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Title: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 03:51:02 AM
Okay I'm going to pop this little topic of Jinchūriki on sl are, for the most part, inactive.

We have set up, revamped, talked a lot about bijuu rules so much you'd think people would get in their heads, but no. We have to keep drilling it in hoping for it to stick.

There are two (2) things a host needs to do to keep their precious;

Jinchūriki have an obligation to roleplay, posting in a public location outside their village of residence at least once every fortnight for the length of a day, even if it's just to visit another village. Those unaffiliated with a village should either post in a village or in the zones.
Jinchūriki have an obligation to be active, and are stripped of their bijū if they cannot get online and do their round (1 post in public a fortnight), regardless of the reason. The leader of their clan will inherit the bijū; if the jinchūriki wasn't in a clan, then a tournament/event can be arranged to determine a suitable host.

These are mandatory. These are not something you can be like; 'Today I just....I just don't feel like it."

Yet over 1/2 with bijuu do just that.

I can list them if needed, but I'm sure you can investigate yourself. Do I have sufficent evidence? You bet your ass I do. You can go look in the zones yourself. I have yet to see anyone since Yujo left post publicly as a host.

So this is what we need to fix as a community. Get the bijuu to follow the rules. If they don't want to follow them then they lose the bijuu. They should know the rules when they attain a beast.

Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Eric on May 03, 2014, 05:11:08 AM
For the most part, I have been keeping up with my obligation, the zones (desert and plains for recently) but I have noticed that there are not many jincks who do.

It is a situation, indeed, and with an active hunter clan in play, it is one that is going to be a little more pertinent as time wears on as more people start hunting tailed beasts.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Angra Mainyu on May 03, 2014, 08:18:20 AM
I haven't seen either Dart, Isa or Xia post anywhere other than Kiri in a while (even longer than 2 weeks).

Kiri water you doing?
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Bocchiere on May 03, 2014, 09:01:10 AM
The only reason I agree with the leaving the village rule is that pretty much every village but Suna is impossible to infiltrate due to the ridiculous defense surrounding them. So a fight against those Jinchuriki will never be anything but a full scale attack. Not like it is a problem for me, but hey, maybe some other people want Jinchuriki too.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 09:10:19 AM
Kayenta I did say 1/2 of them. I said I could name the inactive ones, but thought that you guys could sort them out and indeed you did. Those who are active need not to be brought up.

Anyways, like Bocc said, most villages now have to many defenses for just a jink capturing. Kiri has the forest and the mist, Iwa has a barrier, Oto has one, ect. Full scale attacks are the only way.

Also the rules said they could post in a public zone and just wait a full day and go back. If no one decides to respond to them being there then they go back. If you look it doesn't have to be a different village, it can be a zone also.

I brought this up because mostly the Kiri nin are the ones who just sit. Dart does rp, I'll give him that, but Isa and Xia don't do anything. These rules are made to follow, not toss aside.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Kage on May 03, 2014, 09:33:39 AM
Well that's just the hazard of having a Bijuu/Jinchuriki. If someone wants a Bijuu, they go hunt down them down. If someone wants to defend their Bijuu, then they have to defend it. Both sides run a risk when trying to hold a claim on these chakra monsters that grant special powers and status.

And this rule about a Jinchuriki needing to be outside their village can be easily exploitable. For example: What if Zen decides to take the local acads of Kumo to the woods just outside the village for a camping trip? I'm not saying that we need to change it, but I'm just saying that it's within the rules to do that, since that alone runs it's risks for both sides.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Angra Mainyu on May 03, 2014, 11:09:06 AM
And this rule about a Jinchuriki needing to be outside their village can be easily exploitable. For example: What if Zen decides to take the local acads of Kumo to the woods just outside the village for a camping trip? I'm not saying that we need to change it, but I'm just saying that it's within the rules to do that, since that alone runs it's risks for both sides.
If Zen's making himself more easily accessible, then what's the problem? The fact that defenders can reach him faster? Well attackers can reach him pretty fast too, so big deal.

The only reason I agree with the leaving the village rule is that pretty much every village but Suna is impossible to infiltrate due to the ridiculous defense surrounding them. So a fight against those Jinchuriki will never be anything but a full scale attack. Not like it is a problem for me, but hey, maybe some other people want Jinchuriki too.
Maybe other people should put more thought into obtaining bijuu beyond simply locating, extracting it out from a jinchuuriki?

Also the rules said they could post in a public zone and just wait a full day and go back. If no one decides to respond to them being there then they go back. If you look it doesn't have to be a different village, it can be a zone also.

I brought this up because mostly the Kiri nin are the ones who just sit. Dart does rp, I'll give him that, but Isa and Xia don't do anything. These rules are made to follow, not toss aside.
A zone's perfectly fine, though another village would be more favorable as there'd likely be others present who aren't particularly fond of bijuu hunters (and there being safeguards in place).

The fact that the rules aren't being followed by those who've acknowledged them at some point is unacceptable though, and as a result those who haven't followed them should be stripped of their prize and given to somebody else in their clan (or have some event hosted to determine who receives it).
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 11:19:05 AM
I'm going to send a pm out to all currently inactive or semi active hosts that are not following rules. Containing this topic and a copy of the rules. They'll have a time span of a week to choose to follow the rules or they can argue against them on this thread. Those who do neither I will start new threads on stripping them. Then the kage or those who are perceived as higher ups can reassign them or w/e.

EDIT: I have sent out the pm to these hosts;

Uchiha Rinn (Kind of active, but only in the Kusa clan, which doesn't even have village board)
Isaribi
Xiarawst
Shinko
Dart (Just to remind him to post outside of his village as he's been rp'ing actively)
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: UettoSenju on May 03, 2014, 03:33:26 PM
I should invite them all to Konoha so they can come rp wise and be fling these rules. Then I snatch all ther tailed beast >:D
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Eric on May 03, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
I should invite them all to Konoha so they can come rp wise and be fling these rules. Then I snatch all ther tailed beast >:D

Announcing your plan would probably make that a difficult endeavor, though I like where your head is at with the whole trap idea.  :cool:


...Why do hosts have to leave their village to be considered active? They are logging in, they are rping...that ought to be good enough. IT was my understanding that the activity rule was to make sure someone didn't get a bijuu then only log in every 90 days just to keep from being deleted. Isn't the whole point of a village putting a bijuu into a host for village defense? well what good is that if he is off site seeing round the world? It makes no RP sense to me.


Well, the rule was to get the jincks out of their hidey hole, and have their defenders have something to do other than sit in their garrison and wait to be attacked. In a peaceful world like ours (not even exaggerating on that one) it is not that much to ask that folks leave their village once every two weeks.

They do not even have to go far! They could just go to the local forest or sea or something, with three ANBU literally on stand-by in case shit hits the fan. Being a missing ninja jinck is  a pain because unless you find some affiliation, you're on your own almost all the time.

Unless you're someone like Zenaku, getting gang-banged is going to put a damper on your wishes to be a solo pubber (WoT reference). Been there, done that, and I thank Kamui and Trev for being good sports about it.  8)


...A zone's perfectly fine, though another village would be more favorable as there'd likely be others present who aren't particularly fond of bijuu hunters (and there being safeguards in place)...


Actually, if you're among the major nation-clans (or even a small one) it is usually more beneficial to be in the zones during this time, particularly the border region of the village. Never too far from allies, and it is not out of the ordinary for defensive networks to expand some distance beyond the actual village (patrols are what I mean here).

Going away to some foreign village almost defeats the purpose since they will have their own hidey hole system that you'll have to go through. This is fine, but if we're making them leave their home village just for them to go to another fortified village, if they travel using Kamui or something like that, it kind of defeats the purpose of the regulation in the first place.

Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Angra Mainyu on May 03, 2014, 04:52:10 PM
Going away to some foreign village almost defeats the purpose since they will have their own hidey hole system that you'll have to go through. This is fine, but if we're making them leave their home village just for them to go to another fortified village, if they travel using Kamui or something like that, it kind of defeats the purpose of the regulation in the first place.
Then why don't the invaders use Kamui as well, then?

If they can't (barriers being picky about who can and can't do it), then they'll need to adopt a different approach. For instance, does every village have such a barrier, and did the jinchuuriki access a village without one? Establishing extensive information networks would be a good step into coping with this.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 06:25:27 PM
You cannot auto kamui into villages. That's against the rules. If you are not of that village trying to do such will be voided. You'll need to pass via the gates, which isn't too hard to do unless you're known in rp or it'd be metagamed.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Bocchiere on May 03, 2014, 06:30:52 PM
You cannot auto kamui into villages. That's against the rules. If you are not of that village trying to do such will be voided. You'll need to pass via the gates, which isn't too hard to do unless you're known in rp or it'd be metagamed.

What? << That doesn't make any sense unless the village has some time space barrier. Why don't they just cut out the middle man and say it's god mod to be able to sneak into a village?
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 06:37:54 PM
I was under the assumption all the villages now have a barrier.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Bocchiere on May 03, 2014, 06:44:26 PM
I was under the assumption all the villages now have a barrier.

I didn't think anyone had a barrier preventing Time-Space jutsu, according to the wiki anyway
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 06:44:55 PM
At least a detection measurement of sorts.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Isaribi on May 03, 2014, 07:30:46 PM
Okay I'm going to pop this little topic of Jinchūriki on sl are, for the most part, inactive.

We have set up, revamped, talked a lot about bijuu rules so much you'd think people would get in their heads, but no. We have to keep drilling it in hoping for it to stick.

There are two (2) things a host needs to do to keep their precious;

Jinchūriki have an obligation to roleplay, posting in a public location outside their village of residence at least once every fortnight for the length of a day, even if it's just to visit another village. Those unaffiliated with a village should either post in a village or in the zones.
Jinchūriki have an obligation to be active, and are stripped of their bijū if they cannot get online and do their round (1 post in public a fortnight), regardless of the reason. The leader of their clan will inherit the bijū; if the jinchūriki wasn't in a clan, then a tournament/event can be arranged to determine a suitable host.

These are mandatory. These are not something you can be like; 'Today I just....I just don't feel like it."

Yet over 1/2 with bijuu do just that.

I can list them if needed, but I'm sure you can investigate yourself. Do I have sufficent evidence? You bet your ass I do. You can go look in the zones yourself. I have yet to see anyone since Yujo left post publicly as a host.

So this is what we need to fix as a community. Get the bijuu to follow the rules. If they don't want to follow them then they lose the bijuu. They should know the rules when they attain a beast.

Can you direct me to the original place where these rules are written and established?

I'd like to see them before I raise protest to the point that telling me I must travel as a form of RP, especially when I have RPed publicly within my village, is a form of character control. Dart, Xiarawst, and I all have pertinent duties within Kirigakure; we leave if we are needed somewhere, but we are all ninja of Kirigakure who have duties that we must attend to within Kirigakure.

Point in fact, this rule does not make sense being employed. If we are Jinchuuriki who hold allegiance to a village, we are an asset. If there is a hunting group moving around and there is nothing our village needs us to be doing outside its borders, there is no reason for us to leave. In fact, it would be completely plausible for our village to keep us confined.

If a rule's only basis in being implemented is to make it easier for those to whom the rule does not actually apply, then the rule is not a very good one.

So, direct me to the context of this "I must leave my country" rule, if you don't mind.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Bocchiere on May 03, 2014, 07:48:00 PM
The context of the rule is that I also have a bijuu, and I have no village. So I can just stay 5 miles under the earth in my Akatsuki hideout, rping publically with the members there, and no one will ever find me. I could do the same thing with the 4 tails as Kyu does with the Mazo.

You can leave the village and go to the beach or something right there, and have 15 ANBU members with you, the point is to just give some kind of chance to do anything but full scale war on a village. We could try and infiltrate a village but I am sure we'd be meta-gamed to death.

Don't worry Isa, they just don't know that you're the one who makes the rules yet.

Right, and the topic: http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7870.0.html
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 07:52:06 PM
Okay I'm going to pop this little topic of Jinchūriki on sl are, for the most part, inactive.

We have set up, revamped, talked a lot about bijuu rules so much you'd think people would get in their heads, but no. We have to keep drilling it in hoping for it to stick.

There are two (2) things a host needs to do to keep their precious;

Jinchūriki have an obligation to roleplay, posting in a public location outside their village of residence at least once every fortnight for the length of a day, even if it's just to visit another village. Those unaffiliated with a village should either post in a village or in the zones.
Jinchūriki have an obligation to be active, and are stripped of their bijū if they cannot get online and do their round (1 post in public a fortnight), regardless of the reason. The leader of their clan will inherit the bijū; if the jinchūriki wasn't in a clan, then a tournament/event can be arranged to determine a suitable host.

These are mandatory. These are not something you can be like; 'Today I just....I just don't feel like it."

Yet over 1/2 with bijuu do just that.

I can list them if needed, but I'm sure you can investigate yourself. Do I have sufficent evidence? You bet your ass I do. You can go look in the zones yourself. I have yet to see anyone since Yujo left post publicly as a host.

So this is what we need to fix as a community. Get the bijuu to follow the rules. If they don't want to follow them then they lose the bijuu. They should know the rules when they attain a beast.

Can you direct me to the original place where these rules are written and established?

I'd like to see them before I raise protest to the point that telling me I must travel as a form of RP, especially when I have RPed publicly within my village, is a form of character control. Dart, Xiarawst, and I all have pertinent duties within Kirigakure; we leave if we are needed somewhere, but we are all ninja of Kirigakure who have duties that we must attend to within Kirigakure.

Point in fact, this rule does not make sense being employed. If we are Jinchuuriki who hold allegiance to a village, we are an asset. If there is a hunting group moving around and there is nothing our village needs us to be doing outside its borders, there is no reason for us to leave. In fact, it would be completely plausible for our village to keep us confined.

If a rule's only basis in being implemented is to make it easier for those to whom the rule does not actually apply, then the rule is not a very good one.

So, direct me to the context of this "I must leave my country" rule, if you don't mind.

I can direct as soon as I dig up the thread, but trust that these are the rules.

Also as far as your excuse of duty you have none. Literally. If there were evidence to support your claim of having too many village duties to attend to then sure, but you don't as far as I can tell. (If you do show any proof then I'll take this all back) The only one of you three actively doing anything is Dart. Xia's last post was more than 2 weeks ago and you never really posted at all within the last month, excluding the post you made yesterday.

Point in fact we are not making you travel to an ungoldy location on a trip that'll take 4 years, no. If you just rp going into zone 2 then that's fine. You only have to be there one (1) day. You all do not have to leave the village at once. So take turns if you are really that worried about being attacked. Being holed in the village will increase the chances of the village as a whole being attacked rather than just you. So the right thing would actually be; to do this once every two weeks post. As said you can take a whole group out with you if you want more protection. I don't care, just do what the rules say and we can all move on.

Edit: Thank you Bocc. ^
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Eric on May 03, 2014, 08:10:57 PM
You cannot auto kamui into villages. That's against the rules. If you are not of that village trying to do such will be voided. You'll need to pass via the gates, which isn't too hard to do unless you're known in rp or it'd be metagamed.

What? << That doesn't make any sense unless the village has some time space barrier. Why don't they just cut out the middle man and say it's god mod to be able to sneak into a village?


It is considered bad form to just Kamui into a village and attack it (or attack it later on even). Many villages also require you to go through the gate system in order to be accepted, for logical reasons of village defense.

Exceptions are obviously made, but it is typically frowned upon for enemies to just show up in the middle of the village via space-time techniques. It used to be like that in Konoha especially, but recently I think it has significantly become laxed, though I have not seen attackers try to space-time their way in in recent times, so it might just be an unplucked string.

Going away to some foreign village almost defeats the purpose since they will have their own hidey hole system that you'll have to go through. This is fine, but if we're making them leave their home village just for them to go to another fortified village, if they travel using Kamui or something like that, it kind of defeats the purpose of the regulation in the first place.
Then why don't the invaders use Kamui as well, then?

If they can't (barriers being picky about who can and can't do it), then they'll need to adopt a different approach. For instance, does every village have such a barrier, and did the jinchuuriki access a village without one? Establishing extensive information networks would be a good step into coping with this.

Although I answered above (somewhat) I will make a shorter version for the sake of quoting. Natives tend to be able to enter the village almost however they so choose, allies may get special privlages OOcly, and enemies are almost certainly berated for entering via space-time techniques.

http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Konohagakure

Rule #1 for Konoha: No foreigners are to auto-enter or exit Konoha. Doing so will result in a warning, ask for said player to repost, and if they don't comply, they will be ignored.

This may be outdated, but similar ones are present in many villages who have a profile on there:

http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Kirigakure

http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Otogakure#In-Game_Rules

http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Sunagakure#In-Game_Rules

http://narutoprofile.wikia.com/wiki/Kumogakure#In-Game_Rules

And so on and so forth. Whether this reflects current regulations within the said villages or not I am not 100% on, but there is warrant for attackers not to willy nilly enter via Kamui.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Bocchiere on May 03, 2014, 08:12:38 PM
I always assumed that just meant you cannot post "I climb over the gates and sneak in the village and no one sees me." That you can't god mod entering the village undetected, essentially.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Isaribi on May 03, 2014, 08:16:29 PM
"As far as you can tell."

It is quite apparent that how far you can tell as to my duties is not very far.
There are things going on in Kirigakure that require both Dart and myself to remain in the city for a little while. Just because you do not see things does not mean they are not happening.

Heck. It shouldn't be too hard to guess that Dart, Xia, and I have something going on within Kirigakure, especially with that scumbag on the loose again.

So, direct me to the context of the rule.


As far as auto-entering goes, I think Kiri unanimously accepts Kamui, or other methods, as a viable way to enter Kiri. But, if we find you within the walls and aren't happy about your presence, we usually get upset. Essentially, yeah, you can teleport into Kiri. But if we find you, don't get upset if we attack first and ask questions later.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Bocchiere on May 03, 2014, 08:18:57 PM
As far as auto-entering goes, I think Kiri unanimously accepts Kamui, or other methods, as a viable way to enter Kiri. But, if we find you within the walls and aren't happy about your presence, we usually get upset. Essentially, yeah, you can teleport into Kiri. But if we find you, don't get upset if we attack first and ask questions later.

That makes sense to me. Otherwise it would literally just be "It is god mod to infiltrate a village undetected."
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Isaribi on May 03, 2014, 08:20:55 PM
As far as auto-entering goes, I think Kiri unanimously accepts Kamui, or other methods, as a viable way to enter Kiri. But, if we find you within the walls and aren't happy about your presence, we usually get upset. Essentially, yeah, you can teleport into Kiri. But if we find you, don't get upset if we attack first and ask questions later.

That makes sense to me. Otherwise it would literally just be "It is god mod to infiltrate a village undetected."

Which is totally wrong. This is a website about ninjas, after all.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 08:21:37 PM
"As far as you can tell."

It is quite apparent that how far you can tell as to my duties is not very far.
There are things going on in Kirigakure that require both Dart and myself to remain in the city for a little while. Just because you do not see things does not mean they are not happening.

Heck. It shouldn't be too hard to guess that Dart, Xia, and I have something going on within Kirigakure, especially with that scumbag on the loose again.

So, direct me to the context of the rule.


As far as auto-entering goes, I think Kiri unanimously accepts Kamui, or other methods, as a viable way to enter Kiri. But, if we find you within the walls and aren't happy about your presence, we usually get upset. Essentially, yeah, you can teleport into Kiri. But if we find you, don't get upset if we attack first and ask questions later.

I am in the clan and can see the village board. My sight to your duties is pretty solid, you have none.  Even if you did it takes you one day to do this every two weeks. That's it.

Once again the link; http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7870.0.html

The village teleportation via kamui is allowed by most, just they usually have a way to detect you even if you use it.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Isaribi on May 03, 2014, 08:29:19 PM
"As far as you can tell."

It is quite apparent that how far you can tell as to my duties is not very far.
There are things going on in Kirigakure that require both Dart and myself to remain in the city for a little while. Just because you do not see things does not mean they are not happening.

Heck. It shouldn't be too hard to guess that Dart, Xia, and I have something going on within Kirigakure, especially with that scumbag on the loose again.

So, direct me to the context of the rule.


As far as auto-entering goes, I think Kiri unanimously accepts Kamui, or other methods, as a viable way to enter Kiri. But, if we find you within the walls and aren't happy about your presence, we usually get upset. Essentially, yeah, you can teleport into Kiri. But if we find you, don't get upset if we attack first and ask questions later.

I am in the clan and can see the village board. My sight to your duties is pretty solid, you have none.  Even if you did it takes you one day to do this every two weeks. That's it.

Once again the link; http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7870.0.html

The village teleportation via kamui is allowed by most, just they usually have a way to detect you even if you use it.

Our village board is literally a constant OOC party. You haven't any sight at all as to what my duties are, because most of what I am referring to is behind the scenes actions that work in subtlety.

You aren't the correct authority to be telling me whether or not I have duties within Kirigakure; that would be the current Mizukage, Xiarawst. We could certainly ask him.

Sorry, I didn't see the first time you posted the link.
I still don't see the context for the reasoning behind why we should have to post outside our village. It is standalone within this list; there is no contextual discussion about it that I can find. Perhaps, as you are looking in the wrong places for my duties, I am looking in the wrong places for context.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 08:34:13 PM
"As far as you can tell."

It is quite apparent that how far you can tell as to my duties is not very far.
There are things going on in Kirigakure that require both Dart and myself to remain in the city for a little while. Just because you do not see things does not mean they are not happening.

Heck. It shouldn't be too hard to guess that Dart, Xia, and I have something going on within Kirigakure, especially with that scumbag on the loose again.

So, direct me to the context of the rule.


As far as auto-entering goes, I think Kiri unanimously accepts Kamui, or other methods, as a viable way to enter Kiri. But, if we find you within the walls and aren't happy about your presence, we usually get upset. Essentially, yeah, you can teleport into Kiri. But if we find you, don't get upset if we attack first and ask questions later.

I am in the clan and can see the village board. My sight to your duties is pretty solid, you have none.  Even if you did it takes you one day to do this every two weeks. That's it.

Once again the link; http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7870.0.html

The village teleportation via kamui is allowed by most, just they usually have a way to detect you even if you use it.

Our village board is literally a constant OOC party. You haven't any sight at all as to what my duties are, because most of what I am referring to is behind the scenes actions that work in subtlety.

You aren't the correct authority to be telling me whether or not I have duties within Kirigakure; that would be the current Mizukage, Xiarawst. We could certainly ask him.

Sorry, I didn't see the first time you posted the link.
I still don't see the context for the reasoning behind why we should have to post outside our village. It is standalone within this list; there is no contextual discussion about it that I can find. Perhaps, as you are looking in the wrong places for my duties, I am looking in the wrong places for context.

I'm not telling you if you have any, just looks like you don't. Anywho, trashing that.

Setting aside the fact of rping in your own village, you don't even do that. So even if you could slide by and rp in your own village you still wouldn't be following correct rules until as of yesterday with that one liner. The point of having you rp outside the village has been said. So we wouldn't have to wage a full scale attack just to get to you. You claim to be a protector of your village yet when we add in a rule to make you rp away from your village instead of for it, you are utterly against it.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Eric on May 03, 2014, 08:38:07 PM



Our village board is literally a constant OOC party. You haven't any sight at all as to what my duties are, because most of what I am referring to is behind the scenes actions that work in subtlety.

You aren't the correct authority to be telling me whether or not I have duties within Kirigakure; that would be the current Mizukage, Xiarawst. We could certainly ask him.

Sorry, I didn't see the first time you posted the link.
I still don't see the context for the reasoning behind why we should have to post outside our village. It is standalone within this list; there is no contextual discussion about it that I can find. Perhaps, as you are looking in the wrong places for my duties, I am looking in the wrong places for context.

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7846.135.html

Reply 121 to about 142. especially 142, which sums of my own argument for this in the context that we originally discussed it.

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7870.30.html

Reply 40 to about 44, once again, especially 44, which again sums up my reasoning during the context of the conversation.

And in regards to that, if it is not public knowledge, then, as far as the rule is concerned, it is not valid consideration for activity. If you could just post in dwellings (or claim to do so) and call it even, then the rule would be pointless.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 08:39:22 PM



Our village board is literally a constant OOC party. You haven't any sight at all as to what my duties are, because most of what I am referring to is behind the scenes actions that work in subtlety.

You aren't the correct authority to be telling me whether or not I have duties within Kirigakure; that would be the current Mizukage, Xiarawst. We could certainly ask him.

Sorry, I didn't see the first time you posted the link.
I still don't see the context for the reasoning behind why we should have to post outside our village. It is standalone within this list; there is no contextual discussion about it that I can find. Perhaps, as you are looking in the wrong places for my duties, I am looking in the wrong places for context.

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7846.135.html

Reply 121 to about 142. especially 142, which sums of my own argument for this in the context that we originally discussed it.

http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,7870.30.html

Reply 40 to about 44, once again, especially 44, which again sums up my reasoning during the context of the conversation.

And in regards to that, if it is not public knowledge, then, as far as the rule is concerned, it is not valid consideration for activity. If you could just post in dwellings (or claim to do so) and call it even, then the rule would be pointless.

Eric our archiver of the forums ^

Thank you sir.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Isaribi on May 03, 2014, 08:45:17 PM
I do RP within my village. Currently, I am only having one-liners because I am actually waiting on Dart and co. to finish because he and I are supposed to be working on something. << Well more than two weeks ago, Xiarawst and I gave him an order to investigate something, and he is still working on it.

In my character's RP, I am in Kirigakure and haven't any logical reason to leave. It wouldn't occur to me as being a danger to Kiri, it would appear as if I were protecting by being present. Further, there are duties which as a higher-up of Kirigakure I have to do every so often.


Ohh. Yeah.. I do a lot of RP in dwellings. That's why I'm so thrown off. It hadn't occurred to me.

For the sake of argument, Dart and I will post outside of Kirigakure once he is done with his RP in Kiri. After such, I'll look into the context of this rule more and try and compose some thoughts.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 08:48:00 PM
I do RP within my village. Currently, I am only having one-liners because I am actually waiting on Dart and co. to finish because he and I are supposed to be working on something. << Well more than two weeks ago, Xiarawst and I gave him an order to investigate something, and he is still working on it.

In my character's RP, I am in Kirigakure and haven't any logical reason to leave. It wouldn't occur to me as being a danger to Kiri, it would appear as if I were protecting by being present. Further, there are duties which as a higher-up of Kirigakure I have to do every so often.


Ohh. Yeah.. I do a lot of RP in dwellings. That's why I'm so thrown off. It hadn't occurred to me.

For the sake of argument, Dart and I will post outside of Kirigakure once he is done with his RP in Kiri. After such, I'll look into the context of this rule more and try and compose some thoughts.

As you wait you can take one day to post in zone 2. I'm sure his rp will take a few more days to complete.
Just take a walk that's it. Take 100 anbu with you. Once again we don't care as long as you follow the rules.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Isaribi on May 03, 2014, 08:52:23 PM
I do RP within my village. Currently, I am only having one-liners because I am actually waiting on Dart and co. to finish because he and I are supposed to be working on something. << Well more than two weeks ago, Xiarawst and I gave him an order to investigate something, and he is still working on it.

In my character's RP, I am in Kirigakure and haven't any logical reason to leave. It wouldn't occur to me as being a danger to Kiri, it would appear as if I were protecting by being present. Further, there are duties which as a higher-up of Kirigakure I have to do every so often.


Ohh. Yeah.. I do a lot of RP in dwellings. That's why I'm so thrown off. It hadn't occurred to me.

For the sake of argument, Dart and I will post outside of Kirigakure once he is done with his RP in Kiri. After such, I'll look into the context of this rule more and try and compose some thoughts.

As you wait you can take one day to post in zone 2. I'm sure his rp will take a few more days to complete.
Just take a walk that's it. Take 100 anbu with you. Once again we don't care as long as you follow the rules.

You are really persistent on getting me out of Kirigakure, sir.
I've told you what I'm going to do; Dart's RP is going to be done soon. I don't have a reason to just go on a random walk; it isn't how I am. This is a nice compromise, especially since after such RP I fully intend on arguing against this rule.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Bocchiere on May 03, 2014, 08:53:55 PM
I already explained how it would be very easy to make the bijuu unobtainable otherwise.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Ѕhadow on May 03, 2014, 08:54:18 PM
I do RP within my village. Currently, I am only having one-liners because I am actually waiting on Dart and co. to finish because he and I are supposed to be working on something. << Well more than two weeks ago, Xiarawst and I gave him an order to investigate something, and he is still working on it.

In my character's RP, I am in Kirigakure and haven't any logical reason to leave. It wouldn't occur to me as being a danger to Kiri, it would appear as if I were protecting by being present. Further, there are duties which as a higher-up of Kirigakure I have to do every so often.


Ohh. Yeah.. I do a lot of RP in dwellings. That's why I'm so thrown off. It hadn't occurred to me.

For the sake of argument, Dart and I will post outside of Kirigakure once he is done with his RP in Kiri. After such, I'll look into the context of this rule more and try and compose some thoughts.

As you wait you can take one day to post in zone 2. I'm sure his rp will take a few more days to complete.
Just take a walk that's it. Take 100 anbu with you. Once again we don't care as long as you follow the rules.

You are really persistent on getting me out of Kirigakure, sir.
I've told you what I'm going to do; Dart's RP is going to be done soon. I don't have a reason to just go on a random walk; it isn't how I am. This is a nice compromise, especially since after such RP I fully intend on arguing against this rule.

I'm persistent on getting you all to follow a rule that no one until now took the risk of being looked down upon to enforce it.

As long as it doesn't take more days than you claim to have it done in, I'm fine with it.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Eric on May 03, 2014, 08:55:46 PM

Eric our archiver of the forums ^

Thank you sir.

Thank you for the compliment. I thought I had sent a PM, but sent box says nada, so I'll just thank you here.


 ...I don't have a reason to just go on a random walk; it isn't how I am...

Make one up then.  :D
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Old Man Xia on May 04, 2014, 04:51:01 PM

Eric our archiver of the forums ^

Thank you sir.

Thank you for the compliment. I thought I had sent a PM, but sent box says nada, so I'll just thank you here.


 ...I don't have a reason to just go on a random walk; it isn't how I am...

Make one up then.  :D

There should be no need to make one up because we have no need. If we are active, then we shouldn't have to 'post' where others want us to.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Angra Mainyu on May 04, 2014, 04:54:08 PM
I don't have a reason to just go on a random walk; it isn't how I am.
Try ocean fishing.
Title: Re: The lazy Jinchūriki of sl
Post by: Eric on May 04, 2014, 06:26:44 PM

Eric our archiver of the forums ^

Thank you sir.

Thank you for the compliment. I thought I had sent a PM, but sent box says nada, so I'll just thank you here.


 ...I don't have a reason to just go on a random walk; it isn't how I am...

Make one up then.  :D

There should be no need to make one up because we have no need. If we are active, then we shouldn't have to 'post' where others want us to.

As a jinchūriki, your freedom to RP is a little different than the regular crop. Unless you get the rules changed or leave the life of biju holding behind, then you should have to abide by the rules and post in a public location outside of your home village.