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Title: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Kage on October 26, 2015, 07:54:31 AM: I would like to purpose the renaming/restructuring of Jiseigakure to Amegakure. This is mainly because it seems like prime real estate for RP, and I feel that it's about time that it be introduced to the site as a village board after nine years of it being continually brought-up. And if I could site the numbers from the poll in the topic here (http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,8561.0.html), it can be shown that a minimum of 23 members of the community already fully support Amegakure becoming a village board. More are very much likely to cast their opinion for this.

Amegakure, the Industrialized Village of the Rain

A constant downpour of rain can be felt upon you, as you enter the village composed of iron and steel. All around you the inhabitants are wearing a cloak to shield them from the rain, and a constant chatter could be heard from the people around yourself. Steps of feet hitting upon water and steel can be heard all around you, which blends in with the sound of the rain hitting upon the metal buildings and pipes that compose the village. The entire area of the village is illuminated by lights from various shops and neon signs, making the village seem not so dark by the constantly cloudy climate, which give off various sparkles of lights at night.

A presence though can certainly be felt, as you feel watched by the eyes of the village's security hidden in the crowd and lurking behind steel buildings and structures. Conspiring or suspicious individuals have a tendency to suddenly disappear in this area.

(https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/AzureFlame_Kite/SL/Amegakure_zpso1mpfoa4.jpg)

The clock at the Ramen Shop reads [time].

You hear a villager say that today is [date].

Some would say that Jiseigakure is meant to be an area of neutrality for anybody to enter into and RP in. But really, it's not different from our OOC boards that we already have. Below is the RP and OOC board of Jiseigakure, copied and pasted as of this post's current date.

Quote from: RP
(21d1h) <沙> Wandering Asadi streaks!
(20d6h) <未来> Celestial Archer Shinkiro looking for more sparring partners to train for the upcoming Chuunin exam, who can also give advice/suggestions. o.o
(16d7h) Pie Sage SharinganpranksterShazno shrugs his shoulders, stripping down his clothes as he walks through "Welp, if ya can't beat 'em."
(16d) <沙> Wandering Asadi streaks!
(15d4h) <HT> Genin Mieko peeks at the streaker.
(14d22h) <沙> Wandering Asadi streaks after six hours!
(14d8h) <沙> Wandering Asadi streaks again! :D
(9d11h) <未来> Maura Echo wonders why the streaker streaks so much?
(9d10h) <HT> Genin Mieko wonders why the sky is blue, or why birds chirp, or why Donald Trump's hair is shaped like that? ...The world may never knwo.
(9d) <未来> LeAnne Rose agrees..
(8d11h) Pie Sage SharinganpranksterShazno looks at Mieko and declares "You're fired" squinting his eyes
(8d6h) <♪> Supernova Becquerel smiles. "HIs hair is shaped like a wave, because it represents the wave of change he will bring to the nation!" lol
(7d10h) <HT> Genin Mieko gives Bec all the awards.
(7d3h) <沙> Wandering Asadi was seen streaking while praising the one true god. "Praise be the Camel! May his blessings be felt upon your skin in the gentle breeze!"
(5d23h) <♪> Supernova Becquerel happily accepts any and all rewards.
(5d12h) <沙> Wandering Asadi streaks by and steals the awards for the Camel!
(4d14h) <霧隠> Misumi snips Asadi's manhood off, "There. Now you're PG."
(4d10h) <HT> Genin Mieko trips the streaker, whistling innocently.
(2d12h) <沙> Wandering Asadi 's beard was snipped off and he was tripped. ;-;
> (1d7h) <HT> Genin Mieko cackles then gives him an ice pack.
> (1d) <沙> Wandering Asadi puts the ice pack into a mug of freshly pour whiskey. "Thank you!"
> (16h41m) Academy Student Warhearth needs dp, please support this cause!
> (1h12m) <HT> Genin Mieko wonders what the Mercenary Camp is for anyway? O-O
> (7m39s) <沙> Wandering Asadi coughs. "Well, I can tell you that you can't pay them enough to streak with you." ;-;
> (3m18s) <HT> Genin Mieko pats the streaker's shoulder comfortingly.

Quote from: OOC
(36d11h) <HT> Genin Mieko cheers and throws her hands up in the air, running around. "GGGGGGOOOOOOAAAAALLLLLLLLLL!"
(36d10h) Lone Sage Shien hides the camrea!
(36d10h) Lone Sage Shien rectifies.
(36d10h) <HT> Genin Mieko pours chocolate syrup on him and his camera.
(36d10h) Lone Sage Shien Cries!!
(33d10h) <HT> Genin Mieko laughs maniacally before fleeing with a swish of the cape!
(24d2h) <HT> Genin Mieko has the absolute worst luck when it comes to that lady and her apples...
(23d10h) <Guard> 自殺 Ghost SkiiLove glides through again, filling the town with the curls of a cold fog.
(22d13h) <HT> Genin Mieko shudders as she dons on ten sweaters.
(21d1h) <沙> Wandering Asadi nommed a loogie? o-o;
(16d) <沙> Wandering Asadi streaks!
(14d21h) <沙> Wandering Asadi sniffles. ༼;´༎ຶ ۝ ༎ຶ༽
(14d10h) <HT> Genin Mieko hands him a tissue and a pair... >>
(14d8h) <沙> Wandering Asadi takes the pair of undies and wears them on his head. He's never seen such a strange thing before and thought it was a fancy hat. Also, he blew his nose and gave it back to Mieko... in her left ear. :D
(14d4h) <HT> Genin Mieko ...streaks!
(14d1h) <沙> Wandering Asadi gasps!
(11d12h) <未来> LeAnne Rose watches curiously
(10d6h) <HT> Genin Mieko streaks by Kiri!
(8d3h) <未来> LeAnne Rose blinks having been streaked by o.o;;
(7d10h) <HT> Genin Mieko laughs maniacally.
(6d13h) <未来> LeAnne Rose chuckles
(6d6h) <HT> Genin Mieko places a cape and mask on her sidekick!
(2d13h) <The> Validia ✲ Haru flails about
(2d12h) <沙> Wandering Asadi streaks again!
(2d2h) <沙> Wandering Asadi streaks!
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Becquerel on October 26, 2015, 07:56:05 AM: I'm up for anything that brings up more RP. Sure, I don't see what's wrong with it. I didn't think Jiseigakure really ever did anything anyway.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Ѕhadow on October 26, 2015, 07:57:41 AM: Well Nin Central is the buff capital. Perhaps move some shops to Uzushiogakure and divide 'em up.

Other than that I see no issue with it. It's not being used and with it being Amegakure at the LEAST some rp will be done if not a lot.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on October 26, 2015, 08:28:52 AM: sounds like a good idea to me. village alliance doesn't keep anyone from using the buff shops and such. That is all OOC perks of the game and nothing to do with RP. And it would negate the need to create new shops for Uzi and they are a ton in Jisei.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Warren on October 26, 2015, 02:21:59 PM: Jisei was always meant for random neutral nonsense, and its serving the purpose well, so I see no point in changing it.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Genesis on October 26, 2015, 05:03:52 PM: If Neji permits, I say we have another poll on if we want to keep Jis or have Ame. This is, of course, if Neji allows for it.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Mei on October 26, 2015, 07:30:20 PM: Quote from: Warren on October 26, 2015, 02:21:59 PM
Jisei was always meant for random neutral nonsense, and its serving the purpose well, so I see no point in changing it.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Keito Uzumaki on October 26, 2015, 09:58:29 PM: Quote from: Mei on October 26, 2015, 07:30:20 PM
Quote from: Warren on October 26, 2015, 02:21:59 PM
Jisei was always meant for random neutral nonsense, and its serving the purpose well, so I see no point in changing it.

I honestly liked the Ninja Central name, but given the naruto-series and what not it makes more sense to call that board such. In most mmorpgs though there is a central hub where all the noobs are safe from being pwned and what not as well as for opposing factions to meet together to kinda 'chillax' from most of the bickering and heated gameplay that goes on. With SL, Ninja Central or well Jisegakure is just that. Honestly I don't know how I'd feel with SL losing that xD Even if its filled with madness, it suits the need. Otherwise we'd see such in possibly Konoha or Kiri or Suna, but its safe to put such activity to Jise. Who knows? Maybe someone could seriously give Jisegakure a take over and get some active RP flowing, otherwise it still fits its central hub theme. Especially with a hall of fame, ichiraku's ramen and other shops.

If anything I would like to see maybe Amegakure vs Hoshigakure in which village does the site wish to see actively roaming in RP? YESSSS I've noticed the countless advocated for Hoshigakure but a contention could arise to see which village would the community wish to see more of? If Amegakure seems to take the popular vote over Hoshi we would see how our views stand and the same goes if Hoshigakure is voted to stay. Either way, that would seem like a more fair tradeoff than turning Jisegakure a land of neutrality and SL-ooc into Ame. Otherwise, whats to say that changing the name to Ame still won't stop the customs and norms that go on in Jisegakure(formerly Ninja Central)?
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Becquerel on October 26, 2015, 10:51:14 PM: Well, with the inclusion of OOC boards, is there any worth to having the 'randomness' in Jisei? It has both an RP and OOC board, and both seem to be used for OOC stuff :/ Just kind of redundant, I think.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on October 26, 2015, 10:57:44 PM: Regardless of what happens, I feel that something that impacts the whole SL site needs to be announced on the SL site, rather than just left to the opinions of those who come to the forum to decide. IF a vote is held, it should be announced upon the SL MoTD to inform people what is being proposed to impact them at large.

Honestly though, rather than lose Hoshi or Jisei, I would just as soon see another village board created to become Ame. Unless there is some finite number of village boards a LotGD can accommodate, then why not? If we truly are wanting more places to RP, then why delete anything just for a name change instead of adding a whole other place?
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Keito Uzumaki on October 26, 2015, 11:00:07 PM: I think we have enough boards as is really. My own reason for proposing Uzushiogakure was because there were two Otogakure boards and I didn't think that was much productive for the site. Otherwise, creating too many village boards can be a problem once there is a scarcity on activity, site-wise.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Becquerel on October 26, 2015, 11:08:50 PM: We had a huge influx of people when the AmeVUzu poll happened. Unfortunately, it didn't seem like many of them stayed here to join in these kind of conversations lol
Why not make a MotD that is kind of like an invitation to the users of SL? Basically, a 'you-choose' message to determine whether Jisei will change, Ame will just be added, or none of the above. (or other options that Neji might have)
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Snap on October 27, 2015, 01:01:54 AM: Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on October 26, 2015, 10:57:44 PM
Honestly though, rather than lose Hoshi or Jisei, I would just as soon see another village board created to become Ame. Unless there is some finite number of village boards a LotGD can accommodate, then why not? If we truly are wanting more places to RP, then why delete anything just for a name change instead of adding a whole other place?

I don't want to see another village board, 'cause that'll only result in me losing my travels and forest fights real quick. Maybe in the near-future, we can add another village, though, only if Neji will fix this entire travel points gimmick.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on October 27, 2015, 01:48:59 AM: Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on October 26, 2015, 10:57:44 PM
Regardless of what happens, I feel that something that impacts the whole SL site needs to be announced on the SL site, rather than just left to the opinions of those who come to the forum to decide. IF a vote is held, it should be announced upon the SL MoTD to inform people what is being proposed to impact them at large.

Honestly though, rather than lose Hoshi or Jisei, I would just as soon see another village board created to become Ame. Unless there is some finite number of village boards a LotGD can accommodate, then why not? If we truly are wanting more places to RP, then why delete anything just for a name change instead of adding a whole other place?

+1 for adding another board instead of swapping another one.

At the moment, it seems like these are the C&E's:
1) Change Jisei to Ame & lose a neutral city
- I don't mind this much just because the neutral city lost most of its appeal now that we have an OOC board internally of villages. Whether or not Ame now gets more traffic than Uzu shouldn't matter. Uzu was presented an opportunity and won it. Another opportunity is now presenting itself and Ame can easily obtain that one.
2) We rename Jisei to Ame & divide shops
- This is horrible to do considering how much Jisei has to offer to those of us who prefer to level/sit as opposed to RP'ing. Dividing villages will utterly kill our travel points and limit us greatly.
3) We create an Ame village & have virtually nothing but the basics in it
- Board literally becomes a place to post and has no appeal except that. Able to scribe to it would be cool as to no longer require to go there physically and kill travel points if you level. I don't think this should be made into a village you can be born in to as it limits itself as a village to have things such as ninja academies but nothing to benefit from it such as shops.
4) Keep Jisei & let Ame do what they've done before
- May seem "unfair" or whatever, but they lost a poll that could have gotten them a village and now they just gotta deal with not having one.

TL;DR, please don't mess up my shops, I like leveling and sitting infinitely more than all this "rp".
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Ѕhadow on October 27, 2015, 02:12:47 AM: Quote from: Raifudo, the Raifudo on October 27, 2015, 01:48:59 AM
Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on October 26, 2015, 10:57:44 PM
TL;DR, please don't mess up my shops, I like leveling and sitting infinitely more than all this "rp".

My main concern is also the shops. I do both rp and leveling though.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on October 27, 2015, 05:12:57 AM: Neji has to fix his quote system ASAP
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on October 27, 2015, 01:45:20 PM: Quote from: Raifudo, the Raifudo on October 27, 2015, 05:12:57 AM
Neji has to fix his quote system ASAP
There's nothing wrong with it. I just assumed people loved quoting themselves.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Mei on October 27, 2015, 02:20:26 PM: Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on October 27, 2015, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: Raifudo, the Raifudo on October 27, 2015, 05:12:57 AM
Neji has to fix his quote system ASAP
There's nothing wrong with it. I just assumed people loved quoting themselves.

No, I think Raifudo is referring to Shadow's previous post.
I believe Shadow forgot to take out a few lines because I don't know if you noticed, but you were quoted for something that Raifudo actually said.

I do agree that the quoting system needs to be improved upon.
I'm sure when we all want to quote someone, we just want that latest 'comment' that the person actually typed up, NOT all those quotes that were included prior to. >.>
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Eric on October 27, 2015, 03:18:25 PM: Quote from: Mei on October 27, 2015, 02:20:26 PM

No, I think Raifudo is referring to Shadow's previous post.
I believe Shadow forgot to take out a few lines because I don't know if you noticed, but you were quoted for something that Raifudo actually said.

I do agree that the quoting system needs to be improved upon.
I'm sure when we all want to quote someone, we just want that latest 'comment' that the person actually typed up, NOT all those quotes that were included prior to. >.>

You can always just erase it in your post making, though that can get rather tricky if you are not very forum savvy.

Jk, I know how it works. ;) You can always just erase those extra quotes with the almighty backspace. I agree with Kay, the system seem fine to me, it just seems that a joke was being made regarding improper use of it.

Trying to stay on topic though, I think it would be better to change Hoshigakure to Amegakure if we are going to keep on the village board changing. Jisiegakure is supposed to be a central, neutral place, and whether people uses it that way or not is irrevelent. If the kage were not in their own little worlds, then they would probably feel more compelled to meet together at some kind of Summit more often than once every blue moon.

And Hoshi is not exactly being used much more often than Jisigakure.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Warren on October 27, 2015, 05:33:39 PM: Except even hoshi has more purpose than ame now, and its going to see a further rise in it after I send out some dudes to establish relations and perhaps a mission or two with the main villages.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on October 27, 2015, 06:07:49 PM: Mei...you make me smile... The indentation indicates what Raifudo said...and the underline finishes that bit. while underneath that box are the lines that I have said...with my name at the header. SO while I quote Rai...and his words show with his name, my own comment is fixed at the bottom after his words. I shall color code, because I love that.

Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on Today at 01:45:20 pm
-->Quote from: Raifudo, the Raifudo on Today at 05:12:57 am
-->Neji has to fix his quote system ASAP
There's nothing wrong with it. I just assumed people loved quoting themselves.

I think that the desire to use Hoshi and get it going is a worth while one and it interests me. The potential for using Ame also interests me. I see no reason why this has to be an insult festival to one place over another, why we have to lose localities when we desire to have another be made public. It hurts no one to have a place where a few people are engaged in activity. We already have major villages where only a hand full of people are public. So what is the deal with a couple more? If it does not interest you, then there is no need to denigrate it or say it is worthless. Just be polite and do your own thing without trying to tear something that matters to another down.

I am seriously not interested in rudeness these days.

have you ever had an ant crawl into your ear? omg...I wanted to vomit.
I was out in the yard planting these spiky spruce shrub tree things last year. and i just felt this fluttering in my right ear and it was going to drive me insane. it felt like how when you get water in your ear and it drains out in little bits making huge drumming noises? like trilling your tongue fast.

SO i got a flashlight and stuck it on my ear and the damned thing crawled toward the light. thank god.

I think feuding here on the forum has become like that ant in my ear. I would rather die than go through it again.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Kage on October 27, 2015, 06:45:21 PM: I don't see why Hoshigakure has to be replaced. I thought Jiseigakure was more fit for needing replacing. And canonically, the land where Amegakure resides sits in the dead center of three out of five of the great shinobi nations. The travel system already somewhat works out with it's location and the amount of points needed to travel the distance to each village from Jisei/Ame.

(https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/AzureFlame_Kite/jiseiame_zps52apsgoe.jpg)

You guys also bring up that it's supposed to be a place of neutrality. But really, when's the last time somebody has actually legitimately RP'd there? Even Hoshigakure and the higher level zones get more RP action than Jiseigakure. If you want a neutral and central place where everybody can gather, then you should suggest a secondary The Gardens module that is re-skinned and renamed to something else. Maybe even request that the Forest get an RP/commentary area, since the wilderness is pretty much a free-for-all place.

An entirely new village board is an option, but it may be a lot more time-consuming to implement.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Warren on October 27, 2015, 07:12:26 PM: That map does bring to mind though, I'm pretty sure Hoshi is at the wrong place. To my understanding its at Bear Country, which is one of the 2-3 between Suna/Wind and Iwa/Earth.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Eric on October 27, 2015, 07:28:19 PM: Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on October 27, 2015, 06:07:49 PM

... SO i got a flashlight and stuck it on my ear and the damned thing crawled toward the light. thank god...

Not that I'm keen on getting water in my ear either, but don't you think that might would have gotten it out as well? though I will keep that flashlight idea in mind just in case I get one of those non-fiery critters in there...

Quote from: Kage on October 27, 2015, 06:45:21 PM

... You guys also bring up that it's supposed to be a place of neutrality. But really, when's the last time somebody has actually legitimately RP'd there...

When was the last time all (or even the standard big 6) of the SL world's leaders (village and/or clan) came together someplace for some reason? It's been months, perhaps even a year and some change now? The answer though is more likely than not the same; if the world's leaders don't meet in a neutral location, that neutral location is naturally going to be a little underused.

If you don't get an ant in your ear and you are not experiencing rolling blackouts, chances are, the flashlight is not going to get much use either. But that doesn't mean that you would get rid of the flashlight either.

Eventually the SL world's leaders are going to want to meet again, maybe to discuss RP matterss or just to dick around. I dunno. There are alternatives, but Ninja Central was supposed to be a race-free village (just in case another in-game war broke out) that was centrally located in the SL world (as alway accessible as Konoha, the former capital of the world).

And jut because there hasn't been an in-game war in a long time does not mean that there won't ever be one again; in-game rules are so much easier to comply with (did you PvP so and so and win? Ok then, you kill 'em, score one point) and practically the only way to really have a semi-drawn out war on this site between major powers.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on October 27, 2015, 09:26:38 PM: I guess you do not have a dog you have to walk at night...I use my flashlight all the time.

I kind of like the idea of the gardens thing that kage mentioned. NC being a board there. That is so very accessible without travel points.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Suishou Koji on October 27, 2015, 10:27:07 PM: I'd say just make another board instead of losing Hoshi or Nin Central. That way there is no arguing and SL gets to still keep Hoshi and the land of Neutrals.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Eric on October 27, 2015, 11:11:29 PM: Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on October 27, 2015, 09:26:38 PM
I guess you do not have a dog you have to walk at night...I use my flashlight all the time.

I kind of like the idea of the gardens thing that kage mentioned. NC being a board there. That is so very accessible without travel points.

I don't actually. Been awhile since I've had a dog actually. That's probably for the best though, for the dog's sake. The flashlight, like Jisie, does have other uses other than neutrality, those uses just aren't being used right now.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on October 28, 2015, 09:11:48 AM: call me slow but i just had my first dk after the Uzu village was implemented and I see it is not a birth village.

What a pain that will be for people who want to rp in uzu but have to travel to fight sensei in their birth village. Was i under the mistaken belief that the whole point was to have Uzu be a birth village?

If that is not the case, then truly, how hard will it be to just create an rp board and call it Ame?
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Mei on October 28, 2015, 01:16:29 PM: Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on October 28, 2015, 09:11:48 AM
call me slow but i just had my first dk after the Uzu village was implemented and I see it is not a birth village.

What a pain that will be for people who want to rp in uzu but have to travel to fight sensei in their birth village. Was i under the mistaken belief that the whole point was to have Uzu be a birth village?

If that is not the case, then truly, how hard will it be to just create an rp board and call it Ame?

What I find weird is that people are talking the dk req to get to Uzu but I see acads and genins posting there. So either the dk req does not apply anymore or people can post there via Ze Gypsy Tent. >.>

We don't really need it to be a birth village and it's not far (travel point wise).

Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on October 27, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
Mei...you make me smile... The indentation indicates what Raifudo said...and the underline finishes that bit. while underneath that box are the lines that I have said...with my name at the header. SO while I quote Rai...and his words show with his name, my own comment is fixed at the bottom after his words. I shall color code, because I love that.

Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on Today at 01:45:20 pm
-->Quote from: Raifudo, the Raifudo on Today at 05:12:57 am
-->Neji has to fix his quote system ASAP
There's nothing wrong with it. I just assumed people loved quoting themselves.

And Kay, I think you misunderstood. This was the post (Shadow's) that 'confused' Raifudo.

Quote from: Madara (Shadow) on October 27, 2015, 02:12:47 AM
Quote from: Raifudo, the Raifudo on October 27, 2015, 01:48:59 AM
Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on October 26, 2015, 10:57:44 PM
TL;DR, please don't mess up my shops, I like leveling and sitting infinitely more than all this "rp".

My main concern is also the shops. I do both rp and leveling though.

Did you really post 'TL;DR, please don't mess up my shops, I like leveling and sitting infinitely more than all this "rp".'? No you did not.

Eric commented on it and said it was a joke. >.>
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: KayentaMoenkopi on October 28, 2015, 02:42:23 PM: I did indeed miss that. But yes, when he edited the post he didn't delete far enough. that is funny.

For the longest time while the 50 DK village was still second Oto, the need to buy the map was unnecessary to go there. I believe that started happening when the Oto as a birth village was reintroduced. Not sure what happened there, but with the name change to Uzu it has stayed the same situation.
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Raifudo Oppa on October 28, 2015, 05:05:20 PM: Quote from: KayentaMoenkopi on October 28, 2015, 09:11:48 AM
call me slow but i just had my first dk after the Uzu village was implemented and I see it is not a birth village.

What a pain that will be for people who want to rp in uzu but have to travel to fight sensei in their birth village. Was i under the mistaken belief that the whole point was to have Uzu be a birth village?

If that is not the case, then truly, how hard will it be to just create an rp board and call it Ame?

Wasn't meant to be a village of birth. It's essentially Hoshi at the moment.

Which brings up my 4 outcomes:

Quote from: Raifudo, the Raifudo on October 27, 2015, 01:48:59 AM
At the moment, it seems like these are the C&E's:
1) Change Jisei to Ame & lose a neutral city
- I don't mind this much just because the neutral city lost most of its appeal now that we have an OOC board internally of villages. Whether or not Ame now gets more traffic than Uzu shouldn't matter. Uzu was presented an opportunity and won it. Another opportunity is now presenting itself and Ame can easily obtain that one.
2) We rename Jisei to Ame & divide shops
- This is horrible to do considering how much Jisei has to offer to those of us who prefer to level/sit as opposed to RP'ing. Dividing villages will utterly kill our travel points and limit us greatly.
3) We create an Ame village & have virtually nothing but the basics in it
- Board literally becomes a place to post and has no appeal except that. Able to scribe to it would be cool as to no longer require to go there physically and kill travel points if you level. I don't think this should be made into a village you can be born in to as it limits itself as a village to have things such as ninja academies but nothing to benefit from it such as shops.
4) Keep Jisei & let Ame do what they've done before
- May seem "unfair" or whatever, but they lost a poll that could have gotten them a village and now they just gotta deal with not having one.

TL;DR, please don't mess up my shops, I like leveling and sitting infinitely more than all this "rp".
Title: Re: Village Change: Jiseigakure to Amegakure
Post by: Kage on October 30, 2015, 04:25:05 PM: I still don't understand the logic behind using it for future purposes and intent as a central meeting place for all the kage to attend and as a place for neutrality.

Never has there been any effort for all the kage to gather there, since it would take a colossal amount of coordination and time. Whenever the Senju Clan on SL met, we used the Paper Lantern Technique because it was the most beneficial thing to use when concerning those two aforementioned factors.

As for a central place of neutrality, that's pretty much what the ambiguous wilderness serves as already. The zones serve a purpose for that too, and I can name plenty of people who are Missing-Nin, or have a consistent unaffiliated status, who have used them as a means of a place to hide-out from villages and nations.

Jiseigakure is literally a double-OOC board as it is right now. And I don't think that turning Hoshigakure would be a great idea, since it's kinda hard to get to and another party already claims to use it consistently for RP. Making another new village board would take some time, but it could be possible.

But what would you guys feel more comfortable with? Asking for Jisei to be renamed to Ame and save everybody some time, or ask for a completely new village board to be implemented which would require input from the community to add shops, instances, travel conditions, forest-related events if it gets a forest entry point and other things?