea at all, honestly.
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There is no feasible way this could be a bad idea.
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I have seen stuff like this used in other venues as well. It seems to function quite well.
They/we/you/he/she/it still has to have manners no matter where their/our/your/his/her/its OOC stuff is being held.
No doubt. Respect is not something this gets us out of but rather the clustering of RP with OOC. People want to talk OOCly this allows them to do so without offending those who are rping and making issue of that sort arise. As for as respect for each other and all, that is only something each and every one of us as a whole can achieve.
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Does it take alot of coding to do? I mean, granted, I'm not the one putting it in, but I'm just wondering if it's a tech heavy thing or not to add that in. It would be splitting the board into two separate halves if I understand right.
I like the idea though.
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This is friggin' brilliant. I hope it's reasonable to do.
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Oh god, please do this.
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It's obviously possible but yes, it would require a fair deal of code editing. It would also depend on exactly which boards it was implemented on. The seven villages? Not too bad. All the fight zones? Hefty. Clan halls? Probably not gonna happen.
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It's obviously possible but yes, it would require a fair deal of code editing. It would also depend on exactly which boards it was implemented on. The seven villages? Not too bad. All the fight zones? Hefty. Clan halls? Probably not gonna happen.
I'd say just the villages would be fine.
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Too add it to the zones or clan halls or really anywhere besides the public villages seems unnecessary.
That's really the only place RP and OOC conflict. The zones are for fighting, the clan halls are for whatever the clan wants them to be.
In zone four Kamui asked us to stop spamming and we scattered like flies. While OOC can happen there, it's not usually too much. And what would the OOC in the zones be anyways?
In clans, it's up to the clan leaders themselves to decide what should be posted and what shouldn't be, unless what's being posted breaks the rules. You could totally make a "No OOC" clan and just boot anyone who broke the rules.
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This would be a brilliant idea. I would love for this to be implemented.
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Its possible, Legend of Bleach has it for all the villages I believe.
Whether it'd actually work and stop people from posting OOC at IC board...I heavily doubt it.
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Its possible, Legend of Bleach has it for all the villages I believe.
Whether it'd actually work and stop people from posting OOC at IC board...I heavily doubt it.
If you enforce it it would. We have enough active mods to do such. Clear out if you post OOC in the rp place you get a mute and repeat offenders get a ban.
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Sounds good to me.
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Well Neji owns both, right? So he already has access to the coding.
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Well Neji owns both, right? So he already has access to the coding.
I'm not sure. I think Phantom and Neji are two different people. Although Neji may be the owner and Phantom just run it so to say. Not fully sure.
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Well Neji owns both, right? So he already has access to the coding.
I'm not sure. I think Phantom and Neji are two different people. Although Neji may be the owner and Phantom just run it so to say. Not fully sure.
Collab time! :D
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Wow, for once it's unanimous.
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Neji own both sites therefore has access to the code that LoB is using for the OOC chat switch. We should ask him to use it on SL.
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Neji own both sites therefore has access to the code that LoB is using for the OOC chat switch. We should ask him to use it on SL.
That's kinda what this thread is doing/for. Lol.
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Notice us Neji-sempai!
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I can, at the very least, confirm that Neji is aware of the existence of this thread.
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He does notice it, just keep in mind too he has a life and is very busy. :)
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He does notice it, just keep in mind too he has a life and is very busy. :)
I wouldn't expect Sir Neji to implant such a thing in a short time. Nor would I think that anyone else should think of him to do such things either. I simply wanted to bring it forth to his attention that it may be a good update to the site to keep in mind for when he does go to add new things perhaps.
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This may sound good on paper ,but was Neji working on a mobile template. Wouldn't that require extra coding to make it work for that too.
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It depends on how you think of that. The IC/OOC option for public boards will be a change to the actual coding of the game running from the server. Templates just change how you view that code. It's like thinking of the game as a picture you're looking at, which continues to be modified by the artist drawing it (Nejiver), and the templates for the game are a pair of glasses you're looking through. Neji/Oliver can change the picture and it will stay however he painted it no matter which glasses you're wearing. In the case of the mobile template, it's like a pair of glass that is still being constructed. Code still has to be written for the mobile template, so yes, more coding has to be done, but none explicitly as the result of implementing an IC/OOC feature.
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As Kirk asked, what about this feature?
Just making it active again so it gets noticed.
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I'll bring this to his attention if he has not seen it.
This feature was implemented on LoB because we thought it best to separate the conversations to avoid confusion, arguments, etc..
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I saw this on another site once. My only concern is there the ability to page back to older posts in the OOC chat was disabled. Does it function like that on LoB too?
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I'll bring this to his attention is he has not seen it.
This feature was implemented on LoB because we thought it best to separate the conversations to avoid confusion, arguments, etc..
Yeah. So since everyone on SL gets along and never argues with each other why would we need that?
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I saw this on another site once. My only concern is there the ability to page back to older posts in the OOC chat was disabled. Does it function like that on LoB too?
Back paging works as it should. =)
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Nice. I like to catch up on things when i've the time to.
baits Eric from another board...
it's still a hamburger with cheese!
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I'll bring this to his attention if he has not seen it.
This feature was implemented on LoB because we thought it best to separate the conversations to avoid confusion, arguments, etc..
Well, I can imagine how it managed to avoid confusion, but I am a little confused on how it hindered arguments.
Nice. I like to catch up on things when i've the time to.
baits Eric from another board...
it's still a hamburger with cheese!
*takes bait out of the incessant need to correct her on this matter*
When you have the time to, make sure you check up on cheeseburgers. Plain ole' hamburgers do not have cheese on them.
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I will talk to Phantom about it.
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Yes Eric you are correct. Plain old hamburgers do not have cheese on them.
However, my hamburger is not plain. It has cheese on it.
If you will note, that burger is not made of cheese. it is made of beef. So I can have a hamburger with or without cheese, but a cheese burger somehow implies that the cheese is inseparable from the item in question. And at McDonlads, that item would be the rapper.[rim shot] in MY kitchen...I put the cheese onto the burger and it is not inseparable. It is a burger in the skillet and on the plate and on the bun, an din a house, and with a mouse, and in a box, and with a fox. It's a burger here or there. It's a burger anywhere. and just because at the last minute before i shut the bun I put a slice of cheese on it, it does not magically turn into something else.
It is still in the larger group called Burger. Which is much more inclusive than cheeseburger.
Yes a woman is a special type of human. but human still. And if I call her a human instead of a woman, I am correct. So a human with female gender is just as accurate as calling her a woman.
ergo: hamburger with cheese is also descriptively accurate.
:P
And Neji...I think that's great.
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And Neji...I think that's great.
I agree.
Yes Eric you are correct. Plain old hamburgers do not have cheese on them.
However, my hamburger is not plain. It has cheese on it.
If you will note, that burger is not made of cheese. it is made of beef. So I can have a hamburger with or without cheese, but a cheese burger somehow implies that the cheese is inseparable from the item in question. And at McDonlads, that item would be the rapper.[rim shot] in MY kitchen...I put the cheese onto the burger and it is not inseparable. It is a burger in the skillet and on the plate and on the bun, an din a house, and with a mouse, and in a box, and with a fox. It's a burger here or there. It's a burger anywhere. and just because at the last minute before i shut the bun I put a slice of cheese on it, it does not magically turn into something else.
It is still in the larger group called Burger. Which is much more inclusive than cheeseburger.
Yes a woman is a special type of human. but human still. And if I call her a human instead of a woman, I am correct. So a human with female gender is just as accurate as calling her a woman.
ergo: hamburger with cheese is also descriptively accurate.
I disagree. To help get my disagremeent across, I shall parody my favorite youtube style of criticism:
+1 sin for suggesting that the pronoun game that makes people ask what and who the heck you are talking about is A-okay.
+1 another sin for suggesting that hamburgers can be either plain or unplain and not have their designations change. Calling a cheeseburger a hamburger is an insult to the ever evolving English language, which makes up these new words for a reason. It isn't for our health.
+1 another sin for being sexist. Wait, calling a woman a woman and not a human is sexist in the regard that the noun "woman" strictly applies to human women while human is more gender neutral for the species, and thus, I'm the sexist one?
Well, +1 anyways for a human taking women down a notch.
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What's the pronoun game?
saying a cheeseburger is not a hamburger is like saying a sycamore is not a tree.
And...it is not sexist to say a woman is human...I think you need a nap. You don't make sense when you are lacking sleep...are you cramming for finals yet?
1] never said you were sexist
2] never said a woman was not human
3] how does being human take a woman down a notch?
As far as sexism and liberation issue go though, I believe it is the right of each person to determine how they will be designated and never ever the purview of another to make these determinations for them. So...if as a woman I am fine with the label 'human' instead of being threatened by so called degenderization, it is indeed quite liberating to be above such rigid and politically correct agendas which are designed to tell a public who are too uninformed to make these qualifications for themselves, what they should be thinking and feeling all for the sole purpose of adding just one more person to the social sheep herd. Baaaaaaa!
I am woman, hear me roar. Yes indeed, do you even know who Helen Reddy is?
But above all, I am human. Never let it be said that I allowed ANYONE to take my humanity away...especially because it offended some movement's idea of what my identity should be.
:P
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What's the pronoun game?
saying a cheeseburger is not a hamburger is like saying a sycamore is not a tree.
And...it is not sexist to say a woman is human...I think you need a nap. You don't make sense when you are lacking sleep...are you cramming for finals yet?
1] never said you were sexist
2] never said a woman was not human
3] how does being human take a woman down a notch?
As far as sexism and liberation issue go though, I believe it is the right of each person to determine how they will be designated and never ever the purview of another to make these determinations for them. So...if as a woman I am fine with the label 'human' instead of being threatened by so called degenderization, it is indeed quite liberating to be above such rigid and politically correct agendas which are designed to tell a public who are too uninformed to make these qualifications for themselves, what they should be thinking and feeling all for the sole purpose of adding just one more person to the social sheep herd. Baaaaaaa!
I am woman, hear me roar. Yes indeed, do you even know who Helen Reddy is?
But above all, I am human. Never let it be said that I allowed ANYONE to take my humanity away...especially because it offended some movement's idea of what my identity should be.
:P
Cram is one way to put it, but more pertinetly, I wish not to keep up a tanget that has nothing to do with the thread too much. It's bad form ya know.
And the pronoun game is when a character does not specify exactly who they mean, wasting often precious time by making the other characters ask who they mean instead of just telling the other characters from the get-go. Like in the series when they use "him" instead of just saying Madara, if you need a comparison.
The cinema sins parody was not intended to actually use anything that you actually said. The joke... Ah nevermind, the creep has found the bottom of my sheets again. I'll have to say yay women and argue later that a prostitute would probably prefer to be called a prostitute over a whore, since he/she would likely know that whore has a far more negative (and less profitable) connotation. Political correctness is not the only reason I would rather someone just call a woman a woman and a cheeesburger a cheeseburger. There is less confusion, nevermind liberation style "free to call it whatevs". If everyone spoke at least a similar way, there would be far less confusion and misunderstanding in the world.
The Naruto Series is united in while by this one facker who says the same thing over and over again in pretty much the same way. It would have been far more difficult for all the talk no jutsu, especially in part II, had each of the great nations had their own unique language, or dialect even.
I apologize, we may continue this in spam, or put it in the OOC section of the forum. Do we have an OOC section and an IC section on the forum? Or is it all kind of OOC? The site using such differences seems somewhat like an excuse for tabbing village boards, or for posting inflammatory material in the OOC and not clogging up the IC with it, which is still kind of wrong in the grand scheme of things.
Post concluded.
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The Village Square will hopefully be "redone" a bit, Eric. =)
There, members will be able to OOC/IC chat, we'll see.
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Thank you Oliver. =)
And thank you LoB.
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It's a really neat function. Only issue I see is when you're scrying, you don't have the option to what board you want to scry to. Don't know if that's gonna change at all, but just something to consider.
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This is really cool.
I hope people start hanging with each other more out in public. That used to be so much fun.