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Council / Re: Established Consequence
« on: August 28, 2017, 04:34:06 PM »
Agreed
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I find it peculiar how all these problems are only choosing to surface at this point, especially from Tobias. I've had numerous spars with you, mentioning gravity seals before, but you've never said anything about any problems you had. If they were as big a deal as you're making, wouldn't you, a scientist, come to me and say, "Dude, that's not how gravity works. Your seals should kill you." Because you never have. Now, you say Lee's ankle weights are 10,000 on each leg. How can he move around with 20,000 pounds? Can a normal human react to the speed of light? Can someone raise the dead, revive the dead, rip someone's soul right out of them? Can a human regenerate an arm? Can a normal person shoot fire, the same temperature as the surface of the sun out of their eyes? Can a normal person, through the laws of physics, do anything in the shinobi world? Its not simply, chakra bro. Its the fact that it's an anime. Completely fictional. And SL is a game, based off a piece of fiction. So, using real world science on something that's not real, doesn't seem fair to me. You say this isn't dragonball z, but its also not real life. So, yes, in this universe, I find it completely plausible that after getting myself used to raising my mass, with chakra and all that biz that this universe has, that I can still be pumping blood in my insides, especially since the seal's purpose is to be regulating all those negative affects. Sure, using real science is nifty, but don't forget that nothing could be done by the person behind either of those screens, in this exact moment of time. Also, if my mass is even greater, and with this being fictional, with the fact that I've steadily grew used to the new levels of gravity, then the benefit is even greater. But, obviously that wouldn't matter, since, at this moment of time, they're not even activated.
When I said the part about the Mokuton, I wasn't controlling their speed. I was aware of my speed. When I said the part about the Regeneration, I wasn't saying that it would start, I was simply mentioning it as something completely passive.
You continue talking about auto-dodge, but that's only continuing to imply that they're unavoidable. It wasn't mentioned that they were unavoidable in Rusaku's post, so, I did what I did to avoid them. How different is that from any zone fight? Like, I throw a punch at your face. Is that considered unavoidable? No, because in real time, the opponent can see the punch and do what he needs to do to avoid it. This depends on the skill between the two fighters. Can the target react fast enough to move out of the way? Can the puncher throw his attack fast enough to put the necessary pressure on to cause the hit? If yes for the attacker, the punch lands. If yes for the target, the punch misses. Same for this situation. Could I avoid the wood, yes. Did I do what was necessary to avoid the wood, yes. Did Rusaku increase the speed of the wood, not necessarily. He made them shake and shift, but that's not enough for a seasoned shinobi to lose their footing. I understand your point about the clones eating the wood.
Either way, with the clone's sacrifice being the first, the Sage Seal being the second and Chaos Sage Mode being the last action, I'll only be left with movement. Thus, I'll have my repost up after I get back from work.
... As for the revival fist, it's clear based on what Jay wrote that he's using the super revival fist. Additionally, the page itself says that the regular revival fist causes "tremendous internal damage" and the Super Revival Fist hits with "tremendous bone-shattering force". Presumably the latter is a stronger version of the original technique, so Ray's description of it seems appropriate to me.
Well, using Jay's repost for highlight, I think my confusion can be seen at least:
Original ~The orb, if it hits Jestar, would create a shock wave that would cause severe internal damage, likely throwing his organs around inside him, which would be more than any one could handle and easily kill. In addition, the shockwave caused by the orb, correctly known as Revival Fist, would send the man flying with plenty of force that he'd attain damage from every bounce he'd make on the ground.
New ~
The orb, if it hits Jestar, would create a shock wave that would cause severe internal damage, likely throwing his organs around inside him, which would be more than any one could handle and easily kill. In addition, the shockwave caused by the orb, correctly known as Super Revival Fist, would send the man flying with plenty of force that he'd attain damage from every bounce he'd make on the ground...
He described the Super version from the get-go, yes, but called it the regular version, hence my confusion. And bone-shattering force and organ jumbling are not the same thing though they are not far off. Jestar could take the hit to his side and, with bone shatteirng force, lose a few ribs and some serious internal bleeding, but not get his intestines knocked out of place; if Jestar takes that hit to the side with organ displacing force, his intestines might find themselves playing pingpong with the spine and abdominal muscles, with a kidney as a wild ball thrown into the court.
One of those is lethal, one of those is not in this context. Bone shattering and organ sloshing can both be considered tremendous internal damage (the latter obviously more extreme) so naturally I wanted to be clear on which Jestar has to deal with before deciding between my options.
*I'd like to add that, in Jay's repost, only a single explosion occurs as a result of his stepping into the doton swamp. Since the armor reforms everytime it is triggered and the doton swamp with some bits of Raiton constantly beneath him, shouldn't there be more than one explosion if not a constant chain of explosions that disrupt his footing more than just a little bit? After all the explosions were strong enough to destroy streams of Raiton, and anywhere his feet touch the swamp technique the armor should be triggered if I understand this armor right.
Okay, so now we need execution. How are we going to go about setting this up? Some random event that the summoners join? The summoners do their own RP to get there or something?