Shinobi Legends Forum
Game Development => Feature Requests => Topic started by: Mei on May 07, 2015, 03:26:40 PM
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Hello, I want to find a way to get gems quickly and I thought this way was fair.
In the bank of every village, there is a gem loaner to acquire gems quickly but for a price.
For example, you're 50 gems short in buying a mount or w/e. You go to Loaner and you ask for 50 gems. He gives you the gems and at that point, a 'marker' is put on your account that you owe 50 gems plus interest. Let's say interest is 10%. So in total, you owe 55 gems.
Either or not, you spend the additional gems does not matter. From that point on, you cannot receive additional gems at all. You cannot go back to the Loan Shark for additional gems neither until you pay back what you owe.
You can limit the amount of gems one can borrow by rank.
For example, an academy student can borrow 10 gems, a genin 20 gems, chuunin 30 gems, etc.
That can be one way to do it. Maximum amount of gems one can borrow is....100?
In addition, you add a borrowing fee to it. It can be a flat gold cost or a cost that is related to one's rank.
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But what then when you orokill? Gems would stay, and your gem debt would get wiped just like gold.
Even if it could be coded to persist though, personally I find it'd be a bit of an unnecessary pain to create, since there's already plenty of events among other ways to gather up gems relatively quickly. Just takes a bit of patience.
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I just don't see the need for it. By 80 oro kills people usually have around 200+ even without resets and with resets I can attain around 600 per reset. .-.
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Gold loans get pretty pointless after about 25DK, especially if in a prior reset you stashed up on gold in your dwellings. Just like the gold loans, gem loans would largely be focused on players in the lower brackets who don't have that much currency stocked up.
I think the gem loan should be far lower than 50 gems, however. I think a loan of 10-15 max is more reasonable than 50, just because 50 gems is a huge stack of gems. As far as repayment goes, it could be similar to the Akatsuki where you get deductions on a daily new day basis. However, if you have 0 gems to fork out, then the payment carries over, and unlike Akatsuki, reborningwill not remove the debt from your account.
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well an interesting option would be to just flick the on switch in dwellings to deposit gems. Then we could given them out amongst ourselves. The whole thing is already written as to how many deposits, withdraws, and amounts to withdraw limited to current FF ranks.
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Not a good thing...
why? because if you have -200000 gems (at some point, interest of interest and constant loaning) you can't get out there.
I won't put bankruptcy in the game, so .... ;-)
With gold it's not that relevant, because you kill oro + all is gone
But a few sitters have reaaaaally huge debts... ;) especially those who are at Akatsuki.
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Not a good thing...
why? because if you have -200000 gems (at some point, interest of interest and constant loaning) you can't get out there.
I won't put bankruptcy in the game, so .... ;-)
With gold it's not that relevant, because you kill oro + all is gone
But a few sitters have reaaaaally huge debts... ;) especially those who are at Akatsuki.
The fail sitters. >>
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Not a good thing...
why? because if you have -200000 gems (at some point, interest of interest and constant loaning) you can't get out there.
I won't put bankruptcy in the game, so .... ;-)
With gold it's not that relevant, because you kill oro + all is gone
But a few sitters have reaaaaally huge debts... ;) especially those who are at Akatsuki.
Should the sitters ever go inactive I can imagine that the debt would pile up considerably. And yeah, with no sort of bankruptcy declaration, debt of any sort would at some point becoming nothing more than a frivolous nuisance rather than an actual deterrent to not repaying the gems practically received for free at that point.
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Not a good thing...
why? because if you have -200000 gems (at some point, interest of interest and constant loaning) you can't get out there.
I won't put bankruptcy in the game, so .... ;-)
With gold it's not that relevant, because you kill oro + all is gone
But a few sitters have reaaaaally huge debts... ;) especially those who are at Akatsuki.
I said the maximum amount one can borrow is 100.
And this option is for gem only. I don't know why people are bringing up gold.
I'm sure it can be set up such that your gem debt cannot be erase even after an Oro Kill.
The feature is useful for buying things that you would rather have now than later, especially if it's a rare occurrence. For example, the Kyuubi, or in my case, rare nin collectibles.
Yes I said. The reason for this feature is that I encountered a rare nin collectible and I didn't have enough gems to buy it. For me, there's not a lot of things to collect in-game so my focus changed towards nin collectibles. >.>
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As said, gem storage (or loans) tend to be abused.
Gems do pile up, which is fine.
But as said, I see more potential to be either useless or abused.
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HEY! Might be jumping on this a little too late but it is relating to Gems! I'm quite in the pickle trying to make a new clan for a friend, only to realize my alts don't have sufficient gem funds! While scrambling to sell off some dwellings I realized the Gem deposit function was never installed yet! Even after all these years! There is an option box for it but nothing to it! I mean hey! Could we at least get that going a long? Kinda make dwellings more useful in the sense they could store Gems for those people who need a few extra ones! Consisting of a same limiter per level, preventing abuse and helping out as well! I feel like this would be great as opposed to a loaner system with interest and negative gems if they aren't paid back! There can be a total amount of gems available to be stored and a certain amount you can take or put in per level! I figure it shouldn't be that hard to code/manage since it does the same with gold.
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I believe it was in once, but was removed due to the abuse Neji mentioned.
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Not sure if you can code it so to deposit/withdraw gems you have to pay DP to have that ability, say 1500 DP, but still as Neji said it will either be useless or abused, making too many restrictions it cause it to become useless, too little and you have people abusing it left and right.
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I don't get how this can be abused......that defense doesn't seem to work. There would be a max limit just how the coffers has it with gold. There's even already a global limit of 50 gems! Like what frig how is that gonna be abused? The option box still offers the gem spot, yet no actions to it. I feel like it could easily be opened up and helpful indeed. As if leveling isn't a nuisance already. >>; could be something to offer to help those low accounts who can't afford their mounts or whatever. but seriously, 50 gems is like nothing compared to what others hoard. Then again, I'm just hinting suggestions that could be helpful. Doesn't have to be implemented and we can still go about the same normal routine for 10+ years.
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I don't get how this can be abused......that defense doesn't seem to work. There would be a max limit just how the coffers has it with gold. There's even already a global limit of 50 gems! Like what frig how is that gonna be abused? The option box still offers the gem spot, yet no actions to it. I feel like it could easily be opened up and helpful indeed. As if leveling isn't a nuisance already. >>; could be something to offer to help those low accounts who can't afford their mounts or whatever. but seriously, 50 gems is like nothing compared to what others hoard. Then again, I'm just hinting suggestions that could be helpful. Doesn't have to be implemented and we can still go about the same normal routine for 10+ years.
Multi-alt accounts.
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Basically you have a high level account with 5000 gems and nothing to do with em and then you create a lot of alts. The high level keeps depositing and the alts keep taking. Since high level accounts get gems pretty damn easily it'd be like what dp is today; useless.
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Ehhh, still, they EARNED those gems. Whos to say that isn't a bad idea though? You bought max dwellings, you have the kyuubi, you can no longer reborn and the Master/Grand/Diamyo levels don't seem that interesting to you anymore. Could start an alt to do it all over again, only this time with better help(since you technically beat the game).
You give people something moderated and sooner or later someone is going to end up finding a way to cheat/scam the system. It happens with everything and everywhere. >>; Just look at the function; 'You can't trade DP between alts' Obviously many have found their way around such as have I. Besides, I used to level non reborn accounts and it can be tricky being able to level without a nice supporting mount. Sometimes you'll end up buying Shukaku or the Nibi only to find out Manda and Pakkun are available the next game day. Now if you trade back your mount you probably wouldn't have enough to buy them; with this feature it could help those types of people out! Be it that simple 20-50 gems they need to get the proper mount.
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Well.
I can simply give any char unlimited turns, then you can "earn" enough gems.
You might die, then you make an alt, farm on it... transfer to main, etc.
Believe me, it will only lead to abuse and ~5% real intended use.
Gems are not for store, trade or sale - neither will they be bought with gold.