As I mentioned, no safeguards to prevent sensing. Sensors and other Jinchuriki can detect bijuu chakra whether it is sealed in a person or an old shoe, period. Otherwise it is impossible to locate them.
As I mentioned, no safeguards to prevent sensing. Sensors and other Jinchuriki can detect bijuu chakra whether it is sealed in a person or an old shoe, period. Otherwise it is impossible to locate them.
You want to take out anything that prevents sensing? I don't have any objection to that. However I think we should add an addition to where nonsensors and those not a bijuu should be able to 'detect' them at least. I'm not sure if that's to be a time frame to where they start to sense the bijuu chakra or what, but I don't agree with the idea that only 2 types of people can sense the chakra.
As I mentioned, no safeguards to prevent sensing. Sensors and other Jinchuriki can detect bijuu chakra whether it is sealed in a person or an old shoe, period. Otherwise it is impossible to locate them.
I just mean that anyone who has the ability to sense chakra could find them. People in Sage Mode, probably people with Byakugan and Sharingan too. It should be in the same "zone" though, village, or what have you.
You want to take out anything that prevents sensing? I don't have any objection to that. However I think we should add an addition to where nonsensors and those not a bijuu should be able to 'detect' them at least. I'm not sure if that's to be a time frame to where they start to sense the bijuu chakra or what, but I don't agree with the idea that only 2 types of people can sense the chakra.
Sensing shouldn't be a problem at all if you're a proficient sensor. You should be all like "woah, that's a lot of chakra over there", since the Biju are beasts of raw and pure chakra.
Some for doujutsu when it comes to the Sharingan and Byakugan. The Sharingan can see chakra and differentiate between different kinds, since it gives color to it. The Byakugan can do the same thing, but it also has that fancy 360 degree view, x-ray vision and telescopic sight. That would make finding Biju even easier. Some may think it's unfair, but some people are born with talents/abilities that give them an advantage over others. That's basically what KG are.
And having a Biju as a summon means that they have to be jailed/confined, not sealed, somewhere. That's pretty much how I rolled when I had the Rokubi, which meant that if any hunters wanted to, they could easily find it using one of the above methods. Especially with the Byakugan. Now how might one confine a Biju? I just made Wood Dragons, put it in a Sharingan-induced genjutsu and called it a day. Not everyone may be able to use that method though, because of resets or KG they don't have.
I think more clarifications are needed to find the biju if they are used as a summoning, since in theory you could hide them forever. Maybe we could say the biju leaves traces of their chakra on the summoner or something?
As for the stripping, I think somethings are obvious and are givens to be added to the rules. Like if the Jinch is inactive and not in a fight, it goes to the leader of the clan/village or tourney if no affliation.
The question is, what happens if the Jinch is in a fight? Obviously from past rulings, if it is 1v1, it goes to the challenger.
The rest is up for deciding.
Yes, magic ooc. How else would you give the biju to a leader if a host went inactive? Especially one that was inactive and not in battle?
As for the Kiri debate, most agree in that situation, the beast goes back to Kiri. The only problem with that, is Xia is moving and as active kage, if the beast gets stripped, he has to decide where it goes. This brings up an important aspect to the rules, what happens in the Jinch and active leader go inactive?
Perhaps the next highest ranked member, or a council if one decides?
Or a tournament for Kiri members only? Or consider it to be unaffiliated and a site wide tournament. Numerous ways to deal with it.
1v1 the attacker gets it.
If it's to where it's in a group rp and said host goes inactive it goes to the kage, if said kage is inactive the bijuu automatically gets stuck into a container of sorts?
Then it comes down to who defends it?
He's moving, so I'm pretty sure he gets a pass and won't get stripped. I don't know his activity level, so maybe he'll be able to name a Jinch. Either way, it proposes a what if scenario, which needs to be covered for the rules.
The scenario being, an jinch and inactive clan/village leader. Perhaps if they have a council or second in command lined up they decide, or if no one can do it within two weeks, it be hosted as a prize for a tournament.
1v1 the attacker gets it.
If it's to where it's in a group rp and said host goes inactive it goes to the kage, if said kage is inactive the bijuu automatically gets stuck into a container of sorts?
Then it comes down to who defends it?
I hate to be that guy, but what about 2v1 or 2v2? Is there a limit before the beast goes to the village, or a limit before the challenger just claims it?He's moving, so I'm pretty sure he gets a pass and won't get stripped. I don't know his activity level, so maybe he'll be able to name a Jinch. Either way, it proposes a what if scenario, which needs to be covered for the rules.
The scenario being, an jinch and inactive clan/village leader. Perhaps if they have a council or second in command lined up they decide, or if no one can do it within two weeks, it be hosted as a prize for a tournament.
There has to be a second-in-command somewhere. Life happens, not having a second in command in a clan like Kirigakure would be extremely careless. If that second in command goes absent, then the next one in the line of succession steps up to handle the duties.
That seems to complicated, I'd rather if the Jinch goes inactive and no one is active enough to seal/ become it's summoner, I'd rather see it go to a tournament or something.
You do realize if it gets stripped and sent back to Kiri, it could potentially go to someone not even in the battle >>
The beast must be sealed or used as an summoner within two weeks I believe, no exceptions. If a clan/village cannot, it is stripped from the village and a tournament is hosted I believe.
How would such a tournament be hosted or run? Idk, so lets figure it out and decide. Not saying this is what will happen to the Sanbi, we cant create a whole set of rules, based off one fight. Got to look at all possibilities, so we never have to make another thread again!
Edit: We should also spread awareness of this thread, so it's just not Akatsuki.
That seems to complicated, I'd rather if the Jinch goes inactive and no one is active enough to seal/ become it's summoner, I'd rather see it go to a tournament or something.
Has a crazy and wild out of the box idea. Void the damn tailed beast. They are more of a burden than a benefit to SL rp. Truthfully they cause more ooc fighting and problems then any other thing on SL.
It is not like without them rp would suck at SL. We could actually strike up some interesting plots that weren't just 'get the tailed beast'.
Other then that in my opinion I like the old biju methods more than these new ones. Kinda like Kay said 1vs1. it was much more simple that way and seemed to not cause such of a big fuss in quantity of people.
Trev: I don't think the village/clan/group needs to be punished because its leadership failed. I believe they should be given the opportunity to deal with the bijuu properly on their own. Only after every attempt has been made to give the village/etc....the opportunities to handle their own property, should it even be considered to be open up for the general public to participate. And even then it should be organized by what is left of that village.
When dealing with the property of others you have to be extra careful not to lay yourself open for an accusation of theft or unfair play. Believe it or not, it is not just the higher ranks of a village who can do things. Many lower ranks are veteran rpers of SL too. To exclude them from attempting to carry this responsibility ASSUMES incompetence.
For the combined set, I would insist upon the 16 max, as like Eric said, if a tournament is to be had, it will be slow. Having 16 members eliminates one whole round, as compared to 32. I also disagree with the champions list, it should be fist come, first served. Some kages could be inactive and the time it takes to find willing participants might take too long.
The two members count should extend to every organization, not just villages. Example being only two members from Akatsuki allowed or Genesis. I don't agree with just the villages having an automatic buy in, first comes first serve seem fairer to me, but with a limit on how many people from an particular organization, so a village say Konoha doesn't have like 8 participants cause they were on earlier.
Of course, for any rules to be placed, we need more opinions, as Kay proposed the organization or village with the biju should host and run it, while we're advertising a more global one. So that should be determined first with the tournament rules. Is is it local (the place where is biju resides) or more of a punishment for not settling the biju matter in the time accordance (global)
Could keep the same rules, just saying the community need to decide if it's global or local.
Global:
Trev
Shadow
Local:
Kay
Need loads more of votes.
I don't understand how the bijuu is not the property of the village or organization. I believe that is how it has been represented in the manga, so that is where my bias comes from.
As it stands now it is up to the hierarchy of the village to determine who the new host will be.
I feel that it would have to be proven the village has defaulted on their ability to choose a new host before an 'outside' tourney would even be considered. As part of the process for a village to choose a new host, it should be acceptable for a village to hold a tourney to choose between its own members.
However, once an outside tourney is called for...I agree with the 3 day posting limit. Special events such as this should force activity. Otherwise if you cannot commit to that level of activity do not try for the bijuu.
... Has SL ever finished an RP tournament?
I don't understand how the bijuu is not the property of the village or organization. I believe that is how it has been represented in the manga, so that is where my bias comes from.
As it stands now it is up to the hierarchy of the village to determine who the new host will be.
I feel that it would have to be proven the village has defaulted on their ability to choose a new host before an 'outside' tourney would even be considered. As part of the process for a village to choose a new host, it should be acceptable for a village to hold a tourney to choose between its own members.
However, once an outside tourney is called for...I agree with the 3 day posting limit. Special events such as this should force activity. Otherwise if you cannot commit to that level of activity do not try for the bijuu.
My persinal thoughts are that SL tends to not follow the manga plot and all. So I still see the Biju as being held by the host not the village... that is just me though. As the person could defect or anything so to me truly the person owns the tailed beast. People at SL flipflop villages a lot.
A tournament is an idea proposed to solve an inactive biju problem if say the leaders of a clan/village are inactive or cannot put a but a biju in a host/summon in the time allowed.
Basically if a organization takes too long to do something with a biju, a tournament is held to decide. So far there are no tournament rules, which is what I'm trying to get done. It's not a main issue, but needs to have rules in the event a tournament is ever needed.
So just to organize everything stated so far, we have these topics and proposes answers (rules)
1v1 fights:
If Jinch goes inactive, challengers gets biju (everyone commenting on thread agrees)
Mutli/village fights:
If Jinch is inacitve, biju goes back to the village in a pot and can be taken by challengers with overwhelming victory.
Dissenting opinion: Uetto proposes it goes to challenger.
Tournament:
Should be a last case scenario as it can be slow (Pretty much agreed upon)
Shadow has proposed set of rules
Trev has proposed set of rules
Kay believe the village should handle it, and it not be open to the public.
Pretty much a recap, someone fix if I missed something. I think everyone will agree with the 1v1, and it might be presumptuous to assume the rest of SL does, but I think that topic is done and settled.
So to hold a tourney each kage from each village will send whoever wants to participate for the bijuu, but no more than 2-3 from one village. All rouge nin can enter regardless. After that the kage and hosts will set up the order and such. The zones will be used for the battles. Judges, I think there should be at least 3 for the total. Consisting of; Kamui (If the poor guy is willing) and then 2 others decided by who's the most unbaised. After that have 3 battles running at a time (The reason for 3 judges) and hopefully that will make it go faster?
I was thinking if a tournament had to be had, perhaps have a 16-32 member maximum count (I'd go with 16). The participants would literally be first come, first served (no alts, however). Perhaps Kamui and other GM's could be judges, or anyone really.
To speed up the process, stress activity. Normally in a fight, you get what, one-two weeks of inactivity before you have to post? For a tournament, make it 2-3 days, else you get dq'd. That would force people to post and fight, or be eliminated to speed it up.
Also make it ooc, as that makes sense. That's how I'd run it anyway, seems the easiest and quickest.
I'd also only limit other people and alts to be the only ones not able to enter. And perhaps to make sure the tournament doesn't overwhelmingly have too many people from one side, put a limit of like 3 members from any organization/village. But mostly first come, first serve as 2-3 from each village is unfair to other clans and the smaller villages.
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So those are the current guidelines Trev and myself have proposed and I'm going to try and mix them into a current template...
Max of 32 champions. 2 from each village max; kusa, kumo, Oto, Iwa. Any village has a max of 2 champions. Villages DO NOT have to participate. Champions are to be chosen by the kage/council of the village. I do not care how the village chooses their champions. The villages will have ONE WEEK to choose these people. Those without a village can enter as they please.
To speed up the process a inactivity time of 3-5 days will render you to forfeit the match and be DQ'ed from the competition. After such you CANNOT re-enter under any terms regardless of inactivity reason.
NO ALTS. If we find out you do have an alt you will automatically be DQ'ed, all characters. If we find later you indeed won the bijuu with an alt, stripped. (This is to be debated)
As for judges...I think Kamui comes to mind for everyone. And I insist on having 3 judges and 3 fights to take place at one time.
Well cheaters will cheat. And there is no way around it. So I say if that is how you have to be, go for it. I don't think we need to be making up a butt tons of rules to punish people who are not cheaters just incase some cheaters are around. This isn't the launch codes to the missile silos we are talking about but a game.
So how about this...considering how low activity is and all.
You let anyone join the tourney.
You get 2 weeks to get the thing organized, not completed. That is a fairy tale and won't ever happen.
And then whoever wins has the beasty. And then they start their grace period. All OOC.
What parameters will be for the tourny fight?
KG? Implants? Any restrictions at all or just come as you are?
And...I suggest this.
No bitching. You just fight back and forth 12 posts each. Then it is done. The match is read. A winner named and they go to round 2 to wait for an opponent. Have the tourney here for the ease of the judge reading.
No voiding allowed. You gotta figure out how to deal with what you get...for a change. We used to do that you know, when someone auto hit us we just wrote it out of our reply and moved on.
Well cheaters will cheat. And there is no way around it. So I say if that is how you have to be, go for it. I don't think we need to be making up a butt tons of rules to punish people who are not cheaters just incase some cheaters are around. This isn't the launch codes to the missile silos we are talking about but a game.
So how about this...considering how low activity is and all.
You let anyone join the tourney.
You get 2 weeks to get the thing organized, not completed. That is a fairy tale and won't ever happen.
And then whoever wins has the beasty. And then they start their grace period. All OOC.
What parameters will be for the tourny fight?
KG? Implants? Any restrictions at all or just come as you are?
And...I suggest this.
No bitching. You just fight back and forth 12 posts each. Then it is done. The match is read. A winner named and they go to round 2 to wait for an opponent. Have the tourney here for the ease of the judge reading.
No voiding allowed. You gotta figure out how to deal with what you get...for a change. We used to do that you know, when someone auto hit us we just wrote it out of our reply and moved on.
Second-to-last time I did that I still got auto-hit due to a ruling, as supposedly I should have contested a post that I saw as unfair instead of just proceeding. I presume then that we will not be having that be policy in these tourneys? Not to mention what if someone completely auto-dodges something clearly not so easily dodgeable by the way they composed? Are we permitted to bitch then and get a repost done?
And 2 weeks was only for the local ones, as they, in theory, it is merely an option in case a village would want to do it that way. I believe it will be a "come as you are" kind of thing for the sake of simplicity.
Well cheaters will cheat. And there is no way around it. So I say if that is how you have to be, go for it. I don't think we need to be making up a butt tons of rules to punish people who are not cheaters just incase some cheaters are around. This isn't the launch codes to the missile silos we are talking about but a game.
So how about this...considering how low activity is and all.
You let anyone join the tourney.
You get 2 weeks to get the thing organized, not completed. That is a fairy tale and won't ever happen.
And then whoever wins has the beasty. And then they start their grace period. All OOC.
What parameters will be for the tourny fight?
KG? Implants? Any restrictions at all or just come as you are?
And...I suggest this.
No bitching. You just fight back and forth 12 posts each. Then it is done. The match is read. A winner named and they go to round 2 to wait for an opponent. Have the tourney here for the ease of the judge reading.
No voiding allowed. You gotta figure out how to deal with what you get...for a change. We used to do that you know, when someone auto hit us we just wrote it out of our reply and moved on.
Second-to-last time I did that I still got auto-hit due to a ruling, as supposedly I should have contested a post that I saw as unfair instead of just proceeding. I presume then that we will not be having that be policy in these tourneys? Not to mention what if someone completely auto-dodges something clearly not so easily dodgeable by the way they composed? Are we permitted to bitch then and get a repost done?
And 2 weeks was only for the local ones, as they, in theory, it is merely an option in case a village would want to do it that way. I believe it will be a "come as you are" kind of thing for the sake of simplicity.
What Eric said. Also 12 post fight seems boring as hell. What about those of us that like to drag out or fight cause that is our fighting style to tire out the opponent. I say make them death matches. 12 post to me just seems pointless. Hell you may want to toy with your opponent some.
.... a combo of Zenaku, Trev, Darkshinobi, Raifudo, Shinro, and Bocc.....
.... a combo of Zenaku, Trev, Darkshinobi, Raifudo, Shinro, and Bocc.....
I wanna fight that guy, just saying.
So basically those of use who have full time jobs will not be permitted to host a tailed beast. I say this because lets be honest most of use are growing up. We can't get on everyday all day like we could when we were younger. I take myself as a prime example... I was in fact the most active person at SL at one point in time (I stand by that assumption :P ) but these days I can't get on to do my old methods because I work 40+ hours a week, travel to see my girl friend, and enjoy getting wasted.
I'd rather have the 12 post thing than a week to fight. Some of us may not even be able to get in 12 post a week. Say if I was facing someone from Europe who also has a full time job and what not. We could really only do one post a day each cause we wouldn't be on at the same time and would have to wait to get in from work each day to post a reply.
.... a combo of Zenaku, Trev, Darkshinobi, Raifudo, Shinro, and Bocc.....
I wanna fight that guy, just saying.
So basically those of use who have full time jobs will not be permitted to host a tailed beast. I say this because lets be honest most of use are growing up. We can't get on everyday all day like we could when we were younger. I take myself as a prime example... I was in fact the most active person at SL at one point in time (I stand by that assumption :P ) but these days I can't get on to do my old methods because I work 40+ hours a week, travel to see my girl friend, and enjoy getting wasted.
I'd rather have the 12 post thing than a week to fight. Some of us may not even be able to get in 12 post a week. Say if I was facing someone from Europe who also has a full time job and what not. We could really only do one post a day each cause we wouldn't be on at the same time and would have to wait to get in from work each day to post a reply.
Okay here's the issue, while I get that you have a life and all the other things that come with it, you need to realize while you may want/deserve it you may not be able to have it. That being a host has a 2 week inactive span, but if you constantly only get on once every 2 weeks just to loophole the rules I will strip your ass. (Haha)
Look if you're on once every 3 days and take the time to post and such, I don't mind. Once a week? No. Long as it's like a schedule; Sat, an hour on Mon and 1 1/2 on Thursday I like it. If you can post and abide by the rules. Not asking a lot.
And this is where I have to deal with the inactive issue. Starting later today... it's like 3 am here; I will be working a 11-12 hour shift for the next 10 days and add sleep of at least 7 hours then I have to do other things That's like 6 hours max. I am still going to get on SL if I can everyday. if only for a few mins and post.
So if I cannot get on the forums(I'll get on sl at least) I am again asking one of you to sum it up if you'd be so kind to. I wish you all good luck on the things that may or may not progress without me.
.... a combo of Zenaku, Trev, Darkshinobi, Raifudo, Shinro, and Bocc.....
I wanna fight that guy, just saying.
So basically those of use who have full time jobs will not be permitted to host a tailed beast. I say this because lets be honest most of use are growing up. We can't get on everyday all day like we could when we were younger. I take myself as a prime example... I was in fact the most active person at SL at one point in time (I stand by that assumption :P ) but these days I can't get on to do my old methods because I work 40+ hours a week, travel to see my girl friend, and enjoy getting wasted.
I'd rather have the 12 post thing than a week to fight. Some of us may not even be able to get in 12 post a week. Say if I was facing someone from Europe who also has a full time job and what not. We could really only do one post a day each cause we wouldn't be on at the same time and would have to wait to get in from work each day to post a reply.
Okay here's the issue, while I get that you have a life and all the other things that come with it, you need to realize while you may want/deserve it you may not be able to have it. That being a host has a 2 week inactive span, but if you constantly only get on once every 2 weeks just to loophole the rules I will strip your ass. (Haha)
Look if you're on once every 3 days and take the time to post and such, I don't mind. Once a week? No. Long as it's like a schedule; Sat, an hour on Mon and 1 1/2 on Thursday I like it. If you can post and abide by the rules. Not asking a lot.
And this is where I have to deal with the inactive issue. Starting later today... it's like 3 am here; I will be working a 11-12 hour shift for the next 10 days and add sleep of at least 7 hours then I have to do other things That's like 6 hours max. I am still going to get on SL if I can everyday. if only for a few mins and post.
So if I cannot get on the forums(I'll get on sl at least) I am again asking one of you to sum it up if you'd be so kind to. I wish you all good luck on the things that may or may not progress without me.
Now Shadow, though it is a loophole in the rules, saying that once every two weeks is not valid is not really all that fair. People do have lives, and though we do not want too lively of people having the tailed beast, let's be reasonable. If it falls within the time of the rules, then so be it. Once every two weeks they fulfill said obligation/ritual, I say let 'em keep it.
RL comes first. That's always been the stated and unsaid rule among SL, and that isn't going to change anytime soon. If you can't get on at least once every two weeks, then you just can't have a tailed beast. If you can get on at least once every two weeks, then even if stretching it, it's fair that you can host a beast. Granted, that would make fights against said party very difficult, but unless we reduced the time in which a host has to be active to a week or something, then that is just the way it is.
Well unfortunately once every two weeks is the current rule. So you need to change that then.
Well unfortunately once every two weeks is the current rule. So you need to change that then.
Pretty sure I can strip it even then due to constant in-activeness. The reason it is two weeks is in the case something pops up and they have time to recuperate. It is not there to be abused and that is the exact same argument I will make to strip them. They are abusing the time limit not because they have real issues to attend to, but because they know they have to be on only once every 2 weeks.
Well unfortunately once every two weeks is the current rule. So you need to change that then.
Pretty sure I can strip it even then due to constant in-activeness. The reason it is two weeks is in the case something pops up and they have time to recuperate. It is not there to be abused and that is the exact same argument I will make to strip them. They are abusing the time limit not because they have real issues to attend to, but because they know they have to be on only once every 2 weeks.
That's not abuse then, you just don't like it. It isn't a loophole, it is explicitly what the rule states.
Well unfortunately once every two weeks is the current rule. So you need to change that then.
Pretty sure I can strip it even then due to constant in-activeness. The reason it is two weeks is in the case something pops up and they have time to recuperate. It is not there to be abused and that is the exact same argument I will make to strip them. They are abusing the time limit not because they have real issues to attend to, but because they know they have to be on only once every 2 weeks.
That's not abuse then, you just don't like it. It isn't a loophole, it is explicitly what the rule states.
So everyone besides me is in favor of this loophole then?
Well unfortunately once every two weeks is the current rule. So you need to change that then.
Pretty sure I can strip it even then due to constant in-activeness. The reason it is two weeks is in the case something pops up and they have time to recuperate. It is not there to be abused and that is the exact same argument I will make to strip them. They are abusing the time limit not because they have real issues to attend to, but because they know they have to be on only once every 2 weeks.
That's not abuse then, you just don't like it. It isn't a loophole, it is explicitly what the rule states.
So everyone besides me is in favor of this loophole then?
How about this. We make it a week instead of two weeks, and permit a week's extension if something comes up, and if folks are made aware of it before time is up.
It's not that we do not like the loophole, it's that, unless the rule is changed, then legitimately stripping people for technically following the rules would be, technically, wrong since, by our own admission, we allowed it (after all, the rule did state at least once every fortnight or something to that flavor).
If we shorten the time and have extra space to grant extensions for special cases, or if we separate needed activity during a fight and needed activity outside of a fight, then that would probably help reduce the impact of said loophole.
If we are going to mod it so it is extended back to two weeks if needed why not just leave it alone and stop wetting oursevles over the possibility of how someone might abuse the system?
If we are going to mod it so it is extended back to two weeks if needed why not just leave it alone and stop wetting oursevles over the possibility of how someone might abuse the system?
For the record, I am still dry. >.>
The point of this thread, in some ways, was to reduce the abuse factor of the rules; if/when folks abuse it, either they will come with some excuse that is very hard to refute (RL issues) or merely point out that they are within the margin of the rules.
The only thing I am wetting myself about is that, even if we modify the rules to great effect, we still can't have a proper shinobi world war. :cry: And that makes this panda sad.
I too would like to see more people here Kay, Shaodow sent a few links and I messages some people to come here. You can't force people to participate, even though it does feel wrong :oops:
We haven't really decided much, Uetto doesn't agree with the whole multi battle it going into a jar if someone is inactive, and the tournament still has a few kinks.
The sensing issue needs to be brought up (especially in the case of summoners) and we can go over the number of contestants in a match. We haven't moved to these topics cause other ones are not done (multi battle, which Uetto disagrees with and you could sneak in the number of combatants in a match into that topic as well. And the tournament has a very kinks.)
People have the right and power to voice their opinions and help lead the populace somewhere better. But if they never call their senator, use their right to vote, nor attend public meetings to address the concerning issue, then there is nobody else to blame but themselves for being unable to find it within themselves to truly stand up for what they believe in. Instead they would rather play the game of ignorance and believe things will get better by themselves. And when their blissful peace is suddenly rattled, they would rather point their fingers at the few who do let their voice be known and tote their arms at them, rather than look for any blame in themselves for what has become of their living situations.
America ya'll.
People have the right and power to voice their opinions and help lead the populace somewhere better. But if they never call their senator, use their right to vote, nor attend public meetings to address the concerning issue, then there is nobody else to blame but themselves for being unable to find it within themselves to truly stand up for what they believe in. Instead they would rather play the game of ignorance and believe things will get better by themselves. And when their blissful peace is suddenly rattled, they would rather point their fingers at the few who do let their voice be known and tote their arms at them, rather than look for any blame in themselves for what has become of their living situations.
America ya'll.
Quit SL and join our government. They'd love you there. Seriously though this is SL and I doubt the reason is more than them just being lazy and uncaring.
Then how would you solve it Kay? I'm all for people getting included and I've tried. So if you know of a better way than please share or do it and get people here. Otherwise I don't know what to tell you. As for the ridiculing and insults, I agree on that part. People who are outrageous, this is a game and there is no need. You know who I fault for this? Not the players, the moderators. We need more, and we need them to hand out more than little ''warnings''. There are no consequences, and thus players will be as mean as they want, cause nothing is going to shut them up and at most they get a slap on the wrist. But this is all dreadfully off topic.
I'm far too tired to say anything more than this right now: Those who care enough to come WILL come. If they don't, it's not our fault. If they don't like the rules that the few of us have modified, it's their fault that they decided to neglect the current topic, not ours. I will post the link again on all boards, unless someone else wants to be nice enough to do so while I nap.
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We made it public and want people to come, if they don't, their own fault.
In my opinion this is a poor excuse for a small handful of people trying to shove rules down everyone's throat. It's what you tell yourself to make it sound fine, when in fact it is nothing more than trying to dictate to others how things will work to benefit a specific interest group.
The reason why people do not come here to comment is because of the well deserved horrible reputation this forum has for getting things done. It is not known for resolving any issue. It is known for creating a place for people to insult and malign one another.
Now you can say if people cared they would come here to help out in deciding how things are to be.
It is not that people do not care.
It is that they no longer wish to participate in a forum where everything they say will be ridiculed or ignored in favor of name calling and personal insults being hurled at them.
And who's fault is that?
Those who treat people shamefully. Not the people who are tired of it and no longer come here.
Little example:
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This is about the most insulting thing a person can type. You are being cute, I know, but it is a slap in the face and means you think what someone has to say is not worth your time.
Why would anyone wish to come here to help out with anything when this is the general attitude their participation is begin met with?
A link to this thread was posted on ALL village boards and in MHQ so the community could see what's happening.
So, as many of you know we have moved past the 1v1 in a zone and we then moved to IC rules. Fun stuff. However there are a lot of loopholes and the new system can and is being abused pretty badly. Without further ado; bijuu rules modification.CURRENT RULESGuidelines
◾ (1) Jinchūriki are to be hunted in-character. As a requirement, knowledge as to their identity and location are mandatory to possess in order to legitimately locate them (not so much the latter if the jinchūriki is constantly roaming outside of a village).
◾ (2) Identity can be discovered if it's made common knowledge within a village and word gets around. Additionally an incredibly skilled sensor or another jinchūriki can sense and identify them if they're nearby within the same zone.
◾ (3) Location can be discovered through common knowledge similarly with identity. In the case of wandering jinchūriki, entering the zone they're in by chance and then using a sensor/jinchūriki is sufficient enough to locate them (so long as they have no safeguards preventing sensing up).
◾ (4) Jinchūriki have an obligation to roleplay, posting in a public location outside their village of residence at least once every fortnight for the length of a day, even if it's just to visit another village. Those unaffiliated with a village should either post in a village or in the zones.
◾ (5) Jinchūriki have an obligation to be active, and are stripped of their bijū if they cannot get online and do their round (1 post in public a fortnight), regardless of the reason. The leader of their clan will inherit the bijū; if the jinchūriki wasn't in a clan, then a tournament/event can be arranged to determine a suitable host.
◾ (6) Unless a jinchūriki has outstanding life force (from being either an Uzumaki, having Wood Release or from being downright immortal), they will die when stripped of their bijū. Else they will be left in a crippled state.
◾ (7) Tailed beasts must be sealed within a jinckurii within a week of capture. Tailed beasts may be captured yet still before that time since there is no grace period.
◾ (8) Or, a tailed beast may be treated as a summon of the user. However, control of the beast must be maintained via genjutsu, and the user is only capable of defensive moves while the beast is active. In order to lose possession of the tailed beast, the user must have their contract nullified, control lost of the tailed beast, and/or have the beast sealed by someone else.
◾(9) If a host is killed while still hosting the tailed beast, then the beast also dies. The challenger, technically then, loses; however, when the beast respawns within a week's time, they are permitted to participate in the fight for the beast. In the meantime, among the challenger and the challenged, a game master must be declared to control the beast itself.
The privilege to do so may be conceded to another party. If a decision has not been made due to a lack of choice availability, then the former host may control the tailed beast. Clear abuse of this will result in an official GM controlling the beast, the choice of which depends on availability and best two out of three for rock-paper-scisssors, with timestamps being used to limit hax.
◾ (10) The notion of real-time travel applies, where in cases a real day must elapse for one to travel from point A to B, with reductions depending on travel mode and obstacles between points. The Body Flicker Technique will not suffice as a suitable travel method, as opposed to summonings.
Those are the current rules. (If you couldn't tell) So now voice your concerns!
Guidelines
Jinchūriki
- Jinchūriki are to be hunted in-character. As a requirement, knowledge as to their identity and location are mandatory to possess in order to legitimately locate them (not so much the latter if the jinchūriki is constantly roaming outside of a village).
- Identity can be discovered if it's made common knowledge within a village and word gets around. Additionally an incredibly skilled sensor or another jinchūriki can sense and identify them if they're nearby within the same zone.
- Location can be discovered through common knowledge similarly with identity. In the case of wandering jinchūriki, entering the zone they're in by chance and then using a sensor/jinchūriki is sufficient enough to locate them (so long as they have no safeguards preventing sensing up).
- Jinchūriki have an obligation to roleplay, posting in a public location outside their village of residence at least once every fortnight for the length of a day, even if it's just to visit another village. Those unaffiliated with a village should either post in a village or in the zones.
- Jinchūriki have an obligation to be active, and are stripped of their bijū if they cannot get online and do their round (1 post in public a fortnight), regardless of the reason. The leader of their clan will inherit the bijū; if the jinchūriki wasn't in a clan, then a tournament/event can be arranged to determine a suitable host.
- Unless a jinchūriki has outstanding life force (from being either an Uzumaki, having Wood Release or from being downright immortal), they will die when stripped of their bijū. Else they will be left in a crippled state.
- The notion of real-time travel applies, where in cases a real day must elapse for one to travel from point A to B, with reductions depending on travel mode and obstacles between points. The Body Flicker Technique will not suffice as a suitable travel method, as opposed to summonings.
- Bijū can only be hosted in an object other than a proper host for no longer than one week. Otherwise they must remain sealed in a host, or be treated as a summon (elaborated below).
{Bijū as Summons}
- Bijū cost 20% of the user's total (not current) chakra to summon, even in succession.
- Bijū must be under the influence of genjutsu at all times while used as a summon. Regardless of the genjutsu's potency, it will tax 5% of the summoner's total (not current) chakra while it's actively being used as a summon, the taxation only ceasing when the bijū has been removed from the field. Techniques capable of transferring chakra from the bijū to the summoner are strictly prohibited from being used in this context.
- Summoners are restricted to one action per post, be it offensive or defensive so long as the bijū is summoned.
- Enhancements to the bijū, such as encasing it in Susanoo are prohibited.
- Bijū utilized in this manner will always possess a hateful disposition towards their summoner, this is static. -Should a chance ever arise and they gain the ability to act of their own volition, they will prioritize slaying their ex-summoner first, regardless of the presence of any other actors.
- If the summoner dies while the bijū is unsummoned and located in inaccessible territory (such as a pocket dimension), it will respawn within a week's time where the summoner was slain.
Tampering with the Bijū
- Tampering with the bijū, meaning: destroying it, altering its affinity, dividing its powers into multiple entities, etc. and any action that changes it from its known canon form is strictly prohibited.
As for the 12 posts option, Eric has switched sides, and like Shadow I'd also prefer a five day limit since people are concerned about time. Try to cut it down as much as we can. That leave Kay on 12 still, Eric on seven (maybe five) and a bunch of unaffiliated people who have yet to speak.
As for the 12 posts option, Eric has switched sides, and like Shadow I'd also prefer a five day limit since people are concerned about time. Try to cut it down as much as we can. That leave Kay on 12 still, Eric on seven (maybe five) and a bunch of unaffiliated people who have yet to speak.
I have not outright "switched sides". I said that I am willing to compromise if we consider that 12 posts may come sooner or later than how long we want things to drag on. Even if all doggy stuff is set aside and posts go smoothly one after the other, 12 posts could still be around how many posts a fight might last.
Not many fights that I have been in lasted twelve whole posts + (excluding intro posts) between both parties. 12 posts is a rather large amount of posts if you think about it, as most fights do not even last that long (presuming they are ever finished) between just two people.
As for the 12 posts option, Eric has switched sides, and like Shadow I'd also prefer a five day limit since people are concerned about time. Try to cut it down as much as we can. That leave Kay on 12 still, Eric on seven (maybe five) and a bunch of unaffiliated people who have yet to speak.
I have not outright "switched sides". I said that I am willing to compromise if we consider that 12 posts may come sooner or later than how long we want things to drag on. Even if all doggy stuff is set aside and posts go smoothly one after the other, 12 posts could still be around how many posts a fight might last.
Not many fights that I have been in lasted twelve whole posts + (excluding intro posts) between both parties. 12 posts is a rather large amount of posts if you think about it, as most fights do not even last that long (presuming they are ever finished) between just two people.
Are we talking posts altogether or turns?
Like 12 turns or 12 posts?
Are we talking posts altogether or turns?
Like 12 turns or 12 posts?
I don't understand the question, what's the difference? Each player gets 12 turns....that's 12 rounds of rp...12 posts...
Eric makes a good point...how many rounds did the Kiri RP get? 3? 4?
I forget.
Are we talking posts altogether or turns?
Like 12 turns or 12 posts?
I don't understand the question, what's the difference? Each player gets 12 turns....that's 12 rounds of rp...12 posts...
Eric makes a good point...how many rounds did the Kiri RP get? 3? 4?
I forget.
Are we talking posts altogether or turns?
Like 12 turns or 12 posts?
I don't understand the question, what's the difference? Each player gets 12 turns....that's 12 rounds of rp...12 posts...
Eric makes a good point...how many rounds did the Kiri RP get? 3? 4?
I forget.
12 posts is sometimes 1 turn. Look at bijuu fights or the Kiri rp. Shadowfire's 'turn' was like 2 pages long with detail.
12 turns will be unlimited amount of posts, but each player gets a set number of turns to post.
Player 1 -16 page post
Player 2 - 8 page post
Player 1 (Turn 2) 1 page post
Player 2 (Turn 2) 1/2 page post
(Players have 10 more 'turns')
vs
Player 1 - 12 posts
Player 2 - 12 posts
(Rp is over)
Are we talking posts altogether or turns?
Like 12 turns or 12 posts?
I don't understand the question, what's the difference? Each player gets 12 turns....that's 12 rounds of rp...12 posts...
Eric makes a good point...how many rounds did the Kiri RP get? 3? 4?
I forget.
12 posts is sometimes 1 turn. Look at bijuu fights or the Kiri rp. Shadowfire's 'turn' was like 2 pages long with detail.
12 turns will be unlimited amount of posts, but each player gets a set number of turns to post.
Player 1 -16 page post
Player 2 - 8 page post
Player 1 (Turn 2) 1 page post
Player 2 (Turn 2) 1/2 page post
(Players have 10 more 'turns')
vs
Player 1 - 12 posts
Player 2 - 12 posts
(Rp is over)
Well then, with that being on the same page, then 12 "turns" as you would call it then, per person.