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Discussions / Re: The Current Thus Far.
« on: May 05, 2012, 06:15:26 AM »
Some techniques have been "claimed" mainly due to being "too much" to leave lying around for grabs.

I can't wait till I actually put up my copyrights...I bet we won't see eye to eye that much afterwards.  :oops:
Only canon kinjutsu and summonings should be considered claimable... but hey, I wanna see what you have in mind!  :)

I would but it will cause complaints amongst the community of the "claimed" since my copyrighted will contradict most jutsus that people began listing as their "claimed" custom or canon jutsu.  :roll:
I mean look what happened with the Sword of Totsuka and I made the original claim on it before giving it to someone who won't defile such use of the technique.

If you're the originator, then, please add yourself as an user of Edo Tensei, Kamui. But know that the technique was downgraded. I'll PM you the rules of it tomorrow. 

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Discussions / Re: The Current Thus Far.
« on: May 05, 2012, 05:34:21 AM »
I wasn't aware that Ryuuji gave the reanimation technique's blueprints to you, Kamui. But since Ryuuji was your neo subordinate for quite some time, I suppose I missed something.

Were you part of the cult? Are there records of you using Edo Tensei? When?

That aside, I do like to mention that Edo Tensei was downgraded in power. If you have records of using Edo Tensei, then, by all means, use the technique. Just know it's not as free.

MI: Aside from you, Kamui, I also obtained the eternal mangekyou sharingan through traditional means. It's quite true. Now that I'm thinking more about it, I got a hint on how to obtain it through you.  I don't know if you can recall, but we crossed paths long ago... During the time Ryuuji's Guntai was in war with Neo, you carelessly rp'd through Madara, your previous account, before me and my partner in the zones.

You rp'd your way in, and introduced yourself before us, saying, "Nice eyes (I was known as Uchiha back then)." Of course, Madara, your account, was the one who chattered away and hinted that hatred was the the key to upgrading my eyes. At that time, I had Mangekyou sharingans.
And so... I killed Joker, my Uchiha brother, took his eyes, and implant them to mine a year later.

I have no clue on how others obtained their Eternal Mangekyou Sharingans, but I'm not relinquishing mine.

Edit: I'll post the rules of Edo Tensei tomorrow. It's somewhere on my computer.

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Discussions / Re: The Current Thus Far.
« on: May 05, 2012, 04:36:07 AM »
Makaze is me, Pete. But I was unaware that someone put me as a council. Who the hell did that?

Edit: Well, just for future reference, I'm not taking a council seat -- and never planned to. Please exclude my name from the list. I'm just here to give my input and make suggestions. 

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Discussions / Re: The Current Thus Far.
« on: May 04, 2012, 06:09:59 PM »
As for sitters, I am still waiting for someone to elaborate the equivalent of pvp range to match the 80dk+ part, if we include an amount  of wins, I'd say 480.

Quite ridiculous. 480 pvp will take 5-6 months to achieve. As an expert leveler, dking isn't that hard. I could reach 80 dks in a couple of weeks.
Go less.

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That matter is still under question since we have no definite evidence that Orochimaru and Kabuto aren't Senjus. Until such evidence is seen via manga, Edo Tensei, being too powerful, will be crippled. That's it.

Now, back to the main topic. I concur with Kamui. We should stick to the subject and refrain from getting sidetrack.

Now that we've lost Moenkopi -- who I thought to be a good council based on her judgement, activeness, and rp-abilities (that's just my opinion) -- I think we should discuss the limit of councils.  In total, I think there should be 15 councils --  the 5 official kages from the great nations, and 10 others from anywhere.

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I've touched on that matter already. Check a few pages back.

As for limiting Edo Tensei even more... Alright. I concur.

No more resurrecting already-dead, active SL users. As Rares said, from now on, it's a battle-only ninpou. Trev, just claim your life. Bocchiere's methods of rping are ludicrous anyway. 

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Where are these edo tensei rules located?

I saved it on my computer before Edo Tensei, the organization, was deleted. I'll post it somewhere appropriate when I find such a place.
If that Photoshop-user Quest is still aiming to revive SLS, then I'll post it there.

MI: If I recall correctly, I blessed you with free will. You're fine.

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Pirated kg's, especially dk-accessible ones, should be considered god-modding if the possessor doesn't have the appropriate reborn status. End of story.

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Frankly, I always allowed non-reborn-80+dk accounts to use custom KG's via rp. As long as it's a KG that's not DK-accessible, I'm fine allowing them to use their KG.

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Neither the host nor the challenger is obliged to acknowledge kg that have not been reset for.

What of users with custom KG? Originality can't die. 

Exceptions from this rule are sitters with a pvp range of 60dk above theirs, they have the right to one kg as long as not exaggerated i.e. on a par with a maxed doujutsu, etc.

Being a sitter for a short time, I tell you, it's not easy buffing nor defeating Sannin+ accounts. During pvp fights, most of the time, the one with more speed ends up winner; sitters lack speed. Instead, I suggest sitters are only able to claim a KG, one that's not DK-accessible, when they reach 240 PVP wins, which is possible to achieve after 3+ months.

80*3=240

- 80 = reset requirement
- 3 =  pvp per gameday
- 240 = result of multiplying  80 and 3
 
Well, that's just some numbers that I thought to be fair.

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But I like the idea of more minds on one subject.

Same here; that's why I suggested it.  Any ideas?


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If this council idea is too pass -- or at least resume -- then we must ask what are the credentials to become a council. Has that been established yet?

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Officially, no -- but all ninpou-related information from Mangetsu has been transfered to me, which makes sense since its my alt. Also note that Mangetsu wasn't an official jinchuuriki, he having not harboring the beast within his own vessel and all. He was just a possessor and nothing more.

As for Edo Tensei: I made rules that non-Senju shinobis didn't have sufficient chakra to use the ninpou, for it required a huge charka pool to summon one reanimated shinobi. Jinchuurikis, of course, are an exception to the rule. To limit the powers of Edo Tensei, any chakra-based ninpou used by the reanimated shinobi, will be subtracted from the user's chakra pool. Such rules were made in Edo Tensei, the organization.

MI: The manga has yet to show a non-senju shinobi using Edo Tensei. The rules are fair.

You never mentioned that part to me, about draining my chakra for them to do jutsu. How does Kabuto have Senju cells though? So far I need to get another living player to sacrifice, they need to have at least one reset in the areas of the person I am reviving and now they drain my chakra too. You're taking away pretty much every advantage of the jutsu. The immortality isn't even that big a deal as anyone good is going to have fuinjutsu.


The advantage are the following:
- Depending on your reanimation collection, you have a variety of ninpou to choose from
- Immortal weapons

That's it. Edo Tensei, just like Itachi's sealing sword, is too overpowered to be used on SL, hence the reason why the ninpou was debuffed.

MF: I thought I told you about that section of the rules... Oh well, I recall you being a Konogakure shinobi, and that's why I allowed you to use Edo Tensei. Your situation doesn't change much.

I'd probably be better off just applying Earth Grudge Fear to myself. Anyway, still curious how mangetsu was able to do it.

Mangetsu's part Seju and Gekidoku. I know, I know. You're not the first one to question it; that's why I chose to officially reborn him as a Hyuuga for the public. Him having captured the Saiken helped, too.

Anyway, was the council idea dropped? I'm too lazy to read all 13 pages.

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Officially, no -- but all ninpou-related information from Mangetsu has been transfered to me, which makes sense since its my alt. Also note that Mangetsu wasn't an official jinchuuriki, he having not harboring the beast within his own vessel and all. He was just a possessor and nothing more.

As for Edo Tensei: I made rules that non-Senju shinobis didn't have sufficient chakra to use the ninpou, for it required a huge charka pool to summon one reanimated shinobi. Jinchuurikis, of course, are an exception to the rule. To limit the powers of Edo Tensei, any chakra-based ninpou used by the reanimated shinobi, will be subtracted from the user's chakra pool. Such rules were made in Edo Tensei, the organization.

MI: The manga has yet to show a non-senju shinobi using Edo Tensei. The rules are fair.

You never mentioned that part to me, about draining my chakra for them to do jutsu. How does Kabuto have Senju cells though? So far I need to get another living player to sacrifice, they need to have at least one reset in the areas of the person I am reviving and now they drain my chakra too. You're taking away pretty much every advantage of the jutsu. The immortality isn't even that big a deal as anyone good is going to have fuinjutsu.


The advantage are the following:
- Depending on your reanimation collection, you have a variety of ninpou to choose from
- Immortal weapons

That's it. Edo Tensei, just like Itachi's sealing sword, is too overpowered to be used on SL, hence the reason why the ninpou was debuffed.

MF: I thought I told you about that section of the rules... Oh well, I recall you being a Konohagakure shinobi, and that's why I allowed you to use Edo Tensei. Your situation doesn't change much.

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Officially, no -- but all ninpou-related information from Mangetsu has been transfered to me, which makes sense since its my alt. Also note that Mangetsu wasn't an official jinchuuriki, he having not harboring the beast within his own vessel and all. He was just a possessor and nothing more.

As for Edo Tensei: I made rules that non-Senju shinobis didn't have sufficient chakra to use the ninpou, for it required a huge charka pool to summon one reanimated shinobi. Jinchuurikis, of course, are an exception to the rule. To limit the powers of Edo Tensei, any chakra-based ninpou used by the reanimated shinobi, will be subtracted from the user's chakra pool. Such rules were made in Edo Tensei, the organization.

MI: The manga has yet to show a non-senju shinobi using Edo Tensei. The rules are fair. 

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