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Game Development => Feature Requests => Topic started by: Uchiha Madara on May 12, 2015, 07:18:49 PM

Title: Clan Link Option
Post by: Uchiha Madara on May 12, 2015, 07:18:49 PM
With all the RP that goes on between clans, I'm hoping its possible to have an option to link to up to others, that isn't restricted to clan leaders, but require them to initiate . Sort of like the options in Ze Gypsy Tent but includes everyone. I think such a feature would benefit almost everybody:

1.  It would make joint clan events easier as well as communication.
2. No need to temporarily leave your clan in order to RP with another.
3.  RP in the clan halls can go uninterrupted while at the same time leaving the zones free for mostly fight related purposes.
4. No need travel all the way to Otogakure for clan leaders to talk things over or make dealings.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Ace on May 12, 2015, 07:22:00 PM
For example

1) Clan A wants to have access to the halls of Clan B (possibly others as well)
Clan B must accept in order for that to occur

2) Clan A wants to have some sort of a link to Clan B. That may be done so via joint clan hall room specifically for Clan A and Clan B

Am I laying this out reasonably?
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Uchiha Madara on May 12, 2015, 07:23:45 PM
Exactly! :D
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 12, 2015, 07:25:24 PM
Methinks this was suggested already to some degree.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Uchiha Madara on May 12, 2015, 07:30:05 PM
It was? I'm assuming since it wasn't implemented, the consensus was a no?
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 12, 2015, 07:34:42 PM
I'm not all too sure if it was shot down or just ignored.

Pretty sure it was the aforementioned. Except it wasn't exactly this idea. I....need to try and look it up.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 12, 2015, 07:36:06 PM
Found it:

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7749.msg209886.html#msg209886
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Ace on May 12, 2015, 07:38:04 PM
Found it:

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7749.msg209886.html#msg209886

Ah, thanks Shadow!

I'm not all too sure if it was shot down or just ignored.

Pretty sure it was the aforementioned. Except it wasn't exactly this idea. I....need to try and look it up.

I agree, the ideas do differ.

Time appropriated though, I support this idea. =)
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Uchiha Madara on May 12, 2015, 09:04:32 PM
Found it:

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7749.msg209886.html#msg209886

My thanks as well! Hopefully this is a different enough approach to garner attention and approval.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Teostra on May 12, 2015, 09:31:38 PM
I believe that this should be an option in the clan hall portion of the game.
For example, let's say ACad Doe is in Konoha's clan. He is tasked out to go do a mission and 'spy on' Amegakure (which is only a clan, and not a village).
In order for this to happen, ACad Doe would select an option that would be something like 'Visit another clan' or 'Talk to other clan' and then pick Amegakure.
This would send a request to the clan leader that Doe wants to visit and, just like adding a new clan member, he'd be allowed to hand out a visiting pass. Of course, if the leader of Ame finds out Doe's true intention, he could revoke the pass (should be done RP-wise, to make it more fun though :P)
Kind of like giving out keys to dwellings, but people would have to request the keys instead of you just manually giving them away.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Eric on May 12, 2015, 10:18:47 PM
I kind of like this idea. I believe in-game moderators can already travel between clans independently of the clan that he/she is already in; if that were the case, then a much more limited form of that mechanic would be a way to implement this on a more global scale.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on May 13, 2015, 04:33:28 AM
it would be great for rp. I like the clan head having the option to grant permission. I like it being Rp directed. When the initial idea was turned down people just started making alts for themselves....Shadow' Alt...for instance...to go take care of missions and the like. We find a way to get what we want.

This would make it much nicer. I like the idea of the option, once permissions have been granted, to show up as a link in the clan halls keyed to whatever clan you are visiting.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Hono Uzumaki on May 13, 2015, 08:04:17 PM
Oh my God, this would make diplomacy so much easier. I hate playing the clan swap game.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on July 23, 2015, 05:59:12 AM
Poking this topic to see what the status on this suggestion might be.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Becquerel on July 29, 2015, 05:57:00 AM
Also posting in this thread to see what might occur. Looks like there was something similar suggested in 2013.
http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,6760.msg0/boardseen.html#new
But there doesn't seem to be much of a conclusion that was reached.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Uchiha Madara on July 29, 2015, 06:01:17 AM
Thanks Becquerel. Hopefully if enough folks gather to either topic, the idea will get some attention from one who can implement it.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Kage on July 29, 2015, 08:48:43 PM
Why not just create the option of making one's clan hall commentaries public?

Maybe even include some sort of blacklist/ignore list, since there's always the possibility of troublemakers.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on July 29, 2015, 09:06:40 PM
that is much too broad for my liking Kage. So many clan things are private. You tear down security with that.

however, to be able to enter a clan hall upon invite without having to quit your own clan, seems like something that makes RP sense.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Old Man Xia on August 17, 2015, 04:58:55 AM
that is much too broad for my liking Kage. So many clan things are private. You tear down security with that.

however, to be able to enter a clan hall upon invite without having to quit your own clan, seems like something that makes RP sense.

This pretty much, but that is why in clans you have people who can go to the secret room to conduct business as well. Some clans may not do that necessarily, but it is an option. Some villages don't need to use the clan halls though, like Kiri, Konoha, Suna, Oto, ect.... They already have villages set up for that reason, but in what i'm suggesting is that you allow the clan requesting in and opt to disconnect them from the clan. That way if they want to RP in the halls, they must ask again.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Deathstroke on August 17, 2015, 09:25:07 PM
I don't know what the people who work on this game have on the docket, but this certainly sounds like a useful idea to implement. It would be good for rp. Perhaps have the option to select what you want the visitor to be able to see, just the regular page or the secret rooms and such as well.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on August 18, 2015, 12:51:09 AM
that can be accomplished through the clan rank system. just make the visitor rank low. they do not need to have access to clan functions. and when their rp is done. just have them turn in their key or take it back. like with dwellings. so as to avoid them having to join by leaving their own.

Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Becquerel on September 17, 2015, 11:17:47 PM
I just want to bring attention back to this topic to see if it's been considered or even possible to do considering LotGD's format.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on September 18, 2015, 08:23:54 PM
I was thinking if clan travel was an option that could be chosen, perhaps a link for clans that wish to be open could be placed in the clan waiting area?
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Becquerel on October 26, 2015, 01:33:24 AM
Is there any update on this or is it a potential thing? Or is it something that can never happen?
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: MaliciousWolf on December 23, 2015, 11:38:59 AM
This would be so awesome and useful! Just like scrying, but instead of villages actual clans themselves. Definitely could see this being quite useful in infiltration missions, diplomacy, joint clan RP events, and so forth. Hope it gets implemented in some shape or form in the future!
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on December 28, 2015, 04:04:42 AM
it could seriously break this site wide open for RP opportunities and locations to make things happen.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on December 28, 2015, 05:43:42 AM
it could seriously break this site wide open for RP opportunities and locations to make things happen.
Yes
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Becquerel on June 25, 2017, 11:21:31 AM
I'd like to bump up this thread even though it's old to refresh this idea :) I still think it'd be a great idea in regards to RP, since it would allow for people to visit other clans without having to leave their own.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Vail on June 26, 2017, 12:47:25 AM
I'm also in favor of this, still.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Neji on July 01, 2017, 01:51:02 PM
The idea is a bit tricky.

What happens when people time out in an "open" clan, they close, they log in =/
Usually in areas that are not in an event but are reachable to you, it matters little.

I'd rather go with a scrying idea than a real visit. Which is, I realize, not very roleplay-ish.

On what can you agree on that makes sense?
Participating in the chat like scrying? Actually being in the clan hall (seeing most options + clan description)?

It will be a lot of work, because it'd need an invitation system added which also can revoke access prematurely. That's a lot of test cases.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Becquerel on July 02, 2017, 07:51:41 AM
I think the best (and hopefully easiest to implement) would be the function to basically scry in another clan hall so you can just post in it upon invitation. The invitation system would definitely need to be done so abuse can't take place and so people can't go into clan halls that they weren't invited to. Would it be possible to use the current clan invitation system as a kind of base as far as coding goes?
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Jestar on July 03, 2017, 04:58:26 AM
Isn't there a secret convoy room in the gypsy tent for clan leaders? Why not just make that accessible to all and that be used as a public rping spot for clans? It's not like it's really being used now.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Neji on July 07, 2017, 12:50:11 PM
No, the invitation system is completely different.
You apply and get accepted, it's also in a different part of the code where I cannot expand the functionality that easily.

Easiest to do would not be an invitation system, but an inquiry system.
Like, you search for a clan, "apply" to view, and get accepted.

But even that, lots of work.
I can't size the potential gain against this though.
Title: Re: Clan Link Option
Post by: Becquerel on July 12, 2017, 01:20:09 PM
Hmm. Seems like it would be difficult if they're different systems then :( Hopefully there would be some way for this to actually be done so members can actually 'scry' other clans to allow for cross-clan collaborations.