Shinobi Legends Forum
Roleplay => Village Square => Topic started by: Kage on May 23, 2015, 03:10:13 AM
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So with the series continuing on a bit with the gaiden and Boruto's movie, do you guys believe we should start incorporating some technological advancements that they have made in the manga into the series?
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I honestly don't see why not. As long as we continue to avoid guns, I am fine with people claiming the newest macbook pro so they can surf ninjabook.
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We already have rockets and shit.
Just, as said, no guns. :P
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I already have rp'd watching SL Netflix, so I'm way ahead of the curve. If you guy's wanna hit up Genesis, call 867-5309...that's right, I'm claiming Jenny's number.
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Kumogakure has earpieces for communication, like walkie talkies or those bluetooth thingies.
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I'm one of the more technological characters out there. And even if you guys decide to stay in the dark age, I'm not going to change my character lol But no reason not to get with the times. Just opens up more RP opportunity.
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Its not all that difficult to involve quite advanced things in RP without going all modern much less sci-fi up in hur though.
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We'd obviously need to limit some things.
There's game called Fallout. If you haven't heard of it or played it I suggest to do so. (Favorite game)
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Divergence
http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/32284/why-is-the-culture-in-fallout-stuck-in-the-1950s
Anywho while the game has some MAJOR advanced technology their culture is still stuck in the 1950's era. So you'd see Iron Man suits (Called Power Armor) yet you'd also see and hear old music from said era. So I say do something like the game does. Keep the culture where it is yet have some advanced stuff. Which seems to be the way Kishimoto is doing it.
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I've actually produced power suits for another player already. And I probably will make more if anyone wants me to. I'm trying to get an RP started where I do experiments on other players, but no one seems to want to participate lol And I only experiment on the voluntary.
I think it's fun to try RPing as basically an advanced being in this ninja world who can't use any ninja tricks.
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It's pretty funny that people say things like "No! Ninjas can't have guns!" but it's perfectly fine when you shoot a bone bullet out of your fingertips and describe that it's traveling at the same speed at an actual bullet (usually, they say the caliber). But also, it's more penetrative than a bullet too. Or just swap out bone bullet with *INSERT ELEMENT HERE* bullet and it's the same thing. Hell, I saw someone once in the zones with basically a kunai gatling gun (holy heck, that'd be terrifying. Like a chainsaw shotgun). Or maybe it was doton, I don't remember.
And why do you even need technology? The cities all apparently have giant barriers around them (and people can probably project these barriers too, up to several km) that acts better than sonar and can detect EVERYTHING, even stuff beneath the ground. I mean seriously, when you have stuff like that but gripe over an iPod (an example) you should realize that your priorities are probably in the wrong place.
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We'd probably have to see what is now confirmed for being new canon technology. Cellphones and computers with networking have been a given. And for custom stuff, we would have to tread pretty carefully.
One of the things that I've been wanting to implement for some of the ninja in my village is power frames. Something exhibited as a fun color spread from Kishimoto. Three advantages that would be exhibited from this is increased strength (though nothing as strong as Sage Mode), carrying of additional weapons and tools, and more defense provided by the plating on the armor itself. It doesn't seem that far-fetched, since my village pumps out metal like nothing.
http://www.mangastream.to/naruto-chapter-663-page-3.html
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We limit technology and everything else that isn't really Naruto. If you want Soul Reapers go on LoB, if you want vampires *insert site here dont want another perma banned account* if you want such-and-such *inset another site* Like I said my opinion is to allow a little of anything from anywhere, but not a lot of it.
I don't want to log on SL one day and see someone claiming to be Iron Man and immune to ninja techniques cause his suit 'absorbs' all chakra cause it's so fancy (you alreadyyyyy knowww) I mean he'd be voided to all hell, but I'd rather not even see it happen.
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Shadow, you know that this is probably the most active LotGD site out there. So telling people who want to possibly RP different things to leave this site is not really a viable option. But I believe that a little bit of different stuff should be allowed here, because it can add a lot to the game. The only people preventing stuff like that from happening is people like you who want to prevent other people from expanding their imagination. Hell, I ran into someone who was using Ki from DBZ. You know what I did? I encouraged him to keep rocking on because it was fun for him. And Madara, you know you basically just described someone who uses Rinnegan? If they use one body, they can just use the Ausra path to basically become Iron Man and use Preta path to absorb all chakra. But if you suddenly make a suit that does the same thing (let's say for someone who's been playing for a long time and has maxed out resets just for semantics), you're evil and voided for doing a bad thing. So like I said, pretty much everything that can be done through 'technology' can already be done through various jutsu anyway.
And Kage, I'm worried about what you said. Basically saying that we have to tread carefully about what we do and that we can't do specific things until Kishimoto shows us it's possible is a bit stupid. And you kind of made it sound that once (for example) power frames are canon, your village will be the one to 'claim' the ability to make them and anyone else should be voided. That's probably one of the big problems around here, is the whole claiming thing.
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So is everyone cool with me turning my Susanoo into a Gundam via Asura Path?
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Quite funny to be able to feel the hostility through text alone. We live in 2015 already, flip phones are a thing of the past, dial-up is unheard of and today's media is just utter garbage. Who's to say that SL or even the naruto series isn't catching up with the times. Yet, I feel as if some enjoy going above and beyond far-fetched ideas when it comes to such. The problem with SL isn't the claimed, since its quite easy to get things if you truly want it. The problem is with the keyboard warriors of the game being power hungry. That is mostly why I RP with NPC's and those who I have known for years, since they aren't the type to try and be invincible; something people seem to think is a norm now-a-days.
Last I checked, none of us are Kishimoto and don't have the answers as to how the naruto-world works. Which is why we cannot be certain until Kishimoto displays such. I mean for a long time coming, we had no idea that in order to posses the Rinnegan one must be of Uchiha blood and have the EMS unlocked (Have yet to see someone actually go through such process IC) then successfully implant Senju DNA(not as easy as it seems) to ultimately unlock the Rinnegan. So now I see people wish for ninja to have said similar powers simply by 'creating' a body suit? Might as well just give everyone a tailed beast, all KG and an immunity to everything while we are at it, you know because we are so 'technologically advanced' lol.
Even for a modern world the ninja's way of life is to stick to tradition. Mind me, the whole purpose of creating characters is to be ninja. Or thats what I signed up for. Thats like questioning how spongebob is able to have a campfire, while living underwater. Its the way things work for such a fantasy land. Our fantasy land isn't composed of Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, One Piece, or whatever. ITs naruto, plain and simple. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T INCORPORATE OTHER STYLES AND INFLUENCES FROM OTHER ANIME'S! But its gotta be done with regulation. Theres a lot of questionable things in the naruto realm, but we work with such because that is how it was given to the audience. My belief is that shinobi have the abilities and powers to be better than the technological advances we have in todays world. I mean who needs a nuclear bomb when you have techniques such as Fury or Tailed Beast Bombs. Sometimes you just gotta stop making things advanced and stick with the simplicity of what was given to us.
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lol, I'm just gonna keep doing what I do with what I do.
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Shadow, you know that this is probably the most active LotGD site out there. So telling people who want to possibly RP different things to leave this site is not really a viable option. But I believe that a little bit of different stuff should be allowed here, because it can add a lot to the game. The only people preventing stuff like that from happening is people like you who want to prevent other people from expanding their imagination. Hell, I ran into someone who was using Ki from DBZ. You know what I did? I encouraged him to keep rocking on because it was fun for him. And Madara, you know you basically just described someone who uses Rinnegan? If they use one body, they can just use the Ausra path to basically become Iron Man and use Preta path to absorb all chakra. But if you suddenly make a suit that does the same thing (let's say for someone who's been playing for a long time and has maxed out resets just for semantics), you're evil and voided for doing a bad thing. So like I said, pretty much everything that can be done through 'technology' can already be done through various jutsu anyway.
And Kage, I'm worried about what you said. Basically saying that we have to tread carefully about what we do and that we can't do specific things until Kishimoto shows us it's possible is a bit stupid. And you kind of made it sound that once (for example) power frames are canon, your village will be the one to 'claim' the ability to make them and anyone else should be voided. That's probably one of the big problems around here, is the whole claiming thing.
Let me expand upon certain points in my post.
We'd probably have to see what is now confirmed for being new canon technology. Cellphones and computers with networking have been a given. And for custom stuff, we would have to tread pretty carefully.
One of the things that I've been wanting to implement for some of the ninja in my village is power frames. Something exhibited as a fun color spread from Kishimoto. Three advantages that would be exhibited from this is increased strength (though nothing as strong as Sage Mode), carrying of additional weapons and tools, and more defense provided by the plating on the armor itself. It doesn't seem that far-fetched, since my village pumps out metal like nothing.
http://www.mangastream.to/naruto-chapter-663-page-3.html
The first high-lighted point addresses custom technology stuff. Though really, this should be said for custom stuff in general. We should tread carefully with a yellow light about what custom things we make, either it be jutsu or technology. Sure taking some canon things and combining, enhancing or altering it into something customized is a lot easier to swallow. But something totally new and unknown can be hard to take sometimes.
The second highlight is there because I'm simply saying that I've been wanting to, but I would rather take some input from the community first on whether or not it would be plausible or acceptable.
The third highlight is emphasizing that it was a simple fun color spread that Kishi illustrates sometimes. Like the wizard-ninja color spread and the samurai-ninja color spread that was also done. I'm just saying that it was inspired from that. Though that doesn't mean that it's canon material, which I already knew.
But really, this is all about what the community is willing to accept in terms of custom stuff. Because something could sound cool and really acceptable in your own head, but by the time you try to execute it, people could have varying opinions. This is why I encourage discussion with others on things you work on yourself. Essentially, you can bling yourself out all you want, but if no one is going to find your bling something acceptable/valuable, then you're just in your own world of value. And the point of RPing is to do it with others. But otherwise, you're just writing your own head-canon/fanfiction.
It's not like I'm trying to implement blinged-out Ame Ninjabots wielding AK-47s. That would be something totally unacceptable. (See below)
(https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/AzureFlame_Kite/ame%20ninjabots_zps7nvf7nj8.jpg)
Though to help justify my cause for Power Frames, I do have the authority, resources, man-power and capital in order to create and produce them. But like I said, some input from the community would be nice.
(https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/AzureFlame_Kite/ame%20power%20frame_zpsng2iyiyg.jpg)
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I would have helped produce power suits in Ame, but I really didn't like the way anything was handled in Ame. Everyone seemed way to powerful. But I think that's just a trait that people on this site has in general. But that's why I left the city. You guys were no fun lol
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And there is Chakra Armor which is "sort of" like a Naruto-verse Power Armor.
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So with the series continuing on a bit with the gaiden and Boruto's movie, do you guys believe we should start incorporating some technological advancements that they have made in the manga into the series?
Sure is the short answer. Just like jutsu, people will accept what they will accept; you make something unacceptable those who find it such will either ignore it, call you out on it, or otherwise reject said technology.
To start bringing meteors down at a push of a button, without exerting chakra at all, is a hyperbolic example that comes to mind that would likely be voided, though sometimes I don't think "void" is as popular a choice as it used to be, and perhaps for the better in many cases.
I am pretty sure cellular technology is not exactly going to devatate much, nor internet surfing (Jiraiya could have loved to have seen that. Imagine all the images he could look up!). Even power suits that absorb chakra might not cause too many issues as long as it has a reasonable weakness to it.
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I mean c'mon now. You guys are acting as if us ninja don't already have things similar to such. xD
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Infinite_Armour
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Chakra_Armour
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Shinobi_Battle_Armour
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Steam_Armour
Kunai launcher as close as we are to guns? http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Handheld_Kunai_Launcher
Atleast got dart guns: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Injection_Shot_Sniper
Even got drones: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Flying_Destruction_Machine
Toneri got them portal hax: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Moon_Transportation_Device
worlds best lie detector test: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mind_Reading_Amplification_Machine
Also even found this nifty page based on the topic at hand:
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Technology
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See, Keito's got it. Basically, everything that can be done with 'technology' is already done by chakra or already presented in a way within the anime/manga. So people who are using 'technology' as a basis to their characters/inventions/jutsu, are just painting something that already exists a different color.
And people seem to forget that Naruto does have guns in it. Or at least, Kiri does.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-24-7/naruto/chapter-19.html
Look behind the counter.
Basically, the way I look at it. Just RP with anyone and everyone. If you have an issue with anything they have/do, question them. Just send them a friendly PM saying, "Hey, I don't understand *thing*, could you explain why/how your character has it?" Or something like that. Just don't be nasty to each other like some players tend to be.
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Susanoo is just a chakra gundam.
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See, Keito's got it. Basically, everything that can be done with 'technology' is already done by chakra or already presented in a way within the anime/manga. So people who are using 'technology' as a basis to their characters/inventions/jutsu, are just painting something that already exists a different color.
And people seem to forget that Naruto does have guns in it. Or at least, Kiri does.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-24-7/naruto/chapter-19.html
Look behind the counter.
Basically, the way I look at it. Just RP with anyone and everyone. If you have an issue with anything they have/do, question them. Just send them a friendly PM saying, "Hey, I don't understand *thing*, could you explain why/how your character has it?" Or something like that. Just don't be nasty to each other like some players tend to be.
Did you just look up guns in Naruto or something? Because I cannot even wrap my head around how you saw that minute detail, and remembered it for this thread after it being 14+ years since that chapter was released.
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See, Keito's got it. Basically, everything that can be done with 'technology' is already done by chakra or already presented in a way within the anime/manga. So people who are using 'technology' as a basis to their characters/inventions/jutsu, are just painting something that already exists a different color.
And people seem to forget that Naruto does have guns in it. Or at least, Kiri does.
http://www.mangareader.net/93-24-7/naruto/chapter-19.html
Look behind the counter.
Basically, the way I look at it. Just RP with anyone and everyone. If you have an issue with anything they have/do, question them. Just send them a friendly PM saying, "Hey, I don't understand *thing*, could you explain why/how your character has it?" Or something like that. Just don't be nasty to each other like some players tend to be.
Did you just look up guns in Naruto or something? Because I cannot even wrap my head around how you saw that minute detail, and remembered it for this thread after it being 14+ years since that chapter was released.
lol just search "guns in naruto" or something similar in google and you'll find links to it.
I'm also pretty sure Kishimoto said that guns have no place in the Naruto world, although I was thinking of implementing a chakra gun. >> Cool idea right. I know, I'm genius.
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Did you just look up guns in Naruto or something? Because I cannot even wrap my head around how you saw that minute detail, and remembered it for this thread after it being 14+ years since that chapter was released.
Actually, I remembered it because way back when in SL before all the regulatory garbage made SL the place we know it is today there was another user who used guns. Me (being the dumb teen I was back in 2005/6) said, "There's no guns in Naruto, you can't do that." So he proved me wrong by showing that picture. I remembered that moment, but had no idea where the page was. So I googled 'guns in Naruto', found the page, then remembered what chapter it was around and searched until I found it.
So yeah, he used a kind of chakra gun and we all had fun doing stupid RPs together.
And I agree on Susanoo being a chakra gundam.
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Don't get me started with Gundam and applying some of it's hacks to Susanoo. (I'm disturbingly-versed in both subjects.)
But back to the subject, as you can see below Naruto is clearly browsing something on his docked LeafPad. And there seem to be three separate consoles on the wall of his family's home in the background.
(https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e365/AzureFlame_Kite/angry%20japanese%20man%20berates%20delinquent%20son_zpsywvrr2vd.jpg)
It's safe to say that the motherboard and modern-day transistors are prevalent in ninja society now. Now whether or not people would like to use guns can be up-in-the-air with some people. But really, it's not much of an advantage over ninjas. Especially with ninjas that possess crazy eye techniques, whom might I add, are very plentiful in our day and age. Or even ninjas with good reflexes and/or speed.
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I believe Shizune used a DNA sequencer when she analysed the white zetsu. Pretty high tech stuff there. And has one of those test tube centrifuges to separate plasma from the red blood cells.
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Did you just look up guns in Naruto or something? Because I cannot even wrap my head around how you saw that minute detail, and remembered it for this thread after it being 14+ years since that chapter was released.
Actually, I remembered it because way back when in SL before all the regulatory garbage made SL the place we know it is today there was another user who used guns. Me (being the dumb teen I was back in 2005/6) said, "There's no guns in Naruto, you can't do that." So he proved me wrong by showing that picture. I remembered that moment, but had no idea where the page was. So I googled 'guns in Naruto', found the page, then remembered what chapter it was around and searched until I found it.
So yeah, he used a kind of chakra gun and we all had fun doing stupid RPs together.
And I agree on Susanoo being a chakra gundam.
But think of the advantages of it being mechanical. If a swipe of a Perfect Susanoo sword can cut mountains, think of lasers or rockets in a mechanical variant. No absorbing that sucker either or chakra negating defenses.
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But think of the advantages of it being mechanical. If a swipe of a Perfect Susanoo sword can cut mountains, think of lasers or rockets in a mechanical variant. No absorbing that sucker either or chakra negating defenses.
Just like everything else, for the players that are going the technology route, they are ultimately in charge of moderating their actions. My character is probably one of the most technologically advanced characters in this game, but I feel like I do a good part at not being super crazy. I have no intention of making giant lazer beams that can match what Susanoo can do. To be fair, Susanoo is extremely powerful. Sure, I have a few rockets, but I will probably never use them. Just like America's got a huge supply of nukes, they're probably not going to be using them any time soon.
So basically, just like everything else in this game, it's up to the players to moderate their character's abilities and keep them grounded outside the realm of god-modding.
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Bumping this topic with a new picture from the new movie.
(http://s24.postimg.org/hg1gch6df/pta.png)
-空も陸もお任せ！便利な乗り物が色々誕生！！
-Entrust the skies and lands to me! It’s the creation of various convenient vehicles!
-近代化した木ノ葉隠れの里に、新しい乗り物が登場！里の人たちの手段もすごく便利になったよう だ！！
-In the modernized Konohagakure Village, new vehicles have appeared! It seems to have become a very convinient means of transportation for the people of the village!
-田舎の駅と、雷のエネルギーを用いて稼働する電車。見た目は、どちらかというと汽車に近い…？
-It’s the station at the countryside. It uses lightning energy for the operation of the electric train. If you had to describe it, it looks like a steam-powered train…?
-木ノ葉マークをあしらった飛行船は、なんと火影専用！ナルトはこの飛行船に乗って他の里に行っているのか！ ？
-It’s a private blimp for the Hokage that’s affixed with the symbol of Konoha! When Naruto is riding on this blimp, he goes to other villages!?
-木ノ葉隠れの里もずいぶんと変わったな…
-Konohagakure Village has really changed, eh…
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The link is broken.
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Link? It should be just an image. And it displays perfectly fine for me. Is anyone else having this issue?
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Not showing for me at least, both that and your signature show just a broken link picture.
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Shows up for me.
Makes me sad >.> Liked the supposed time of Naruto.
This modern stuff makes me uneasy.
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I get the broken link image. Again, using google chrome here.
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Huh. Strange. Let me try again. I'll post the image and a link to the image. I used a different uploading site this time.
http://oi61.tinypic.com/htbl6q.jpg
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/htbl6q.jpg)
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Ooooooooooooh.
Heads up, laying train tracks across the desert is a bad idea. The sand worms would eat them for snacks.
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You just have to figure out what repels sand worms and coat the tracks in that. Just like in One Piece where the Marines coat the bottom of ships with sea stone to keep sea kings away from the ships.
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stuffs Becquerel inside a spare Kamui someone left lying around.
"uhm...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. he is just the maintenance crew. Sand worms are invincible. Nothing to see here folks, move along."
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The airship isn't so strange, doesn't take terribly high tech stuff, I recall it was in the novel about Kakashi's time between last shippuuden chap and the last movie. Kinda interested in how'd the train work though, since it looks electric, not steam.
And kairouseki isn't so much a repellant, as it is a means to make the ships appear invisible to sea kings. For sand worms there isn't really anything they dread besides water in notable amounts, and I doubt I'd have to explain why that wouldn't really work across a desert.