Shinobi Legends Forum
Roleplay => Village Square => Topic started by: Ѕhadow on March 10, 2017, 08:36:13 AM
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The want for bijuu seems to be at an all time low. People who once were involved in the nonsense have been leaving left and right. So I think that now would be the perfect time to ban the bijuu from 'mainstream' rp.
Of course this is just to gauge the current thoughts of the community. In no way will this be 'official'. Just because I don't enjoy hotdogs anymore doesn't mean others shouldn't be allowed to have them. :P
Like I said this is just to see where the community stands on having bijuu now.
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Ban them or keep them?
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Even if this is just an opinion poll, my opinion is to scrap the tailed beasts as entities to be fought over.
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Ban. The system is crappy and they fuel the worst parts of SL
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Ban bijuus and you would have people getting along better. Those who don't want them banned, have something to lose out of all of this. Quite a dilemma here, if anything the division will be between those that want to have on Shinobi Legends and those that want to stack more powers for their character.
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I want them not to be banned, given I myself wish to become a proper Jinchuuriki again, plus have always found it somewhat interesting minus the constant arguing over yada yada yada.
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Regardless of this voting outcome, the individual on SL can still choose to void any mention or interaction with a bijū or jinchūriki or retain the interaction if they so choose.
Kiri already has this 'ban' implemented and has for about a year or so now. It could be considered a safe haven from all the bijū matters as it's isolated from the mainland and their troubles (for the most part).
As long as you're willing to become a part of and benefit the village, all are welcome to flee and join Kirigakure to avoid this broken bijū system!
With that selfish plug in, I voted for banning them from the mainstream.
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At least Shadow stepped down from the council before espousing the removal of the system he's supposed to be overseeing. Yeah this doesn't seem like a conflict of interests at all.
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Keep em. The fighting doesn't occur over biju, it occurs cause a majority of the members on this site can't behave and generally dislike each other.
Banning them isn't fair to those that have them, will just cause a renewed fighting over items instead, etc.
No point in banning them, it's not like the biju are forced participation. You don't have to interact with them. You don't have to go on the forum to debate the topics, you don't have to do anything. People do because they want to, whether they want to admit that or not.
If you don't like the biju, don't get involved in biju matters. Other than that, I see no reason to ban them.
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Keep em. The fighting doesn't occur over biju, it occurs cause a majority of the members on this site can't behave and generally dislike each other.
Banning them isn't fair to those that have them, will just cause a renewed fighting over items instead, etc.
No point in banning them, it's not like the biju are forced participation. You don't have to interact with them. You don't have to go on the forum to debate the topics, you don't have to do anything. People do because they want to, whether they want to admit that or not.
If you don't like the biju, don't get involved in biju matters. Other than that, I see no reason to ban them.
My thoughts exactly. Getting involved with the Biju is a choice everyone is willing to make. Considering they're hardly used on SL, there's really no point to having them banned. Like Trev said, it's not the Biju that's the problem, it's the people. Considering the "fight" for the Biju are between people and not someone actually GMing a beast to fight, the Biju is not at fault.
Don't want to get involved, just don't go out of your way to post on the forum about them. Just because you had a bad experience, doesn't mean you try to remove them entirely. That's like getting angry at McDonalds because you had a bad cheeseburger and now you just want the entire franchise to go down. That's not fair to McDonalds and it definitely isn't fair to the employees. If you don't like their cheeseburger, go to Carl's Jr... they do have better burgers.... of course they're more expensive, but that's the price you gotta pay.
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I kinda have to agree with Jay and Trev. They have little to no impact on the in character aspects of SL at the time being.
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For the record, I haven't really cast my vote on this poll. I merely pointed out my perspective on this subject and really don't want to agree that it should be banned, when it is a key component in forum RP.
Trev brings up a good point with involvement in bijuu matters, which is quite simple. If you like bijuus, by all means keep doing what you're doing with those bijuu-related RPs. If you hate them, there isn't much that can convince you and you could easily exclude yourself from these matters entirely. Simple as that.
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For the record, I haven't really cast my vote on this poll. I merely pointed out my perspective on this subject and really don't want to agree that it should be banned, when it is a key component in forum RP.
A vital component to forum RP? Thats a stretch unless you consider the biju fights as RP.
I can confidently say that items would not be as hotly fought over as biju. Not even the Ninja Swords.
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For the record, I haven't really cast my vote on this poll. I merely pointed out my perspective on this subject and really don't want to agree that it should be banned, when it is a key component in forum RP.
A vital component to forum RP? Thats a stretch unless you consider the biju fights as RP.
I can confidently say that items would not be as hotly fought over as biju. Not even the Ninja Swords.
Not really a stretch, since a separate sub-board was made specifically for bijuu and bijuu fights. If these boards didn't exist, I would be inclined to agree with you. Ninja Swords are highly sought after, but the amount of time and hoops you have to jump to in order to get them is staggering. Bijuu are actually more regulated and easier to challenge for, rather than trying to obtain those SSM swords. I know this for a fact, since I was once a prominent member of the SSM until I got bored with how everything was being handled with the group and the bijuu ban that Kirigakure has put up is what made everything more boring.
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Wut? No attacking Kirigakure with tailed beasts balls? LAAAAAAAAAAAAME!
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For the record, I haven't really cast my vote on this poll. I merely pointed out my perspective on this subject and really don't want to agree that it should be banned, when it is a key component in forum RP.
A vital component to forum RP? Thats a stretch unless you consider the biju fights as RP.
I can confidently say that items would not be as hotly fought over as biju. Not even the Ninja Swords.
Not really a stretch, since a separate sub-board was made specifically for bijuu and bijuu fights...
Almost half if not more of that is legislation, threads calling for some sort of executive action, and OOC biju fights. No tailed beast training or bonding that I can find, no tailed beast rampages, no jinchurikii hunts, etc.
Unless you count the OOC biju battles as RP, then I dont see where you are getting the vital to forum RP bit from.
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For the record, I haven't really cast my vote on this poll. I merely pointed out my perspective on this subject and really don't want to agree that it should be banned, when it is a key component in forum RP.
A vital component to forum RP? Thats a stretch unless you consider the biju fights as RP.
I can confidently say that items would not be as hotly fought over as biju. Not even the Ninja Swords.
Not really a stretch, since a separate sub-board was made specifically for bijuu and bijuu fights...
Almost half if not more of that is legislation, threads calling for some sort of executive action, and OOC biju fights. No tailed beast training or bonding that I can find, no tailed beast rampages, no jinchurikii hunts, etc.
Unless you count the OOC biju battles as RP, then I dont see where you are getting the vital to forum RP bit from.
I vow, if made a Jinchuuriki to properly train in the forums with threads that readers will at least not to be bored to death of.
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It's not the biju themselves that are causing problems but the players who wish to attain them and the manner in which they are attained. Change the system not what its functioning.
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It's not the biju themselves that are causing problems but the players who wish to attain them and the manner in which they are attained. Change the system not what its functioning.
The latter has already been tried at least once if not twice, and the former seems to have changed itself due to burnout.
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Please God get rid of them. It's not like they actually provide anything substantial to SL rp. Want someone to talk to while you RP all alone? Get a summon. Sure people will just move on and try to fight for items, but no one is under any kind of obligation to accept challenges for them, and as far as I know they cannot be tracked.
Eventually there is only going to be one person left who plays with Biju, and then they will claim the ten tails. Sure, that might be cool on paper, but when the guy who has it is a dickhead and actually uses powers that will kill you, it won't be fun and will cause arguments. Nothing good comes from the Biju. You can try and convince yourself that this is almost entirely OOC, but when the Ten tailed Jink comes knocking at your village gates you will be eating those assumptions. Might as well chop off the infected limb now before it spreads to the brain.
It's not like the power boost from the tailed beasts actually amount to anything in the canon. In the Naruto vs Sasuke fight, Sasuke was still able to keep up with nearly everything Naruto did when in Kurama mode. It didn't even look like he was moving any faster or slower when comparing their combat before and after the cloaks activation. In the Boruto movie Sasuke was moving at the same Pace Naruto was, if not arguably faster during the final fight. The power scaling was thrown out the window during the end. So either A.) Remove the beasts entirely, or B.) Remove the concept of using their chakra to make your stuff stronger.
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Please God get rid of them. It's not like they actually provide anything substantial to SL rp. Want someone to talk to while you RP all alone? Get a summon. Sure people will just move on and try to fight for items, but no one is under any kind of obligation to accept challenges for them, and as far as I know they cannot be tracked.
Eventually there is only going to be one person left who plays with Biju, and then they will claim the ten tails. Sure, that might be cool on paper, but when the guy who has it is a dickhead and actually uses powers that will kill you, it won't be fun and will cause arguments. Nothing good comes from the Biju. You can try and convince yourself that this is almost entirely OOC, but when the Ten tailed Jink comes knocking at your village gates you will be eating those assumptions. Might as well chop off the infected limb now before it spreads to the brain.
It's not like the power boost from the tailed beasts actually amount to anything in the canon. In the Naruto vs Sasuke fight, Sasuke was still able to keep up with nearly everything Naruto did when in Kurama mode. It didn't even look like he was moving any faster or slower when comparing their combat before and after the cloaks activation. In the Boruto movie Sasuke was moving at the same Pace Naruto was, if not arguably faster during the final fight. The power scaling was thrown out the window during the end. So either A.) Remove the beasts entirely, or B.) Remove the concept of using their chakra to make your stuff stronger.
I mean you can't track an item, but lets be real here Rus. We both know that a player would just look up who has the item, find them IC, fight then for an obscure reason (like I'm evil and want to fight you). Win, use the mind reading tech, and be like "oh so you had this pretty cool item hidden here, what a neat coincidence"
If the community is really scared of the ten tails that much, nothing is stopping anybody from opening a thread and voting to ban the ten tails. It use to be a biju rule before, and it can be again. If people really dislike it, they should easily be able to pass it. If not, shame on them for not voting, or not everyone shared that sentiment.
But we'll agree to disagree. I think the problem of SL is simply behavior. It's all condensed over biju right now. But it'll spill out over items, attacking villages, wanting a title rank, etc. The prize will be different, the attitudes won't be.
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We've changed the system before and even after that, problems still existed. So changing it again won't do much.
As it stands, there is isn't much of an interest for Bijuu now-a-days. Though that might be because of the behavior of SL or maybe people don't care or maybe its both.
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People have started to care less for bijuu and that's a good thing. Like I said before if people still want to fight for bijuu then let them do it. Just stay out of it and it won't affect you in any way.
Kirigakure if I'm not mistaken has banned them altogether. Or I misheard. Either way that doesn't sound like too bad of an idea. Just go to a village or group that ignores them and you're peachy.
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People have started to care less for bijuu and that's a good thing. Like I said before if people still want to fight for bijuu then let them do it. Just stay out of it and it won't affect you in any way.
Kirigakure if I'm not mistaken has banned them altogether. Or I misheard. Either way that doesn't sound like too bad of an idea. Just go to a village or group that ignores them and you're peachy.
More or less yes they have been banned for idk how long in Kiri.