Shinobi Legends Forum
Game Development => New Features => Topic started by: Neji on April 05, 2008, 07:05:47 PM
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=) as you might have read, the two countries are officially at war...
Restrictions:
-> Enemies cannot enter the other city
-> PvP will be excluding own people (Kage reprimand)
Bonus:
-> Kill enemy nin! Every nin counts, and the party with the most kills will get one shop to move to their home =)
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How do allies work in this?
For instance, can Fire (being allied with sand) enter water?
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shouldn't the login page showing the relations be edited to show that water is against sand?
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Is Rice Field against Mist?
It says Baluski is an enemy in PvP... he's Mist, I'm Sound ._.
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I'll check that.
@doomstar
only the relations from KONOHA are shown.
else there would be more, wouldn't it?
@mihamaru
for now, they stayed out of business, same with Konoha
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I've seen other Mist players, but "(ENEMY!)" wasn't written next to them .-.
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but isnt it like unfair?there are like a billion mist nin and less sand nin .__.
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Will Sound and Fire become involved? :twisted:
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And i think i know what shop from wind the mist nin want...
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Same thing as Hiro happened to me. All mist ninja say (ENEMY!) in red next to them.
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@ENEMY
it should work now. for mist, sand is enemy and vice versa.
Also:
Mist 1274
Sand 1146
<--- sorry, but that seems pretty balanced?
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Question?
If Mist/Sand ninja cannot enter Wind/Water country, that means we are expected to find the Sand/Mist nin scattered everywhere else, correct?
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mh, i expected something like a "town" (battlefield) to travel to, where we can log out, slay and maybe gain more pvps. searching all these scattered nin is a pain. but well, i like it how it is, it's fun too. =)
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So..can't Mist just logout in Water and never be attacked?
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So..can't Mist just logout in Water and never be attacked?
By Sand and water.
Sound and Fire and missing nin can still kill them.
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@ENEMY
it should work now. for mist, sand is enemy and vice versa.
Also:
Mist 1274
Sand 1146
<--- sorry, but that seems pretty balanced?
Nope.
Now it says that Sand are my enemies.
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This is gonna be fun. :twisted:
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oh, and yes...
if you just stay in your city, you won't get attacked.
but if you run out of turns.... or forget to logout and timeout at such a place...
happy slaughtering... ^^
and I presume also some sitters laying themselves in those fields to "get killed" ...
well, let's see what happens.
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So if for example,Sand is allied with Fire,If fire kills a mist nin,does that add up to the total pvp of sand?
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I think so.
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I hope not
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I do not think so.
I think number of successful "Sand v Mist" PvPs will be compared against number of successful "Mist v Sand" PvPs and that will determine the winner.
Again, I think.
I also have had the problem of (ENEMY!) appearing randomly.
I have a Mist character, that logged out in Sand before the war began. I go to "slay in the fields" and I see Lord of SunaGakure with (ENEMY!) (they are a Sand nin), then there was another character that was also a Sand nin (at least according to their bio), but they did not have (ENEMY!) next to their name. Then, in a Sand Dwelling, there was also a char that had "Sand" in the bio, but no (ENEMY!) next to their name.
I'm not sure if it was because they were at a lower DK level or not.
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If we kill them in dwellings if still goes towards our side right? I killed 3 so far I think and none of them had this Enemy thing appear, it looked like a normal pvp.
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If we kill them in dwellings if still goes towards our side right? I killed 3 so far I think and none of them had this Enemy thing appear, it looked like a normal pvp.
That is the question I have also.
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I am from Fire and I killed someone who is from Wind which it says enemy.
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so if a sand nin has a building in water than they cant go to it?
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I don't know why, but everytime I found a mist or sand nin, it says that they are enemy, my character is a leaf ninja. I thought that the war was just between sand and mist. It is a bug or something? :roll:
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so if a sand nin has a building in water than they cant go to it?
Bingo
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well there goes some of my gems.plus i was suprised by the amount of sand that i saw and the fact that i couldnt find any mist nin.oh well maybe another day. :twisted:
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I think number of successful "Sand v Mist" PvPs will be compared against number of successful "Mist v Sand" PvPs and that will determine the winner.
Right.
As for the "I am leaf, and have ENEMY..." <-fixed now
War changes things, keep that in mind.
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Would failed PvPs count towards the opposing side? <<
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Nope. ^^
I am mean.
Therefore, an assault needs to succeed to count as a kill.
But nevertheless: to stop a marauding enemy by laying a sitter in the fields helps.
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Would failed PvPs count towards the opposing side? <<
The opposing side could use that as an advantage. :roll:
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Would failed PvPs count towards the opposing side? <<
The opposing side could use that as an advantage. :roll:
like summoning tons of alts on the other side to attack anybody to alter your pvps >.>
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Would failed PvPs count towards the opposing side? <<
The opposing side could use that as an advantage. :roll:
And break the rules>>
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but if failed attacks dont count then any side's top members (like myself) are basically useless now. I am one of the highest ranked sand, but I often have literally no one period to fight. doesnt anyone else see the flaw in also just allowing an attack on the enemy without any extra penalty aside from the common death? it shud at least count as a point off from that side
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Then people could purposely die to take points/give points to whatever side they favor >_>
That's the flaw with it.
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im not sure if i should petition this ingame but i was attacked by another sand nin.and for the record i am also a sand nin.If it will help the person who attacked me is chuunin Renji
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(on an Mist nin alt) - I was given the option to attack other Mist nin while in dwellings, but not in the fields.
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well i was in a dwelling at the time.
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Dwellings are the problem then:]
We narrowed it down for Neji.
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Then people could purposely die to take points/give points to whatever side they favor >_>
That's the flaw with it.
everybody can obviously see the massive amounts of alts that could appear ._.
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thanks, I'll fix the dwellings.
=)
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Sooo,shoudl we also block all mist from peeping into sand via ze gypsy vice versa?
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at this stage... no, the gypsy is an institution beyond villages.
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Who leads so far?
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Quick question?
If you aren't one of the two villages, and you go into Mist/Sand, it says something about "you may be captured... or wose"
Does that have any significance?
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non-involved stay non-involved until further notice.
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Today the MoTD said that Sand-Nin gets to vote if they want Leaf-Nin to join the war, why cant Leaf-Nin vote if they want to enter the war or not and not be forced into it by thw Wind Country?
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Today the MoTD said that Sand-Nin gets to vote if they want Leaf-Nin to join the war, why cant Leaf-Nin vote if they want to enter the war or not and not be forced into it by thw Wind Country?
oo That makes sense.
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I think IF Sand Nin vote to request Leaf to join, THEN Leaf Nin vote as to whether or not they want to get involved.
First, Sand has to decided if they are going to ask for help.
Then, (if they do) Leaf has to decide if they are going to answer the call.
That is just speculation on my part.
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2 against 1 mist will lose then, kills oro and becomes sand to vote no for help :P
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Or the next alternative is to make Sound team up with Mist for a 2 on 2
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I think IF Sand Nin vote to request Leaf to join, THEN Leaf Nin vote as to whether or not they want to get involved.
First, Sand has to decided if they are going to ask for help.
Then, (if they do) Leaf has to decide if they are going to answer the call.
That is just speculation on my part.
jackpot.
one after the other.
after an official help request is sent, the hokage (me) will most likely ask his jounin+ and so on.
BUT of course there might be a reaction from Mist...
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that makes sense.
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I think IF Sand Nin vote to request Leaf to join, THEN Leaf Nin vote as to whether or not they want to get involved.
First, Sand has to decided if they are going to ask for help.
Then, (if they do) Leaf has to decide if they are going to answer the call.
That is just speculation on my part.
jackpot.
one after the other.
after an official help request is sent, the hokage (me) will most likely ask his jounin+ and so on.
BUT of course there might be a reaction from Mist...
Ooh boy :twisted:
Tau hopes that happens!
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So do all the bored sound people! =3
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wait, couldn't all the mist people switch to sand to vote no, and then switch to mist? o.O
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Yes, but then Mist wouldn't get the help of others>>
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but then, some people wouldn't care seeing as how mist is winning
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Willing to risk a comeback?
Sound can always be bribed into switching to Sand just for the war:]
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But then it would might be 3 on 1 if Sound is bribed into changing to Sand
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wow,pulling others into the war are we? O.o
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War drama is fun :)
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um sound would NEVER help leaf and leaf would NEVER help sound if that happened there would be some kind of fight between the 3 and mist would just watch blankly
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Mioku is right, Sound and Leaf will never be on the same sides since they hate each other. I think Sound will just stay out of thw war.
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We better not>>
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Eh, we Kiri-nin can handle the Sand and Leaf without much trouble....and if Sound does join us, then....whoo boy, look out.
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^^
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or it could somehow turn out to be sand and sound vs. leaf and mist.
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Not anymore:]
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Why does the Leaf want to help the Sand anyway, they tried to kill the Mizukage and since the Leaf is helping the Sand its like the Leaf is trying to kill the Mizukage too
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Politics work that way.
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Why does the Leaf want to help the Sand anyway, they tried to kill the Mizukage and since the Leaf is helping the Sand its like the Leaf is trying to kill the Mizukage too
'Tis all about alliances my boys! :D
Say you had a brother and someone came and started to beat him up, would you just stand there and watch? I would hope not. ^^
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Why does the Leaf want to help the Sand anyway, they tried to kill the Mizukage and since the Leaf is helping the Sand its like the Leaf is trying to kill the Mizukage too
'Tis all about alliances my boys! :D
Say you had a brother and someone came and started to beat him up, would you just stand there and watch? I would hope not. ^^
depends, do I like this brother? >.>
and plus, sound would never ally itself with anybody o.O
come on, isn't sound the village that hates every other village?
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Sound vs. Everyone else! <__<;;
That'd be epic >.>
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I'd join sound! >.>
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Why does the Leaf want to help the Sand anyway, they tried to kill the Mizukage and since the Leaf is helping the Sand its like the Leaf is trying to kill the Mizukage too
'Tis all about alliances my boys! :D
Say you had a brother and someone came and started to beat him up, would you just stand there and watch? I would hope not. ^^
depends, do I like this brother? >.>
and plus, sound would never ally itself with anybody o.O
come on, isn't sound the village that hates every other village?
*coughs*
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*gives tau some cough pills*
im trying to imagine what it would be like if it was a free for all.
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It sure won't be :D
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Sound nin... I see something at the bottom of our task thingies! =3
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xP About time someone else did.
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I'm blind, okay? <__<
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did you also get a war vote?
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We can't tell you >> << >>
We have something <.<
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thanks. -_- well things will be resolved eventually.
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We have something better :)
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well now im starting to get curious.
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I still see this war as completly pointless to anyone really over 200 kills.... there jsut arnt enough people to kill to get points
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Alts^^
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true.plus you could also go and let weaker ninja attack you so you could kill them.
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that doesn't count for the war
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You can KILL the weaker ones then<<
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except you can't ATTACK the weaker ones >.>
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Alts!
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true.plus you could also go and let weaker ninja attack you so you could kill them.
that doesn't count for the war
No, but it might take them out of the game for a bit - so they cannot successfully kill another.
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Very true:]
Make your name Academy Student SabakunoGaara>>
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thank you atomkai
Very true:]
Make your name Academy Student SabakunoGaara>>
one of the oldest tricks in the book.and it helps people increase their attention span.
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except that would only fool weak people, cause I don't think kages can attack acads >.>
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well if the player is inattentive they might just forget about that.
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soo a question,if mist killed some leaf nin,would that go to the warcount?
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soo a question,if mist killed some leaf nin,would that go to the warcount?
Not currently. I do not know if that will change when / if Leaf decides to join Sand.
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When/if Neji wants to help>>
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Wait for MOTDs, I watch the counters.
but at every step, coding is involved, and I am sometimes short on time.
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Wait for MOTDs, I watch the counters.
but at every step, coding is involved, and I am sometimes short on time.
When will the results of the Fire poll be revealed?
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if fire joins sand.will mist nin be able to come into fire?
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My opinion, if Leaf joins Sand, then Mist needs to be able to "sneak" into both countries.
Either a separate mechanism needs to be introduced to facilitate this, or an existing one that has since been closed needs to be reopened.
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Sneak in, ok, but then...? you can't buy openly a thing =)
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Sneak in, ok, but then...? you can't buy openly a thing =)
As long as I can 'hunt'. :twisted:
See another topic along these lines for more information.
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Then sand should get the same option. AS for alts, it would take far to long to train a good enough alt. The war could be over by then. And the name change is a low trick that is cheap and rarely works anymore
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Then sand should get the same option. AS for alts, it would take far to long to train a good enough alt. The war could be over by then. And the name change is a low trick that is cheap and rarely works anymore
Under my scenario (not sure what Neji has in mind) - all nin, regardless of race, would have the same option.
Of course, that is if something along those lines is implemented.
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well i would love to go hunting mist nin in water country.but if that type of module isnt put in than im assuming that mist cant sneak into fire country either right?also is the kill count of leaf and sand added and compared to mist?and if a mist nin kills a leaf nin does the kill count to the mist kill count?
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There are a couple ways I have in mind:D
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Hmm, it would be nice to incorporate rOOt as the new "protectors" of the borders since based off of our Travel map...you need to get through Konoha to travel to either of the countries....
...rOOt's mission could be to eliminate all "threats" (which would be other shinobi's traveling to hostile lands) in protection for their own mission that is in jeopardy if the "The Fourth Great War" will begin do to this current ongoing conflict....
...eh, I'm just brainstorming....I'll be back to edit this so it can make more sense....
:roll:
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That's similar to an idea I had. You could break into an enemy country...but there's the threat of ANBU spotting you...numerous times.
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So... there's gonna be like more wars right 0_o? When's this one end?
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if sound joins sand and leaf then will the only place that anyone will be able to pvp be konoha?Also im not even able to find the vote to hire sound or not so is this a bug or should it be like that?
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if sound joins sand and leaf then will the only place that anyone will be able to pvp be konoha?Also im not even able to find the vote to hire sound or not so is this a bug or should it be like that?
You just have to look closely; the option is there. It's not hidden. :)
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i checked all of the countries and i couldnt find the vote at any of them.
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I can't find it either <_< if it's not hidden can't you just tell us 0_o?
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Ah, my bad. The link is gone now that I've checked for it. I think the poll must be over by now. But it was in the sidebar to the left in the Water Country. -.-
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im talking about the one for wind.given that mist rejected sounds offer.but it might not of been put in yet.thats what im trying to find out.
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the one at water was all the way at the bottom of the left box thingy
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once agian im talking about the war vote for sand.but if this hasnt been put in yet then when will it be put in?
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once agian im talking about the war vote for sand.but if this hasnt been put in yet then when will it be put in?
When the MoTD states it's going to be put in, obviously. ;)
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this is a loooooong waar :D
why dont they get together and make beaches? :'
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Why don't you stick with us in the spam section? <<
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This war is over. =\ 1500(Leaf AND Sand...lawl) to 2300+? Bah, it was two on one too....ah well, c'est la vie.
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i thought it ended on the 28
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It does...he's just saying the war is given up.
Which is completely untrue. *It's not over till the fat lady sings* and the fat lady certainly hasn't sung yet.
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Since the server is, um, innaccesible, does that mean the war is pushed back further?
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Maybe. But like said above, doesn't matter. Leaf and Wind have lost.
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Yes, I will prolongue the deadline accordingly.
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Yes, I will prolongue the deadline accordingly.
Does that work with all deadlines (specificly, the auto-delete ones)?
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Er....Tau, just what could Sand and Leaf hope to do to come back? =\ They rejected the Sound's help, which was kinda foolish of them....and for Sound to jump in now would be silly and pointless.
Sand Faction should simply surrender so we can move on to bigger and better things.
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I think Water, being isolated as it is, should get a shop from each shop from each! :P
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Don't they just get the sympathy shop? >>
Water already has enough shops ._.
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Don't they just get the sympathy shop? >>
Water already has enough shops ._.
Sympathy shop is in Konoha
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I thought Neji said it was created for the winner of the war and will be moved there at the end .-.
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I believe what he said was:
Winner gets to vote on a shop to move from the loser.
Sympathy shop moves to the losing country, replacing the shop they lost to the winner.
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I think Water, being isolated as it is, should get a shop from each shop from each! :P
while it is pretty isolated, I don't think it's enough for 2 shops >.>
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Water has the Old House, the lucky dip, AND the fountains.... Sand has The bestiary (would make no sensefor water country to sell shukaku...) and the tatoo parlor (pretty much useless >_>)... their gonna choose the creature shop <_<
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I believe what he said was:
Winner gets to vote on a shop to move from the loser.
Sympathy shop moves to the losing country, replacing the shop they lost to the winner.
Meh, maybe .-.
Water has the Old House, the lucky dip, AND the fountains.... Sand has The bestiary (would make no sensefor water country to sell shukaku...) and the tatoo parlor (pretty much useless >_>)... their gonna choose the creature shop <_<
Tattoo Parlor isn't useless <<
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well sand and leaf could make a comeback considering that Neji said that towards the end things would be all out.and if that means what i think it means than a turning point will be coming. :twisted:
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I believe what he said was:
Winner gets to vote on a shop to move from the loser.
Sympathy shop moves to the losing country, replacing the shop they lost to the winner.
Meh, maybe .-.
Water has the Old House, the lucky dip, AND the fountains.... Sand has The bestiary (would make no sensefor water country to sell shukaku...) and the tatoo parlor (pretty much useless >_>)... their gonna choose the creature shop <_<
Tattoo Parlor isn't useless <<
Might as well be >_> i mean... except for a few things... but other than that who wants a tatoo? i mean sure if your bored but if your bored then you don't care about travels...
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You don't know the real great purpose behind it.
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Eh well if i think i know what you mean then ... 0_o it's not like i can SAY anyway
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this war was stacked against sand from the start.... most sand are either way down in acads, or like myself, and way up, and cant even attack most people. I have had days where there were literally no players available for me to attack. but like people have said, water will just take the bestiary, and be even more stacked against all other villages
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this war was stacked against sand from the start.... most sand are either way down in acads, or like myself, and way up, and cant even attack most people. I have had days where there were literally no players available for me to attack. but like people have said, water will just take the bestiary, and be even more stacked against all other villages
Um, if there are a lot of acads, that is a good thing, because it is more targets.
Besides, you also got fire and still lost.
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Water has the Old House, the lucky dip, AND the fountains.... Sand has The bestiary (would make no sensefor water country to sell shukaku...)
... there's a shop that sells kyuubi.
ok, that makes no sense at all.
come on, the shop would be huge.
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Quote from: Sasuke X on April 25, 2008, 11:13:11 PM
Water has the Old House, the lucky dip, AND the fountains.... Sand has The bestiary (would make no sensefor water country to sell shukaku...)
Konoha sella Manda.. Orochimaru's snake.
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Good point... but just cause orochimaru used manda doesnt exactly mean it's a Rice Only mount <_< while shukaku was a sand demon >_>
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Wow, planning a bit soon? The end hasn't come yet. Neji said there would be an something towards the end of the war. Who says that Sand and Leaf can't walk right in and slaughter Mist?
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Kind of strange for me that mist is allowed to go to Konoha Gakure btw, as there are pretty much fire + sand nin there
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If you take away Konoha Gakure, they're stranded >>
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Which means, no more player kills.
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seriously, it's not fun not being able to go anywhere unless you have access to a certain place, and I'm not even sure if that place can reach rice >.>
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The war will be over soon enough... =)
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Of course it will, and unless Neji's plan is to double Sand Faction's score at the end, Mist has won.
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unless people are able to sneak into the opposing village which might result in a turning point.besides if people were able to sneak into the village from the start than the scores would be very different.
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i still don't see how that would change the outcome.....
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Mist has 850+ kills more than Sand Faction. Mist has 2 village types to PvP. Sand and Leaf have only a single village type to share...
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And they can kill everyone in that one village.
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you see this kind of outcome in all video games with direct pvp. when one team/player has multiple targets then they get more kills, like back in the day i used to play halo with my cousin. two on one, him vs my friend and i, we would get demolished. its not aht we were not as good, its just that he had more targets, more targets = more potential kills. thats just how it goes. (sorry for the lame halo reference but it seemed the most applicable analogy)
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Mist rejected Sound =) so.... it was their decision.
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And they can kill everyone in that one village.
As Toru said, Sand Faction have one target; we have two. They have to wait for a target to lose the 'attacked too recently' thingy...we have two villages' worth of prey. =\ Mist has won, simple as that.
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And they can kill everyone in that one village.
As Toru said, Sand Faction have one target; we have two. They have to wait for a target to lose the 'attacked too recently' thingy...we have two villages' worth of prey. =\ Mist has won, simple as that.
unless peopel could attack somebody an unlimited amount of times, but then that wouldn't be fair >.>
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Just wait :D
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Bah, I still say it was stacked in Mist's favor
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yes we will see....
i think we can handle it
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Faction Wind Kills: 1923 VS Faction Mist Kills: 2914
Sand has 660 kills! Mist has 2914 kills
Leaf has 1263 kills!
What are we fighting for again? I kinda forgot. :/
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Just wait :D
For what, Sand to roll over and die already? Okay. =\
And Sabaku, Sand had just as much time to start killing in the beginning; it's not the Mist's fault you guys were lazy.
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how was sand lazy?
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if you weren't, what were you doing not getting pks against mist nin?
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uhh yep.Since mist has 2 countries to target,sand is really at an disadvantage.
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uhh yep.Since mist has 2 countries to target,sand is really at an disadvantage.
Well, Sand nin were the ones that asked for help from Fire, their fault. Mist was smart and rejected the offer from Sound. =)
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if you weren't, what were you doing not getting pks against mist nin?
because most of the mist nin were at water country and a lot of sand nin werent in wind country.
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Well....I don't see a turn around to this.
I think Water will win.
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This new system may make things more interesting...
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well its time to find out.....
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The current MotD announces:
For ~24 hours, you will have the benefit of "all kill all" ...
no level restrictions.
no oro kill restrictions...
all village are open, the war is going all-out.
The system is currently not allowing any deviation from the previous "level" restrictions.
Please note that this problem has already been petitioned (dozens of times :shock:) and as soon as Neji becomes aware, I am sure he will address it.
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hehe mist won against leaf and sound
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hehe mist won against leaf and sound
Thanks for the obvious.
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hehe mist won against leaf and sound
Sound wasn't even in the war. .-.