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Roleplay => Village Square => Topic started by: UettoSenju on April 16, 2014, 09:14:52 PM
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I was wondering if there were still any out there that were thinking of nerfing characters rp wise.
If so I was just wanting to speak with you guys about perhaps starting our own community at SL. Creating a character template and such to follow and reworking our character to fit it.
I'm not sure if there are still people wishing to do this or not.
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I will agree to this as long as some techniques are 'lost' like the Edo-Tensei and Harashin (although very unlikely to be agreed upon) or fit so the user can't have like 3 KG along with a technique like Harashin or Edo-Tensei.
In short my vote goes for making a template for people to follow and I just may be more willing to RP in this community.
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The whole point is to nerf so yeah there will not be anyone with a special skill and a KG. I also think we shoul not involve the tailed beast. And we should use a chakra system to decrease spamming.
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Uetto, I applaud you for having such bravery to nerf your character. As I said before, the reason why rpers currently are overpowered is because most of them can't rp, so they must become OP in hopes of prolonging their short-lived lives. It's humorous how they always choose to become OP instead of sharpening their rp prowess and writing skills. Writing is so underestimated these days, don't you think?
Now... I hope your cause won't have pseudo-Madaras, like the ones we have running around lately, in this community you speak of. I can strongly say that I'm not OP. It would be an honor and a privilege to help your cause.
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This is just a rough draft of things. I'm not trying to void any thing that is cannon but merely create a system that people who wish to can follow in order to perhaps not have such OP characters. There will always be those with skills that are stronger cannon wise (doesn't mean you know how to use them) however it helps if they are limited.
I'm not trying to force this upon anyone not in the least. However I would much enjoy seeing it take root and spread throughout the site. It can also be noted that in game resets shouldn't reflects this build in the least.
Attribute System:
One is awarded x amount of points upon character creation~
ACSD: 5
Genin: 10
Chuunin: 15
Jounin: 20
Kage: 40
These points are then spent towards the attribute system that helps determine your character’s stats~
Strength: x/10
Speed: x/10
Durability: x/10
Chakra Capacity: x/10
Intelligence: x/10
[b]Chakra System:[/b]
Basically each character is granted the amount of points placed in there ‘Chakra Capacity’ times 6.
Example- 3/10 means 18 chakra points. This reflects the amount of just that can be performed. (One should also note once this number runs low they become exhausted)
[b]Jutsu Coast System:[/b]
E-Rank: 1 point
D-Rank: 2 points
C-Rank: 4 points
B-Rank: 6 points
A-Ranks: 8 points
S-Rank: 10 points
Therefor a Genin with 12 chakra points could theoretically perform= 1 c-rank jutsu, 3 d-rank jutsu, & 2 e-rank jutsu.
[b]Jutsu Setup[/b]
To prevent character from having to wide of a arsenal and keep fairness in hand to a degree ranks will be issued a jutsu count. Meanind you may only know up to this many jutsu. (“*“ means infinite)
ACSD: *e-rank, & 2 d-rank
Genin: *e-rank, 8d-rank, & 2c-rank
Chuunin: *e-rank, 15d-rank, 5c-rank, & 3b-rank
Jounin: *e-rank, 20d-rank, 8c-rank, 5b-rank, & 3a-rank
Kage:*e-rank, 25d-rank, 10c-rank, 7b-rank, 5a-rank, & 2s-rank
*Character Set Up*
So in order to limit the characters we are going to limit the things one can use to a very high degree. Basically make it so that there are no Madara or Kabuto’s running around but more Shikamaru or TenTen whom hold true to one type of fighting style.
It would be wise to think about this when setting up your attribution points as you don’t want them two to go against one another.
From this list you may choose two that your character can use, one as your main and the other as your primary:
Ninjutsu
Genjutsu
Taijutsu
Bukijutsu
Fuinjutsu
Meidc-jutsu
(more to be added in)
No next is where the big stink comes is, finding equilibrium with those stronger skills. Therefor we shall lay out an outline for KKG and things of the sort.
-a character may choose to have no KKG, special skill, or anything of the sort and those characters are awarded extra points to spend in their attribute system
-a character may choose to have a KKG but may not have any type of special skill or jutsu along with it such as Edo, FTG, Clan Techs, Sage Mode, 8gates; the amount of elements they can have shall be limited as well respectively to the KKG for example Mokuton: Doton & Suiton, Kaguya: none, Dojutsu: one, Rinnegan: none ^^Note: There will be no KG stacking so no EMS & Rinnegan
-a character may choose to have a clan skill that is not a KKG however this skill will be treated as such
-a character may choose to have a special skill such as Curse Seal, Sage Mode, or 8gates this will prevent them from being able to use any special jutsu, place a limit on the elements, and prevent them from being able to use a kkg. ^^Note these simple add extra attributes once activated.
-a character may choose to host a special jutsu such as Edo, FTG, Rasangan, ect. This will simply prevent them from having a KKG or special skill and limit their element count.
-a character may also choose to have no special thing of the sort and sub out their extra attribute system points for a third element
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Of course there will have to be more systems place in to cover some stuff lie edo an sage mode. But really I not see why not give this a try? We have done the OP thing and all we have done is argue and make things less fun.
Why not go bak to the basics? Limit ourselves and start truly rping agian. In my eyes this is how we get bac to that golden age. Thi is what will mar SL enjoyable for everyone new players included. A fresh start.
Now I am also aware this is blasphemy at SL and I'm not saying anyone's rping method are wrong cause we are granted to rp whatever with whoever however we wish. Therefor to create this seperate community of rp we may have to create some peusedo villages via clan halls. A world apart from the OP one.
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Of course there will have to be more systems place in to cover some stuff lie edo an sage mode. But really I not see why not give this a try? We have done the OP thing and all we have done is argue and make things less fun.
Why not go bak to the basics? Limit ourselves and start truly rping agian. In my eyes this is how we get bac to that golden age. Thi is what will mar SL enjoyable for everyone new players included. A fresh start.
Now I am also aware this is blasphemy at SL and I'm not saying anyone's rping method are wrong cause we are granted to rp whatever with whoever however we wish. Therefor to create this seperate community of rp we may have to create some peusedo villages via clan halls. A world apart from the OP one.
How will implants be ruled for Dojutsu as I am sure there will be people who will try to have a KG or some other powerful technique and try to achieve more power.
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Of course there will have to be more systems place in to cover some stuff lie edo an sage mode. But really I not see why not give this a try? We have done the OP thing and all we have done is argue and make things less fun.
Why not go bak to the basics? Limit ourselves and start truly rping agian. In my eyes this is how we get bac to that golden age. Thi is what will mar SL enjoyable for everyone new players included. A fresh start.
Now I am also aware this is blasphemy at SL and I'm not saying anyone's rping method are wrong cause we are granted to rp whatever with whoever however we wish. Therefor to create this seperate community of rp we may have to create some peusedo villages via clan halls. A world apart from the OP one.
How will implants be ruled for Dojutsu as I am sure there will be people who will try to have a KG or some other powerful technique and try to achieve more power.
Simple there is no KG stacking. Simple as that those who do not have a kg or special skill may get one. However it will be chakra taxing and in a system where you actually lose chakra it makes it not OP.
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Weren't you going to make your own forum site Kirk? Hell if you want I can make you a simple free forum. I like that better simply because there is no peer pressure than. No one has to pick one way or another on SL. The site is already pretty bare, I don't think it would be a good idea to create almost literal factions of rp'ers that you have to choose between, that seems exclusive rather than inclusive.
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Weren't you going to make your own forum site Kirk? Hell if you want I can make you a simple free forum. I like that better simply because there is no peer pressure than. No one has to pick one way or another on SL. The site is already pretty bare, I don't think it would be a good idea to create almost literal factions of rp'ers that you have to choose between, that seems exclusive rather than inclusive.
I don't have the time.
No one said you had to choose one or the other. I'm pretty certain Yu can have multiple accounts and characters at SL.
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Weren't you going to make your own forum site Kirk? Hell if you want I can make you a simple free forum. I like that better simply because there is no peer pressure than. No one has to pick one way or another on SL. The site is already pretty bare, I don't think it would be a good idea to create almost literal factions of rp'ers that you have to choose between, that seems exclusive rather than inclusive.
I don't have the time.
No one said you had to choose one or the other. I'm pretty certain Yu can have multiple accounts and characters at SL.
http://naruto-role-play-rpg.forumotion.com/ That site comes to mind with the template that you pasted.
The reason I bring it up is that I agree with Bocc on the matter. RPing in both communities, considering the schedules and all, is unpractical. True competition between the two would eventually lead to the more favored method of RPing becoming dominant and scrunching out the loser.
Now, I have a valid reason to believe that a less OP faction has a chance at actually accomplishing that, in no short amount of time in the grand scale of things.
Plenty of current folks are not going to want thier RP limited, but newcomers will likely flock to a system where they have a better chance of actually competing in the SL world.
In short, if you are intending on overturning and flipping the currently set up table-top game, then go ahead and state it as such. Otherwise, you might as well just take this to an off-site forum.
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That too ^ it would really only be a matter of time. I don't know about you but I would probably just stop rping all together. If I have to start all over and have their be actual stats and stuff I might as well go to a whole new site that is much more active, there's just no point in doing it here.
We don't need to make SL like other rp forums, hell, I'm here BECAUSE it isn't like other rp forums.
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We don't need to make SL like other rp forums, hell, I'm here BECAUSE it isn't like other rp forums.
That.
I'm not here to get nerfed, I'm here to have a Hōzuki-Uzumaki hybrid who can use five chakra natures, two of which are specialized, who has stupid weaponry and armor and have other people to fight who can stand up to that.
I hate stats and whatnot. If I wanted to play that way, I'd go on a ton of other active sites that offer that.
SL lets us have OP characters. It's the fun of it.
Excuse my French, but you guys have to stop bitching about the way this site works. Yes, we are all OP (except you lord god Pete you are not OP and can still smash around the OP players and so I will always worship you and kiss your feet) and I LIKE IT GODDAMNIT. Don't force me to change my character because some people can't screw their balls on and figure out how to achieve power. I worked hard on my stuff, especially considering most of it is custom anyways.
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Like I said I'm not pushing thi on anyone and I'm not trying to get anyone on board I simply wanted to see if there were any. Perhaps we could form a clan and rp how we wished there.
SL does grant freedom to rp how you wish and if I an a few others wish to rp this way them we are allowed to. I'm not knocking your method if you haven't noticed I still actively rp in today's community and not gonna stop.
I simply wanted to know if anyone wanted in. Hate me if you wish but I will do a I lie and don't care what anyone thinks.
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You know, the high-reset/many-hidden-techniques crowd aren't the only people that are OP in what they claim. There's also the other faction/crowd that claims to be some sort of super-special-otherworldly powerful being from another world/dimension/etc. that happen to be the fastest person in the world, with their lightning-quick reflexes and movements with their reverse-blade katana hidden within their apparent Akatsuki cloak. Not to mention, that they have enormous amounts of ominisouly-evil chakra that would even make a Tailed Beast tremble before them. Their mastery of all chakra natures in existence and creation of anything you can imagine from their mastery of Yin, Yang and Yin-Yang Releases. You won't be able to even do anything but blink in the time that they can easily destroy you.
All the while being an acad.
EDIT: And also being apparently gay, bi, lesbian, everything, nothing, uncategorized, etc. since apparently it matters now to all these new kids that think this is a dating site.
But overall, really. We've had this topic already and pointed out that it would be too much of a debuff for everyone. Isn't part of the point of having fun in SL mean that you have the possibility of getting four different KG? Or even subbing out some resets for custom KG and other stuff?
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You know, the high-reset/many-hidden-techniques crowd aren't the only people that are OP in what they claim. There's also the other faction/crowd that claims to be some sort of super-special-otherworldly powerful being from another world/dimension/etc. that happen to be the fastest person in the world, with their lightning-quick reflexes and movements with their reverse-blade katana hidden within their apparent Akatsuki cloak. Not to mention, that they have enormous amounts of ominisouly-evil chakra that would even make a Tailed Beast tremble before them. Their mastery of all chakra natures in existence and creation of anything you can imagine from their mastery of Yin, Yang and Yin-Yang Releases. You won't be able to even do anything but blink in the time that they can easily destroy you.
All the while being an acad.
EDIT: And also being apparently gay, bi, lesbian, everything, nothing, uncategorized, etc. since apparently it matters now to all these new kids that think this is a dating site.
But overall, really. We've had this topic already and pointed out that it would be too much of a debuff for everyone. Isn't part of the point of having fun in SL mean that you have the possibility of getting four different KG? Or even subbing out some resets for custom KG and other stuff?
Once again I don't understand why you can't understand I'm not saying that everyone needs to do this. I was asking if any out there would like to do so and rp away from the general means of things.
It seems to me that you all want to blast what I and a few others may think will be fun for trying to say that we are pushing it on you, when truly we are just trying to mind our own. Yet you are quick to tell us that we can't do this and should do what you all want. If I am not mistaken SL gives us freedom to rp as we wish, correct? Therefor if a few of us want to create some characters that follow a certain guideline then why can we not? Why should you have the freedom to claim as much as you possibly can but we not have the freedom to limit ourselves?
ONCE MORE: THIS IS NOT A RULE THAT I AM TRYING TO GET PASSED UPON YOU. THIS IS SIMPLY TO SEE IF ANY WOULD LIKE TO FORM A CLAN WITH ME WERE WE RP IN THIS CLAN WITH LIMITED SKILLED CHARACTERS.
You all are so gun shy of new rules being placed upon you that you try to rob others of their freedom to rp as they wish.
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If enough people do contact me. Like 10-15 about wishing to do this then I'll form the clan other then that I will probably go ahead and start on my forum then.
I had one half way created and lost it when I had to reboot my laptop.
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No we're not Kirk, I understand at least. What I see happening is there will be people who want to rp like that and if there's someone they don't like they can just tell them "I rp by different rules so Im not going to rp with you." Same the other way around, "Oh you want me to give my characters stats and chakra points and stuff? Go back to your clan then, we don't rp like that here." You know what I mean? Does that not sound like SL to you?
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No we're not Kirk, I understand at least. What I see happening is there will be people who want to rp like that and if there's someone they don't like they can just tell them "I rp by different rules so Im not going to rp with you." Same the other way around, "Oh you want me to give my characters stats and chakra points and stuff? Go back to your clan then, we don't rp like that here." You know what I mean? Does that not sound like SL to you?
Is SL not already divided? Really do people not already void people. Hell Bocc I know plenty that openly say they want rp with you because they either don't like you personally or think your character is to meh.
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No we're not Kirk, I understand at least. What I see happening is there will be people who want to rp like that and if there's someone they don't like they can just tell them "I rp by different rules so Im not going to rp with you." Same the other way around, "Oh you want me to give my characters stats and chakra points and stuff? Go back to your clan then, we don't rp like that here." You know what I mean? Does that not sound like SL to you?
Is SL not already divided? Really do people not already void people. Hell Bocc I know plenty that openly say they want rp with you because they either don't like you personally or think your character is to meh.
And they don't have to. But there isn't a Bocch Clan and an Anti-Bocch Clan. If it's not official now I don't see the point in drawing team lines so people can officially box themselves off from others.
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No we're not Kirk, I understand at least. What I see happening is there will be people who want to rp like that and if there's someone they don't like they can just tell them "I rp by different rules so Im not going to rp with you." Same the other way around, "Oh you want me to give my characters stats and chakra points and stuff? Go back to your clan then, we don't rp like that here." You know what I mean? Does that not sound like SL to you?
Is SL not already divided? Really do people not already void people. Hell Bocc I know plenty that openly say they want rp with you because they either don't like you personally or think your character is to meh.
And they don't have to. But there isn't a Bocch Clan and an Anti-Bocch Clan. If it's not official now I don't see the point in drawing team lines so people can officially box themselves off from others.
Did you ever think that there are those who don't rp anymore because they don't like the current set up that would enjoy to rp at this site once again in a clan of this sort? Stop being selfish. If people want to rp a certain way then damn it they can simple as that.
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No we're not Kirk, I understand at least. What I see happening is there will be people who want to rp like that and if there's someone they don't like they can just tell them "I rp by different rules so Im not going to rp with you." Same the other way around, "Oh you want me to give my characters stats and chakra points and stuff? Go back to your clan then, we don't rp like that here." You know what I mean? Does that not sound like SL to you?
Is SL not already divided? Really do people not already void people. Hell Bocc I know plenty that openly say they want rp with you because they either don't like you personally or think your character is to meh.
And they don't have to. But there isn't a Bocch Clan and an Anti-Bocch Clan. If it's not official now I don't see the point in drawing team lines so people can officially box themselves off from others.
Did you ever think that there are those who don't rp anymore because they don't like the current set up that would enjoy to rp at this site once again in a clan of this sort? Stop being selfish. If people want to rp a certain way then damn it they can simple as that.
We know that there are those who do not RP anymore becuase they do not like the current setup. That is their choice. It is also their choice to join a clan or set of clans that go by their own rules.
No one here is able to stop this if it goes down, because its a privilege for all of us to RP as we so choose on this site, as long as it does not break any rules. No one is trying to outright persecute the cause, or at least not that I have seen.
What some of us are doing is trying to dissuade the concept that doing this will not alter the status quo. If/when it catches on, then it will alter the status quo, whether you force it to or not. You may not personally force it down folk's throats, but every group has their extremist(s).
Even if there are none who try to literally force it, there is only so much space. Two separate communities cannot co-exist on SL without clashing at some point. With little doubt, one side is going to win at some point.
It may take weeks, months, years even if we're still around, but eventually, one will become "mainstream" and the other "sidestream".
I may even join this myself, but I do not want the impression given that this group will not change anything, for better or for worse. The two are literally incompatible to RP zone with each other at the same time in the same space.
Just tell it like it is. You want a group where people can RP a certain way, in the hopes that it not only revives the vitality of SL RP, but also brings this ideal as the main ideal (not necessarily the only ideal) of the realm through the diffusion of a majority.
I jokingly refer to it as the New World Order Scheme. 8)
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No we're not Kirk, I understand at least. What I see happening is there will be people who want to rp like that and if there's someone they don't like they can just tell them "I rp by different rules so Im not going to rp with you." Same the other way around, "Oh you want me to give my characters stats and chakra points and stuff? Go back to your clan then, we don't rp like that here." You know what I mean? Does that not sound like SL to you?
Is SL not already divided? Really do people not already void people. Hell Bocc I know plenty that openly say they want rp with you because they either don't like you personally or think your character is to meh.
And they don't have to. But there isn't a Bocch Clan and an Anti-Bocch Clan. If it's not official now I don't see the point in drawing team lines so people can officially box themselves off from others.
Did you ever think that there are those who don't rp anymore because they don't like the current set up that would enjoy to rp at this site once again in a clan of this sort? Stop being selfish. If people want to rp a certain way then damn it they can simple as that.
We know that there are those who do not RP anymore becuase they do not like the current setup. That is their choice. It is also their choice to join a clan or set of clans that go by their own rules.
No one here is able to stop this if it goes down, because its a privilege for all of us to RP as we so choose on this site, as long as it does not break any rules. No one is trying to outright persecute the cause, or at least not that I have seen.
What some of us are doing is trying to dissuade the concept that doing this will not alter the status quo. If/when it catches on, then it will alter the status quo, whether you force it to or not. You may not personally force it down folk's throats, but every group has their extremist(s).
Even if there are none who try to literally force it, there is only so much space. Two separate communities cannot co-exist on SL without clashing at some point. With little doubt, one side is going to win at some point.
It may take weeks, months, years even if we're still around, but eventually, one will become "mainstream" and the other "sidestream".
I may even join this myself, but I do not want the impression given that this group will not change anything, for better or for worse. The two are literally incompatible to RP zone with each other at the same time in the same space.
Just tell it like it is. You want a group where people can RP a certain way, in the hopes that it not only revives the vitality of SL RP, but also brings this ideal as the main ideal (not necessarily the only ideal) of the realm through the diffusion of a majority.
I jokingly refer to it as the New World Order Scheme. 8)
Truthfully though I'm not trying to change the mainstream rp style. Like I told you in pm Eric, Uetto will still stay in the main stream rp I am just going to create an alt for this clan if it is done.
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JUST A BODY COUNT...
count me out. I was part of SLS once. That was enough. No one will ever make the rules as I want them. So...I think we should just do as we want and get down to RP.
The problem with trying to design things differently than they currently are is...change.
If you want to play with certain rules, you have to state them before the game ply begins. After game play begins is much too late.