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Title: Alignment
Post by: benny on November 22, 2008, 07:58:01 PM
As many of you know, you can change your alignment from Evil to Normal,
Why isn't their a way to change Good to Normal?
Bit one sided
Should their be something added to make it even? :twisted:
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Mihamaru on November 22, 2008, 08:20:44 PM
There is.
It takes a while to change alingments.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on November 22, 2008, 08:50:38 PM
There is.
It takes a while to change alingments.

Yes but their is a special event to return from evil to normal, why not one for the good willing to be normal?
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Neji on November 22, 2008, 09:36:52 PM
ah - I should just make levers.... "switch to good" *BING* you're good.

*sigh*
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on November 23, 2008, 12:55:14 AM
So funny i forgot to laugh Neji >> :twisted:
No reason why it can't be fair to either side  (Good and Evil)
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Mihamaru on November 23, 2008, 05:11:21 AM
No reason why it can't be fair to either side  (Good and Evil)
Yes there is.
Neji doesn't like to keep things balanced on both sides <_<
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on November 23, 2008, 09:56:27 AM
No reason why it can't be fair to either side  (Good and Evil)
Yes there is.
Neji doesn't like to keep things balanced on both sides <_<

Obviously but he should make it balanced.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on November 23, 2008, 11:31:31 AM
No reason why it can't be fair to either side  (Good and Evil)
Yes there is.
Neji doesn't like to keep things balanced on both sides <_<

Obviously but he should make it balanced.
But it is in the greater picture. Neji sees all, and we see but a small part... some see virtually nothing...
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Neji on November 23, 2008, 11:51:20 AM
Balancing does NOT mean: "hey, why can't I get all on a silver plate, ready to eat what I like?"

Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on November 23, 2008, 05:58:36 PM
Balancing does NOT mean: "hey, why can't I get all on a silver plate, ready to eat what I like?"



Yes you are right but balancing is making it even for both sides.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: cmage on November 23, 2008, 08:28:32 PM
Balancing does NOT mean: "hey, why can't I get all on a silver plate, ready to eat what I like?"



Yes you are right but balancing is making it even for both sides.
There's no way to make it even on both sides without allowing both sides to receive the same benefits. That would just create super powerful characters, which would just make Neji change the alignment system anyway. :/
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on November 23, 2008, 10:12:42 PM
Balancing does NOT mean: "hey, why can't I get all on a silver plate, ready to eat what I like?"



Yes you are right but balancing is making it even for both sides.
There's no way to make it even on both sides without allowing both sides to receive the same benefits. That would just create super powerful characters, which would just make Neji change the alignment system anyway. :/

Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Jin on November 23, 2008, 10:18:26 PM
Balancing does NOT mean: "hey, why can't I get all on a silver plate, ready to eat what I like?"



Yes you are right but balancing is making it even for both sides.
There's no way to make it even on both sides without allowing both sides to receive the same benefits. That would just create super powerful characters, which would just make Neji change the alignment system anyway. :/

Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
Good alignment has it's own benefits, changing of alignment should be something difficult and not something easy, it took me a lot of time, to be chaotic good, I was Lawful Evil.
You just need to find the best way for you to do it faster.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: cmage on November 24, 2008, 12:44:59 AM
Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
Not everyone who is evil has curse seal :/
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: doomstar on November 24, 2008, 12:49:42 AM
Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
Not everyone who is evil has curse seal :/
and from what I hear, SSTE is better than CS2 (which wouldn't be that hard to do since cs2 sucks... well except for certain situations but for a general use thing, no way)
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on November 24, 2008, 12:54:46 AM
And it is balanced though... Neji is evil himself lol
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: hiro on November 24, 2008, 03:12:26 AM
Balancing does NOT mean: "hey, why can't I get all on a silver plate, ready to eat what I like?"



Yes you are right but balancing is making it even for both sides.
There's no way to make it even on both sides without allowing both sides to receive the same benefits. That would just create super powerful characters, which would just make Neji change the alignment system anyway. :/

Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
I don't think so >_>;;
I have the Curse Seal and still get attacked by his wife.
And after more than 200 oro kills, I still haven't gotten the CS2 event once.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: doomstar on November 24, 2008, 04:23:38 AM
Balancing does NOT mean: "hey, why can't I get all on a silver plate, ready to eat what I like?"



Yes you are right but balancing is making it even for both sides.
There's no way to make it even on both sides without allowing both sides to receive the same benefits. That would just create super powerful characters, which would just make Neji change the alignment system anyway. :/

Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
I don't think so >_>;;
I have the Curse Seal and still get attacked by his wife.
And after more than 200 oro kills, I still haven't gotten the CS2 event once.
ha, just like gaara, except gaara actually got the event...

just failed... >>
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on November 24, 2008, 08:38:22 AM
yeh, though good alignment has its benefits ~_^

has to do with the forest :3
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on November 24, 2008, 08:10:06 PM
Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
Not everyone who is evil has curse seal :/
and from what I hear, SSTE is better than CS2 (which wouldn't be that hard to do since cs2 sucks... well except for certain situations but for a general use thing, no way)

I have SSTE but my question is WHY isn't their a way of becoming Normal like their is when you are Evil?
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on November 24, 2008, 10:11:16 PM
Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
Not everyone who is evil has curse seal :/
and from what I hear, SSTE is better than CS2 (which wouldn't be that hard to do since cs2 sucks... well except for certain situations but for a general use thing, no way)

I have SSTE but my question is WHY isn't their a way of becoming Normal like their is when you are Evil?
There is! I just takes forever!
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on November 25, 2008, 01:15:12 AM
Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
Not everyone who is evil has curse seal :/
and from what I hear, SSTE is better than CS2 (which wouldn't be that hard to do since cs2 sucks... well except for certain situations but for a general use thing, no way)

I have SSTE but my question is WHY isn't their a way of becoming Normal like their is when you are Evil?
There is! I just takes forever!

you can always change your alignment, just takes a very long time, just like ice said, the thing is you just have to know what alters it.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on November 25, 2008, 01:16:39 AM
Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
Not everyone who is evil has curse seal :/
and from what I hear, SSTE is better than CS2 (which wouldn't be that hard to do since cs2 sucks... well except for certain situations but for a general use thing, no way)

I have SSTE but my question is WHY isn't their a way of becoming Normal like their is when you are Evil?
There is! I just takes forever!

you can always change your alignment, just takes a very long time, just like ice said, the thing is you just have to know what alters it.
Yeah, I have been trying to change from Good to Evil since just before my second reset, I am now into my third reset and still good ^^
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on November 25, 2008, 01:19:14 AM
Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
Not everyone who is evil has curse seal :/
and from what I hear, SSTE is better than CS2 (which wouldn't be that hard to do since cs2 sucks... well except for certain situations but for a general use thing, no way)

I have SSTE but my question is WHY isn't their a way of becoming Normal like their is when you are Evil?
There is! I just takes forever!

you can always change your alignment, just takes a very long time, just like ice said, the thing is you just have to know what alters it.
Yeah, I have been trying to change from Good to Evil since just before my second reset, I am now into my third reset and still good ^^

there are many ways to become evil, just keep your eyes peeled.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on November 25, 2008, 01:19:56 AM
Then Good Should have more benefits then Evil, as it is harder to Get Seven Star Tattoo Enhanced then it is to get Curse Seal 2
Evil Do not have to fight Baluski's wife for free Items
Not everyone who is evil has curse seal :/
and from what I hear, SSTE is better than CS2 (which wouldn't be that hard to do since cs2 sucks... well except for certain situations but for a general use thing, no way)

I have SSTE but my question is WHY isn't their a way of becoming Normal like their is when you are Evil?
There is! I just takes forever!

you can always change your alignment, just takes a very long time, just like ice said, the thing is you just have to know what alters it.
Yeah, I have been trying to change from Good to Evil since just before my second reset, I am now into my third reset and still good ^^

there are many ways to become evil, just keep your eyes peeled.
Yeah I not trying overly hard
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: doomstar on November 25, 2008, 03:34:20 AM
I thought there was a simple way to get rid of your alignment
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Neji on November 25, 2008, 08:44:51 AM
Can you please NOT quote a ton of posts before yours? Just add that one tiny sentence you have to say?

Oo

quotes are if the reference is unclear - not just for fun.

@topic
I have made the "come back from evil" for a good reason - because there are powers that drive you down so deep the evil lane - you cannot possible come back.

No such thing is there that drives you down the GOOD path so fast ;) hence the "way to redeem" in a way.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on November 25, 2008, 08:49:17 AM
Sorry Neji...
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on November 25, 2008, 02:59:09 PM
Can you please NOT quote a ton of posts before yours? Just add that one tiny sentence you have to say?

Oo

quotes are if the reference is unclear - not just for fun.

@topic
I have made the "come back from evil" for a good reason - because there are powers that drive you down so deep the evil lane - you cannot possible come back.

No such thing is there that drives you down the GOOD path so fast ;) hence the "way to redeem" in a way.

When You use SST it makes you more good, and when i don't even use either SST and SSTE i can become more of a good person at the start of the day,
so if i want to become evil the new game day basically prevents it.
How pointless is my effort of becoming Evil  :evil:
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Neji on November 25, 2008, 03:47:31 PM
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When You use SST it makes you more good

Just out of curiosity, when did you look into my code? :)

Can you say that and be 100% sure?

If you do, then I'd like to make a bet with you involving a huge amount of money on that one =)
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on November 25, 2008, 05:08:25 PM
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When You use SST it makes you more good

Just out of curiosity, when did you look into my code? :)

Can you say that and be 100% sure?

If you do, then I'd like to make a bet with you involving a huge amount of money on that one =)

Then why does it mention my Tattoo?
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Neji on November 25, 2008, 05:52:42 PM
It does not.

You are certain it does, but have you *EVER* thought that there are other things that don't swat you in the face what they do =)

^^ I would never put any notice on alignment changes anywhere where it happens - except PvP.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on November 26, 2008, 12:51:39 AM
You are certain it does, but have you *EVER* thought that there are other things that don't swat you in the face what they do =)

He's got a point, don't you think the game would be a lot more easier when it comes to everything telling you what happens out of the outcome...?

It provides no challenge once you learn what to do, all you had to do was repeat the process, i personally think Neji is right on all stand son that the alignment factor as of now is and was balanced.

Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on November 26, 2008, 12:54:03 AM
I agree, and even if it isn't there is no reason why he has to balance it.
Neji can do what he likes, he can't please everyone.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on November 26, 2008, 01:25:46 AM
Neji can do what he likes, he can't please everyone.

that's common sense, with over 1,000 people playing SL it is hard to maintain order in where EVERYONE is content.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on November 26, 2008, 01:31:25 AM
Neji can do what he likes, he can't please everyone.

that's common sense, with over 1,000 people playing SL it is hard to maintain order in where EVERYONE is content.
Exactly, each Alignment has it's pro's and con's. You can't have the best of both, you choose one and therefore get those things.
No one forces you to choose Good, or Evil.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on December 06, 2008, 11:15:31 AM
I don't wish to bring this topic back up or anything....
I stopped using my SST & SSTE
I have been dumping syrup on people
Destroying people in the forest

YET still i climb the GOOD list, WHY?  :evil:
I was ranked 23rd on the good list last week, now im 20th
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on December 06, 2008, 12:00:41 PM
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I don't wish to bring this topic back up or anything....
Then Don't, do you bother checking how long since anyone posted?

We have already discussed this so just leave it and stop reviving dead topics!
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on December 06, 2008, 03:52:49 PM
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I don't wish to bring this topic back up or anything....
Then Don't, do you bother checking how long since anyone posted?

We have already discussed this so just leave it and stop reviving dead topics!

Yes i do >_<
It would help if someone could answer my questions about the game.
I will close it when i have no more Questions about the alignment ok? :evil:
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on December 06, 2008, 04:01:04 PM
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I don't wish to bring this topic back up or anything....
Then Don't, do you bother checking how long since anyone posted?

We have already discussed this so just leave it and stop reviving dead topics!

Yes i do >_<
It would help if someone could answer my questions about the game.
I will close it when i have no more Questions about the alignment ok? :evil:

Hmm, well benny, are you Chaotic good?
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: doomstar on December 06, 2008, 04:05:32 PM
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I don't wish to bring this topic back up or anything....
Then Don't, do you bother checking how long since anyone posted?

We have already discussed this so just leave it and stop reviving dead topics!
it's not dead, there's only been like 10 days :/
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on December 06, 2008, 04:06:56 PM
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I don't wish to bring this topic back up or anything....
Then Don't, do you bother checking how long since anyone posted?

We have already discussed this so just leave it and stop reviving dead topics!
it's not dead, there's only been like 10 days :/

True, and he had all rights to revive it, he has had a valid question, stop being so damn strict and "all-knowing" ice >_>

Anyways, the chaotic-ness may be a factor in this if he IS chaotic to why he is becoming more good.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on December 07, 2008, 04:49:36 AM
Well we have answered and its just the same question pretty much, so I saw no point in bring this back.

By the way, learn to take your own advice Rai.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on December 07, 2008, 12:23:13 PM
Quote
I don't wish to bring this topic back up or anything....
Then Don't, do you bother checking how long since anyone posted?

We have already discussed this so just leave it and stop reviving dead topics!

Yes i do >_<
It would help if someone could answer my questions about the game.
I will close it when i have no more Questions about the alignment ok? :evil:

Yep i am chaotic good,
Just how exactly can you become more "Good" by doing evil deeds
I thought you do Evil deeds to become Evil not more good....?

Ice, If you have nothing decent or of value that helps me in my situation will you please not say anything at all?
Thanks
Hmm, well benny, are you Chaotic good?
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on December 07, 2008, 12:26:56 PM
Ok, sorry Benny.

Yes you are right, doing bad things does make you bad.
You just need to find ways to do bad things, and find what good things you are doing and stop them.
But as we have said, it is not easy to change alignment, I have been working at it for over 160 Oro kills and I'm still good.
Just keep trying and one day you will change.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on December 08, 2008, 09:26:58 AM
Ok, sorry Benny.

Yes you are right, doing bad things does make you bad.
You just need to find ways to do bad things, and find what good things you are doing and stop them.
But as we have said, it is not easy to change alignment, I have been working at it for over 160 Oro kills and I'm still good.
Just keep trying and one day you will change.

Yes, you are right in that, but their isn't anything i can think of that im doing to make me good...
I destroy people in the forest
I do not use SST or SSTE
I Pour syrup onto folk
I Kill Hyuugan to make me Eviler (SL player)

not much i can do to make me eviler
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on December 08, 2008, 09:31:24 AM
Well see if you can narrow down what you are doing to keep making you good.
Try to find as many things to make you evil as you can.
We really can't give much more away, so just explore and try more things.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Neji on December 08, 2008, 11:53:37 AM
Sometimes, it is not the amount of "evil" done .... 5 bad words a day don't eqal 5 blood donations.

Sometimes a few big good things turn down smaller ones.

Also, you MIGHT be influenced towards good all the time - without knowing.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: benny on December 08, 2008, 11:12:21 PM
Well im doing nothing good, Just a arrow into the dark here BUT
If i was from Otokagure, would that make any difference?
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on December 09, 2008, 03:33:50 PM
Well we have answered and its just the same question pretty much, so I saw no point in bring this back.

By the way, learn to take your own advice Rai.

Oh please dude, you know you're damn worse than me.

Here benny:

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,1574.0.html

This is Neji's description of the alignments,

"Chaotic Good, “Rebel”: A chaotic good character acts as his conscience directs him with little regard for what others expect of him. He makes his own way, but he’s kind and benevolent. He believes in goodness and right but has little use for laws and regulations. He hates it when people try to intimidate others and tell them what to do. He follows his own moral compass, which, although good, may not agree with that of society.
Chaotic good is the best alignment you can be because it combines a good heart with a free spirit"

Small desc. of Chaotic Good, here is what you need for evil:

'Neutral Evil, “Malefactor”: A neutral evil villain does whatever she can get away with. She is out for herself, pure and simple. She sheds no tears for those she kills, whether for profit, sport, or convenience. She has no love of order and holds no illusion that following laws, traditions, or codes would make her any better or more noble. On the other hand, she doesn’t have the restless nature or love of conflict that a chaotic evil villain has.
Some neutral evil villains hold up evil as an ideal, committing evil for its own sake. Most often, such villains are devoted to evil deities or secret societies.
Neutral evil is the most dangerous alignment because it represents pure evil without honor and without variation."

Ignore the fact he put "she" for all of it and change it with "he".

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: IceSlayer on June 02, 2009, 01:55:21 PM
Dudem did you even check how old this thread was?
And you have no reason to bring it back, this matter was settled.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Omega Purple on March 01, 2010, 10:48:02 PM
Balancing does NOT mean: "hey, why can't I get all on a silver plate, ready to eat what I like?"

Please check the previous post's date. Don't revive old topics with semi-unnecessary commentary. :)
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: darkshinobi on March 02, 2010, 01:46:21 AM
you practically revived it again, it's been half a month0.0


This topic really should be closed......


<--The previous part of this post was, indeed, unnecessary commentary.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: Omega Purple on March 02, 2010, 02:38:10 AM
LOL. I eat my own words. Indeed, I thought we were still in April. -.-  My bad.  :oops:

Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: yuanyelss on March 21, 2011, 09:56:37 AM
Is there a way to allow both sides did not even get the same benefits. This will only create a super-powerful character, it will only make Neji positioning system in any case change...
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: ShinobiIceSlayer on March 22, 2011, 01:09:36 AM
Dude... again? This thread was over a year old...
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: hiro on March 23, 2011, 01:04:46 AM
It even has Ice fooled. >>

That is possibly the cleverest spambot I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: ShinobiIceSlayer on March 23, 2011, 01:22:33 AM
HOLY COW! Your right! It just seemed so n00b like I didn't even look... I'm very impressed with it.

Can we keep it?
Title: Re: Alignment
Post by: hiro on March 26, 2011, 03:28:03 AM
Yeah. This one actually knows how to draw words out of previous posts and make (almost) coherent statements. >>

The advertisements in the sig give it away, though.

It's like we're watching the evolution of spambots! =D