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Roleplay => Village Square => Topic started by: Akasaka Rakudo on November 26, 2013, 08:41:59 PM
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Update time! Now I do want to strip Yujo! I responded to this message almost ten days ago and Yujo has not been on. He seems to just want to say the fight is over, which is fine if he wants to give me the three tails, if not I have a problem with that. He clearly states he can get online if he wants and I told him before I am willing to wait, so can I just strip him after a fortnight like was mentioned before?
How is it pending? We're in the middle of it. You can call the forfeit whatever you like but it means I get the three tails.
---Original Message from Uzumaki Yūjō(2013-11-17 21:43:28)---
So, the move jacked my net up, the repair guy broke a phone line, and now my net is going to be turned off for another few weeks! (So happy about that BTW). Considering that now I have to go to a nearby library to get online at all, I'm going to cancel my pending challenge for your Bijuu, as the obligation to post cannot be carried out. Basically speaking, the challenge is off, Voided. My apologies, and I hope your conquest is fruitful. GTG. Bye.
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Just take the damn thing already.
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Just take the damn thing already.
I would, but then in 5 months someone will tell me I didn't follow the obscure by-law of wearing a purple scarf when I take someones bijuu or something and it will be voided. That's the only reason I post these things.
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Just take the damn thing already.
I would, but then in 5 months someone will tell me I didn't follow the obscure by-law of wearing a purple scarf when I take someones bijuu or something and it will be voided. That's the only reason I post these things.
You see, that's where you got it wrong. It's not a purple scarf, it is a grey scarf...
All jokes aside, it is starting to sound like he challenged you rather than the other way around. Which I find a little confusing.
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From what Yujo told me, he challenged Rakudo to a death match OOC. So, they could both still die IC but the battle itself wasn't IC. They got halfway through it and then Yujo had to move and whatnot. Now he wants to void it and has a good reason to do so. So, since he's the challenger, I don't see why not.
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A death match OOC and a biju challenge would have been two different categories. I don't see how the biju would be up for grabs for either of them.
Either the grey scarf is not in your favor, or there are some missing details of how it's being worn.
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From what Yujo told me, he challenged Rakudo to a death match OOC. So, they could both still die IC but the battle itself wasn't IC.
As in they could participate in other RP and if they died then or got their bijuu stripped, the match would void?
Kind of dumb. Wait, no. Very dumb. So dumb that it's a damn good cover up.
Moving on-- Yujo said he had access to hop onto the computer. "A nearby library", to be exact.
"So, the move jacked my net up, the repair guy broke a phone line, and now my net is going to be turned off for another few weeks! (So happy about that BTW). Considering that now I have to go to a nearby library to get online at all, I'm going to cancel my pending challenge for your Bijuu, as the obligation to post cannot be carried out. Basically speaking, the challenge is off, Voided. My apologies, and I hope your conquest is fruitful. GTG. Bye."
By the way, how does a move take weeks? If you don't do it within a week, you're a terrible person at managing time.
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Yujo challenged me for the 6 tails, and it is supposed to be an IC fight, so he put the 3 tails up, and I put up the 8 tails. So it was just all the bijuu on the line, and our lives, in this fight. It was a Bijuu unification match or something, I guess. It was bijuu fight IC, so we could do other rp until it is over, but it is still IC.
Like Rai pointed out he can still get on the computer, he just doesn't want to, so if he isn't willing to defend his bijuu he'd be stripped anyway. I'm only getting it here because you could consider both of us the challenger in this fight for each other's bijuu.
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Not really. The challenger is the one who challenges someone else for something. This time, it's just that Yujo had more to give up than his rep and possibly life.
You can only do so much on the library's computers, depending on how long you have to be on them. While taking his time posting can be defended, if he can't fulfill the obligation to post a reply to Rak (which he doesn't need to be online in order to come up with) then he also couldn't really comply with posts in passive-post challenge periods that were recently thrown up.
In other words, it's looking like a lose-lose situation for Yujo. Only thing is where the golden ticket goes.
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7 years ago the public computers gave you a total of 2 hours (2 sessions of one hour [which didn't stop someone from having multiple library cards for extra hours]) per sit-down to regulate everyone getting a chance. So. Long. Ago.
Pretty sure it's longer now.
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Not really. The challenger is the one who challenges someone else for something. This time, it's just that Yujo had more to give up than his rep and possibly life.
You can only do so much on the library's computers, depending on how long you have to be on them. While taking his time posting can be defended, if he can't fulfill the obligation to post a reply to Rak (which he doesn't need to be online in order to come up with) then he also couldn't really comply with posts in passive-post challenge periods that were recently thrown up.
In other words, it's looking like a lose-lose situation for Yujo. Only thing is where the golden ticket goes.
I don't really care to kill Yujo or not, I just want the three tails. :p
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The three tails is the golden ticket I was talking about.
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The three tails is the golden ticket I was talking about.
And I was referring to you saying Yujo could be losing his life.
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What's a library?
Us country folk ain't got none those.
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What's a library?
Us country folk ain't got none those.
A library is a special place of research. You can research using books, computers, or people. Schools almost always have libraries, as that gives their students the ability to complete anything requiring research.
They also possess fictional works to fuel the imagination. Man, I remember when I went tot he library frequently; I was a lot more fluent in the creative arts.
Of course, you can find some pretty decent people at the library too. It's all in the timing.
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From what Yujo told me, he challenged Rakudo to a death match OOC. So, they could both still die IC but the battle itself wasn't IC. They got halfway through it and then Yujo had to move and whatnot. Now he wants to void it and has a good reason to do so. So, since he's the challenger, I don't see why not.
Also, this ^ is apparently considering "I don't want to go to the library to post." as a good reason to void the fight. Even if I had to wait a month for him to finish moving I would, so there isn't any reason for him to void it. I told him I was more than willing to wait for him to finish his move.
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---Original Message from Uzumaki Yūjō(2013-11-17 21:43:28)---
So, the move jacked my net up, the repair guy broke a phone line, and now my net is going to be turned off for another few weeks! (So happy about that BTW). Considering that now I have to go to a nearby library to get online at all, I'm going to cancel my pending challenge for your Bijuu, as the obligation to post cannot be carried out. Basically speaking, the challenge is off, Voided. My apologies, and I hope your conquest is fruitful. GTG. Bye.
That line right there should be the instant solution for this problem, shouldn't it? He admits he can not fulfill the obligation one needs to carry a bijuu, so therefore he should no longer have the bijuu, correct? Or am I missing something which negates that line?
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The issue is that he is in the middle of a fight with me and both of our bijuu are on the line. I want his bijuu. He's going to lose it regardless I am just saying it should go to me.
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As long as his bijuu was clearly on the line during the fight, I see no reason why you shouldn't get it.
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As long as his bijuu was clearly on the line during the fight, I see no reason why you shouldn't get it.
Me either, but nothing is allowed to be easy here. :p
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As long as his bijuu was clearly on the line during the fight, I see no reason why you shouldn't get it.
Me either, but nothing is allowed to be easy here. :p
I'm all for you snagging his bijuu.
3-?.
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As long as his bijuu was clearly on the line during the fight, I see no reason why you shouldn't get it.
Me either, but nothing is allowed to be easy here. :p
Well, it's not like Yujo is personally here on the forum to speak for himself, so it would only seem right to at least try to flesh things out a bit. We're pretty backwards at times, but I think we still owe people a fair shot at least.
Unfortunately at this stage of the conversation, unless someone else speaks up at this point, I think the dartboard is very dotted towards the three tails going to Rakudo.
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As long as his bijuu was clearly on the line during the fight, I see no reason why you shouldn't get it.
Me either, but nothing is allowed to be easy here. :p
Well, it's not like Yujo is personally here on the forum to speak for himself, so it would only seem right to at least try to flesh things out a bit. We're pretty backwards at times, but I think we still owe people a fair shot at least.
Unfortunately at this stage of the conversation, unless someone else speaks up at this point, I think the dartboard is very dotted towards the three tails going to Rakudo.
Yujo does know about this topic too, he finally responded to my pm yesterday
---Original Message from Uzumaki Yūjō(2013-11-29 00:15:32)---
I challenged you, therefore, I had the rights to void it, easy as that. Nathan answered it on the forums quite clearly.
---Original Message from Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo(2013-11-17 21:46:44)---
How is it pending? We're in the middle of it. You can call the forfeit whatever you like but it means I get the three tails.
So Yujo is also banking on "I just didn't want to." as a good reason to void the fight.
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As long as his bijuu was clearly on the line during the fight, I see no reason why you shouldn't get it.
Me either, but nothing is allowed to be easy here. :p
Well, it's not like Yujo is personally here on the forum to speak for himself, so it would only seem right to at least try to flesh things out a bit. We're pretty backwards at times, but I think we still owe people a fair shot at least.
Unfortunately at this stage of the conversation, unless someone else speaks up at this point, I think the dartboard is very dotted towards the three tails going to Rakudo.
Yujo does know about this topic too, he finally responded to my pm yesterday
---Original Message from Uzumaki Yūjō(2013-11-29 00:15:32)---
I challenged you, therefore, I had the rights to void it, easy as that. Nathan answered it on the forums quite clearly.
---Original Message from Sandaime Mizukage Rakudo(2013-11-17 21:46:44)---
How is it pending? We're in the middle of it. You can call the forfeit whatever you like but it means I get the three tails.
So Yujo is also banking on "I just didn't want to." as a good reason to void the fight.
No, I do think Yujo is correct. He has the right to void as the challenger. Plus he has a good right to so so... It's not like he is doing it cause he didn't like a post or something like that. RL things came about. Stop taking this game so freaking serious and give respect to people's real lives.
Also he doesn't need to come to these boards to say anything. You can't tell someone they have to do this or that. He made his point clear in that pm and that should be the end of it.
He was the challenger, he dropped his challenge... End of story.
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Kirk that doesn't make any sense, and I'm sure has nothing to do with the fact I'm clean sweeping Konoha of its bijuu.
You make it sound like he challenged me and then decided not to start it. We are in the middle of what we said was an IC bijuu fight with all our bijuu on the line. It has been going on for MONTHS. If he wants to quit he can, but it means he loses.
Being able to waste months of my time and then go, "I'm done! This never happened!" is not fair to me.
As I've said multiple times and others have pointed out he really has no reason to void it. I told him I would wait for him to finish moving (as I have been waiting for weeks) and he could go to the library to post if he wanted to. I'm not pressuring him to post, he can take as long as he has to to finish his move and get his internet back up.
I think I'm being pretty reasonable here. He wants to quit an IC bijuu death match, he doesn't want to wait for some reason he just wants to quit. So I'm willing to say he doesn't die but I want his bijuu, because that was the prize for winning the fight that he wants to forfeit.
tl'dr: Yujo being able to quit in the middle of an IC bijuu fight and suffer no downside because of it is dumb, since all he has to do is wait until his move is done and his internet back up and we could resume the fight.
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Kirk that doesn't make any sense, and I'm sure has nothing to do with the fact I'm clean sweeping Konoha of its bijuu.
You make it sound like he challenged me and then decided not to start it. We are in the middle of what we said was an IC bijuu fight with all our bijuu on the line. It has been going on for MONTHS. If he wants to quit he can, but it means he loses.
Being able to waste months of my time and then go, "I'm done! This never happened!" is not fair to me.
As I've said multiple times and others have pointed out he really has no reason to void it. I told him I would wait for him to finish moving (as I have been waiting for weeks) and he could go to the library to post if he wanted to. I'm not pressuring him to post, he can take as long as he has to to finish his move and get his internet back up.
I think I'm being pretty reasonable here. He wants to quit an IC bijuu death match, he doesn't want to wait for some reason he just wants to quit. So I'm willing to say he doesn't die but I want his bijuu, because that was the prize for winning the fight that he wants to forfeit.
tl'dr: Yujo being able to quit in the middle of an IC bijuu fight and suffer no downside because of it is dumb, since all he has to do is wait until his move is done and his internet back up and we could resume the fight.
Just seemed to me that you were trying to take advantage of someone else's Real Life problems, which I see as wrong no matter what it does to some character at a game.
If I had a misconception about that then my bad. Just seems Yujo is being punished because of his RL.
P.s. I could careless how many Biju you collect or how many any village have. Konoha matters not to me.
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Fact of the matter is, Yujo agreed to those aforementioned terms as the challenger/initiator, hence really (in my opinion) he'd have more of an obligation to see it through to the bitter end than if he were the one being challenged.
If his life outside of SL is too difficult, then fair enough, his character shouldn't be killed off the bat. However, he opted to put his bijuu on the line in an IC-context, which I believe is completely irreversible regardless of the circumstances. Just snag the bijuu off of him until he feels the need to return and issue a challenge for it back.
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Just seemed to me that you were trying to take advantage of someone else's Real Life problems, which I see as wrong no matter what it does to some character at a game.
If I had a misconception about that then my bad. Just seems Yujo is being punished because of his RL.
P.s. I could careless how many Biju you collect or how many any village have. Konoha matters not to me.
The only thing is that Yujo is CHOOSING to allow RL affect this. All he had to do is say "Hey I'm moving, I don't have internet, I'm not gonna be able to do the fight for a while." and that would have been that.
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So let me see if I understand correctly, because now I'm a little confused. RL is a reason to outright cancel a biju challenge that you yourself issued? Delay or put off is one thing, but outright cancel without consequences? I have been given that impression by Kirk's statement, and I want to make sure I understand this correctly.
If Rakudo wasn't willing to wait for the match (though he is) then Yujo would have had the right to cancel his challenge due to RL not allowing him to post? A fight that he has already been halfway through?
Although I thought biju challenges as a whole were well and finished a month or so ago, this is something that 'begs the question' imho. Because even with the more RP-based hunting strategy, RL can still intervene, and figuratively speaking, there are still challengers and challenged, even if it's jinck vs jinck.
Taking the game seriously is just something that happens after you invest days upon years into it. After while, you do get quite invested in what goes on, even if it is merely how many turns you get in one day.
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It seems that in order to keep this topic derailing into Rakudo talking about how he thinks he's almighty or someone asking questions that don't necessarily pertain to the topic, we need Yujo to post.
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It seems that in order to keep this topic derailing into Rakudo talking about how he thinks he's almighty or someone asking questions that don't necessarily pertain to the topic, we need Yujo to post.
I'm not almighty, just undefeated, how has the topic gone remotely off the rails though? We seem to be mostly in agreement that Yujo should lose the three tails to me if he is just going to choose to stop the fight instead of waiting.
We already know that Yujo agrees with you, that he should be able to drop the challenge no questions asked and at no downside to himself. Myself, Kyutu, Eric, Yumei, and I'd say Rai, don't agree with that. So how many people should I get to support me before I can claim the three tails?
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Meh, either way Yujo is losing the biju. Not to be mean since Yujo is a friend, but unless Yujo is now active, he can't host a biju due to inactivity. The real question is where it goes to. I personally believe Rakudo should get it since he's done everything in his power for this fight, hell he even said he'll still wait for Yujo, meaning there is no valid reason to cancel it.
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Meh, either way Yujo is losing the biju. Not to be mean since Yujo is a friend, but unless Yujo is now active, he can't host a biju due to inactivity. The real question is where it goes to. I personally believe Rakudo should get it since he's done everything in his power for this fight, hell he even said he'll still wait for Yujo, meaning there is no valid reason to cancel it.
Add Trev to that list. Can we agree that I should have the three tails now? That's pretty much all there is to it.
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I'm confused. Do we even have a rule about a challenger being able to withdraw from and void an OOC Bijuu match?
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I'm confused. Do we even have a rule about a challenger being able to withdraw from and void an OOC Bijuu match?
Gonna guess I said upwards of 5 times it is IC.
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Scrolled through the thread, and both parties are saying opposite things concerning the match being IC or OOC.
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Scrolled through the thread, and both parties are saying opposite things concerning the match being IC or OOC.
Considering the only other party isn't posting in this thread you are listening to what other people say they were told about the fight. Which I would say is a less credible source.
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It seems that in order to keep this topic derailing into Rakudo talking about how he thinks he's almighty or someone asking questions that don't necessarily pertain to the topic, we need Yujo to post.
Well, whether it was directed towards me or not, I asked my question because it does have something to do with the topic. As mentioned otherwise, if Yujo did have the right to void challenges on the basis of RL struggles, then this topic should have been done days ago, and Rakudo will just have to challenge again for the beast
If he did not, then this topic also should have already been done; he has to either continue trying to fight or surrender the tailed beast. And it sounds like the latter is what is going on.
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It seems that in order to keep this topic derailing into Rakudo talking about how he thinks he's almighty or someone asking questions that don't necessarily pertain to the topic, we need Yujo to post.
I'm not almighty, just undefeated, how has the topic gone remotely off the rails though? We seem to be mostly in agreement that Yujo should lose the three tails to me if he is just going to choose to stop the fight instead of waiting.
We already know that Yujo agrees with you, that he should be able to drop the challenge no questions asked and at no downside to himself. Myself, Kyutu, Eric, Yumei, and I'd say Rai, don't agree with that. So how many people should I get to support me before I can claim the three tails?
I said in order to keep it from doing so.
It doesn't matter if they all agree with you. The decision should be discussed between you, Yujo, and the mod of your fight. They're merely giving their opinions and have no say in the fight.
It seems that in order to keep this topic derailing into Rakudo talking about how he thinks he's almighty or someone asking questions that don't necessarily pertain to the topic, we need Yujo to post.
Well, whether it was directed towards me or not, I asked my question because it does have something to do with the topic. As mentioned otherwise, if Yujo did have the right to void challenges on the basis of RL struggles, then this topic should have been done days ago, and Rakudo will just have to challenge again for the beast
If he did not, then this topic also should have already been done; he has to either continue trying to fight or surrender the tailed beast. And it sounds like the latter is what is going on.
According to what Yujo told me he moved in RL and hasn't gotten on since to my knowledge, so it should be the former. I may be wrong, though, and he did get on recently and I just didn't notice.
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Yujo has been on, he sent me a message several days ago, I posted that here. So he could have done the same thing Kamui has been doing in our fight, composing a message offline and then posting it when he gets on, it's like I said before he is just choosing not to post.
He has no reason to void the fight in this situation. If I get sick and have the flu there is no reason for me to go "Oooooh, I can't post, I guess we better void the fight, instead of just waiting a week for me to get better." I cannot post for a while is not a reason to void the whole thing. I guess I should just ask Kamui to make a decision, but then Yujo will dispute it or claim Kamui was only judge for the one decision like he did with Tsuyo, it's gonna be crap regardless of what I do. :p