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Game Development => Feature Requests => Clan Requests => Topic started by: Sanosoke on January 16, 2007, 08:22:11 PM

Title: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 16, 2007, 08:22:11 PM
Note: I used the search feature, and didn't find anything on this. If there happens to be something like this, please give me a link.


I think we should have a DK restriction on who can make a clan. At the least, Chuunin, because we have alot of "junk" clans out there.... (junk clans being clans that is entirely made up of inactive AS and Genin, and are going to be deleted soon.) You can join any clan that you can meet the requirements of... but if you wanted to make your clan... you'd have to wait.

I'll admit, I made my clan when I was AS... and it's nearly died... multiple times... but I've kept it up, so far; however, I wished that I had went to a clan that I could have learned something about running my own. I realize that's my own fault, but maybe we can help some before we get another ton of clans thrown at us...

Plus, that'd probably mean some of our other clans would be a little more successful... heh>>
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Baluski on January 16, 2007, 09:41:35 PM
I've endlessly debated this topic to no avail. I've always said that a clan leader must at least Be Jounin before they can even think of making a clan...*sigh* I don't want to get into it again.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 16, 2007, 09:57:16 PM
well, before someone write's this penguin's name in a deathnote...

why not?
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Neji on January 16, 2007, 10:28:45 PM
if you insist, I can put in such a limit for making a clan.

it's not that big work.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Shukaku on January 16, 2007, 10:29:46 PM
I've endlessly debated this topic to no avail. I've always said that a clan leader must at least Be Jounin before they can even think of making a clan...*sigh* I don't want to get into it again.

i agree with baluski about that.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Hyuuga Hiashi on January 16, 2007, 10:30:45 PM
Well thats good with  DK limit there should be less clan being made I swear I see a new clan every day.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: LeafToad on January 16, 2007, 10:33:32 PM
yes, please put in a limit. :D
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 16, 2007, 10:43:22 PM
 :shock:

People agreeing with me... so this is what it's like...

Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: ryushi on January 17, 2007, 12:38:53 AM
Yes there used to be like 20 clans, now theres 100 I think o_O
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Hyuuga Hiashi on January 17, 2007, 12:55:42 AM
i petty sure theres more then 100  :( sadly
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Abysss on January 17, 2007, 04:23:24 AM
MORE THAN 100?! PLEASE NEJI PUT A LIMIT ON CLANMAKING SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE SPARRED :smt089 :smt100
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: kboogi on January 17, 2007, 04:04:58 PM
It looks like there will be a dk limit then. I guess no one wishes to object against this...

By the way, I too agree there should be a limit - at least chuunin rank...
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 17, 2007, 04:21:41 PM
lol, what are you complaining about? You have over 100... and you already have your clan... I don't think Neji will raise the standard for a clan THAT high...

right? Oh come on, please tell me that Risuku isn't going to be the only one leading a clan... =P
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on January 18, 2007, 01:09:33 AM
Jounin is where the game starts to get interesting...
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: LeafToad on January 18, 2007, 02:37:01 AM
I don't think Chuunin is good enough. Jounin is the appropriate rank to start making a clan. >.>
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: PyroPrinny on January 18, 2007, 02:48:56 AM
Boo!
Hiss!
Don't raise the taxes!

...
...
Oh...Wrong protest...
*pulls out other sign*
Hey hey! Ho Ho! Genin clans have got to go! Hey hey! Ho ho! Jounin's are the way to go!
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Lebis on January 18, 2007, 02:59:48 AM
What? No!

I wanted to make my clan on my alt and she's a Genin. Yet she has the defense level of a Jounin. Does that count? :]

I'm just kidding. I'll just make the clan on Ino.. But it'd be better if it was done with Viral. ]:
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: ryushi on January 18, 2007, 03:18:59 AM
Maybe the rank should be raised to anbu captain >>
But Jounin is fine too, never heard of a chuunin clan leader
BUT the genin and Acad leaders have to go :evil:
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on January 18, 2007, 03:20:35 AM
I wanted to make my clan on my alt and she's a Genin. Yet she has the defense level of a Jounin. Does that count? :]

Kyuubi no Gyururu has 80+120 attack and 75+90.9 defense at 8 DK. That's like Master Hokage with Kyuubi =D
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: PyroPrinny on January 18, 2007, 03:22:44 AM
Kyuubi no Gyururu has 80+120 attack and 75+90.9 defense at 8 DK. That's like Master Hokage with Kyuubi =D

o.O
I'm assuming those are Temp attack and def boosts...And I assume that you have Kyuubi...Because I only have about 31 attack and Def with a level 15 weapon and armor...And I'm a blue Anbu Captain >.>
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: ryushi on January 18, 2007, 03:28:29 AM
I wanted to make my clan on my alt and she's a Genin. Yet she has the defense level of a Jounin. Does that count? :]

Kyuubi no Gyururu has 80+120 attack and 75+90.9 defense at 8 DK. That's like Master Hokage with Kyuubi =D

I assume you like being very strong o_O
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on January 18, 2007, 03:38:12 AM
o.O
I'm assuming those are Temp attack and def boosts...And I assume that you have Kyuubi...Because I only have about 31 attack and Def with a level 15 weapon and armor...And I'm a blue Anbu Captain >.>

Even after all of my buff & mount run out, I still have 80+20 attack & 75+4 defense. Shinigami's Blessed Weapon & Ninja Leetness don't run out.

I assume you like being very strong o_O

Yup.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Lebis on January 18, 2007, 04:04:53 AM
I wanted to make my clan on my alt and she's a Genin. Yet she has the defense level of a Jounin. Does that count? :]

Kyuubi no Gyururu has 80+120 attack and 75+90.9 defense at 8 DK. That's like Master Hokage with Kyuubi =D

No hun, that's like.. 65 rank Hokage. :]

And that's only if you spent all your points on attack/defenseattack OR defense ALONE.

Sorry. I had to change something.

Do the math. You have level 15 equipment obviously, which is easy to get by levels 3 and 4 at my rank.

  65
+15
-----
  ??

I believe that's 80 right there.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Kureaa on January 18, 2007, 04:28:57 AM
Too many of the Clans are completely dead.  And I find that's because they are run my Academy Students or Genins.

If this Restriction does happen then we'll have a lot less One Member Clans which is a good thing  :)

Besides, no one wants to have an Academy Student as a Leader  ;)
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on January 18, 2007, 04:31:32 AM
*is not good with maths*
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Lebis on January 18, 2007, 04:35:26 AM
Then how do you live life, Gyu? Surely you're not living with your parents at your current age...

Besides, no one wants to have an Academy Student as a Leader  ;)

I find that offensive. :\

So because my alt is only a Genin.. does that mean I will run the clan poorly? When in fact, my main alt is a Master Hokage? I think not. Don't be stereotyping me now... :]
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Kureaa on January 18, 2007, 04:38:56 AM
Then how do you live life, Gyu? Surely you're not living with your parents at your current age...

Besides, no one wants to have an Academy Student as a Leader  ;)

I find that offensive. :\

So because my alt is only a Genin.. does that mean I will run the clan poorly? When in fact, my main alt is a Master Hokage? I think not. Don't be stereotyping me now... :]

Lol  :) I myself am an Academy Student >.<

I reached 18 DKs but decided to start over for certain reasons and deleted my character.  So I was kind of insulting myself  ;)
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Lebis on January 18, 2007, 04:41:13 AM
I highly doubt you were. You seem to be familiar with being a moderately ranked character, therefore directed the blame of failing clans to Students and Genin.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Kureaa on January 18, 2007, 04:48:21 AM
I highly doubt you were. You seem to be familiar with being a moderately ranked character, therefore directed the blame of failing clans to Students and Genin.

I am mostly going by facts and things I have seen with my own eyes.  Does not mean that there are not exceptions, such as yourself, to the rule, but many of the "lesser" clans are run by Academy Students or Genins.

Fact:  Academy Students have less experience then Sannins and such.  That inexperience tends to result in a "lesser" clan.

I seriously don't mean this offensively.  Seriously  :)
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 18, 2007, 04:53:52 AM
as long as the restriction is reasonable... I don't care if it's Chuunin, Jounin, or even ANBU Captain... Nothing Genin or below... -_-

But for the deal of all the current clan run by an AS or Genin... how's that gonna work? I mean... are they just going to be deleted or what?
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Lebis on January 18, 2007, 04:59:07 AM
But for the deal of all the current clan run by an AS or Genin... how's that gonna work? I mean... are they just going to be deleted or what?

That's what I'd like to know. Some clans, such as Rave, were successful at one point. (Rave fell because of the clan bug thing.. Sad sad sight).
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 18, 2007, 05:05:55 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot about Rave... yeah, he had a decent one... but you have to admit... if one were to suffer for the cause of many>>
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on January 18, 2007, 05:11:55 AM
Then how do you live life, Gyu? Surely you're not living with your parents at your current age...

I do live with my parents...and I was just kidding about the math part. Just don't like doing math.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Lebis on January 18, 2007, 05:17:35 AM
Then how do you live life, Gyu? Surely you're not living with your parents at your current age...

I do live with my parents...and I was just kidding about the math part. Just don't like doing math.

I don't like math either. But something that simple should be tolerated, as it is 2 grade work and effort.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on January 18, 2007, 05:29:40 AM
The 65+15 thingy is easy. You can tell the answer just by looking at it. What I mean was calculating what level is my stat at @_@
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Lebis on January 18, 2007, 05:31:13 AM
That, also... is very simple..
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 18, 2007, 05:36:03 AM
Dis seems to be going off topic... "-_-

finish this little math quarrel...

but to the issue at hand, what about existing clans led by such?
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on January 18, 2007, 05:50:58 AM
*squat under a tree and look at the clouds* Maths, how troublesome...

Anyway, about the current clans, just let them be. The same as the dwelling restriction, no dwelling that was already made were delete.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Shukaku on January 18, 2007, 12:48:42 PM
i hate math. who don't ????  :evil:
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Neji on January 18, 2007, 05:28:22 PM
/me studies mathematics and informatics...  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

<--bastard admin from hell


[/offtopic]

I'll make a poll on the game. That will decide it.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 18, 2007, 05:38:58 PM
I just hope the hoards of Academy Students don't try to overun us... --__--
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Baluski on January 18, 2007, 05:44:33 PM
But for the deal of all the current clan run by an AS or Genin... how's that gonna work? I mean... are they just going to be deleted or what?

That's what I'd like to know. Some clans, such as Rave, were successful at one point. (Rave fell because of the clan bug thing.. Sad sad sight).

Also keep in mind that Rave Master was an alt for a member who's high up in Dragon Kills, he wasn't a newbie and knew much about the game and how to lead.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: KingCyrus on January 18, 2007, 05:50:23 PM
To make a clan, you should be sannin  :twisted:


What's wrong with math? I like it :P
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: asdfjkl on January 18, 2007, 06:11:45 PM
I say hunter nin. From DK's 1-8 you are just getting adjusted. than from 8 - 12 you start learning about the vampire lord event and akastuki, so i say by hunter nin you know about enough.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Neji on January 18, 2007, 06:21:41 PM
if more are complaining, I'll add all ranks. I just thought about jounin or sannin.

Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 18, 2007, 07:49:11 PM
ANBU would be a good rank to set the bar... but that may be a little high...
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Lebis on January 18, 2007, 08:02:48 PM
But for the deal of all the current clan run by an AS or Genin... how's that gonna work? I mean... are they just going to be deleted or what?

That's what I'd like to know. Some clans, such as Rave, were successful at one point. (Rave fell because of the clan bug thing.. Sad sad sight).

Also keep in mind that Rave Master was an alt for a member who's high up in Dragon Kills, he wasn't a newbie and knew much about the game and how to lead.

I'm not a newbie either. Far from it actually. :]

But depending on time, I will never be able to make a clan unless I level Viral, which I won't. And you know very very well that I will never leave Drago, Baluski.

So this will restrict me due to time and how fast Oliver can do this? Very kind of you. :]
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 18, 2007, 08:15:16 PM
>>

sorry... but there are too many clans led by AS and Genin... that are dead...

maybe a feature where you request a special thing to ask Neji to make a clan with less DK than normal... that'd probably be abused... >>
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Lebis on January 18, 2007, 09:07:12 PM
>>

sorry... but there are too many clans led by AS and Genin... that are dead...

maybe a feature where you request a special thing to ask Neji to make a clan with less DK than normal... that'd probably be abused... >>

Well... I made my clan just like, 2 minutes ago. Yay me. :]

I could care less what happens now, but Jounin seems fine for me.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: LeafToad on January 18, 2007, 11:13:03 PM
haha... no more academy student made clans!!! :D

Although Jounin is nice, I wouldn't have been mad if Sannin were in the lead. >.>
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Lebis on January 18, 2007, 11:15:57 PM
Now if it was Sannin... the game would be less appealing to others. I mean, think about it, we're already restricting a lot of lower ranked people from quite a bit. We don't want everything taken away.

You have them questioning seals, tattoos, Hoshi, Akatsuki, blah.
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Shukaku on January 18, 2007, 11:20:52 PM
Now if it was Sannin... the game would be less appealing to others. I mean, think about it, we're already restricting a lot of lower ranked people from quite a bit. We don't want everything taken away.

You have them questioning seals, tattoos, Hoshi, Akatsuki, blah.

well we can't blame them for asking  :)
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Lebis on January 18, 2007, 11:40:24 PM
Exactly. Do we want the future Anbu Captains and below questioning why they can't make a clan? You know that there will be constant debates on the matter. Oh, I'm a Hunter Nin, I should be able to make a clan. And so on. It'll be the new form of chaos. :]
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: RAIKIRI on January 19, 2007, 12:44:55 AM
This whole topic has been posted on by at least Jounin or higher people. { no offense} We should get an acad's point of view on it. I say yes for teh restriction and change it to Jounin. Either way, acads are going to somehow become leaders. They could take over after a clan leader leaves and so on. So technically, this problem will never end. But it will most certainly get better. Also, if you really want your alt to be the leader of a clan, cnat you just form a clan with your main, add you alt in it, promote your alt, and then leave and rejoin your prevois clan. A lot of work i know but if you really wnat a calN....

I've rambled on enough. All im saying is that if Acads really wanted a clan, they could get it. They could ask their higher level friends or w/e. Unless Neji Makes it that all acads are banned from leader posistion...


Either way i vote yees. >.>
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Shukaku on January 19, 2007, 12:47:36 AM
Exactly. Do we want the future Anbu Captains and below questioning why they can't make a clan? You know that there will be constant debates on the matter. Oh, I'm a Hunter Nin, I should be able to make a clan. And so on. It'll be the new form of chaos. :]

you are a hunter nin ? >.>
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: LeafToad on January 19, 2007, 12:57:50 AM
Well, as opposed to the Sannin thing, it was only wishful thinking. As not everyone is suitable to be the leader or founder of a clan, but with a Sannin, a more experienced person of the game, it can make clans better and stronger. And also, with only Sannins making clans, then there would only shorten the creations of clans once more. I for one enjoyed my time as an academy student when there were only around 20 clans in the game. >.>
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: KingCyrus on January 19, 2007, 12:59:51 AM
I agree it should be sannin....
But it's no big deal..
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Shukaku on January 19, 2007, 01:02:10 AM
i think almost everyone says jounin. sannin is too high
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: asdfjkl on January 19, 2007, 01:09:55 AM
sannin really is to high, jounin is perfect
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: sushigewd2.0 on January 19, 2007, 01:18:11 AM
Maybe clans should be completely abolished? lol
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Shukaku on January 19, 2007, 01:21:07 AM
Maybe clans should be completely abolished? lol

-__- duh
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: SharinganNaruto on January 19, 2007, 01:34:09 AM
Sannin isn't to high ._. Man I remember when I was barely started playing, if you were Kage ranked you were like Godly strong  o.o but now a days there are so many higher ranked characters and such, I see it as ANBU Captain  being the Jounin from my day. >.>;
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 19, 2007, 03:47:14 AM
Sannin is kinda high... especially if you are a new person on the game... you look and say... "Holy crap, 25 Dragon Kills (for those that know about the rankings), That's a TON!"

when I started...  Jounin was soooo far away... :P
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: ryushi on January 19, 2007, 03:48:28 AM
Sannin is kinda high... especially if you are a new person on the game... you look and say... "Holy crap, 25 Dragon Kills (for those that know about the rankings), That's a TON!"

when I started...  Jounin was soooo far away... :P

Same here, the thought of never becoming a high rank is what drove me to quit but then I beat everything on runescape and quit Kingdom of Loathing so here I am!
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Neji on January 19, 2007, 08:59:34 AM
 :twisted: kill all clans? why not  :twisted:

then we would start from scratch again ;)))


*hehe*

well, yes, an acad could still become leader... no big deal. but *never* founder =)
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: LeafToad on January 19, 2007, 01:12:57 PM
:twisted: kill all clans? why not  :twisted:

then we would start from scratch again ;)))

kill all clans... except for <Drago> :D
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: SharinganNaruto on January 19, 2007, 03:02:21 PM
:twisted: kill all clans? why not  :twisted:

then we would start from scratch again ;)))

kill all clans... except for <BoC> :D


I finally agree with you LeafToad  :D
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Baluski on January 19, 2007, 04:58:55 PM
:twisted: kill all clans? why not  :twisted:

then we would start from scratch again ;)))

kill all clans... except for <BoC> and <Drago> :D


I finally agree with you LeafToad  :D

And I agree with you!
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 19, 2007, 05:56:36 PM
Hey... I need my 25 gems back if you gonna do that... I just lost 20 to Lonestrider...

I think him and Kabuto are working together... Kabuto made me use all my jutsu and items... then lonestrider comes and finishes me off... >:(
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: ryushi on January 19, 2007, 10:46:32 PM
:twisted: kill all clans? why not  :twisted:

then we would start from scratch again ;)))

kill all clans... except for <Hyo>, <Dnin>, and <Drago> :D

Why not, sounds great ^^
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Sanosoke on January 19, 2007, 10:49:56 PM
I have a feeling this will go on for awhile...


if you spare any clan, spare Kboogi's... >>
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Hyuuga Hiashi on January 19, 2007, 11:11:01 PM
hey no ANBU gets spared >.>
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Shukaku on January 19, 2007, 11:16:55 PM
I have a feeling this will go on for awhile...


if you spare any clan, spare Kboogi's... >>

 :D muhamuha hurray shoku !
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: yoyo on January 19, 2007, 11:21:43 PM
I wouldnt mind all of the clans going ka-poot...Starting anew sounds rather nice...Everyone would be able to just make the clans they had before if they are dedicated enough...Except there should be a warning before the clans go away...So people can save all the information they put into the clan...Like the descriptions and ranks they had going....Would people be getting back the stuff they spent on the clans or is that a lost cause?
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: LeafToad on January 20, 2007, 12:06:37 AM
:twisted: kill all clans? why not  :twisted:

then we would start from scratch again ;)))

kill all clans... especially the clan Sharuto is in.


I finally agree with you LeafToad  :D

:D
Title: Re: Restriction
Post by: Neji on January 20, 2007, 12:45:02 AM
enough spam.

locked.