Shinobi Legends Forum
Game Development => Feature Requests => Topic started by: santachi on March 28, 2008, 11:47:24 PM
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I was thinking if we could have our own shops. You could put items in it that you could sell to the merchants. You could also sell gems for money or vis-versa. I put a pole in for people that think its a good Idea or not.
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There's already a merchant.
And you shouldn't be able to buy gems / gold / or other advantages for money, kyuubi is enough.
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Can be used as a form of items/gems transfer. One can simply set the price to minimum & quickly buy it with another character. Not a good idea.
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Maybe not gems then.
But what about items? You could open your own shop (for a set amount of gold and gems) and you could sell items that you have.
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You mean sell items for more items 0_o cause selling them for gems can still be used to gain gems .-. Maybe item trading like 2x Kunai for an exploding tag or something .-.
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Selling items for gold/trading items.
People can't sell items for gems. So..items like the Rune Bracelet can be sold...but only for gold.
This way, people will still need the merchant for selling things.
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but it still could be used as a cheap but still more complicated way for gem transfer.Heres an example:
the person sets a low price for an item that could be sold to the merchant for gems. the person gets on an alt and buys the item. then they just wait for the merchant event.
the alt transfer problem could be fixed to some extent by making it so the shop is only open while the owner is online but that could still be used for gem transfer.
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That's why items can not be sold for gems at these shops ;)
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no what i am saying is that the person sells an item that can be worth gems at a low price to an alt then the alt just waits for the merchant event.and there it is a somewhat complicated gem trade.
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Maybe....not able to sell items that cost gems...at all?
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I suggested item trading a while ago.
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Was it denied?
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Was it denied?
For the same reason as this one.
Can be used as a form of items/gems transfer. One can simply set the price to minimum & quickly buy it with another character. Not a good idea.
Honestly, if they are gonna shoot down ever idea because of this, what would be the point of rule 3?
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I would like to see people trading the SST ink
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I would like to see people trading the SST ink
That could be one of the items you can't trade ...like the Bracelet and etc.
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We already talked about, with a trading area, same reasons in play etc.., it was shoot down and burned then eaten by Neji
Its a no go
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Even items for gold only, it can be used to transfer gold. Example, open a shop & put 1 kunai on sell for a large amount of gold then buy it with another character who has a lot of gold.
For the same reason as this one.
Honestly, if they are gonna shoot down ever idea because of this, what would be the point of rule 3?
1) To prevent players from abusing features that are vital/important to the game. Like donations & marriage.
2) What's the point in adding a feature that would most likely be abused by 80% of the players? When that happens, there are only 2 choices, remove the feature or ban the 80% players who abused it.
Such feature requests are only possible if,
1) No multi-character allowed. 1 character per e-mail/IP address & that's it.
and
2) All mankind become saints.
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So the stuff you buy in "loot" from the traveling salesman?
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Or Anko's Workshop.
Or simply use it.
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Yea I think this is a good idea as on item trader not for gold or anything just items, espicially now that Anko is around I am always looking for more forging items.
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was shot down already
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It may have been shot down but I was thinking...
Barter's Lane
Location:Undetermined
Availibility:Sannin+
You walk in to a small alleyway where you see several small shops set up and several questionable characters walk around. A man catches your eye and walks over to you, "Hello i'm Gibbs, and welcome to my Bartering Lane! Feel free to browse through the shops you just may find what your looking for!" With that he walks off scolding someone for trying to sell a "Forbidden Item". You get the feeling that if you try to trade or sell a "Forbidden Item" here you would lose the privilige to come here. You see a sign that says "NO GOLD NO GEMS ONLY TRADES!"
From here there would be a chat area (Similar to any town square). Here you could post what your looking for and what your willing to trade for it. On the side of the page there would be all the listings of the items for sale. Despite Gibbs no gold no gems only trades sign you discover that listing an item costs 100 gold. So be careful with what you list! You would click the item you are looking for and a list of the people selling it would pop up, you would then be prompted to send an mail to the person proposing what you can trade. you may recieve an mail back or you may not thats the price you pay!
Now then, everyone must pay a fee in order to open Barter Lane up, say 3 gems 1000 gold?
Im only proposing this because I dont see anyway this can be exploited.
Leave some feedback! :cool:
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no. 80 % will abuse this -Main sells item to alt far an insane price
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Honestly, you people act like if we ever get an option to really interact with other people in-game, we're gonna use it for alts.
By that logic, why not eliminate the PVP system, because even though the game can still track alts somehow, it may be wrong and you may attack so that one account can get free exp!
And get rid of marriage, because that has a buff that can be used to help an alt!
OH!
And get rid of the gold storage in dwellings!
Because of course no one uses them to save gold from an Oro kill! No, we all use them to help our alts!
And while we're at it, let's get rid of the donation point transfer system! I mean hell, it's not like the mission headquarters are filled with people with no alts who wants points that we can help! No, all the donation point transfers are made to alts, right?!
Christ people! You act like we're gonna mess up everything you give us to the point where it must be taken away!
Seriously, there is a module that allows the server to recognize alts! What is the point of having it if you aren't gonna use it to prevent this kind of thing, instead of acting like we're all gonna mess up!
You may now commence with the multiple of flaws in my logic, and the reasons why my opinions are worth total crap.
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I agree ;P And why shouldn't we transfer DP on accounts, they're all earned by US anyway, we earned them ourselves so we should be allowed to do that :P
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Neji as I stated before No gold no gems would be allowed, only items on items (No special ink read my event). Also how many alts would be willing to go through this process to get 1 soldier pill, or a few kunai? I know I wouldnt! I might occasionly need an item for forging though and this is where this event my come in handy.
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Neji as I stated before No gold no gems would be allowed, only items on items (No special ink read my event). Also how many alts would be willing to go through this process to get 1 soldier pill, or a few kunai? I know I wouldnt! I might occasionly need an item for forging though and this is where this event my come in handy.
Which is why I asked the last time.
After buying the triple kunai recipe, I went 20 Oro kills without seeing a single kunai.
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An item for item thing would be a good idea. Seems fair and people can't really cheat this...
Oh no! He traded his kunai for a poison kunai! Ban!!!
Yeah..doesn't seem like a much cheating there.
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kunai for chouji's soldier pill?
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Still..it's an item. I think there's about a 400-ish gold difference. 400 gold is a lot less than most people transfer from their alts to their mains in dwellings.
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make it so that items reated from anko can't be traed either then.
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Seriously, there is a module that allows the server to recognize alts! What is the point of having it if you aren't gonna use it to prevent this kind of thing, instead of acting like we're all gonna mess up!
Down to the basics ;)
I ban almost every week people who circumvent the protection (which is only a tiny one, really) to attack their alts/shift dp to their main/etc. Just for fun.
The gem store was heavily abused in the castles. I never thought somebody would make alts this high, but I was wrong. There was a whole gang of gem-shifters. Gems got paid with DP at that time.
Now, tell me again that people won't really abuse it? And that preventing this is secure? Oo
It would imbalance stuff greatly, "hey, I make my alt buy all items when I am on level 1, so I get TONS of gold and be level 15 right away! Best weapon+armor"
So you say I should limit the buys to user-level +1 maybe? Then we can talk, because all your money would not be of use. =)
400 gold for an item might be too small, and really, if you all do not use the advanced items, where is the point in selling items really? Oo are you that poor? I doubt it.
Also, the mass does the trick. Sell 10 items a day, 4k gold. also limit on that? wow, we are limited everything.
It is VERY tedious to track down people who try and sometimes succeed to circumvent the rules.
It is *much* better to prevent it by not allowing it.
You can interact with other chars... limited.
PvP has a chance you get killed in the attempt.
Marriage is also tedious to get.
And so on.
I am open to REASONABLE suggestions, but I fail to see it here in this one.
The merchant grabs your items, so go there?
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How about increase the frequency of the merchant to sell only (player selling to the merchant).
I cannot tell if people want a way to get rid of their items for compensation -OR- if people want a way to acquire more items.
If it is the former, an increase in the frequency of a "sell only" type merchant might fill that request.
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Well hears what I have in mind.
I want a Choujis Yellow Soldier Pill!
Unfortunatley im missing one of the ingredient, btu I have an abundance of BLAH BLAH.
Well why dont I go to Barter Lane and see if anyone has one for sale?
If they do ill pm then and make a possible trade.
Something along those lines =)
Maybe make it so that a person can only buy/sell trade 2 times every gameday?
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Then we should make a general item shop ;) for loot items.
who has everything.
but to trade with players is ... err... bad? as I explained.
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I see your logic Neji :P
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I would totaly trade with my alt, im being honest I would abuse!
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Its probobly been a wile since anybody's read this but did me saying that start the war so neji could put the shop in?
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This sounds like a pretty good idea, especilaly since I could sometimes use health over wealth.And where is this merchant I've heard of? :-?
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I will not make own shops for this. =)
The abuse risk is far too great, I already stated that.
With allowing alts, there is a certain risk to it.
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To prevent mains from buying items that are sold to the merchant for gems from alts that sell em for dirt cheap, you could have items that are traded cannot be sold to the ninja merchant.
Also only allow items to be sold for a higher price than they can be sold to the ninja merchant, but have a cap for how much higher it can be sold. (say item x sells to the ninja merchant for 300 gold, well to be sold to other players, it must be sold for AT LEAST 300 gold, but the highest being only a few hundred more, so the highest it could be is 500 or 600)
And there could be a limit to 1 buy and 1 sell per game day.
I don't see how that could be exploited, if it could, lemme know how.
I think it would be cool to have a bidding thing for people to sell sst ink, allowing gems to be used, since ink ain't that easy (no I'm not serious about this last part, although it would be funny to watch people freak out over the ink)
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Gladly.
500 gold extra per day? cool, I would immediately sell my own stuff from my main to my alts :)
even 1 per day.
this can and will be abused, I can give you that in writing.
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but it would only be 200-300 gold.
And that's like less than a forest fights worth.
I don't see the practicality in spending the extra time exploiting multi-char to do something that can be done in a few seconds normally.
I don't know, I'm just brainstorming mostly.
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if you're out of forest fights?
200-300 gold? that's almost the next weapon level....
you need to think more like somebody with no life =)
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if you're out of forest fights?
200-300 gold? that's almost the next weapon level....
Um, at weapon level 1-3.
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if you're out of forest fights?
200-300 gold? that's almost the next weapon level....
you need to think more like somebody with no life =)
I think that somebody with no life wouldn't have problems getting 200-300 gold.
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And it's possible to deposit and withdraw from dwellings >>
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Neji, is that what you think of your loyal subjects?
That we have no life?
I'm reborn!
Although there are quite a few others, most people aren't, and I'm a busy man.
200-300 gold isn't that big a deal.
The only reason you would have the higher thing, is if you wanted to buy a slightly more costly item from someone else's shop.
Seriously, Neji.
Edit: Erased the last part, because I didn't want to offend anyone, (and wasn't needed).
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Seriously, Neji.
I know you're tough, but even Stalin showed mercy every now and then (albiet very little, and no... I'm not calling you Stalin)
Bad idea to mention Stalin to a German.
I'm no history buff, so you can ignore me, but i think that would be like calling an american Osama.
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I didn't know Neji was German.
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I didn't know Neji was German.
Look, one thing to know before you post a request.
If you get something for nothing, it gets shut down.
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what do you mean by that?
I probably wouldn't use the feature, i'm just trying to come up with solutions.
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what do you mean by that?
For instance, if you get a benifit without the risk of losing something.
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Well how about something in the vain of this:
10% when you buys something.
While handing over your [insert gold amount here] to [insert vendor name here] for a shiny new [insert item name here], you sense something not right.
Out of the blue, one of Hanazaki's thieves grabs your [insert gold amount here] before you can give it to [insert vendor name here]. You get up and run after the thief, but slip in a puddle of water, allowing the scoundrel to escape.
There could also be a charge for opening the shop, like 5000 gold and 15 gems. (or more, doesn't really matter to me)
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so a free level 3 weapon for starters? =) at level 1, with nothing done in the forest, and NO dwelling withdrawals.
you have to sum it up, it makes a difference.
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so a free level 3 weapon for starters? =) at level 1, with nothing done in the forest, and NO dwelling withdrawals.
you have to sum it up, it makes a difference.
um, you get like 1000 gold right at the begining, so you can buy level 3 weapon.
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so a free level 3 weapon for starters? =) at level 1, with nothing done in the forest, and NO dwelling withdrawals.
you have to sum it up, it makes a difference.
Yes, but after just a few orochimaru kills, I wouldn't buy weapons until i could afford the best ones (It doesn't matter since i've been reborn).
Because Unless a person uses all of their points on forest fights, odds are, he won't have a problem in the forest until a higher level.
And there could be a Orochimaru kill requirement, just like the clans.
(by the way, I'm not trying to sound ungrateful. I realize all the things you do for this game take up an incredible amount of your time, and effort. So thanks, the site gives me something to do when I'm stuck at home, and keeps me from going insane.)
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this idea ain't goin' in dude.