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Council / Re: Future Council Structure [Discussion]
« on: November 02, 2016, 05:25:56 AM »
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Council / Re: Future Council Structure [Discussion]
« on: October 31, 2016, 11:53:01 PM »
Oh, you know by now I could care less about someone being "right" or "wrong." 
The objective is simply finding ways to our goals.
I would possibly suggest then to hold off on certain voting topics, until most are sure they can be properly addressed.
The objective is simply finding ways to our goals.
I would possibly suggest then to hold off on certain voting topics, until most are sure they can be properly addressed.
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Council / Re: Future Council Structure [Discussion]
« on: October 31, 2016, 05:18:08 AM »This is not the discussion thread for this. The Council structure thread linked on the first post is.
However, since people are giving conditional votes (which is kind of hard to count) let me reiterate my two cents here. If you can find 5 non-biju and non-kage who want to be on the Biju Council, then I am willing to consider the "conflict of interest" as a problem. Get me 3 and I would be impressed. The Council has trouble filling out its member list, so why NOT let the jinchs and the kages on board? It's not like really anyone else seems to care enough to be on the Council at this point in time.
I'm all ears for alternatives to filling out the slots.
Although I voted for the majority, I must at least defend the minority.
Before we keep on saying there are not enough people wanting to be on the council, let's wait and see how many people show interest. You may be right Eric, but at least wait and see how many people show interest. The point is not to assume, and then if right say "told you so." Anyone can do that. xD
I try not to assume anything, even if I may be right...I would give you the same advice.
Planning for the future however, is a different discussion.
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Council / Re: Volunteers for Biju Council Thread
« on: October 31, 2016, 05:11:45 AM »
My name will be in the hat as well. 
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Council / Re: Open up Council Membership to Jinchurikii and Kage [vote]
« on: October 29, 2016, 07:03:32 PM »2
the whole point of not having bijuu holders and kage on the council was to avoid conflicts of interest. How often is a council member going to have to abstain from voting if they are dealing with their own clan members or are actually part of the issue being voted upon? Potentially, if hosts are on the council, they will end up in a position to discipline themselves.
see the problem here?
I strongly agree with Kay, however I am one for compromise.
I vote *1,* contingent on a separate voting topic to be created for the allocation of the number of seat(s) for Jinchurikii/Beast summoners and Kage.
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Council / Re: Future Council Structure [Discussion]
« on: October 27, 2016, 05:48:31 AM »
Oh, I wasn't referring to you, or anyone specifically, with regards to complaining. =)
In my posts, as you have surely noticed, I make general statements on occasion to save time, just so people view a discussion from another point of view.
I simply want to ensure others know that nothing is easy, or as ideal as we like it to be. Hence why I simply state how it is, and how it works. Again, I may not agree with it, but just like everyone else, I follow the norm as well.
If you would like to make it more appealing, then ideas should be offered. And then we vote on it. =)
In my posts, as you have surely noticed, I make general statements on occasion to save time, just so people view a discussion from another point of view.
I simply want to ensure others know that nothing is easy, or as ideal as we like it to be. Hence why I simply state how it is, and how it works. Again, I may not agree with it, but just like everyone else, I follow the norm as well.
If you would like to make it more appealing, then ideas should be offered. And then we vote on it. =)
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Council / Re: Future Council Structure [Discussion]
« on: October 27, 2016, 03:40:14 AM »
Yes, actually...
The staff is notified, and/or I speak directly to the member when necessary.
My judgement has been questioned numerous times, of course it has--- much less now-a-days with a proven track record. What do I do to ensure I am following protocol that most will never see? I message Neji directly and provide proof, I post in our grotto and provide proof, etc... So yes, I still make a case for my actions, and so does every staff member actually.
Why? Because I want every staff member to know, including myself, that respect can be lost at anytime. And that "respect" should not last forever, it should always depend on multiple factors that continue to change.
Personally, I find it completely *acceptable* that I justify the reason for actions I take to those that *need* to be notified. I expect other staff to do so as well. In my case, I justify my actions to the staff and Oliver if necessary. And, I discuss with mostly each individual I warn or ban. I rather not share names, but any staff member at least can attest to that.
With that said, I do understand your point. However, with the creation or formation of something new, the people who are in charge of it or those who are involved in it will always be scrutinized. They should then work to defend why it is necessary to have them, the idea, the newly created council for example, etc. Again, I still do that. I defend my actions to staff, to Oliver, and I defend why we might still need a council. Numerous members have played an incredible role by building a foundation.
Of course the foundation isn't great, but when given the chance to help, many did not volunteer to be in the initial discussions. And even now, I see less activity from some. No, it can't be had both ways. If you are busy with life, of course it's understandable. But don't complain afterwards, because so many chances to help continue to be asked, if not begged for. We all see right through the BS.
Finally to add, a moderator may be needed, but *I* may not be needed. =)
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Your work as a council member, other members' work as forum staff, site staff, item editors, volunteers, etc..., it is not an easy gig. It will be challenging, it will be tough, and unfortunately, the burden will always be upon us to ensure that we defend why some things are needed-- even if it is proven to work. That simply makes the case easier, we use more facts. xD
**The point I am making, no matter the position a person has, in real life or here, there is so much involved to fulling that position. And I think so many members have proven to be incredible leaders. It never ceases to amaze me. At times, I know I disappoint some members. Not everyone will be happy either by what I personally do or say. But, I'll simply continue to further improve myself, and work harder to ensure I minimize any faults that I have.
Once members do not have the trust and respect for *me*, I know it's time to step down (if not removed). At that point, it becomes increasingly tough for me to defend ideas or creations that have proven to work. It basically ruins the image because my name is attached to it. But in the end, I can simply do my best in hopes of providing the best service possible. =)
Sometimes, just sometimes, it may be the person who is the problem-- not the institution itself. But, since we are all biased to a certain extent, some simply will never take responsibility for their own actions.
*coughs*
Please, I do hope anyone responding to this topic reads my entire post. Please, thanks!
The staff is notified, and/or I speak directly to the member when necessary.
My judgement has been questioned numerous times, of course it has--- much less now-a-days with a proven track record. What do I do to ensure I am following protocol that most will never see? I message Neji directly and provide proof, I post in our grotto and provide proof, etc... So yes, I still make a case for my actions, and so does every staff member actually.
Why? Because I want every staff member to know, including myself, that respect can be lost at anytime. And that "respect" should not last forever, it should always depend on multiple factors that continue to change.
Personally, I find it completely *acceptable* that I justify the reason for actions I take to those that *need* to be notified. I expect other staff to do so as well. In my case, I justify my actions to the staff and Oliver if necessary. And, I discuss with mostly each individual I warn or ban. I rather not share names, but any staff member at least can attest to that.
With that said, I do understand your point. However, with the creation or formation of something new, the people who are in charge of it or those who are involved in it will always be scrutinized. They should then work to defend why it is necessary to have them, the idea, the newly created council for example, etc. Again, I still do that. I defend my actions to staff, to Oliver, and I defend why we might still need a council. Numerous members have played an incredible role by building a foundation.
Of course the foundation isn't great, but when given the chance to help, many did not volunteer to be in the initial discussions. And even now, I see less activity from some. No, it can't be had both ways. If you are busy with life, of course it's understandable. But don't complain afterwards, because so many chances to help continue to be asked, if not begged for. We all see right through the BS.
Finally to add, a moderator may be needed, but *I* may not be needed. =)
----------------------------------
Your work as a council member, other members' work as forum staff, site staff, item editors, volunteers, etc..., it is not an easy gig. It will be challenging, it will be tough, and unfortunately, the burden will always be upon us to ensure that we defend why some things are needed-- even if it is proven to work. That simply makes the case easier, we use more facts. xD
**The point I am making, no matter the position a person has, in real life or here, there is so much involved to fulling that position. And I think so many members have proven to be incredible leaders. It never ceases to amaze me. At times, I know I disappoint some members. Not everyone will be happy either by what I personally do or say. But, I'll simply continue to further improve myself, and work harder to ensure I minimize any faults that I have.
Once members do not have the trust and respect for *me*, I know it's time to step down (if not removed). At that point, it becomes increasingly tough for me to defend ideas or creations that have proven to work. It basically ruins the image because my name is attached to it. But in the end, I can simply do my best in hopes of providing the best service possible. =)
Sometimes, just sometimes, it may be the person who is the problem-- not the institution itself. But, since we are all biased to a certain extent, some simply will never take responsibility for their own actions.
*coughs*
Please, I do hope anyone responding to this topic reads my entire post. Please, thanks!
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Rules/Foundation / Re: Consequences for Going Over Mastery [vote]
« on: October 27, 2016, 01:30:29 AM »
The first option sounds reasonable.
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Council / Re: Future Council Structure [Discussion]
« on: October 26, 2016, 03:18:38 AM »
I'll be the more blunt voice, because someone has to.
If anyone does not want to be a council member, please, step down now. No one is forcing anyone to do this--- I say this to all current council members. Volunteer work, may it be on here or real life, is not done for any recognition or thanks. People do it because they care, that's it, nothing more to it.
Everyone's hard work on this site, and the forum continues to be greatly appreciated. There are so many members who want to continue to play a role (i.e. by being an active forum member, site member, or being a staff member), hence why I am very critical of Staff's activity/inactivity as well. I'm not shy to hold anyone's feet to the fire, including mine.
Usually, or all of the time, people run for a position, or want to play a more direct role, for a reason (i.e. they run to win, to advance their agenda, or to promote SL in general). If one does not care, then why bother even running? No one is forcing anyone to run to be a council member, or volunteer their time. But as a member, for anyone running in the future, I'll vote for those who care to be on the council-- most of us I assume will. =)
On the side of popular vs. not popular rulings, simply rule in your best judgement. Over the past decade, I have had the brute force of some members, but it is not my job to bend any rules because what I decide is unpopular. The remedy is to change the rules. My job, for example, is to enforce those rules and provide the best advise and judgement possible to Neji, Staff, and Members alike, which may include changing the rules (been done before)... If I *ONLY* stuck to enforcing the rules, a lot would not be done-- so being more involved in helping SL and the members must happen. That goes for any position, any.
And those persons who may be in the minority decision, keep fighting full force. If you are able to justify your position with logic, and simply "rule" in the most fair and least biased manner as possible, members will have so much respect! Personally, I know I do.
With that said, I would recommend a topic be created for the purpose of letting the members vote to either have a council, or not have a council. Eric, I think you have made some good points, but maybe members want a council...I don't know.
If anyone does not want to be a council member, please, step down now. No one is forcing anyone to do this--- I say this to all current council members. Volunteer work, may it be on here or real life, is not done for any recognition or thanks. People do it because they care, that's it, nothing more to it.
Everyone's hard work on this site, and the forum continues to be greatly appreciated. There are so many members who want to continue to play a role (i.e. by being an active forum member, site member, or being a staff member), hence why I am very critical of Staff's activity/inactivity as well. I'm not shy to hold anyone's feet to the fire, including mine.
Usually, or all of the time, people run for a position, or want to play a more direct role, for a reason (i.e. they run to win, to advance their agenda, or to promote SL in general). If one does not care, then why bother even running? No one is forcing anyone to run to be a council member, or volunteer their time. But as a member, for anyone running in the future, I'll vote for those who care to be on the council-- most of us I assume will. =)
On the side of popular vs. not popular rulings, simply rule in your best judgement. Over the past decade, I have had the brute force of some members, but it is not my job to bend any rules because what I decide is unpopular. The remedy is to change the rules. My job, for example, is to enforce those rules and provide the best advise and judgement possible to Neji, Staff, and Members alike, which may include changing the rules (been done before)... If I *ONLY* stuck to enforcing the rules, a lot would not be done-- so being more involved in helping SL and the members must happen. That goes for any position, any.
And those persons who may be in the minority decision, keep fighting full force. If you are able to justify your position with logic, and simply "rule" in the most fair and least biased manner as possible, members will have so much respect! Personally, I know I do.
With that said, I would recommend a topic be created for the purpose of letting the members vote to either have a council, or not have a council. Eric, I think you have made some good points, but maybe members want a council...I don't know.
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Council / Re: Future Council Structure [Discussion]
« on: October 26, 2016, 12:50:11 AM »
*coughs*
Of course there is no incentive for volunteer work. <.<
*coughs*
My posts try to heavily emphasize the point to only assume responsibility if it can be handled.
I don't mind one bit if the council is disassembled and the idea tossed away for good.
On the other hand, I do not mind if it stays. =)
Either way, the site will move on-- with new council members, who there are people who want to serve, or without a council.
This isn't a big issue at all, in my opinion.
Of course there is no incentive for volunteer work. <.<
*coughs*
My posts try to heavily emphasize the point to only assume responsibility if it can be handled.
I don't mind one bit if the council is disassembled and the idea tossed away for good.
On the other hand, I do not mind if it stays. =)
Either way, the site will move on-- with new council members, who there are people who want to serve, or without a council.
This isn't a big issue at all, in my opinion.
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Council / Re: Agenda #4 Alternate Accounts and Biju Fighting (Council Only)
« on: October 22, 2016, 07:37:50 AM »
In this "Council Only" thread, I will post one time to simply to provide a suggestion for a reasonable outcome.
I think the 5th vote should go right to the members.
Create a poll, and have members vote. The members should be heard, in my opinion, for tie breakers for the time being.
Simply a suggestion to keep things moving at a good pace.
I think the 5th vote should go right to the members.
Create a poll, and have members vote. The members should be heard, in my opinion, for tie breakers for the time being.
Simply a suggestion to keep things moving at a good pace.
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Feature Requests / Re: Addition to in-game links
« on: October 18, 2016, 06:12:22 AM »
This should have been done a little while ago.
I'll be sure this is seen by Oliver, thanks!
I'll be sure this is seen by Oliver, thanks!
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Village Square / Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
« on: October 05, 2016, 03:26:54 AM »Then add a time limit?
Time frame to edit post is only 1 hour after. Any after that is DQ.
Here's the thing, no one knows how many times an edit was made.
Once an edit is made, that time stamp clearly overrides the initial post time stamp.
Only practical solution, if people actually find it to be a problem, prohibit editing posts all together for the time being, or for any significant matches. These 5 min or 10 min edit limits do not solve the problem, because as this topic tries to address, it is the trust factor that is in question.
Time limits do not address the concern of the topic, the "problem" would still exist. That is *IF* members see it as a problem. I'm not advocating for limiting, disqualification, etc.
I am simply explaining why a time limit, screenshots, etc. would not work, or address the nature of the topic. =)
The next step after discussions would probably be for the Council to vote.
Now, seeing as how this was not addressed before hand or seen as a potential problem, it will be difficult to implement this now, as it would be unfair to battles that have already started or ended. But, anything is possible if all parties agree. ^_^
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Village Square / Re: Editing posts in Bijuu fights
« on: October 05, 2016, 02:36:14 AM »The solution is a screenshot >>
A person edits, then screenshots, then edits again, does not screen shot, edits again, screenshots...
Well, the proof is of only two screenshots. The burden then remains on the other person to prove another edit was made. Not fair at all to place the burden of proving what was edited and what was not on the other person, obviously.
The author of the topic and others made a completely valid point, not much to discuss... =)
Again, trust factor, premise of the entire topic.