Shinobi Legends Forum
Casual => Naruto => Topic started by: Bocchiere on September 10, 2014, 07:25:57 PM
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Final battle time!
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Dope
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Hm... Well, killing Sasuke might solve the problem, as he is now, without a doubt, the last Uchiha as far as canon shippuden Naruto goes.
Take his eyes, and bam. The power of the Sage without the pesky Uchiha problem.
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I'm surprised that Sasuke still has enough chakra to create nine separate Chibaku Tenseis and fight Naruto at the same time.
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I'm surprised that Sasuke still has enough chakra to create nine separate Chibaku Tenseis and fight Naruto at the same time.
Well, he has become a shinobilegend at this point...
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Multiple chibaku tensei are hardly an oddity in his case. Not only does he have a natural rinnegan and skill with the techniques, but a suitable body and power from Hagoromo too.
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Kishimoto has been taking notes from SL. Sasuke has unlimited chakra.
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So it is agreed-upon that SL can be considered unofficial canon.
That, or we're getting into GT levels of power levels.
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...skill with the techniques...
I would have to object there, Sasuke has hardly practiced any Rinnegan technique other than his teleport power. Many of the other one we have hardly see him use until this point where he randomly beaks out the chibaku tensei.
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...skill with the techniques...
Did he not say that he was growing adapt to the skills of the Rinnegan throughout the previous fight?
I would have to object there, Sasuke has hardly practiced any Rinnegan technique other than his teleport power. Many of the other one we have hardly see him use until this point where he randomly beaks out the chibaku tensei.
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Kishimoto has been taking notes from SL....
I said that like years ago >.>
Mainly because he keep stealing all the jutsu I created.
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...skill with the techniques...
I would have to object there, Sasuke has hardly practiced any Rinnegan technique other than his teleport power. Many of the other one we have hardly see him use until this point where he randomly beaks out the chibaku tensei.
Did he not say that he was growing adapt to the skills of the Rinnegan throughout the previous fight?
How? Just by observing them with his eyes? I mean, I understand copying techniques with tomoed Rinnegan, but mastering them to the point in which he can create enough chibaku tensei to trap the 9 tailed beasts?
Gimme a break. Not even in SL would you be able to get away with that without an explanation. And so far, "I grew adept while fighting an enemy user of said techniques" doesn't cut it in my opinion.
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...skill with the techniques...
I would have to object there, Sasuke has hardly practiced any Rinnegan technique other than his teleport power. Many of the other one we have hardly see him use until this point where he randomly beaks out the chibaku tensei.
Did he not say that he was growing adapt to the skills of the Rinnegan throughout the previous fight?
How? Just by observing them with his eyes? I mean, I understand copying techniques with tomoed Rinnegan, but mastering them to the point in which he can create enough chibaku tensei to trap the 9 tailed beasts?
Gimme a break. Not even in SL would you be able to get away with that without an explanation. And so far, "I grew adept while fighting an enemy user of said techniques" doesn't cut it in my opinion.
I think it has a lot more to do with his bloodline and natural ability. Everyone always praised his genius, and the rinnegan are really just advancements of his previous eyes which he did master.
Imagine riding a bike with training wheels then having them taken off and being forced to ride a race like that. Except you're a natural born cycling genius, and your whole family has been cyclers since the invention or bicycles.
It's not "that" surprising to me, honestly. I doubt the usage of the separate eye techniques are vastly different.
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...skill with the techniques...
I would have to object there, Sasuke has hardly practiced any Rinnegan technique other than his teleport power. Many of the other one we have hardly see him use until this point where he randomly beaks out the chibaku tensei.
Did he not say that he was growing adapt to the skills of the Rinnegan throughout the previous fight?
How? Just by observing them with his eyes? I mean, I understand copying techniques with tomoed Rinnegan, but mastering them to the point in which he can create enough chibaku tensei to trap the 9 tailed beasts?
Gimme a break. Not even in SL would you be able to get away with that without an explanation. And so far, "I grew adept while fighting an enemy user of said techniques" doesn't cut it in my opinion.
I think it has a lot more to do with his bloodline and natural ability. Everyone always praised his genius, and the rinnegan are really just advancements of his previous eyes which he did master.
Imagine riding a bike with training wheels then having them taken off and being forced to ride a race like that. Except you're a natural born cycling genius, and your whole family has been cyclers since the invention or bicycles.
It's not "that" surprising to me, honestly. I doubt the usage of the separate eye techniques are vastly different.
Natural ability? That's like saying Naruto has a natural ability towards Fuinjutsu, or that Neji had such a natural talent in the gentle fist that he did not even need to practice in order to learn the more advanced Hyuga techs. I find it kind of far-fetched personally, just short of saying that he copied/read the techniques using his Rinnegan-sharingan combo, and then, with his large pool of power, just went nuts with it.
As far as usage of the different eye techniques, I'm sure they're a bit different, unless you want to go physics to try and link space-time ninjutsu and the manipulation of gravity.
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...skill with the techniques...
I would have to object there, Sasuke has hardly practiced any Rinnegan technique other than his teleport power. Many of the other one we have hardly see him use until this point where he randomly beaks out the chibaku tensei.
Did he not say that he was growing adapt to the skills of the Rinnegan throughout the previous fight?
How? Just by observing them with his eyes? I mean, I understand copying techniques with tomoed Rinnegan, but mastering them to the point in which he can create enough chibaku tensei to trap the 9 tailed beasts?
Gimme a break. Not even in SL would you be able to get away with that without an explanation. And so far, "I grew adept while fighting an enemy user of said techniques" doesn't cut it in my opinion.
I think it has a lot more to do with his bloodline and natural ability. Everyone always praised his genius, and the rinnegan are really just advancements of his previous eyes which he did master.
Imagine riding a bike with training wheels then having them taken off and being forced to ride a race like that. Except you're a natural born cycling genius, and your whole family has been cyclers since the invention or bicycles.
It's not "that" surprising to me, honestly. I doubt the usage of the separate eye techniques are vastly different.
Natural ability? That's like saying Naruto has a natural ability towards Fuinjutsu, or that Neji had such a natural talent in the gentle fist that he did not even need to practice in order to learn the more advanced Hyuga techs. I find it kind of far-fetched personally, just short of saying that he copied/read the techniques using his Rinnegan-sharingan combo, and then, with his large pool of power, just went nuts with it.
As far as usage of the different eye techniques, I'm sure they're a bit different, unless you want to go physics to try and link space-time ninjutsu and the manipulation of gravity.
Ehh if I suddenly activated my 3 tomoe sharingan for the first time it would take me weeks to get used to it, but when Sasuke gets it he kicks Naruto's ass with it at first. It really also has a lot to do with him being Indra's reincarnation too I'd bet. So yeah, I'm sticking with pure natural talent. That's his main claim to fame in the series, he's a natural genius who can just pick up stuff and do it.
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...skill with the techniques...
I doubt Kishi actually desires your approval on what he make his character do lol.
I would have to object there, Sasuke has hardly practiced any Rinnegan technique other than his teleport power. Many of the other one we have hardly see him use until this point where he randomly beaks out the chibaku tensei.
Did he not say that he was growing adapt to the skills of the Rinnegan throughout the previous fight?
How? Just by observing them with his eyes? I mean, I understand copying techniques with tomoed Rinnegan, but mastering them to the point in which he can create enough chibaku tensei to trap the 9 tailed beasts?
Gimme a break. Not even in SL would you be able to get away with that without an explanation. And so far, "I grew adept while fighting an enemy user of said techniques" doesn't cut it in my opinion.
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Since that quote chain was getting so long, I decided to not quote. xD
Replying though, Sasuke advancing a tomoe is totally different from learning 3-tomoe specific techniques upon unlocking it. It was not until Part II that he was able to suppress the 9-tails influence using his sharingan. Due to Taijutsu training, he already had the speed and reflexes to counter Naruto, he just needed the insight to do so.
Which is what the 3rd tomoe granted him.
Indra's reincarnation might have granted him the spirit to get dat eternal mangekyou and all, but it's a stretch to say that it allowed him to master/become very adept at the Six Paths techniques just by mere observation of some of its usage.
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Rinnegan has previously been shown to allow people to use its powers with no effort. Obito gets an implanted Rinnegan and is immediately able to make use of all 6 Paths of Pain powers with no training, even though he only makes use of the Outer Path. In short, Rinnegan is bs.
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I disagree here actually. It was implied a fair deal Obito did the operation a good bit before the war started, so nothing too 'immediate' there. In Nagato's case its even more so; the rinnegan itself never permanently surfaced until much later, and even when it did plus during those brief moments before then he was either going berserk (as Obito hinted can happen) or doing it all instinctively.
From what I've seen it didn't happen to Sasuke right away at all either, the guy didn't even have a clue what he had just done at first from the first teleport. Will admit though that even so the comment he made of having gotten used to rinnegan abilities is a bit silly.
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Rinnegan has previously been shown to allow people to use its powers with no effort. Obito gets an implanted Rinnegan and is immediately able to make use of all 6 Paths of Pain powers with no training, even though he only makes use of the Outer Path. In short, Rinnegan is bs.
Unlike Sasuke, Obito has had some time to flesh out his abilities before using them anywhere near the scale Sasuke is right now. Not to mention he was trained by Madara (who would have no doubt taught him how to use the Rinnegan if he had planned on him reviving him in the first place) and, as I said earlier, had time before his battle to work the abilities some.
But no. Sasuke literally just jumps from being a newbie at the Rinnegan to using 9 chibaku tenseis. Even with the power of the Sage of Six paths, I am calling not just silly, but outright BS on that one.
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Rinnegan has previously been shown to allow people to use its powers with no effort. Obito gets an implanted Rinnegan and is immediately able to make use of all 6 Paths of Pain powers with no training, even though he only makes use of the Outer Path. In short, Rinnegan is bs.
Unlike Sasuke, Obito has had some time to flesh out his abilities before using them anywhere near the scale Sasuke is right now. Not to mention he was trained by Madara (who would have no doubt taught him how to use the Rinnegan if he had planned on him reviving him in the first place) and, as I said earlier, had time before his battle to work the abilities some.
But no. Sasuke literally just jumps from being a newbie at the Rinnegan to using 9 chibaku tenseis. Even with the power of the Sage of Six paths, I am calling not just silly, but outright BS on that one.
Fair enough.
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693 seriously needs to hit the internet already