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Title: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 27, 2016, 03:42:36 AM
Alright let's make sure I'm doing this right.

] Challenging a Host
You cannot challenge any host until after their 14 day grace period is over.

Done.

You must check forum host preference threads to stay informed.

He doesn't have one so done, I guess.

You must post to the host's preference thread to make a valid challenge. Notify the host through a pm on SL that you have issued a formal challenge.

He doesn't have one, so I'm posting this here, and sending a pm as well.

You and the Host have 1 week to set up and begin the match.

Haha, oh boy.

You are bound by the activity rules too. Notify host of inactivity in pm and his preference thread or forum match if applicable. After 14 days in a notified inactivity you will bow out gracefully and may challenge this host for this bijuu again after 3 months.

Agreed

You must post to match every 7 days. After 7 days from a non-notified inactivity, you will bow out gracefully and may challenge this host for this bijuu again after 3 months.

Agreed

After losing a challenge, you may not challenge the same host for the same beast for 3 months. However, you may challenge this same host for a different beast in his possession without waiting.

Agreed

OOC matches are 1v1. Preferences can alter this upon agreement of all parties involved.
You may have more than one OOC match going at the same time.

I'd love to make it IC but feel like Warren probably won't be up for that, guess we'll hash that one out.

Ok all done right, official challenge made? Let's get started.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: JayJay on May 27, 2016, 07:31:48 AM
Seems legit... let's see what happens
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 27, 2016, 11:05:46 AM
Yeah no IC. Win or lose I don't care how much you want to take a dump on me, but I'm not taking the risk of letting you do so to everyone I've an RP with.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 27, 2016, 06:40:09 PM
Yeah no IC. Win or lose I don't care how much you want to take a dump on me, but I'm not taking the risk of letting you do so to everyone I've an RP with.

Well you know I just want to get the Mazo. If you put the Mazo on the line I'll put ALL my bijuu on the line. We could keep it OOC then.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 27, 2016, 07:21:01 PM
No. OOC.

Neutral area would be barren dirt plain or some such I suppose.

Only leaves question of whats usable and what banned.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 27, 2016, 07:55:15 PM
I want it to be IC. You say no. I say that's fine, you know I just want it to be IC so I can get the Mazo too, you put it up and I'll put up SEVEN bijuu and we can make the fight OOC. You say no. That isn't much of a compromise.

Just make the fight IC. I don't care about killing people anymore. If you die just finish the rp your doing and then do one where you come back to life. That's my compromise with people since to remain IC I usually have to kill them, so I just say revive yourself whenever however you like, I'm not going to try and argue to keep you dead.

For an area I'm fine with just an empty barren waste.

I have my wiki page you can look over, let me know if you have anything to discuss. Is this still up to date for you?

Warren's Stuff

or well only thing of mention might be out of the five natures fire might be strongest, he's really resilient to fire and other fiery things, can without repercussion lift his bodyheat so high he could walk through rain or snowfall dry, do fire techniques with little to no seals

That's fine since I basically am the same as well.

rasengan

Of course fine.

simple sound techniques like upping shouts to plain inhumane levels

Sure

mokuton

Sure

eight gates, nothing special, but he has body covering black metal armor that can be summoned in pieces or entirely by ashura path, simulates the initial gates by removing users pain and fear, durable to the point its likely the wearer gets broken before the metal does, if bones get broken it stabs metal in to reinforce and keep the bones together, if a joints smashed like arm bent back by elbow it forcibly bends it back to restore function

Berserk always ok

breaking bones is not easy tho, no shikotsumyaku but his bones have been enhanced with minor amounts of kaguya material

Sure

humanoid but not human, so variety of things are in different places and shapes/sizes, like organs, nerves and the like

I suppose this is fine, what are you exactly? An alien like Hagoromo?

tomoed rinnegan like sasuke had, both eyes stead of just one tho, basically enables using both eyes abilities at once, don't have his teleport thing tho, mangekyo is normal amaterasu/tsukyomi type but he can emit energy that distorts space-time things in his vicinity so stuff like kamui intangibility or space time at all really don't work. susanoo obviously.

What does use both eyes at once mean? Other than that, unless it has other abilities, that sounds fine.

huge bone dragon through animal path, can fly and breathe fire, fire vaguely amaterasu-like in that it burns anything but can be extinguished

Sure

hollow mask, rarely if ever use it tho

Going to have to say no to Bleach powers

a grim reaper-esque demon sealed inside, wards off things like soul remove attempts, grants a weapon and release

Ok so you have passive immunity to soul removal techniques, can you elaborate on what a "weapon and release" is?

weapons a hand scythe, can swap to a bladed whip/daggertail, bigger scythe, and back, can channel some jutsu and gets stronger the more blood its given

That's fine

crimson release or whatever one wants to call it. largely immune myself unless considerably power is used, when I get burned too. 'corrupts' things by adding the demons power, makes them stronger and red or darker, makes fire catch onto even rock, makes water react like oil to red fire in sense it lights on fire if subject to it, overall trying to absorb the techniques is highly corrosive to insides of others, level of power used is correlative to how much curse seal is opened up to point level 2 temporarily manifests the whole demon

My only issue with this is that just having a "My Jutsu Get Stronger Release" sounds suspiciously like Sage Mode and I of course take issue with you have Sage Mode (Or an equivalent ability) as well as Rinnegan. If you can explain to me that it is not like that then it should be fine.

shukaku obviously, so sand and magnet don't really get much higher than that. used in combination with rinnegan's black rods to create black sand, high durability like iron sand but no poison, conducts my chakra and disrupts others' chakra tho, if compressed has been shown to withstand even amaterasu susanoo arrow (actual canon fact)

Neat idea, that's fine.

lesser amount of every other beast, I don't really do their specialties, but it does make chakra shroud like naruto's after getting power from rikudou sennin. flight and truth seeking balls from that obviously, but doubt you want me to use the gudodama

That's a pretty tough pill to swallow honestly. Naruto had the beasts chakra in him before Hagoromo gifted his right? And it didn't supplement his abilities at all. You'd need Six Paths Senjutsu Chakra to gain the Goudama and such and I can't agree to you have Sage Mode and Rinnegan.

the yin and yang palm powers from rikudou sennin, yang doesn't do all that much battle wise lest used together with yin, yin does shape manipulations and the like as one might expect

That's fine.

the star techniques from hoshi, only person on site who knows how to cure the side effects

The wiki says, "utilises chakra-enhancing radiation produced by a meteorite that fell 200 years prior to the start of the series." So do you have  the meteor on you at all times? It seems pretty bull that you're claiming yet another buffing ability but explicitly removing the downside.

custom hiraishin-esque space time move, can be tagged to other things via either a carved seal or a specific but temporary chakra charge"

No.

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Let me know what you think and if there is anything else of course. We also need to come to a consensus on Six Paths Power/Chakra, what it does and how you use it, so we're not both using it but having it behave in totally different ways.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 27, 2016, 08:48:49 PM
Err just what do you want exactly? IC for mazo+shukaku? ._. OOC for Shukaku? Or what. I'm not following.

There's no term for what he is, but closest equivalent would be homunculus I suppose. Artificial humanoid creature thing.

Sasuke had one tomoed rinnegan and one sharingan, Warren has two tomoed rinnegan.
http://i.imgur.com/ItXO84T.jpg

Weapon is the hand scythe etc thing mentioned in the line right below.
http://i.imgur.com/qzj4CWM.jpg
or
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ac/94/5b/ac945b0dd01064d9da4f55569966de6c.jpg
not limited to that specific length, can extend a little bit
Big scythe has no specific picture.

Release is also mentioned right below, the crimson thing. Overly simplified its basically CS-amplified techniques, similar to how Sasuke's chidori turns from blue to a black hatabaku chidori with CS power. Just with higher risk-reward, say I blast some doomsday lazor it can roast the fuck out of my hand just as well as you.

So no, while I could for example copy Sasuke/Juugo trick of imbuing a susanoo for example, it doesn't by any means have senjutsus BS sudden 3X power up with zero risk and no chakra drain.

I don't only have chakra from every beast, but also both halves of Hago's power aka the palm markings, and CS. Regardless of whether one considers the balls to be mix of every beasts chakra and rikudou chakra, or every element put together and nature energy, I can still do it.

However if you want no gudodama then arguing over how they're acquired is pointless. You got Ohnoki's trick and I have like...2-3 ways to fly, so also pointless debate because we'd both be able to do it anyway.

As for chakra cloak itself, I do say its similar but not exactly like Naruto's, so if you want to cut the BS we can just say our cloaks are equal power and I won't use the balls.

Keeping meteor at hand isn't necessary because once you've completed your training next to it, you'll always have it. I don't remove the drawback, I simply know how to fix the inevitable damage afterward much like Tsunade did to Mizura. Calling it a buffing ability would also be false because it doesn't really mix with anything, only 'combo' jutsu ever seen is rasengan and even that only cause its just spinning the chakra, not trying to add fire or whatever into it.

You denying my custom teleports basically the same as denying kuchiyose no jutsu, because that's what its based off of, something I spent quite a few RL years at that establishing. Or what, would you rather I insist you drop incineration tech? Or whatever you call the fire-hozuki thing.

I dunno about rikudou chakra. If we both claim to use the exact same version of it or something, that means basically nothing happens cause we'll just go up the same level in power. Same stalemate would happen with limbo tbh.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 28, 2016, 05:42:33 AM
My assumption was that you would never simply put the Mazo on the line in a fight. So I wanted an IC match so I'd have a chance to steal it, learn of it, something. If you would agree to put up the Mazo with Shukaku then I'd still put up my bijuu and agree to the match being OOC, no argument. Sounds like a good compromise to me.

So does the Tomoe Rinnegan do anything but let you use your Mangekyo jutsu while your Rinnegan is active? Does it mean you maintain the Sharingan's better penetrative vision and tracking and such too?

Ok, it didn't click that the crimson release was what it gave you. That sounds fine then.

I of course don't care about flight so that is fine. If you are not claiming Senjuts or Goudama I have no problem with you saying your combined bijuu form is as strong as my Kurama transformations.

If that's what the star does then that is fine.

My issue with your teleport tech is you say it's basically Hiraishin and it's a pet peeve of mine when people just slightly change a claimed thing they don't have so they can use it. Not saying that was your logic when you made the jutsu but the fact that it's Hiraishin but slightly different, and you don't have Hiraishin, makes me want to say no. It's not that it's god mod. I did the same thing for Ryoji I wanted to void the Dragon Blade he had because it's just poor mans Samehada.

If you want to agree we just both don't have it that's fine with me. I use it less for a power up and more for the combination jutsu aspect though, Kamui Lightning Blade and such. I made a page for it, how does my explanation differ from yours?

http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Six_Paths_Power (http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Six_Paths_Power)
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 28, 2016, 06:35:49 PM
So you want OOC with you putting up every beast you got and me shukaku and mazo.

Does everything a normal and MS can do too, its basically the two eyes put together, which is actually canon cause Sasuke's eye does so too. Only real difference to him is that Warren's both eyes are like that, while Sasuke has just one and the switching places teleport thing. Other than that it has no battle applicable techniques, doing shit like making a portal to Kaguya's dimension is far too slow and chakra consuming.

The fact I made it specifically to step away from Hiraishin is why I refuse to drop it. Even I'd get it if it was just the product of "hiraishins cool so I'll just make something because lol magic", but this is the product of a longass development involving mixing reverse summoning, transcription and seals. Either you carve a complex as hell seal to two locations, with either chakra or blood left behind in each, and as long as you know where you're going activating either one will take the maker to the other. Transcription imbues the jutsu as a limited time chakra charge into something, activating once specific pre-set conditions are met such as 3 sec wait time or particular hand seal made, provided the charge hasn't either dispersed on its own by then or from act of someone else.

TL;DR hiraishin user teleports themselves, I get teleported by the seal.

I've so far only really used the palm markings, not a generalized "rikudou chakra" at all due to how broken it'd easily turn into if others started claiming its use. In any case, like I said I can't see that and limbo turning into anything else but stalemates so its best we just don't.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 28, 2016, 06:57:37 PM
Yes, exactly.

Is there a particular way you get tomoe'd Rinnegan? Because that's just strictly better than regular Rinnegan. Sasuke got it in one eye because he got half of the SosP's chakra, we can assume, so if he got it all he'd have it in both eyes, but why did you get them? Also, the wiki notes,

"His Rinnegan contains six tomoe split between its first two ripples and retains all of the abilities of his Mangekyō Sharingan.[13] If Sasuke overuses the power of his Rinnegan, the tomoe will disappear until it has fully recharged, a process which takes a considerable amount of time. During this time, he is unable to use the Rinnegan's full power and apparently cannot even activate the Mangekyō in his other eye."

So you've basically lost the boon of having EMS, you can screw your eyes up again. You don't go blind but you degrade into a normal rinnegan, lose all the Mangekyo abilities, and have all your Rinnegan abilities weakened. I don't mind you claiming the tomoe rinnegan as long as you mind this weakness as well.

Ok, the teleport jutsu sounds fine then.

Like I said, if you'd rather just agree to not use it at all than that's fine with me. That means you'd not be using your other custom Rinnegan technique, correct, the space time negating one? 
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 28, 2016, 08:06:25 PM
I'll have to think on it a bit.

I never quite believed in the ability to turn rinne and sharingan back and forth, so made rinne the base state, with practice learned to use sharingan techniques by briefly materializing the tomoe. In short custom. Eventually Sasuke's thing was revealed, revealing it was actually a potential base state for rinnegan, so I trained further to make it pseudo permanent for myself as well, not unlike how Itachi could keep his sharingan active nigh constantly.

I've offered helping few others get it, so far only one has taken the offer, they achieved it due to a legit non-implanted eye, severe trauma and life-or-death situation. Hardly perma state for them yet though, can only keep it active brief periods as of yet.

In short, in my book you get it via custom means, but even if one refutes that I have the palm markings so my base is solid either way.

Also I am aware of the drawback, yes.

No "rikudou chakra" or limbo then. The anti space time isn't a rinne tech though, as I believe I spoke of once to you. Seeing as space-time techs employ chakra, all you basically do is release the opposite sort of power, so the technique's thrown out of whack and cancelled. The whole opposites counter each other thing pretty much. Its something even you could do, had you ever learned how.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 28, 2016, 08:13:20 PM
Oki dokie.

I'll have to do something for myself with that later then.

I'm fine with no Rikudou chakra and no Limbo, I was under the impression your unique Rinnegan technique was the anti-space time ability though. I guess you just noted it then as for why you had Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi instead of Kamui? My misunderstanding. So if you just exude chakra from your body that means it has just a short range of effect around you?
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 28, 2016, 10:04:46 PM
Stakes aside for a sec I had a thought, who the hell is supposed to judge this if one will be needed. I can't think of anyone who wouldn't be biased for some reason or another.

I suppose the unique'd be limbo or something. And of course depends a bit on power, but generally doesn't go past few meters at most lest one splurges power into it. In theory I suppose you could lock down an area by peppering it with rods and conducting chakra into those, but it'd be rather cost-ineffective.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 29, 2016, 12:10:21 AM
Well that's awkward. My plan was to just ask you who you'd find to be acceptable and work from there.

And ok, I have no problem with that, I have a similar barrier technique.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 29, 2016, 12:14:03 AM
Someone ring? >>
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 29, 2016, 01:41:28 AM
Someone ring? >>

I mean that'd be fine with me. We'll see what Warren says.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 29, 2016, 02:30:36 AM
<_<; you two made a public display at kiri about being in cahoots about beast gathering, so why on earth would you ever side with me over him in anything
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 29, 2016, 02:35:22 AM
I didn't say it was a good idea.

Athos has also offered to be judge on account of he hates us both equally.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 29, 2016, 03:30:18 AM
I consider you both friends. I did do that with him, but I refused several times to go after you. I don't fight friends.

But I'm not going to sit here and ramble on why I can be the judge, it's not that thrilling of a job that I need to do that.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 29, 2016, 03:44:21 AM
As much as I hate him just the same, he does make a point, so Athos could be the first one.

Plus if that does go south we can just go for someone else then, be that Shadow or someone else.

No offense to you with prior comment btw Shadow.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 29, 2016, 04:29:12 AM
It's all good. ~

Remember to keep in mind of the judges activeness as well.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Hazama on May 29, 2016, 04:46:32 AM
It's all good. ~

Remember to keep in mind of the judges activeness as well.

I just got internet of my own ;p activity won't be a problem!

And I'm glad we finally agree on something, Warren <3
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 29, 2016, 04:51:15 AM
I feel like we're going to have to take what we can get as for as judges go so I've got no problem with Athos then.

Unless you have any questions about my techniques I think we're ready to go, once you decide if it's ooc and you're putting up the mazo or what have you.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on May 29, 2016, 05:15:51 AM
Don't even look at me. I am too ignorant of all these RInny-speduo-sharigan-ring tailed hawks to make any good calls.

I can however nit pick the hell out of Autohitting, metagaming, and character control issues. :P

I opt to form the heckling squad on the sidelines with the lawn chairs and bags of popcorn and all the other people not chosen to judge this fight...bring your own crying towels folks! Proceeds go to the retired shinobi fund... a legit org posted on the wikia via suna's page.
:P

*whistles back to her instigator's arena...with style!*
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 29, 2016, 04:37:05 PM
OOC and Shukaku only.

Had a look at your profile, since when has two KT's been a thing? Since you're claiming decay and dust.

Also I'm not seeing that anti space-time kekkai anywhere.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 29, 2016, 07:16:58 PM
Well if you're not willing to compromise on it let's just have someone, Athos I'd assume, flip a coin to decide of it's OOC or IC. Since there's no middle ground here we'll just decide it by chance, can you think of any other way?

To be fair Decay is basically Dust that only affects organic materials, so it wouldn't really matter if I used both, but I don't. I only use Dust now.

And the barrier is on the Akatsuki ring.
http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Akatsuki_Ring
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 29, 2016, 07:37:03 PM
I don't see why would it be up to even chance though, because even OOC you still get your challenge and chance at the beast, plus the mazo isn't a defense-obligated item so there's nothing to force me to bet it lest I want to.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 29, 2016, 07:42:23 PM
It has nothing to do with the Mazo. I want the fight to be IC, you want it to be OOC, and you wouldn't except my compromise on the matter which was incredibly lopsided in your favor as you got the match type you wanted for just having to put the Mazo up while I also put up not one but all my bijuu.

So unless you can think of another compromise on the matter we should just have our judge decided. And since whichever side loses is going to be irritated if he just picks the first thing that comes into his head he should decide it by chance and that way can't be accused of any kind of bias.

Do you have any other ideas?
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 29, 2016, 08:08:05 PM
It is about the mazo though, because only reason you're insisting on this is because you want it, you even said so earlier in the thread that you want it IC to either get info on it or steal it, or OOC with it up for grabs for winner.

Its not about your offer being bad, you'd lose basically everything if you lost, however I can flat out admit that unlike you I don't have boundless confidence that I'll win. Can't see myself losing, but not clearly winning either, so it makes me uneasy enough not to want to take the additional gamble. Losing Shukaku would suck but I could still live without it, hell I got chakras from every beast cept 0. Mazo however I have extensive plans for so I don't want to put it up to risk.

Hell I could even say we just drop the fight, you get part of Shukaku and leave me and my RPs alone. However I've a feeling you wouldn't take that either, because all you really care about on the site is juubi and unless you pull something with that jashin statue then without the mazo you can't do it.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 29, 2016, 08:13:58 PM
More accurate then would be to say the why is irrelevant. I want it IC, you want it OOC, and so far we haven't been able to compromise on it. Unless you have a compromise on the matter our judge should make a call.

No, I don't want to drop the fight, as you said I am confident I will win, I want to get the Shukaku as well as beat you. So what are we going to do?
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Suishou Koji on May 29, 2016, 08:38:29 PM
It should be Warren's decision if he wants the fight in IC or OOC. After all, he is the one with the beast that you desire.

And what does it matter if it's in IC? If you win, you still get what you want. The only reason I can think of on why you want it in IC is to kill off your opponent.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 29, 2016, 08:48:59 PM
It should be Warren's decision if he wants the fight in IC or OOC. After all, he is the one with the beast that you desire.

And what does it matter if it's in IC? If you win, you still get what you want. The only reason I can think of on why you want it in IC is to kill off your opponent.

I bet Koji isn't crawling out of the shadows just to again contribute nothing to the topic at hand and needle me.

You're getting predictable mate.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 29, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
No reason to diss him because I searched for what if we don't find a compromise and found this.

"You must set up match particulars with host within 7 days of notification or you will be bumped to the bottom of his/her challenge list."

I already agreed to a simple OOC match, winner keeps Shukaku, nothing is affected IC otherwise. This all checks out under the rules, that's been the most common match type even I believe.

You however are insisting on either IC or the OOC with extra bet. The mazo doesn't fall under beast rules, and I already agreed to a match type, so you're refusing an acceptable match for non-supported reasons. You also refused a trade.

So to my understanding things actually lean in my favor, meaning since you aren't taking trades you'd have to either take the non-mazo OOC fight, or drop the challenge.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 29, 2016, 10:43:53 PM
And your understanding would be wrong since it seems to operate under the assumption that since you've declared what match type you would like then i just have to agree to that or what ever you're willing to offer me or leave.

 The rules also say compromises must be made in the event of a deadlock and since we can't come to one I'm asking for a judge decision on the matter. I'm still suggesting just a coin flip for ooc or ic but that'll be up to him.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 29, 2016, 11:20:41 PM
Except you're trying to force a "compromise" with something that -yet again- is neither a challengeable thing nor governed under beast rules, whereas I have already agreed to a fight that's in perfect accordance of the rules yet you refuse to take simply because you don't like it.

I didn't want to be a dick but to blunt I'm not the one who's wrong here. You're the one who keeps refusing for no rule-justifiable reason, because you want to bend things according to your personal agenda.

I'm only obligated to defend Shukaku, you can't demand me to do more than that lest I want to.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Hazama on May 29, 2016, 11:30:26 PM
The fight hasn't even started yet, guys!

Alright, so it is true that Warren isn't obligated to defend the Mazo, seeing as how it isn't a beast but an 'item' of sorts. Warren doesn't want the IC match and turned down the OOC deal. While I'm always one for negotiation and deals, sometimes they just don't go how you want them.

But Bocch wants one of these two, though even if you erase the fact of him offering this compromise, he wants it IC.

It's a pain in the ass of a situation to be in, but unless the match started in IC, don't see the reason to force it into an IC match. They are usually a lot more tense and up beat and have a lot of butt-hurt during them.

So, as a judge, I'd say the fight should be OOC.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 30, 2016, 12:23:04 AM
Just like you won't take the match ic because you don't like it. I'm not arguing against an ooc match being a legitimate choice, it's just not any more legitimate than having the match ic. We each wanted one so I tried to give you a good compromise between the two, you know something better than take a cheap knock off of what you came for and leave.

Doesn't matter though Athos made his decision, the fight will be ooc, which means I'll just need to continue to pursue you after the fight is done. You've doubled the time we need to interact with each other, good job.

So again, if you have no further questions about my techniques or anything I think we are now ready to start.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 30, 2016, 12:39:21 AM
Whatever man.

Was it me who's supposed to post up the TL;DR agreement into actual fight thread now?

Also are we going a post per 7 days no matter what or 7 but 14 once if notified of RL issue beforehand
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 30, 2016, 01:16:17 AM
The defender traditionally makes the topic.

I also concede the right to go first or second to you, you may choose.

Yes we'd have to post once every 7 days, from the time of our last post. If you need the extension you can ask for an extra seven days. Was there anything else?
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 30, 2016, 01:26:38 AM
I know that I was just asking are we doing that or fuck that and 7 days only.

In any case nothing else I can think of, I'll go first and post it a bit later, tired atm.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 30, 2016, 01:36:25 AM
I didn't think that was an option, but no I have no desire to do that.

As long as you don't take a week to start I don't mind.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 31, 2016, 03:07:24 AM
Just because I want to keep the fight clean,

"As for chakra cloak itself, I do say its similar but not exactly like Naruto's, so if you want to cut the BS we can just say our cloaks are equal power and I won't use the balls."

Was what I agreed to not,

"Shukaku and Kyuubi equally powerful"

That is not the same thing, I agreed that your tandem bijuu mode with the chakra from all of them was as strong as my Nine Tails Modes, not that just the Shukaku was as strong as Kurama.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 31, 2016, 03:20:36 AM
Its the same thing in the end cause I wasn't gonna say I go above thanks to the rest, but if you so insist I can change it to say beasts >_>
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 31, 2016, 03:40:44 AM
Its the same thing in the end cause I wasn't gonna say I go above thanks to the rest, but if you so insist I can change it to say beasts >_>

Well Shukaku has its crappy sand forms, which are definitely not as strong as Kurama Mode. It was my understanding that you had a 9 Tails Mode-esque cloak from having chakra from all the beasts and that was going to be as strong as mine. As long as that is clear we're good.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 31, 2016, 03:52:12 AM
I can do the chakra thing stead of sand if I want to, yes.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 31, 2016, 08:46:47 AM
Not that I want to flat out accuse you of an asspull, but mind explaining this "man eating mist" of yours? Since you only got normal hidden mist listed with no mention of a variant or separate technique anywhere.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 31, 2016, 08:53:58 AM
Not that I want to flat out accuse you of an asspull, but mind explaining this "man eating mist" of yours? Since you only got normal hidden mist listed with no mention of a variant or separate technique anywhere.

One, our judge can confirm I did not just make it up, since I used it to kill him in the past.

Two, you don't have a list of your custom jutsu anywhere, nor a preference page requesting everything be publicly view-able to begin with. You didn't ask for anything so it's a little late now, unless you wan't me disputing every single technique you use beyond the general overview I have.

Three, you just said it yourself, it's not even a different jutsu, it's just a unique way of manipulating the Hidden Mist technique. Unless you're arguing I don't have Suiton I don't know what your plan is there.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 31, 2016, 09:02:16 AM
First line alone woulda been enough cause I kind of recall that now.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 31, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
First line alone woulda been enough cause I kind of recall that now.

Then where do we progress from here? You going to post?
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Warren on May 31, 2016, 09:10:08 AM
Yes, I had a post thought up before I asked anyway.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 31, 2016, 09:12:58 AM
Yes, I had a post thought up before I asked anyway.

Alrighty then, I shall await with bated breath.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: Bocchiere on May 31, 2016, 10:13:10 AM
Well can't say I am particularly surprised. Athos should be on tomorrow and we can get a ruling on the legitimacy of your post.
Title: Re: Official Challenge to Warren for Shukaku
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on June 01, 2016, 11:43:43 AM
In the dead of night a terrible screech is heard as one sideline heckler drags her aluminum folding lawn chair across the metal plate flooring along the outskirts of the battle field? Why are the sidelines metal plated? For the express purpose of creating terrible screeches when people drag in their aluminum folding lawn chairs in which to relax while they heckle from the sidelines, of course.  :D

The aroma of freshly popped pop corn permeates the stagnant air of yet another minor stalemate, as the crowd of invisible on-lookers cast wary sidelong glances at one another in pseudo dread and semi delight of what is yet to unfold...

Unfold you say? Why of course! It will be my pleasure.

She unfolds her chair and positions it with practiced precision just a fraction of an inch beyond the out of bounds protective barrier behind which she can heckle in absolute safety before seating her rather cushy self into the nylon weave of the garishly colored seat...Kayenta signature colors of clashing blue and green, naturally. Despite her diminutive form, the chair obliges to screech out in hideous teeth clenching fashion as her weight causes the support legs to splay apart a bit further upon the metallic surface of the sidelines.

Demon kin scramble about her as she is waited upon hand and foot while she prepares to perform her sacred duty. Reseda hands her a red and white striped bag of popcorn. Moenkopi's delicate fingers cause the bag to ruffle slightly as she reaches inside for a sampling bite. Depositing a warm blossom of the corn within her mouth she munches then utters, "Needs more butter." Her second eldest daughter rushes off to comply with her desire. Orion, Reseda's twin, puts a hot tub of water at her feet, a sprinkling of lavender scented ebsom salts acts as the solute for this most perfect of solutions to ease even the achiest of dragon feet. She pats the young man on the head. "Ah, very nice..." her feet submerge beneath the fluid and into the bath. "...not too hot but just right." Hywel is no where to be seen being much too young for such an excursion and is in the care of his father. Dafydd would not be caught dead out in public let alone at a sporting event for he is much too cool for that. Teenager...go figure.

It is Nayeli who hands her mother the air horn, her right hand supporting the wrist of the left which proffers the device, and then she promptly puts her fingers in her ears as she backs away. However, it is not until Reseda pours a bit more butter onto the popcorn, and another sampling is taken and found to be good, that those sublime fingers, quite coated in this tasty marinade of popped corn all over the world, doth deign to depress the trigger on the air horn.

A deafening blaring cuts through the crowd, just a little attention-getter as it were to herald the first side-line commentary of the match. "More blood! More tears! Booooooo!!! Hiss-Hiss!!!" She clears her throat and hands off the horn to her eldest and murmurs in a motherly tone of voice, "Thank you dear. That was nice." For some odd reason the demon-kin whet their teeth in a slight gnashing fashion upon sand paper at the mention of blood.

Nayeli offers her mother a cup of coffee but she waves it off. "Now dear, you know I don't take cream."