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Roleplay => All That Is Bijuu => Council => Topic started by: Eric on February 16, 2017, 12:29:14 AM
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While the Biju Council hasn't had much, well, Counciling to do in the past few weeks, a member has still stepped down and thus there is an empty space in the Council. We have an even number of Council Members, so do we want to have someone fill that spot or just leave it be?
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Also didn't Kamui go over the Jinchuriki ratio by getting the 0 Tails? Right now Trev Shadow and Kamui are Jinchuriki and it was supposed to only be two, right?
EDIT: And if we want to get technical, I stepped down to fix the ratio but if it is already broken... Then I should get the spot since I was the runner up?
Or we could hold a vote, I guess.....
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Crazy thing is Kamui isn't a jinchuuriki. I have an alternate character that isn't in the council and happens to have the Zero-Tails. I just don't associate that character with this one, because one is different from the other and thier story lines are entirely different. <<
Trev and Shadow were the only two jinchuuriki that were seated within the council, when Guruguru came to possessed the Zero-Tails.
On to the subject at hand, I don't know of anyone other than Athos that want to fill the slot. There could be someone out that wants to volunteer, but I haven't seen anyone step up and volunteer their time on the council.
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Kamui... you're on the bijuu council. You the person. It doesn't exist IC, your character isn't on it, you are. Whether it's Kamui or your alt having a bijuu can still be a conflict of interests if we have too many Jinchuriki on it. >_> I do not think you could miss the point of that rule any harder if you tried.
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Kamui... you're on the bijuu council. You the person. It doesn't exist IC, your character isn't on it, you are. Whether it's Kamui or your alt having a bijuu can still be a conflict of interests if we have too many Jinchuriki on it. >_> I do not think you could miss the point of that rule any harder if you tried.
Doesn't change the fact that I wasn't a jinchuuriki at the time when I arrived into the council seat. Unless you forgot about Shadow making that thread about Zero-Tails? ._____.;
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Kamui... you're on the bijuu council. You the person. It doesn't exist IC, your character isn't on it, you are. Whether it's Kamui or your alt having a bijuu can still be a conflict of interests if we have too many Jinchuriki on it. >_> I do not think you could miss the point of that rule any harder if you tried.
Doesn't change the fact that I wasn't a jinchuuriki at the time when I arrived into the council seat. Unless you forgot about Shadow making that thread about Zero-Tails? ._____.;
Yeah I know. But you know what the ratio is supposed to be, knew we already had two Jinchuriki, and then went and got the 0 Tails anyway. So what is your point exactly? You don't get to ignore it because you were on the council first and then got a bijuu. Logically you should have had to step down to challenge for the 0 Tails since it would have put us over the limit.
By your logic everyone that wasnt a Jinchuriki when they were elected could get a bijuu and the whole council could be Jinchuriki.
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He won't have it for much longer. :P
For a different topic anyways, yes? With the activity that the council is getting right now....none. I say we just leave the seat unfilled.
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I'll have to agree with Athos on this one. It doesn't matter if the biju is on Guru, and it doesn't matter that it happened after. It still breaks the rule. This doesn't mean you step down, but it means you, Shadow, or I do. However, we can hold off that conversation slightly. If I lose to Kaze once Keito decides, the ratio is fixed.
I also say we replace the member. If someone is up to it. I would say Athos, but unless Kamui loses to Shadow, the council is once again in violation. If we were to leave it empty, one person will have to abstain every single vote. The foundation of rules is already barely in place, and the last thing we need is a 3-3 tie that would destroy the council. And I don't believe in scrambling to find a member just to break a tie, that would be chaos.
So yeah, I say we fill it. I'd say Athos should go up, but I've already been chastised of bending biju rules (the judge rule) so I don't have a leg to stand on. So we either find someone to fill it, or keep it at six and one person abstains every vote. Or Athos could be let in, pending the the Reibi fight and my fight.
Just my opinion anyway
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Let us see how all the fights turn out before we make any rash decision to fill the hole. Especially since the Council isn't being summoned to action.
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Let us see how all the fights turn out before we make any rash decision to fill the hole. Especially since the Council isn't being summoned to action.
+1 that.
Also adding: Wasn't it the council who gave the beast to Kamui over me? We kinda did that without thinking about the rules, yeah?
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Let us see how all the fights turn out before we make any rash decision to fill the hole. Especially since the Council isn't being summoned to action.
+1 that.
Also adding: Wasn't it the council who gave the beast to Kamui over me? We kinda did that without thinking about the rules, yeah?
Yes, that's exactly what happened.
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I am just using Zero-Tails as character development for Guruguru and my fight with Shadow is me testing the waters with those said abilities that devirved from Hiru. (Sorry for all of this, buddy. I'll post in our match tonight. ;))
However this doesn't change the fact that we are still without a seat open, the ratio is even. Which could result in a tie, should any issues arise that require council to vote on it.
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I am just using Zero-Tails as character development for Guruguru and my fight with Shadow is me testing the waters with those said abilities that devirved from Hiru. (Sorry for all of this, buddy. I'll post in our match tonight. ;))
However this doesn't change the fact that we are still without a seat open, the ratio is even. Which could result in a tie, should any issues arise that require council to vote on it.
Either way, you, the player, is in possession of a bijū. That puts you in the same category as a Jinchūriki. Making the ratio off.
Since that topic never got enough juice behind it to change the ratio, we gotta stick with it.
As is, I still say we wait for the fights to resolve to see where we will be standing in our ratio and ranks.
I would suggest asking Eric to take the open seat as he is NOT in the running for any bijū so he would not disrupt the balance further if the jinc-non jinc ratio. If only as a temporary spot for a tie-breaker if the Council comes to a head as that.
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To be fair, I think the council believed Kamui had his challenge in before you, so we'd have to give it to him, even if it would create far less chaos to give it to Shadow.
But the council needs to be a little better about policing themselves, Athos shouldn't have to bring up our ratio is wack.
But yeah, I'm with Dato and Shadow. Wait until the fights are over and decide. There is no council decision that needs to be made, so we have the leisure of time. If people want to be proactive, they can spread the word on SL a seat is open.
Only thing that would call for an election sooner rather than later would be if Kamui unleashes his proposed can of worms that he allegedly has. Although if you have evidence of tampering, idk why Athos reposting would halt that from being released. You either have evidence people cheating or you don't. Don't use it as a weapon to make someone post. If it's an ethical concern, and it violates some sort of rule, bring it here. In which case, we'll need to find another member before the vote. If you're not planning on releasing it, then we can wait everything out.
But yeah, it's unrelated, but I didn't want to comment on the fight thread. There is evidence of tampering or there isn't. Don't use it as a bargaining chip, that's messed up and unethical to both the fight and biju council. >>
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Adding the runner up to fill an opening is a rash decision? Vice-president to President if you will, seems pretty simple to me. Though honestly the community here seems to be under some condition where the simpler a decision is to make the more difficult making that decision becomes. So I fully expect this empty seat to cause more problems.
I'd like it filled as soon as possible, since leaving it open when the council could be called on at any time is really only asking for trouble, but that's just me.
@Trev: Gee does Kamui behave unethically? What a scoop! I'll get right on that one as soon as I finish this article I'm writing on this hot ticket new item called "Sliced Bread."
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To be fair, I think the council believed Kamui had his challenge in before you, so we'd have to give it to him, even if it would create far less chaos to give it to Shadow.
But the council needs to be a little better about policing themselves, Athos shouldn't have to bring up our ratio is wack.
But yeah, I'm with Dato and Shadow. Wait until the fights are over and decide. There is no council decision that needs to be made, so we have the leisure of time. If people want to be proactive, they can spread the word on SL a seat is open.
Only thing that would call for an election sooner rather than later would be if Kamui unleashes his proposed can of worms that he allegedly has. Although if you have evidence of tampering, idk why Athos reposting would halt that from being released. You either have evidence people cheating or you don't. Don't use it as a weapon to make someone post. If it's an ethical concern, and it violates some sort of rule, bring it here. In which case, we'll need to find another member before the vote. If you're not planning on releasing it, then we can wait everything out.
But yeah, it's unrelated, but I didn't want to comment on the fight thread. There is evidence of tampering or there isn't. Don't use it as a bargaining chip, that's messed up and unethical to both the fight and biju council. >>
Exactly. +1
Adding the runner up to fill an opening is a rash decision? Vice-president to President if you will, seems pretty simple to me. Though honestly the community here seems to be under some condition where the simpler a decision is to make the more difficult making that decision becomes. So I fully expect this empty seat to cause more problems.
I'd like it filled as soon as possible, since leaving it open when the council could be called on at any time is really only asking for trouble, but that's just me.
@Trev: Gee does Kamui behave unethically? What a scoop! I'll get right on that one as soon as I finish this article I'm writing on this hot ticket new item called "Sliced Bread."
It is rash considering you would be another Jinchūriki being added to the council when we are already past our ratio.
It would also be rash that, if Kamui decides to make the post, that you would be at the center of the topic.
Having you on the Council will then muddle an effective decision being made about the subject. Just like having him on the Council will as well. So he would be forced from voting on the scenario as well.
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I guess we should at least wait for one of the fights to finish.
Only thing I'm at the center of is the temper tantrum Kamui is throwing over the FFA participants agreeing that he's bad at should be eliminated first.
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There should have been an small pair of interim council members decided for such a situation as this. At that moment, the interim would come in, cast in their vote and things would be peachy. But, it is true that the seat needs to be filled ASAP. Athos obviously shouldn't be the candidate considering the obvious status. Considering that Kamui did go and get a Biju, he should be put on time out. Eric can't be put on, because he's in the middle of Judging and it would just be a big no-no. Bec... is Bec on it? He's smart and unbiased... actually a lot of the Otokages are unbiased. Damn, that's weird. You guys will figure it out eventually.
This blackmail thing is weird, considering we're supposed to be shinobi, it should be right in our wheelhouse to be doing something like this. OH, TOMI'S BACK, don't really know who that is on a personal level, but he's a smart cookie, he can jump in the seat. Oh, back on the subject. Things like planning, alliances, betrayal/double crossing, that's just what we're supposed to be doing. We're not samurai, why would we worry about morals and honor?
Also, what's exactly happening for the fight anyway, cause I'm just about tired of waiting on knowing if I'm on the clock or not? Is Athos doing a repost?
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*is apparently bad at should be eliminated first, derp.*
Meh, I already made the topic and all that jazz.
I guess we will hold off on this until those matches conclude themselves, I don't know how Eric feels about this. So I'll await his reply before we locked the thread and move onto something else.
@Jay, Athos is stalling for time with his re-post and doesn't want to re-post until he hears back from Eric. Which at this point I want to say that the clock is ticking for him.
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*is apparently bad at should be eliminated first, derp.*
Meh, I already made the topic and all that jazz.
I guess we will hold off on this until those matches conclude themselves, I don't know how Eric feels about this. So I'll await his reply before we locked the thread and move onto something else.
@Jay, Athos is stalling for time with his re-post and doesn't want to re-post until he hears back from Eric. Which at this point I want to say that the clock is ticking for him.
But, if we're waiting on Eric, then the clock is stopped? Because, the topic is locked, so even if it was on either of us, we wouldn't be able to post.
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*is apparently bad at should be eliminated first, derp.*
Meh, I already made the topic and all that jazz.
I guess we will hold off on this until those matches conclude themselves, I don't know how Eric feels about this. So I'll await his reply before we locked the thread and move onto something else.
@Jay, Athos is stalling for time with his re-post and doesn't want to re-post until he hears back from Eric. Which at this point I want to say that the clock is ticking for him.
But, if we're waiting on Eric, then the clock is stopped? Because, the topic is locked, so even if it was on either of us, we wouldn't be able to post.
*offtopic* http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,9287.0.html <- Please go through this topic. It has Eric's ruling on there. *offtopic*
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*is apparently bad at should be eliminated first, derp.*
Meh, I already made the topic and all that jazz.
I guess we will hold off on this until those matches conclude themselves, I don't know how Eric feels about this. So I'll await his reply before we locked the thread and move onto something else.
@Jay, Athos is stalling for time with his re-post and doesn't want to re-post until he hears back from Eric. Which at this point I want to say that the clock is ticking for him.
But, if we're waiting on Eric, then the clock is stopped? Because, the topic is locked, so even if it was on either of us, we wouldn't be able to post.
*offtopic* http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,9287.0.html <- Please go through this topic. It has Eric's ruling on there. *offtopic*
Oh, I thought I had read that already. I'm going to start writing my post and just assume that Athos changes it to just a Biju chakra/Senjutsu filled Rasenshuriken and just doesn't call it a Tailed Beast Ball.
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*is apparently bad at should be eliminated first, derp.*
Meh, I already made the topic and all that jazz.
I guess we will hold off on this until those matches conclude themselves, I don't know how Eric feels about this. So I'll await his reply before we locked the thread and move onto something else.
@Jay, Athos is stalling for time with his re-post and doesn't want to re-post until he hears back from Eric. Which at this point I want to say that the clock is ticking for him.
But, if we're waiting on Eric, then the clock is stopped? Because, the topic is locked, so even if it was on either of us, we wouldn't be able to post.
*offtopic* http://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,9287.0.html <- Please go through this topic. It has Eric's ruling on there. *offtopic*
Oh, I thought I had read that already. I'm going to start writing my post and just assume that Athos changes it to just a Biju chakra/Senjutsu filled Rasenshuriken and just doesn't call it a Tailed Beast Ball.
Wait until Eric gets back on and clarifies it for Athos despite Eric already making his decision.
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No it's fine Jay you can go. That's what I was going to repost so just rp that. There's really no reason for me to change anything. I charged a Sage Art Rasenshuriken for a while that would be big enough to explode and hit all three other people, assuming you and Kamui havent been sealed since it hits after that would have happened. Don't really care if anyone uses the lack of details to avoid it.
I suppose I should consider the council's misinterpretation of this rule a step up from their usual stance of just forgetting rules entirely.
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Back the the point of this topic. You'll need a replacement for me as well.
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Back the the point of this topic. You'll need a replacement for me as well.
And you're a Jinchuriki so I could step in no problem (once the fights are over) since the ratio will be back to normal and as I said Kamui's issue was a non-issue so there's nothing there holding it up either.
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Back the the point of this topic. You'll need a replacement for me as well.
Ehhh, I don't even want to be on this council anymore. Might as well find a replacement for me.
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Back the the point of this topic. You'll need a replacement for me as well.
Ehhh, I don't even want to be on this council anymore. Might as well find a replacement for me.
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:oops:
At this rate we'll have a new record, and the 1st Cohort will have something else to brag about. :P
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:oops:
At this rate we'll have a new record, and the 1st Cohort will have something else to brag about. :P
Gotta reach for the stars man.
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You guys have fun with the council going the way of the do-do bird. That's what is going to happen at this rate and the 1st cohort could brag that it was pretty much pointless to formulate it in the first place. Everyone remember what happened to the first council? I did, because I was on it and it wasn't pretty to witness. :oops:
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I know I'm going to. Without having to remind you guys of all the rules you keep forgetting to enforce I'm going to have way more free time. Might take up knitting.
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With both Kamui and Shadow stepping down, that leaves 1 open Jinchūriki spot to balance the ratio.
With Kamui and Shadow both stepping away from the Zero-Tails, then it goes to Maya.
Maya is my alt account. Thus, I now fulfill the Jinchūriki quota.
That disqualifies Athos from stepping in for now.
If both Nekomaru and Keito are voted in, that resolves the absence of Kay and Shadow. We need an additional *non-Jinchūriki* member to fill in the seat that Kamui is leaving behind.
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With both Kamui and Shadow stepping down, that leaves 1 open Jinchūriki spot to balance the ratio.
With Kamui and Shadow both stepping away from the Zero-Tails, then it goes to Maya.
Maya is my alt account. Thus, I now fulfill the Jinchūriki quota.
That disqualifies Athos from stepping in for now.
If both Nekomaru and Keito are voted in, that resolves the absence of Kay and Shadow. We need an additional *non-Jinchūriki* member to fill in the seat that Kamui is leaving behind.
+1 for being so slick with that
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Except my fight with Trev just finished and I won, meaning Trev no longer has any bijuu, and me joining doesn't throw off the balance.
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Except my fight with Trev just finished and I won, meaning Trev no longer has any bijuu, and me joining doesn't throw off the balance.
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/fe/fec6c061ce3e5ee2ff757db444178f29f162ec94c63861e9e854f034b5a4f079.jpg)
OJ still did it... just saying.
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Except my fight with Trev just finished and I won, meaning Trev no longer has any bijuu, and me joining doesn't throw off the balance.
Quit with the passive-aggressive posts. That's a warning.
As it stands, you still have to be elected in.
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There was nothing aggressive, passive or otherwise, about my post.
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Um, does he or Neko have to be elected in? If we have more volunteers than slots or just enough, an election would kind of be pointless wouldn't it? A formal induction maybe, but a full blown election would be pointless since all of the seats need to be filled eventually. We still have a month left to go on the 2nd Cohort's ticket.
And for the record, the 1st Cohort had folks stepping down as a result of Council duties being stressful or conflicting with their lives. Not becuase of non-Council related matters. That's what the Cohort would brag about, if any light could be found in the dark veil of last night.
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I assumed that Nekomaru would have to be voted in like the rest and a vote will be taken place sometimes soon.
Eric, for the record. That shit that I have to endured last night was bijuu council related. Because it involved deliberately setting up bijuu matches in that other player's favor, which would constitute to getting the council involved. The 1st cohort is going to have more than just bragging rights, they can say that council didn't take something bijuu-related as seriously as they should've. Which is true, because everyone made it seem like it wasn't that big of a deal. This is one the reasons that I am leaving the council, because if you guys don't want to do your job then why should I be a part of something that says this sort of issue isn't that big a deal?
You guys have fun corrupting yourselves like me and Ace predicted.
I know I'm going to. Without having to remind you guys of all the rules you keep forgetting to enforce I'm going to have way more free time. Might take up knitting.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's a laugh and coming from a guy that deliberately broke a bijuu rule and tried to defend his illegal actions in the most pathetic way possible. Oh boy, this new council is going to be exciting to watch. I can't wait until you pull something like you did on someone else and they report it to council, you'll probably use your position to pardon your actions and vote that no punishment occurs for that.