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Game Development => Feature Requests => Shops or other instances => Topic started by: Twilight on March 21, 2007, 12:01:56 AM

Title: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Twilight on March 21, 2007, 12:01:56 AM
I usually find myself with too much gold on my hands. Because of this I try to deposit my gold to the coffers but there is one of two problems. One is that The global limit prevents me from depositing and the other is that it's already full. Due to this I wait until I am at level 15. From there I because I don't lose any progress I then I sleep in the fields after telling someone that I have this much gold on me and am giving it away by letting them kill me. Now not anyone can attack me so I find it a little unfair. So what can I do? It would not make much since giving the same gifts over and over everytime you reach the end of the cycle.

The option I want is to be able to send money to others. It would be like sending gifts to others but in the form of a gift card letting them choose what to get. If they didn't need it they could pass it on to someone else who may be struggling. I think that with this gold would have more use then just a forehead protector and gifts. I see people begging for massive ammounts of gold compared to what the beggars lane could do. I can hold 30000 gold but only 55 can be given away and not just that but a day? From there it goes to Heidi's Place. That depends on level. I don't know how  long it would take to donate that 30000 at level 15. Not only that but just who is it going to? I don't know If I spent that time giving it to one person or lots of people some of which may not even play the game anymore making it a waste.

Therefore I must ask, can we have more control on the money giving?
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: RAIKIRI on March 21, 2007, 12:35:35 AM
it sounds like a good idea but some downsides

people will use this to transfer gold en masse from alt---> main


an alternative is that neji makes teh beggars lane able to give more money
or make a whole different place in which you throw your money in a pit and it is evenly distributed fast and randomly, thus preventing the alt---> to main thing.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: LightKnight on March 21, 2007, 01:31:44 AM
Sounds like a good idea but like Raikiri said,  some people would send all of their extra money from alt to main, so if this happens it's prolly going to be throwing money into a pit.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Lebis on March 21, 2007, 02:02:55 AM
And not just from alt to main. Friends to friends.

A pit.. Splendid idea.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: RAIKIRI on March 21, 2007, 02:22:42 AM
maybe heidi can run two stores now..

one for small donatiosn and candlees, and one for a giant  money get-rid pit in which you are allowed to dump all money on hand and split around randomly by the server.

Everyone like that?
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: NaraLong on March 21, 2007, 02:25:45 AM
i like the "pit" idea-ish thing...but it's a bit unrealistic

"The charity hall"
A) Donate gold
B) Leave

If A), you get a "Donate how much?" box to type in numbers
then in the morning, x random people receive 100 gold each, where x is the amount of donated money/100 (there are a LOT of people who play this game, it's kinda lame to give everybody one gold piece or something :P)

"You have recieved 100 gold from the generosity of <insert donator here>!"

perhaps something like that?

also, i suggest you get a cityhouse :P it always worked for me until i became a sannin, (at which point i made too much money to deposit) in which case get a castle ^^

you can also try to deposit gold continuously, every game day, as opposed to waiting until you're level 15 (at which point you can only deposit 9k in one day)
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: RAIKIRI on March 21, 2007, 02:32:15 AM
i happen to like my pit idea >.<

lol, your idea is good too.

One thing, i think that anoymousy is better when donating. its not practical for someone to be tehre and write down every person who donates keeps track of their gold and who it went to,

The "pit" was only an example, i wasnt planning an event

your charity hall should be donate all money or leave as we already have heidi and lane for less money donations.

I think the main thing Twilight is asking for is a way to get rid of ALL his gold fast, without wasting it, and before an oro kill.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: NaraLong on March 21, 2007, 02:34:38 AM
i think that wouldn't be a very complicated automated system, it wouldn't require a person (correct me if i'm wrong, i have *very* little programming experience)
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: RAIKIRI on March 21, 2007, 02:38:58 AM
i meant an npc.

think its just not practical


When someone donats their money, in order to know who donated it it
A. needs to be put in a box with their name on it (lots of boxes if everyone donates.)
B. A npc must keep track persoanlly of the gold, which is also impractical.

imagine how many people/boxes required with the insanely big amounts of money donated every  hour...

Not ver realisitic either.

but lets not spam this toppic with discussion between the two ofus, if you wish to contineu to argue, pm me.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Neji on March 21, 2007, 09:06:23 AM
There is a reason why money transfers are not allowed, it is already stated in this thread...

Multis are allowed here, so transferring is prohibited.

I could say Multis not allowed, then we can allow transferring money and also larger donations between chars.

But this is not really an option.

Why do you, with all that money, don't use the money sink -> forehead protector

?

No beggars lane will give more money, it is one-time a day for a purpose.

Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: RAIKIRI on March 21, 2007, 11:21:38 PM
so neji, why not make another money sink? This one instead of helping  you personally, it divides the money and sends it to acads and people who need it?

Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Shukaku on March 21, 2007, 11:30:05 PM
That one of the reasons why i don't like Multi, it makes this game too limited.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Neji on March 21, 2007, 11:38:47 PM
sure, buff up the poor acads (who should beg) and also who can be invited into your house and use the chest...

in my active player days, it was what I did... you search for somebody to look up to, he supports you with his house and money, and then once grown, etc etc

good days happy after.

=)

another money sink? ok, I can do that, but only a sink, no benefit at all ;)

let's see.... how about a "donate the hidden village" thingy? :)
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: RAIKIRI on March 21, 2007, 11:40:43 PM
that sounds good for those who want to give some moeny to the poor^^

I didnt mean restrict it only to acads, we kages need money too  :twisted:
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Shukaku on March 21, 2007, 11:45:47 PM
Just make a beggars lane but that don't give other players money, like a deep deep well ^^ go ahead and throw your money.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: RAIKIRI on March 21, 2007, 11:48:40 PM
Teh whole point of this topic was to get rid of your money fast without wasting it shukaku-_-

if we just dump our money, why not just die with money on hand or kill oro directly?
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Twilight on March 22, 2007, 01:06:03 AM
I think the main thing Twilight is asking for is a way to get rid of ALL his gold fast, without wasting it, and before an oro kill.

Well the forehead protector does this but it's not what I'm looking for. I want to help others in some way rather than myself.
The pit sounded good.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Mithras on March 23, 2007, 03:06:31 PM
Well first of all:
 :oops: I have an urgent need for money :oops:
to come back to the topic: isn´t it possible to donate money into this pit thingy but then on three days a week (or sth similar) give all of it by luck to the 25% of the poorest guy´s ingame (hall of fame)
this would be really cool getting a note that you found a chest full of gold and then get more than 10000 *is beginning to dream*
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Shinobi on March 23, 2007, 03:12:43 PM
The poorest guy in the hall of fame, eh? Well.. If you look at his cash, I really don't think 10,000 will help much. >.>

Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Mithras on March 23, 2007, 03:31:41 PM
Off topic for discussing the reasons
In my case it would help quite a lot because when I reach lvl 15 I maybe have left sth like 2k~3k
and with a 10k donation I would have 12k left  :shock:
On topic
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: RAIKIRI on March 23, 2007, 11:21:04 PM
no mithras, taht wouldnt work. I think spreading it evely is better as some of us have BIG HUGE debts racked up in the bank and we would  technically be poorest, thus getting money time after time.

besides, all we really need is somewhere to dump excess money that coffers wont contain and dump them, knowing they're going for a good casue.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Twilight on March 25, 2007, 10:45:23 PM
Level 4 and already 4000 I put in the coffers. And it grows even further.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: opop on March 26, 2007, 03:00:28 AM
Just a idea but what about shop that lets you throw all your money into it and its devided in half the spread out to all members of the game and it  when it reaches 100 gold it goes to the people (of cours this would take awaile )  aCCORDING TO HOW MUCH MONEY USALLY HAVE its 20,000 dived of course 10000 with a bout 4000 members 2.5 gold no rounding up un til last 99.? if posible
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: LeafToad on March 26, 2007, 03:05:37 AM
Just a idea but what about shop that lets you throw all your money into it and its devided in half the spread out to all members of the game and it  when it reaches 100 gold it goes to the people (of cours this would take awaile )  aCCORDING TO HOW MUCH MONEY USALLY HAVE its 20,000 dived of course 10000 with a bout 4000 members 2.5 gold no rounding up un til last 99.? if posible

A shop that gives out free money to everyone in the game? Not even in an rpg. >>
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: opop on March 26, 2007, 03:09:39 AM
Just a idea but what about shop that lets you throw all your money into it and its devided in half the spread out to all members of the game and it  when it reaches 100 gold it goes to the people (of cours this would take awaile )  aCCORDING TO HOW MUCH MONEY USALLY HAVE its 20,000 dived of course 10000 with a bout 4000 members 2.5 gold no rounding up un til last 99.? if posible

A shop that gives out free money to everyone in the game? Not even in an rpg. >>
There is free money in thsis game beggars lane and somtimes i wake up free money 100 gold


EDIT
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What if its fractioned more like 1/4  then with approximate ly 4000 members its 1 rounded down
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: LeafToad on March 26, 2007, 03:28:22 AM
There is free money in thsis game beggars lane and somtimes i wake up free money 100 gold

There is free money for those that beg for it, just like in real life. And you wake up with money on the new day from a shop that already has your idea in place(but to a lesser extent) I believe.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: opop on March 26, 2007, 03:31:05 AM
There is free money in thsis game beggars lane and somtimes i wake up free money 100 gold

There is free money for those that beg for it, just like in real life. And you wake up with money on the new day from a shop that already has your idea in place(but to a lesser extent) I believe.
you can say........................ and get money big deal >.<
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: LeafToad on March 26, 2007, 03:53:56 AM
There is free money in thsis game beggars lane and somtimes i wake up free money 100 gold

There is free money for those that beg for it, just like in real life. And you wake up with money on the new day from a shop that already has your idea in place(but to a lesser extent) I believe.
you can say........................ and get money big deal >.<

What?
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: opop on March 26, 2007, 04:54:42 AM
You can say,  " ...... "  and get gold in the beggars lane.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: RAIKIRI on March 26, 2007, 05:04:02 AM
so? thats  because ... is still begging...

anyways, thats what i said before, a pit to dump your money in which the money gets spread out for those who need it or randomly.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: opop on March 26, 2007, 05:05:35 AM
so? thats  because ... is still begging...

anyways, thats what i said before, a pit to dump your money in which the money gets spread out for those who need it or randomly.
Yeah I like it but it need to be in a small evry one get some thing that gets release evry day or so
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Twilight on March 27, 2007, 07:13:13 PM
so? thats  because ... is still begging...

That bugs me. They don't deserve it if they can't even really beg.

I got over 100000 gold today and there is still a game day left.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: RAIKIRI on March 28, 2007, 12:32:55 AM
yet if you think of real life, people dont have to say anything to be begging, if they sit on the side of a street and looks tatterly and weathered, many people will drop money down.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: opop on March 28, 2007, 12:44:54 AM
yet if you think of real life, people dont have to say anything to be begging, if they sit on the side of a street and looks tatterly and weathered, many people will drop money down.
True. what if they sign up for this in the beggars lane and theres a sort of hall of shame for said people
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Twilight on March 28, 2007, 03:23:42 AM
yet if you think of real life, people dont have to say anything to be begging, if they sit on the side of a street and looks tatterly and weathered, many people will drop money down.

Well, yeah. I would be one of those people even though I would expect them to try for it.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: ShadowSasukeSith on May 27, 2007, 03:48:17 PM
Instead of just a pit, or headbands (since they have no use anyways) try a pit but with the following exception.

"You deposoit x gold into this endless pit, and you can't help but wonder if it goes to some poor person. You feel charming.
+x Charm.

Formula for this charm: For every 15,000 gold donated you gain 1 charm. Its only accessible after you reach level 10.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Twilight on June 01, 2007, 12:10:16 AM
Eh... That's like 3 charm a day if you stay at level 15. Maybe more..
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: RAIKIRI on June 01, 2007, 02:58:44 AM
Neji will probably say no due to the insane gainage of charm...

to those who adore charm and are at around Grand Hokage... money is nothing
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Shikki on June 02, 2007, 07:02:40 PM
Eh... That's like 3 charm a day if you stay at level 15. Maybe more..

i can get that easy...
just suicide for all your turns ._.
hell i can get that money before lvl 3 ._.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Camel on June 02, 2007, 07:14:17 PM
This was shot down.
Don't revive it please. -.-
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Lebis on June 02, 2007, 09:15:19 PM
Revive? The last post was two days ago. I don't think it was dead.
Title: Re: An Advanced Beggars lane/Heidi's
Post by: Darkwind on June 08, 2007, 02:00:40 PM
Simple man's thoughts here, who cares, we all struggled for gold in the beginning and now I have 3/4 of a mill in the bank, buying charm is silly.  Just buy the head protector or lose it after the kill, doesn't really matter.  And adding to coffers only does you so good, if you never need the money in the coffers, then you just have no place to put it when you hit the 100K limit, and oh by the way, you can't even withdraw all of the gold in your coffers in one game day.  Sillyness I say.