Shinobi Legends Forum
Game Development => Feature Requests => Topic started by: orochimarusnextbody on October 14, 2007, 05:23:11 PM
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now as i said in title i know its been discussed before but those are locked and i wanna put in my oppinion about them
1. they shouldnt be given as a good or bad thing.
2.i heard neji might be putting them as a kekki genkai (sorry i spelled it wrong) i dont believe they should be because although its powerful it isnt a kekki genkai.it shouldnt be somethign you get threw a random event (i cant say much because of spoilers and what not) so neji to discuss this more send me a message ide liek to talk to you on this matter
3. weve seen what they can do in the show, they kick major but so its no doubt that getting it should be very hard and the consiquences showed be very drastic. ide say the consiquences but as i said its sort of a spoiler kinda thing so i ahve to talk to neji.
all im saying is they shouldnt be treated as a kekki genkai and it should be somethign threw a random event that has drastic consiquences and very hard to get. neji ide like to talk to you on this mater along with other things.
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i dont believe its being treated a s a kekkei genkai...
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ask neji if it is..actually..idk...he might not tell u
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i heard it was or at leats thats what i read, i think it should be in some huge long special event like we only saw him open 5 so you can get the event but a it be had to get and each time you get one you wait a while then you get the next and so on but at the cost of hp or something yea know like mayeb after its done (if your not dead) then your attack and defence are like -100 or something
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Wait and see it Neji has experience in these things so put a little faith in him...-100 attack? my attack would be like 1 then and for acads theyd have - attacks... :o
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Neji makes this a kekkei genkai.
Like Kakashi mentioned about Lee when he got to the 4th Gate "that is not something that can be done with training alone, he must be some kind of genius" ...
and a constant work, for *years* since being little is what you need, I say it is the same like being born with an extraordinary ability you have to train constantly alike.
Also, for balance purposes, it's about right.
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as much as that may be true rock lee works hard for it he dide the first 5 threw shear power. he wasnt born with it he worked hard for it and gai taught him. ya know?
and about the -100 atatck person (sorry lol) well he couldnt move he couldnt do anything lol.
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Yeah, but also, not all can open the 8 gates
it is something, that a genius can do
and with a lot of trainig, Like Lee, he is training since he was acad.
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if you open all gates, you die.
:D
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if you open all gates, you die.
:D
But you can Resurect XD
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Neji makes this a kekkei genkai.
I don't think the eight gate manipulation is a kekkei genkai, but I think Neji knows this.
Also, for balance purposes, it's about right.
Similar? Sure in power, but it isn't something you are born with.
Like Kakashi mentioned about Lee when he got to the 4th Gate "that is not something that can be done with training alone, he must be some kind of genius" ...
and a constant work, for *years* since being little is what you need, I say it is the same like being born with an extraordinary ability you have to train constantly alike.
When Kakashi said that, I think he was just complimenting Lee since Lee is a "dropout".
Being a genius doesn't mean one has kekkei genkai, but that they have talent.
Like Orochimaru or Minato.
I don't think they had kekkei genkai, but are considered geniuses.
Since the eight gates are so powerful and require years of training, You want to group this with a loose definition of kekkei genkai?
I'd rather see the eight gates done in a similar fashion as rasengan because it is something most people can train for.
Or this should be grouped with jutsus like puppets, shadow bind, chakra bugs, etc.
Unless those are being grouped along with kekkei genkai?
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if you open all gates, you die.
:D
Just die, it is not enough, also lose something else a def point or something else :twisted:
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*coughs*
We've only seen the gates opened up to six.
We can find out releasing what limiters increases what, but we haven't seen the eight gates in action much.
What I mean is Neji can figure out what happens to our stats when opening how many gates, but I don't think there will be many techniques to go along with the eight gates.
We have the two lotuses and the Morning Peacock.
The eight gates isn't complete.
I guess Neji could always update it?
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Neji can.
But also, years of training, right, BUT ... I see Sharingan boobies with Hachimon Tonkou, and then ... well... how can you train your Sharingan AND your ability for the gates? Due to strategic reasons, and sanity ones, it can't work together...
Also, the price is higher than just to *work* for it =)
TenTen's stuff, i.e., can be done with work, no big deal. But for Lee, it is much much more work involved. No time for anything else, not even jutsus...
and don't get me wrong about kekkei genkai... it's not "push button" -> "ok, open up all gates now...."
you HAVE to train for them still ;)
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Neji can.
But also, years of training, right, BUT ... I see Sharingan boobies with Hachimon Tonkou, and then ... well... how can you train your Sharingan AND your ability for the gates? Due to strategic reasons, and sanity ones, it can't work together...
Also, the price is higher than just to *work* for it =)
TenTen's stuff, i.e., can be done with work, no big deal. But for Lee, it is much much more work involved. No time for anything else, not even jutsus...
and don't get me wrong about kekkei genkai... it's not "push button" -> "ok, open up all gates now...."
you HAVE to train for them still ;)
Ehum.. sorry but... Sharingan Boobies? O_O;;;;;,;;;;;;;;
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Neji can.
But also, years of training, right, BUT ... I see Sharingan boobies with Hachimon Tonkou, and then ... well... how can you train your Sharingan AND your ability for the gates? Due to strategic reasons, and sanity ones, it can't work together...
Also, the price is higher than just to *work* for it =)
TenTen's stuff, i.e., can be done with work, no big deal. But for Lee, it is much much more work involved. No time for anything else, not even jutsus...
and don't get me wrong about kekkei genkai... it's not "push button" -> "ok, open up all gates now...."
you HAVE to train for them still ;)
Ehum.. sorry but... Sharingan Boobies? O_O;;;;;,;;;;;;;;
I will get byakugan.
To see through *coughwomen'scough* colthing. <<;
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Neji can.
But also, years of training, right, BUT ... I see Sharingan boobies with Hachimon Tonkou, and then ... well... how can you train your Sharingan AND your ability for the gates? Due to strategic reasons, and sanity ones, it can't work together...
Also, the price is higher than just to *work* for it =)
TenTen's stuff, i.e., can be done with work, no big deal. But for Lee, it is much much more work involved. No time for anything else, not even jutsus...
and don't get me wrong about kekkei genkai... it's not "push button" -> "ok, open up all gates now...."
you HAVE to train for them still ;)
Ehum.. sorry but... Sharingan Boobies? O_O;;;;;,;;;;;;;;
I will get byakugan.
To see through *coughwomen'scough* colthing. <<;
<_< Ima.. Keep away from you. >>
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please dont get off topic
now see rock lee was taught the gates after he became a ninja so it couldnt have been YEARS 2 at most. and about the genius orochimaru/shikimaru are geniuses but no kekkai genkai and what genius is rock lee genius of HARD WORK meaning he works hard alot!... see i think it should be liek rasengan or something you ahve to work for it and not consider it a kekkai genkai
and Mihazi made some good points it isnt something your born with. everything he said brings up valid points. neji i agree with alot of the stuff oyu do but treating the gates as a kekkai genkai is just wrong
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This is an interesting topic.....Well, I guess the best way to put it is that people in general understand that technically according to the anime and manga the Opening of the 8 Gates isn’t a Kekkei Genkai. However, in this game it will be classified as a Kekkei Genkai:
1) It is obvious that it takes hard work to accomplish the task of opening the 8 gates. Learning it at any specified level isn’t possible. For example, Sasuke’s body had a hard enough time copying Lee’s taijutsu, and that was with the help of his sharingan.
2) The reason for having it as a kekkei genkai is because Rock Lee truly began learning how to do the technique at a young age. He was still an academy student (and considered an academy student with no skills, henceforth the label dropout) when Guy/Gai met him. Lee wasn’t his student or on Guy’s team during that time. However they both had a connection and it is obvious that he trained with Guy from that point forward. It’s no surprise that he was placed in Guy’s Team. The training he did with Guy during his academy days, were the foundation of his learning how to open the eight gates. Neji and Tenten’s bodies could not handle the rigorous training that Guy put them through, but because Lee had worked with Guy as an academy student before officially being on Team Guy he was not only handling Guy’s initial training with Neji and Tenten but also was learning more techniques (The Lotus and the Opening of 8 Gates) while his teammates where going home from a hard day of training.
3) Because his true foundation of learning this technique was during his academy years, it’s only feasible to classify it to where a person has to obtain the foundations of the technique as an academy student. The only way we start over in the game is through kekkei genkai.
4) With this technique being a kekkei genkai, in the truest sense we are stripping away everything (Genjutsu and Ninjutsu) and concentrating on only Taijutsu like Lee and Guy.
Did Guy teach Lee the Opening of the 8th Gates? Of course, no one can question that; however it wasn't something that could just be learned by Rock Lee at any point of time. Because of his earlier training with Guy, as an academy student and up, Guy knew that for the most part Lee's body could take the rigorous effects of the technique.
"You can't teach an old dog new tricks." Kids are able to learn new languages and techniques at a young age much easier than an adult. Because adults are content in doing things their own way and don't desire change."
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Neji can.
But also, years of training, right, BUT ... I see Sharingan boobies with Hachimon Tonkou, and then ... well... how can you train your Sharingan AND your ability for the gates? Due to strategic reasons, and sanity ones, it can't work together...
Also, the price is higher than just to *work* for it =)
TenTen's stuff, i.e., can be done with work, no big deal. But for Lee, it is much much more work involved. No time for anything else, not even jutsus...
and don't get me wrong about kekkei genkai... it's not "push button" -> "ok, open up all gates now...."
you HAVE to train for them still ;)
Ehum.. sorry but... Sharingan Boobies? O_O;;;;;,;;;;;;;;
I will get byakugan.
To see through *coughwomen'scough* colthing. <<;
<_< Ima.. Keep away from you. >>
*will do they pervy wheelchair man thing*
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Neji can.
But also, years of training, right, BUT ... I see Sharingan boobies with Hachimon Tonkou, and then ... well... how can you train your Sharingan AND your ability for the gates? Due to strategic reasons, and sanity ones, it can't work together...
Also, the price is higher than just to *work* for it =)
TenTen's stuff, i.e., can be done with work, no big deal. But for Lee, it is much much more work involved. No time for anything else, not even jutsus...
and don't get me wrong about kekkei genkai... it's not "push button" -> "ok, open up all gates now...."
you HAVE to train for them still ;)
Ehum.. sorry but... Sharingan Boobies? O_O;;;;;,;;;;;;;;
I will get byakugan.
To see through *coughwomen'scough* colthing. <<;
<_< Ima.. Keep away from you. >>
*coughs*
I will be able to see you within a 800 meter radius. You won't even know I'm checking you out.
Better get some kind of restraining order. <<
How to open the gates is not known...is it?
What does Lee and Gai have? Lots of stamina...maybe that is the key?
I think if you train hard enough, you can learn it.
You don't have to be young, but the eight gates could be easier to learn at a young age.
Speculation.
I think there needs to be a broader catergory than just "Kekkei Genkai". I think that's where the confusion is.
Things that are at the same level as kekkei genaki are treated like kekkei genkai.
Just technicalities.
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I agree with Shikamaru. We don't know when Guy learned the technique, but we do know that Lee trained with Guy at a young age (academy student). If it was just purely training hard then Shikamaru or Neji would be able to do it, since they are both geniuses and are able to figure out things quickly. The real key is that his body is able to take the stress, in order to get your body to take that kind of punishment you need to start back at square one (academy student). It should be a kekkei genkai.
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I agree with Shikamaru. We don't know when Guy learned the technique, but we do know that Lee trained with Guy at a young age (academy student). If it was just purely training hard then Shikamaru or Neji would be able to do it, since they are both geniuses and are able to figure out things quickly. The real key is that his body is able to take the stress, in order to get your body to take that kind of punishment you need to start back at square one (academy student). It should be a kekkei genkai.
Maybe some forget that Kakashi can open at least the first gate.
We don't know when Kakashi learned that either.
I think the reason why Lee and Gai are the main ones straightforwardly using the inner gates is because it helps taijutsu users.
It makes Lee and Gai more special as well because they are the main ones seen using it.
I don't think you 'need' to start at acad to get into shape. I don't know how to play piano, but I could try now.
Maybe it would've of been better to start earlier like Lee did with the eight gates.
Kakashi was surprised that Lee could open the gates. Lee is young, I don't think it is expected for young people to learn how to open the gates.
Maybe that is why Kakashi called Lee a genius?
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I understand your point with the piano Mihazi, but if you learned how to play the piano now compared to a person who has been playing it as a child. There would be a difference, even if the newer person strikes all the right keys, the texture of the music would be different because one person is learning on the fly while the other is a prodigy or should I say a natural because of their work as a child.
If a person is to learn it as Kage they would only be able to learn only so many gates. As an academy student you have the time and youth to eventually learn all of it and perhaps add something to the technique in the future.
Techniques are meant to be passed down to the younger generation so that they can protect the village.
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Well it takes 1 gate to use Secondary Lotus and kakashi uses that once in shippuden.
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Neji can.
But also, years of training, right, BUT ... I see Sharingan boobies with Hachimon Tonkou, and then ... well... how can you train your Sharingan AND your ability for the gates? Due to strategic reasons, and sanity ones, it can't work together...
Also, the price is higher than just to *work* for it =)
TenTen's stuff, i.e., can be done with work, no big deal. But for Lee, it is much much more work involved. No time for anything else, not even jutsus...
and don't get me wrong about kekkei genkai... it's not "push button" -> "ok, open up all gates now...."
you HAVE to train for them still ;)
Ehum.. sorry but... Sharingan Boobies? O_O;;;;;,;;;;;;;;
I will get byakugan.
To see through *coughwomen'scough* colthing. <<;
<_< Ima.. Keep away from you. >>
*will do they pervy wheelchair man thing*
O_O;:
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Neji can.
But also, years of training, right, BUT ... I see Sharingan boobies with Hachimon Tonkou, and then ... well... how can you train your Sharingan AND your ability for the gates? Due to strategic reasons, and sanity ones, it can't work together...
Also, the price is higher than just to *work* for it =)
TenTen's stuff, i.e., can be done with work, no big deal. But for Lee, it is much much more work involved. No time for anything else, not even jutsus...
and don't get me wrong about kekkei genkai... it's not "push button" -> "ok, open up all gates now...."
you HAVE to train for them still ;)
Ehum.. sorry but... Sharingan Boobies? O_O;;;;;,;;;;;;;;
I will get byakugan.
To see through *coughwomen'scough* colthing. <<;
<_< Ima.. Keep away from you. >>
*will do they pervy wheelchair man thing*
O_O;:
pervy wheelchair guy was cool... and so was the bath scene
... and sharingan boobies are red with a black... I guss? >.>
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Neji can.
But also, years of training, right, BUT ... I see Sharingan boobies with Hachimon Tonkou, and then ... well... how can you train your Sharingan AND your ability for the gates? Due to strategic reasons, and sanity ones, it can't work together...
Also, the price is higher than just to *work* for it =)
TenTen's stuff, i.e., can be done with work, no big deal. But for Lee, it is much much more work involved. No time for anything else, not even jutsus...
and don't get me wrong about kekkei genkai... it's not "push button" -> "ok, open up all gates now...."
you HAVE to train for them still ;)
Ehum.. sorry but... Sharingan Boobies? O_O;;;;;,;;;;;;;;
I will get byakugan.
To see through *coughwomen'scough* colthing. <<;
<_< Ima.. Keep away from you. >>
*will do they pervy wheelchair man thing*
O_O;:
pervy wheelchair guy was cool... and so was the bath scene
... and sharingan boobies are red with a black... I guss? >.>
<_<:;
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OK PEOPLE STOP GETTING OFF TOPIC!!!!! IDE LIKE THIS TO STAY OPEN SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT GEEZE
no actually lee didnt meet guy at the academy days, they showed guy watch lee train. guy started trainign after lee got his headband so as i said it had only been 2 years. although lee has been physicly training himself he couldnt have started training for the gates until he was a genin. and another reason lee can do it is because of his iron will and shinobi way. so i dont see it as a kekkai genkai. i really dont. i dont see why (besides the fact that its powerful) neji would make it a kekkai genkai. if were gonna make it buy the show it should be some event like this:
you run into guy and he asks if you believe in the spring time of youth?
yes or no
no = he walks away mummbling something about sassyness
yes = he asks if you wanna learn a secret technique
yes or no
(and maybe only for taijutsu users)-putting a jutsu type on it (kinda like alignments lol)
neji after that could chose what will happen since hes the genius here. ive stated my points ive said why i think it shoudl be a thing you can learn and not a kekkai genkai. but shikimaru you do bring up valid points and ide like to continue to if this doesnt get shut down for peopel getting off topic
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OK PEOPLE STOP GETTING OFF TOPIC!!!!! IDE LIKE THIS TO STAY OPEN SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT GEEZE
no actually lee didnt meet guy at the academy days, they showed guy watch lee train. guy started trainign after lee got his headband so as i said it had only been 2 years. although lee has been physicly training himself he couldnt have started training for the gates until he was a genin. and another reason lee can do it is because of his iron will and shinobi way. so i dont see it as a kekkai genkai. i really dont. i dont see why (besides the fact that its powerful) neji would make it a kekkai genkai. if were gonna make it buy the show it should be some event like this:
you run into guy and he asks if you believe in the spring time of youth?
yes or no
no = he walks away mummbling something about sassyness
yes = he asks if you wanna learn a secret technique
yes or no
(and maybe only for taijutsu users)-putting a jutsu type on it (kinda like alignments lol)
neji after that could chose what will happen since hes the genius here. ive stated my points ive said why i think it shoudl be a thing you can learn and not a kekkai genkai. but shikimaru you do bring up valid points and ide like to continue to if this doesnt get shut down for peopel getting off topic
I'm almost positive that Gai would not ask a random person if they want to learn a Forbidden technique. :roll:
Note that it is a Secret Technique, so Neji's general idea seems to be the set one. At the very least, he could have the description somewhere around:
"While not exactly a Kekkei Genkai, this technique is extremely difficult to master. Only the most skilled Shinobi can utilize it."
That's just the way it is. >_>
Edit: I meant at the very most, not least. :oops:
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yea but i was jsut coming up with soem ideas i didnt say i mastered it lol just giving some sort of example.
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Orochimaru makes great points for the 8 Gates to not be a kekkei genkai, but I still believe it should and will be a kekkei genkai in SL.
i) The extreme power of the 8 Gates is right on par with the kekkei genkai.
ii.) In order to obtain the knowledge and implement the Opening of the 8 Gates, one would need to give up a great deal. In this game one would have to give up all their gems, all their dwellings (houses/cityhouses/castles), mount, easiness of getting DK's at will, and all the glory of being a powerful shinobi. By giving up all of these things, a new chapter and new beginning starts. I believe that anyone would agree that if they are going to give up all of these precious and hard earned items(Yes, much hard work had to be put in, consider this hard work half of the requirement of hard work that Rock Lee does), that they should be granted the chance to learn something that others can not. The beginning is the choice of possibly learning the 8 Gates or a kekkei genkai.
In a nutshell, many people have worked hard to keep their account current and active, but even fewer people have gone the extra mile to get DK's at will, and become the strongest at a given rank. I believe that when a person is willing to give up all that he/she has worked so hard for they deserve the opportunity to set themselves apart from the others and acquire power equal of the kekkei genkai (The 8 Gates) or acquiring the actual kekkei genkai. ;)
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Orochimaru makes great points for the 8 Gates to not be a kekkei genkai, but I still believe it should and will be a kekkei genkai in SL.
i) The extreme power of the 8 Gates is right on par with the kekkei genkai.
ii.) In order to obtain the knowledge and implement the Opening of the 8 Gates, one would need to give up a great deal. In this game one would have to give up all their gems, all their dwellings (houses/cityhouses/castles), mount, easiness of getting DK's at will, and all the glory of being a powerful shinobi. By giving up all of these things, a new chapter and new beginning starts. I believe that anyone would agree that if they are going to give up all of these precious and hard earned items(Yes, much hard work had to be put in, consider this hard work half of the requirement of hard work that Rock Lee does), that they should be granted the chance to learn something that others can not. The beginning is the choice of possibly learning the 8 Gates or a kekkei genkai.
In a nutshell, many people have worked hard to keep their account current and active, but even fewer people have gone the extra mile to get DK's at will, and become the strongest at a given rank. I believe that when a person is willing to give up all that he/she has worked so hard for they deserve the opportunity to set themselves apart from the others and acquire power equal of the kekkei genkai (The 8 Gates) or acquiring the actual kekkei genkai. ;)
Well I'm not giving up my specilities (my ability to do anything but Taijustu) for good!
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I get the point that Skika is making. I mean the power of the 8 gates is something equal to the kekkei genkai. If you want to learn it you would need to give up everything (everything would be equal to the hard work Lee put in to do the 8 gates). So the kekkei genkai is something you are born with. The 8 gates is a testament of hard work. To acquire either one you would have to give up everything. It makes sense.
Those that want to keep there current power shouldn't complain about being bored. Your only other choice would be if there is a option for those people that what to kill Oro 24 times a day and be seen as superior, but those peeps are just cowardly :cry: because they fear starting over and losing all their so called uber strength power and dks. :cry:
To bad get over it :twisted:
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I get the point that Skika is making. I mean the power of the 8 gates is something equal to the kekkei genkai. If you want to learn it you would need to give up everything (everything would be equal to the hard work Lee put in to do the 8 gates). So the kekkei genkai is something you are born with. The 8 gates is a testament of hard work. To acquire either one you would have to give up everything. It makes sense.
Those that want to keep there current power shouldn't complain about being bored. Your only other choice would be if there is a option for those people that what to kill Oro 24 times a day and be seen as superior, but those peeps are just cowardly :cry: because they fear starting over and losing all their so called uber strength power and dks. :cry:
To bad get over it :twisted:
Imagine how powerful Neji would make those things to balance out the loss...
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Orochimaru makes great points for the 8 Gates to not be a kekkei genkai, but I still believe it should and will be a kekkei genkai in SL.
i) The extreme power of the 8 Gates is right on par with the kekkei genkai.
ii.) In order to obtain the knowledge and implement the Opening of the 8 Gates, one would need to give up a great deal. In this game one would have to give up all their gems, all their dwellings (houses/cityhouses/castles), mount, easiness of getting DK's at will, and all the glory of being a powerful shinobi. By giving up all of these things, a new chapter and new beginning starts. I believe that anyone would agree that if they are going to give up all of these precious and hard earned items(Yes, much hard work had to be put in, consider this hard work half of the requirement of hard work that Rock Lee does), that they should be granted the chance to learn something that others can not. The beginning is the choice of possibly learning the 8 Gates or a kekkei genkai.
In a nutshell, many people have worked hard to keep their account current and active, but even fewer people have gone the extra mile to get DK's at will, and become the strongest at a given rank. I believe that when a person is willing to give up all that he/she has worked so hard for they deserve the opportunity to set themselves apart from the others and acquire power equal of the kekkei genkai (The 8 Gates) or acquiring the actual kekkei genkai. ;)
i see what you mean but still its jsut not my thing liek soemwhere neji said he made the resangan so where genin can get it also because he wanted it to be liek the show. if thats the case (to make it show wise) then the gates should be something like the show where its not considered a kekkai genkai. like maybe neji can make the kekkai genkai and then make something similiar to that event or something to get the gates. i dont know things like that bother me for instance the sound ninjas fighting oro boths me. but whatever (people dont get off topic because of that i was using it as an example) and this bothers me also. but i really cant do much cause its all in nejis hand. im just stating my oppinion.
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I get the point that Skika is making. I mean the power of the 8 gates is something equal to the kekkei genkai. If you want to learn it you would need to give up everything (everything would be equal to the hard work Lee put in to do the 8 gates). So the kekkei genkai is something you are born with. The 8 gates is a testament of hard work. To acquire either one you would have to give up everything. It makes sense.
Those that want to keep there current power shouldn't complain about being bored. Your only other choice would be if there is a option for those people that what to kill Oro 24 times a day and be seen as superior, but those peeps are just cowardly :cry: because they fear starting over and losing all their so called uber strength power and dks. :cry:
To bad get over it :twisted:
Imagine how powerful Neji would make those things to balance out the loss...
I know what you mean. The kekkei genkai better be worth what I am able to give up.
I don't understand why I have to give up something like dks to learn the 8 gates.
I'll work hard now and learn it. Someone strong can't learn something to make them stronger?
Guess I should give up on rasengan because I'll have to start over as a academy student.
If I wanted the sharingan, I would go kill a Uchiha and rip his eyes out after I kill him.
Although I'll be unable to use it at full potential like Kakashi, but there is the body transfer technique.
Edit:
What takes someone a lifetime to learn may take me a month.
People don't learn at the same rate.
Fourth took 3 years to learn rasengan. Naruto took a few months.
SPOILER?
Naruto can use mass kage bushin to learn jutsus in days.
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I completely understand and agree with both of you for the most part (Mihazi and Orochimaru). If we were to follow the anime by the letter you would be absolutely right, but in this case we are deviating. I'm 100% sure that Neji will make the kekkei genkai along with the 8 Gates, worth the submission of the DK's along with other valuables. There will be plenty of new things in store for people after the submission process that will peak interest. However, as Neji stated before, giving up DK's is just part of the deal, you still have to continue to work diligently after the submission process to further your new skills and techniques. :D
I've seen other topics and I'm glad that all of us could discuss our points, disagreements and agreements in the right fashion without going off topic or being malicious. I wish all the topics could be discussed in this kind of manner. :roll:
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I completely understand and agree with both of you for the most part (Mihazi and Orochimaru). If we were to follow the anime by the letter you would be absolutely right, but in this case we are deviating. I'm 100% sure that Neji will make the kekkei genkai along with the 8 Gates, worth the submission of the DK's along with other valuables. There will be plenty of new things in store for people after the submission process that will peak interest. However, as Neji stated before, giving up DK's is just part of the deal, you still have to continue to work diligently after the submission process to further your new skills and techniques. :D
I've seen other topics and I'm glad that all of us could discuss our points, disagreements and agreements in the right fashion without going off topic or being malicious. I wish all the topics could be discussed in this kind of manner. :roll:
yea all i can do is really hope neji reads this and our points and will make a disition on what weve said not a desition because he already wants it to be like that. and yes i believe this is one of the topics that we kept open without getting too off task or anything like that. but neji read this and actually think about it. ive said my part im glad as shikimaru said to say the agreements disagreements and point of views. thank you and ill see what happens later
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Okay, this is set as kekkei genkai for gameplay purposes.
To balance the game and not create overpowered players.
Which is why you shoudn't be able to use both CS and SST.
Even though it goes against the manga.
I guess...
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Neji can.
But also, years of training, right, BUT ... I see Sharingan boobies with Hachimon Tonkou, and then ... well... how can you train your Sharingan AND your ability for the gates? Due to strategic reasons, and sanity ones, it can't work together...
Also, the price is higher than just to *work* for it =)
TenTen's stuff, i.e., can be done with work, no big deal. But for Lee, it is much much more work involved. No time for anything else, not even jutsus...
and don't get me wrong about kekkei genkai... it's not "push button" -> "ok, open up all gates now...."
you HAVE to train for them still ;)
Ehum.. sorry but... Sharingan Boobies? O_O;;;;;,;;;;;;;;
I will get byakugan.
To see through *coughwomen'scough* colthing. <<;
<_< Ima.. Keep away from you. >>
*will do they pervy wheelchair man thing*
O_O;:
pervy wheelchair guy was cool... and so was the bath scene
... and sharingan boobies are red with a black... I guss? >.>
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you guys are horrible talking about that kind of stuff i mean really its just not logicly possible when you think about it sharingan boobies >>