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Title: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 26, 2015, 09:52:33 PM
Does this, To anyone else other than Mr. Bocchiere and myself, see this as a legit reason to deny a Biju challenge?

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I refuse. You lost because of a fault which was blatantly obvious, and you god-modded throughout. I don't view you as a contest.

Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 26, 2015, 09:54:40 PM
He's denying based on aspects that were seen in previous fights. His feelings are instead of wasting time fighting you and then having it voided cause you god mod he'd rather just deny you outright.

At least that's what I think Shark man is thinking.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 26, 2015, 09:58:25 PM
In the words of Senor Bocchiere! that's not a good reason. The whole reason there is a three month wait is so a challenger who loses can improve and then try again. It defeats the entire purpose if you can just deny anyone who loses to you from ever fighting again, because they made a mistake.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 26, 2015, 10:00:15 PM
In the words of Senor Bocchiere! that's not a good reason. The whole reason there is a three month wait is so a challenger who loses can improve and then try again. It defeats the entire purpose if you can just deny anyone who loses to you from ever fighting again, because they made a mistake.

I say he has to accept your challenge just looking at it from his POV.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Hitler-Chan on January 26, 2015, 10:02:40 PM
Kirigakure and I have a history of Bijuu oriented arguments. His reasoning for not having to fight you was that he doesn't see you as competition? Isaribi has history of going on long sprees of inactivity, a few of us have saved screen shots of the amount of days he has been inactive and should have been stripped automatically. A month ago or so I messaged Xia, asking about Isaribi, being as he had been inactive for at least 20 days at that point, and he told me nothing more than that he will contact Isaribi. I messaged Isa, challenging him for his Bijuu, and got nothing in reply.

Either he steps up and defends his Bijuu, or he gets stripped for breaking several rules regarding the ownership of a Bijuu.

Obviously some of you will be attracted to send hate towards me for my 'rudeness' towards them, but Ichirou as far as I'm concerned has done nothing to put himself on bad terms with them, and should be allowed to fight, regardless of whether Isa thinks he is any contest or not.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 26, 2015, 10:03:52 PM
Kirigakure and I have a history of Bijuu oriented arguments. His reasoning for not having to fight you was that he doesn't see you as competition? Isaribi has history of going on long sprees of inactivity, a few of us have saved screen shots of the amount of days he has been inactive and should have been stripped automatically. A month ago or so I messaged Xia, asking about Isaribi, being as he had been inactive for at least 20 days at that point, and he told me nothing more than that he will contact Isaribi. I messaged Isa, challenging him for his Bijuu, and got nothing in reply.

Either he steps up and defends his Bijuu, or he gets stripped for breaking several rules regarding the ownership of a Bijuu.

Obviously some of you will be attracted to send hate towards me for my 'rudeness' towards them, but Ichirou as far as I'm concerned has done nothing to put himself on bad terms with them, and should be allowed to fight, regardless of whether Isa thinks he is any contest or not.

Bruh myself, Bocc, and a lot of AKA members agree with you about Isa's inactiveness.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Bocchiere on January 26, 2015, 10:06:01 PM
Isa also did not follow the rule about having to post outside your village of residence, back when we were doing the IC rule set. So this isn't really new.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Hitler-Chan on January 26, 2015, 10:06:51 PM
If when he was active he fought actively and defended his Bijuu, then all would be right as rain. But not only does he not actively Rp as the rules lay out quite clearly, but he refuses to fight whenever he is online, which is basically never.

Maybe now is time for us to take a stand against their incessant rule breaking.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 26, 2015, 10:07:29 PM
I agree about the inactiveness. I thought that being active was part of being a host, If you're going to disappear for forever and not be stripped of your biju then I don't see why he even has the right to deny challenges, especially considering i've waited the proper time frame to challenge him a second time. Isaribi and I have interacted once, which was the first biju fight I had with him. Admittedly at the time I wasn't my best, but I for one think I've improved quite a lot since then. And feel as though I should be able to challenge the water breather a second time
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Hitler-Chan on January 26, 2015, 10:11:04 PM
Regardless of whether you have improved or not is irrelevant, if all of legalities are in your favor and against him then, then usually this is the part where someone gets stripped.

On a side note, Isaribi and Kirigakure had the nerve to strip me when I was the Sanbi's Jinck, for what? You guessed it. Inactivity. If they believe that they can bend the rules and have them work for them when they choose to, and we are bending over and taking it over a table, then who's fault is it really? Enough is enough.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 26, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
At this time he is not breaking any rules against you. >>

"3 times consecutively" He still has 1 or 2 more times to deny you, no?

However: Jinchūriki have an obligation to be active, and are stripped of their bijū if they cannot get online and do their round (1 post every week), regardless of the reason.


He is breaking that one.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Hitler-Chan on January 26, 2015, 10:15:39 PM
At this time he is not breaking any rules against you. >>

"3 times consecutively" He still has 1 or 2 more times to deny you, no?

However: Jinchūriki have an obligation to be active, and are stripped of their bijū if they cannot get online and do their round (1 post every week), regardless of the reason.


He is breaking that one.

And I will bet every damn cent I own, regardless of his obvious rule breaking, nothing will come of this.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 26, 2015, 10:18:28 PM
I really don't intend to let this continue to slide, So things might get naggish about Isaribi in the near future. I'll be bringing it to his attention that this isn't a good reason to deny me, So I suppose we will see where it goes from there?
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 26, 2015, 10:18:47 PM
At this time he is not breaking any rules against you. >>

"3 times consecutively" He still has 1 or 2 more times to deny you, no?

However: Jinchūriki have an obligation to be active, and are stripped of their bijū if they cannot get online and do their round (1 post every week), regardless of the reason.


He is breaking that one.

And I will bet every damn cent I own, regardless of his obvious rule breaking, nothing will come of this.

I'll start the strip process. ~
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 26, 2015, 10:21:21 PM
At this time he is not breaking any rules against you. >>

"3 times consecutively" He still has 1 or 2 more times to deny you, no?

However: Jinchūriki have an obligation to be active, and are stripped of their bijū if they cannot get online and do their round (1 post every week), regardless of the reason.


He is breaking that one.

And I will bet every damn cent I own, regardless of his obvious rule breaking, nothing will come of this.

I'll start the strip process. ~

I'm behind this guy, in more ways than two.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Hitler-Chan on January 26, 2015, 10:22:22 PM
At this time he is not breaking any rules against you. >>

"3 times consecutively" He still has 1 or 2 more times to deny you, no?

However: Jinchūriki have an obligation to be active, and are stripped of their bijū if they cannot get online and do their round (1 post every week), regardless of the reason.


He is breaking that one.

And I will bet every damn cent I own, regardless of his obvious rule breaking, nothing will come of this.

I'll start the strip process. ~

Been there done that. Here's how it's gonna go. As soon as someone begins that process they all jump on the topic like flies to rancid meat, claiming all sorts of things and using their numbers to sway the vote. Seen it happen too many times for this to be remotely fun.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 26, 2015, 10:24:21 PM
I don't think the strip process was ever intended to be fun, There's no poker OR alcohol involved.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Hitler-Chan on January 26, 2015, 10:25:14 PM
Let's keep this on topic Ichi. >_> especially if you want results.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 26, 2015, 10:32:48 PM
I'm still on topic, and I definitely want results.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Masane on January 26, 2015, 10:49:32 PM
denied me to
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Bocchiere on January 26, 2015, 10:51:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u8f6pE69k0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u8f6pE69k0)
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 26, 2015, 10:52:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u8f6pE69k0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u8f6pE69k0)

This is why I love you.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Hitler-Chan on January 26, 2015, 10:55:18 PM
I truly hate to say it but whenever you post a link or a picture of a meme, it's always on point. I'm dying right now xD
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 26, 2015, 11:06:48 PM
Anyway...keeping in mind the inactivity issue, there really is no defense against that and he should be stripped.

This will be how many times he has been stripped as a host now? The third time, or am I remembering things wrong? It might only be twice.

anyway, no communications from him has been made to the forum to alert anyone of extenuating circumstances, nor has any message been sent through a third party.

It's pretty clear the bijuu needs to be collected. And that is Xia's job at this point so please do keep the feeding frenzy down.

thank you


You want us to strip the inactive host and then give it to the inactive kage....? .-. k
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Hitler-Chan on January 27, 2015, 12:55:37 AM
One Rp every three months does not make one Active.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Old Man Xia on January 27, 2015, 01:32:42 AM
So i'm getting attacked with inactivity. Shame shame. I have been in Suna the past week and post when I can based on my schedule in rl life, but doesn't mean i'm inactive.

That being said, the rules also specify that if the host is inactive, the user shall be stripped and the bijuu will go back to Kiri's possession. You can't claim it as you will still have to issue another challenge to whom the new host will be, but that is something I have to discuss on who will be a suitable host first.

Now I have work to do...

Edit: Also if there was any instance of g-mod, I would even refuse to fight and go onto the next challenger, if I know for a fact this was proven true before the battle.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 27, 2015, 01:35:23 AM
So i'm getting attacked with inactivity. Shame shame. I have been in Suna the past week and post when I can based on my schedule in rl life, but doesn't mean i'm inactive.

That being said, the rules also specify that if the host is inactive, the user shall be stripped and the bijuu will go back to Kiri's possession. You can't claim it as you will still have to issue another challenge to whom the new host will be, but that is something I have to discuss on who will be a suitable host first.

Now I have work to do...

Yes Warren corrected me like 5 mins after I said you were inactive and I took it back. I'm the one keeping track of the things said on the topic and following rules with a level mind.

3-5 days I close the topic and Isa will be stripped. It will then move to you and you have a week to find a host or a champion to defend it within that time. You know all of this and so do I. Everything is all good.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Isaribi on January 27, 2015, 01:42:08 AM
Okay, look.

I denied Ichirou for reasons pertaining to god-modding, and bad god-modding at that. I do not think he has changed his ways, and am not willing to undergo the headache to find out until he can prove to me that he has.

Once again, y'all are ridiculous. I'm active, and always have been active. There have been a couple of times where I've hit a few day span where I haven't been on my main, and that is because of school or RL issues. However, I am usually good about getting online and answering my mail in the least. Currently, too, I am in the works of a big RP though am waiting for people to get unlocked from RPs elsewhere before I start.

Also, Kay, it has been once. By Bocchiere. Because Ranketsu screwed me. If you want to think I don't RP, you are a blatant liar.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Old Man Xia on January 27, 2015, 01:43:41 AM
Why the hell do we have 2 open posts of the same thing.... Close this one already as we can discuss in one thread.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 27, 2015, 01:45:04 AM
I think this one is more pertained to why he's denying Ichi and Masane. As such it needs to be kept open for that
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Nathan on January 27, 2015, 01:49:55 AM
I think this one is more pertained to why he's denying Ichi and Masane. As such it needs to be kept open for that

No, not really. All in favor of closing it?
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Dart Terumī on January 27, 2015, 01:54:19 AM
I think this one is more pertained to why he's denying Ichi and Masane. As such it needs to be kept open for that

No, not really. All in favor of closing it?

Close it. The redundancy is ridiculous between the two threads.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 27, 2015, 02:07:54 AM
I think this one is more pertained to why he's denying Ichi and Masane. As such it needs to be kept open for that

No, not really. All in favor of closing it?

Close it. The redundancy is ridiculous between the two threads.

Guy, this thread is pertaining to something different than the strip thread. This thread is discussing Why Isaribi was wrong in denying these challenges, and the other is discussing his inactivity. I'm pretty sure that's a difference.

As far as Isaribi, If you even read this post. You're denying my challenge because the last time we fought it was a struggle on your part. I'm not saying it wasn't. But The fact of the matter remains that you have no right to claim that I'm 'not a challenge' when you haven't fought me in over three months, you haven't even interacted with or spoken to me in that time, so your claims on me and my character are presumptuous. As you're assuming that because our last fight was tedious that this one will be as well, without giving any actual chance or effort to start the fight. Denying a challenge because of what happened last time isn't a sufficient reason. Now if you accepted this challenge and we got into it and the same crap was going on then you'd have a right, but at this point I don't believe you do.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Nathan on January 27, 2015, 02:10:03 AM
I think this one is more pertained to why he's denying Ichi and Masane. As such it needs to be kept open for that

No, not really. All in favor of closing it?

Close it. The redundancy is ridiculous between the two threads.

Guy, this thread is pertaining to something different than the strip thread. This thread is discussing Why Isaribi was wrong in denying these challenges, and the other is discussing his inactivity. I'm pretty sure that's a difference.

As far as Isaribi, If you even read this post. You're denying my challenge because the last time we fought it was a struggle on your part. I'm not saying it wasn't. But The fact of the matter remains that you have no right to claim that I'm 'not a challenge' when you haven't fought me in over three months, you haven't even interacted with or spoken to me in that time, so your claims on me and my character are presumptuous. As you're assuming that because our last fight was tedious that this one will be as well, without giving any actual chance or effort to start the fight. Denying a challenge because of what happened last time isn't a sufficient reason. Now if you accepted this challenge and we got into it and the same crap was going on then you'd have a right, but at this point I don't believe you do.

If he is getting stripped then all problems should be discussed in that topic. Having two topics is redundant and not needed; however, I'll keep it open if there is enough demand. If not, and so far there isn't, then it will be closed.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Ѕhadow on January 27, 2015, 02:11:04 AM
Should be kept open if indeed the stripped topic is not granted.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 27, 2015, 02:20:55 AM
Should be kept open if indeed the stripped topic is not granted.

I agree with Madashadow here, This topic was primarily made on the instance of Isaribi's non legitimate (in my opinion) reason for denying my challenge, Thus is he is not stripped for his inactivity anyway, this should remain here to discuss the challenge.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Masane on January 27, 2015, 02:35:47 AM
I agree that this needs to stay open. He denied me because of a character change and I was next on the list. It's been about a while since I did this change and that is not a reason to deny a challenge that he already accepted
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Dart Terumī on January 27, 2015, 02:36:09 AM
Isa's computer died. But he says he will accept their challenges under the stipulation that they are actual IC hunts with real IC consequences.

I.e. if you die in the match, you die in the SL RP world. And you have to actually work on getting the knowledge he is the jinchūriki of Isobu. Cannot claim to just "have" the knowledge, have to acquire it by interacting with people who would have it already.

EDIT:
@Eric: Since his preferences are usually the IC hunt route, it is technically "safer" for him to be "confined" to home.

Anyways. He will post when his com gets a charge. And will aim to make more frequent posts. And Ichirou and Masane get their challenges.

So, topic has been successfully answered. Lock?
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Garō, Ichirou on January 27, 2015, 03:02:44 AM
I'm good for lock now, these matters are solved and with matters on the other topic this one is all but sealed up.
Title: Re: Here's another one of these topics.
Post by: Masane on January 27, 2015, 04:12:14 AM
Agreed