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Title: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on February 24, 2007, 01:55:19 AM
At high ranks it seems as though the level matter more than the dragon kills. Like if you attack someone with 2 more oro kills and one less level you will most likely win. But when facing someone with like 4-6 oro kils less but one level higher you almost always will lose.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Shikki on February 24, 2007, 04:01:37 AM
At high ranks it seems as though the level matter more than the dragon kills. Like if you attack someone with 2 more oro kills and one less level you will most likely win. But when facing someone with like 4-6 oro kils less but one level higher you almost always will lose.

i think its because higher ranks have mroe experience and put their dragon kill points into a wider range making certain aspects to their stats slightly lower but still high whereas newer players simply place all points into either attack or defence
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Sasuke X on February 28, 2007, 01:20:37 AM
At high ranks it seems as though the level matter more than the dragon kills. Like if you attack someone with 2 more oro kills and one less level you will most likely win. But when facing someone with like 4-6 oro kils less but one level higher you almost always will lose.

 I don't really think so... I've never noticed that. I've killed people before with lower DKs than me when they were a higher level and killed them, and i've also killed people with more DKs than me and a higher level. I've also died from people lower levels than me. I think it just depends on your opponent. Their max HP, riposting,attack,defence, and amount of times you attack.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Shukaku on February 28, 2007, 01:23:14 AM
It's hapends at your rank.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: asdfjkl on February 28, 2007, 01:37:53 AM
at the dk count i'm at right now i can't find anyone with less dk's than me :P And i still win but it's because of stats, not dk count or level. Everytime i see someone i can kill thats like 2 levels above me i always i attack him before i get to his level since i'll get more exp that way. But stats matter, not level.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Abysss on February 28, 2007, 04:14:02 AM
About everyone can kill meat my rank XD, .... except Purple :P
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Shinigami99 on March 07, 2007, 11:03:25 AM
At high ranks it seems as though the level matter more than the dragon kills. Like if you attack someone with 2 more oro kills and one less level you will most likely win. But when facing someone with like 4-6 oro kils less but one level higher you almost always will lose.

I have to disagree...
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Lebis on March 07, 2007, 03:04:27 PM
i think its because higher ranks have mroe experience and put their dragon kill points into a wider range making certain aspects to their stats slightly lower but still high whereas newer players simply place all points into either attack or defence

Highly wrong.

I have what.. 3 kills in health. Genin times.

The rest are in attack and defense.

I'm not a newer player either.

I should have.. 80 attack at level 15, and 100 defense at level 15. What does that tell you? Where is the range in my dragon kill balance? No fights? Nope.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on March 08, 2007, 03:27:56 AM
8 DK...120 attack & 103+4 defense (pvp stat).
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: LeafToad on March 08, 2007, 04:59:45 AM
People do spend their DK's on other things not related to attack, defense and HP, like their forest fights. And other people just get boosts on their attack and defense.

So, around 99% of the time, level wouldn't matter, just what you decided to spend your DK's on.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Gyu~ru~ru on March 08, 2007, 08:22:49 AM
Well, for most players, pvp is just a matter of luck. But with enough stat, you can beat that luck. The only thing HP is good for is a better chance of outlasting your opponent and more chances at luck.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Mithras on March 08, 2007, 12:57:28 PM
yeah i experienced that to everytime i started a fight against someone stronger I thought in the first few rounds that iŽll get killed but then somehow I managed to win
well at the end I thought it is only depending on your hp but nonetheless iŽll spend all my dk into attack which is the best defense ;)
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: opop on March 26, 2007, 12:57:39 AM
It must suck at high level or very very good
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: crimsonneji on March 27, 2007, 06:51:40 AM
Don't be hypocrites. You all say you have no one to attack but then you all go sleep in a dwelling so no one ca nfind you. If you want someone to attack then everyone should sleep outside. Then we can all have someone to kill. 

:orcpoursuite:
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Shukaku on March 27, 2007, 01:23:42 PM
Crimsonneji is right, you all say you don't find anyone, well then search harder , im grand hokage and always see atleast one person to attack
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: crimsonneji on March 29, 2007, 12:39:05 AM
Too bad i can't attack you anymore shukaku. You were good competition for me.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Shukaku on March 29, 2007, 01:16:44 AM
I was? Good old times :P
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Elementist on March 29, 2007, 01:38:37 AM
i only pvp to die... :wallbash: :smt073 :orcpoursuite:


*very off topic i guess...*
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on March 29, 2007, 08:36:48 PM
Lol. I try to win.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: crimsonneji on March 29, 2007, 09:59:00 PM
Try being the main word, right Taumaster?
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: LeafToad on March 29, 2007, 11:26:00 PM
Level doesn't seem to matter, and this is why you should spend your DK points wisely. :)
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: crimsonneji on March 30, 2007, 09:47:45 PM
Leaftoad speak the truth. Choose wisely young ones.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Elementist on March 31, 2007, 01:08:09 AM
Leaftoad speak the truth. Choose wisely young ones.


 :smt110 :smt019    is so not a young one....
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Twilight on March 31, 2007, 05:10:41 PM
I was spending most of my points on forest fights and was getting killed far too often. Then I started upgrading my attack an now stand somewhat of a chance. It's still to late to bring my stats up to what I call a fight. Even with my 200-300 to some of these people it's just a slaughter.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Shikki on March 31, 2007, 06:08:35 PM
same here i always find at least one person to kill..... its usually Aptech XD...... poor guy always getting slaughtered......
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: crimsonneji on April 06, 2007, 07:42:05 AM
I wasted 13 dk points too. Neji should make a super super rare event where you can switch what you spent your dk points. The new guys are getting trained by pro's so they don't make mistakes.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Twilight on April 06, 2007, 08:49:30 PM
I wasted 13 dk points too. Neji should make a super super rare event where you can switch what you spent your dk points. The new guys are getting trained by pro's so they don't make mistakes.

In the 20s in forest fights and in the 10s in hp I think that's messed. If the event was as rare as the ink then I would never find it.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Shikki on April 06, 2007, 10:17:58 PM
wasted 16 on hp <.<;;; i agree with crimson ._.; we need an event that lets us switch what we chose for our dk points. but at 1 gem a switch
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: HalfDragonLuka on April 15, 2007, 06:33:19 AM
I think its a good idea to specialize. Just pick something and go with it...
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: KingCyrus on April 15, 2007, 03:21:36 PM
I wasted 13 dk points too. Neji should make a super super rare event where you can switch what you spent your dk points. The new guys are getting trained by pro's so they don't make mistakes.

I completely disagree.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: LeafToad on April 15, 2007, 06:44:55 PM
I wasted 13 dk points too. Neji should make a super super rare event where you can switch what you spent your dk points. The new guys are getting trained by pro's so they don't make mistakes.

I completely disagree.

I completely agree with his disagreement.

There was also a thread pertaining to DK point switching, didn't fan out so well. :\

Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Satehi on April 15, 2007, 07:37:07 PM
I wasted 13 dk points too. Neji should make a super super rare event where you can switch what you spent your dk points. The new guys are getting trained by pro's so they don't make mistakes.

I completly disagree mistakes are your punishments like when you die you stay dead!
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Mihazi on April 17, 2007, 09:04:19 PM
Gyururu and Leaftoad say it all. How you spend your dk and whoever has more att and def will usually win.

You guys want to fix what you have used your dks on?
Heh, too bad. I don't think that's going to happen.  :P

The only probelm with pvping at higher ranks is finding someone around your dk. If everyone slept in the fields like crimson said, it would be much easier, but that isn't going to happen either.

I don't sleep in the fields with Konoho. He is guarding a certain cityhouse or is dead. As for Mihazi, he is just too weak. He doesn't stand a chance in a pvp. I make him hide in the shades like a coward.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Risuku on April 17, 2007, 10:38:39 PM
I wasted 13 dk points too. Neji should make a super super rare event where you can switch what you spent your dk points. The new guys are getting trained by pro's so they don't make mistakes.

though i dont think an event to fix oro points is needed, epecially once kekkei genkai comes around it wont matter, but i do agree that many of the newer people had help in understanding the best way to direct points. is it fair...? does it really matter? is my 2 misspent points on health going to change much? no.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Mihazi on April 17, 2007, 10:53:54 PM
I agree with Risuku. The newer players will be stronger, but we are still ahead. The dk difference is too great. It will take the new players a long time to catch up and kill us. At higher dks, having 5 or 10 less attack or defense isn't going to matter too much in pvp.

Konoho has used all his points on attack and defense and I still get killed by people with less attack and defense.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: asdfjkl on April 18, 2007, 12:39:58 AM
hey what about  me :P 1 dk point on health, 104 on attack and 104 on defense :P Yet i still get beat by shukaku....
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: crimsonneji on May 04, 2007, 06:08:31 AM
I was just saying. I agree with risuku though. I will have a perfect account when kenkei genkei comes. First i'll try to get to 500 dk's though. :o
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Shukaku on May 04, 2007, 02:48:42 PM
hey what about  me :P 1 dk point on health, 104 on attack and 104 on defense :P Yet i still get beat by shukaku....

I know the trick  :P

I was just saying. I agree with risuku though. I will have a perfect account when kenkei genkei comes. First i'll try to get to 500 dk's though. :o

Good luck with that  :shock: your fingers will broke before the 500th kill. ^^
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Twilight on May 05, 2007, 04:58:58 AM
I was just saying. I agree with risuku though. I will have a perfect account when kenkei genkei comes. First i'll try to get to 500 dk's though. :o

Just like what my short term goal is.
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Shikki on May 06, 2007, 12:39:02 AM
hey what about  me :P 1 dk point on health, 104 on attack and 104 on defense :P Yet i still get beat by shukaku....

I know the trick  :P


hell..... even i killed you daily (asdfjkl)
and i wasted 16 on hp when i used to.....
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: crimsonneji on May 07, 2007, 02:28:44 PM
People should stop hiding in dwellings unless your a good person. If your evil sleep outside, scaredycats  :P
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: kboogi on May 07, 2007, 02:46:34 PM
Ok, what was the point of this topic now?!

You guys are going to hate the new village...
 :twisted:
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Demon Bandit Taumaster on May 31, 2007, 01:42:36 PM
I already do
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: thSannin on May 31, 2007, 04:11:04 PM
I already do

me too, since i still haven't got that stupid event  :evil:
Title: Re: PvPing at high ranks.
Post by: Twilight on June 01, 2007, 12:20:46 AM
I love it. It's heaven. I can go there with my 14 play kills from Genin and stay without too much worry. *Dwelling p vs p*