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Rules/Foundation / Keeping track of beast transitions
« on: May 25, 2018, 04:22:25 am »
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A host must create a thread with the name of his or her bijuu in the title to the Bijuu Arena board, and use this thread to: state his or her preference for battle, keep a list of challengers, indicate if he or she is a new host and when his or her grace period will be over, and post any notices of absence.

Howdy,

In cleaning up the Mazou thread I came across a conundrum where, for record keeping purposes (especially in the longer term) I thought it necessary to keep at the bare minimum a few posts to explain the transition. While my intentions for a challenger thread would have been to keep a record of all official challenges and transitions that have occurred ever via different challenge threads or all kept in one per beast, as there had been some initial resistance to adopting official challenge threads way back when. As one can tell by the challenge threads, that has not necessarily been the way the threads have been kept since then as previous challengers' records have been deleted on numerous occasions.

Bearing that in mind, I stopped at removing the challenges after Yomi's but before her claim post because I am not sure if leaving just hers would serve the purpose of record keeping, or if we are even doing that at all.

There was the record keeping in the "current in-game jinchurikii and summoners" thread but that too is an incomplete record at this current point in time.

So, my question is, how are we, if at all, do we keep track of beast changing hands beyond who is the "current" host?

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Just wondering if the rule for mastery includes IC berserk events. Like say I've mastered Version 1 but in an out of control state, enter Version 2. Is that a no go? Or is it only if I claim to be in control of the Version 2 state as I would Version 1?

Going into berserk state is an automatic forfeit in a biju mach:

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If a host goes over their mastery for any reason at any time during a biju match, it is considered an automatic forfeit by the host.

Outside of a battle for the beast (even an IC one), like for training or RPing an event that cannot be classified as a biju match of any kind, then while it still counts as going over mastery, it can be done without forfeit of the beast. But if it is done in a setting that could as a biju match, then it is a no go no matter what from what I have read of this rule.

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Alrighty, its been two weeks since this was brought up. I will gladly take it into my possession if there be no objections.

Objection.

Inactivity means that there is a hierarchy of claimants, depending on the order in which there was a challenge or stated interest for the beast.

1) Yomi    [5/08/2018 at 2:50:59 am]
2) Camel  [5/08/2018 at 8:25:33 pm]
3) Uchiha Madara  [May 10, 2018, 04:01:49 pm]
4) Nekomaru  [May 12, 2018, 01:12:36 am]
5) Athos [May 22, 2018, 07:38:08 pm]

If Yomi doesn't want it, then it goes to Camel. If Camel does not want it then you get it Madara, with Nekomaru as your first challenger. That's the order of the challenge list, that's the order of the creature claim.

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5/24/2018

This post will serve as the "placeholder" to explain the transition of the beast from Vail to Yomi, along with Yomi's original claim post. The date and time of claim will be forum time and be next to each person's name in my original post above. As Camel pointed out this is not a priority list for challengers once grace period is up, new challenges will have to be issued after that time.

Yomi's post accepting the tailed beast after any uncertainty was cleared up has also been preserved for grace period related reasons, just in case there is uncertainty about that start date, there are 2 logical places for it to have started rather than just 1. If the grace were to start from the 8th it would already be over ( 14 days and all) so I am under the impression it will start on the 22nd (correct/challenge me on this if I'm wrong, in new thead please).

** Athos added post post script, had not noticed that he also issued a challenge at one point **

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Council / Re: Inactive Hosts Protocol
« on: May 19, 2018, 02:19:14 am »
So does that mean since jestar has been offline for 18 plus days I can put in for chomei? If so I would like to do so.

It's as good as yours.

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Game Related Discussions / What do I do now?
« on: May 16, 2018, 03:03:16 pm »
Originally I had this super long almost confessional message written out about how I feel and how I came to this point and blah blah blah.

I decided that less is more in this case, and anyone who wants to know those specifics can private message me.

Anyways, I've been a tailed beast host and summoner, I have been an ANBU, a Sannin, a lawyer (forum), a secretary (forum), a student, written debater (both), a very awkward lover, a terrible sibling, a bad and good mentor, a clan leader, a good and bad role model (who knew right?) etc. Probably the only thing that has eluded me at this point that I had serious interest in at one point has been the rank of -kage, in particular Hokage.

Any other suggestions for what I might can get into that might can motivate me to RP again?

I mean, in addition to the above I have also reset a few times in-game, but I have been kind of bored of the rinse-repeat in-game orokill-reset thing for awhile ever since they stopped counting as heavily for RP powers (by that time RPing had become more important to me than playing the game). RPing was replaced by Foruming some months back in a rather cynical twist of priorities, so for anyone who asks why I lost interest in RPing, that's the short version of it.

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Council / Re: Inactive Hosts Protocol
« on: May 15, 2018, 10:03:50 pm »
I mean that is how the inactivity clause works. Goes to next in line with whomever voiced documented interest first. No challenges or battles. Straight up: first come, first serve.

If they canít even participate in the challenge, then how can we expect them to fulfill the activity clause in actually possessing the beast?

Just making sure there was a topic made on this, a summer might see a in or out flux of activity for some hosts compared to say Christmas time.

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Council / Inactive Hosts Protocol
« on: May 12, 2018, 07:54:00 am »
So fellow members of the Council, because I of all people will be the first to complain if there is no formal Council proceeding for this, I am posting this topic with this question:

Assuming that any hosts and/or challengers that are way past due on activity requirements have their beasts/creatures up for free claim? This is after priority is given to current active challengers of course.

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I told myself I'll stay away from bijuu matters, but heck... maybe I can try injecting it into IC roleplay somehow.
So perhaps this is me stating my interest in hosting the beast... if no one wants it?

https://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,9477.msg237055.html#msg237055

Sabu was the last active challenger I had, but considering how the discussions on the RP hunt ended, to my understanding if he is still active and/or interested he would have first dibs. I did try to RTS it, but nothing there either, so, long story short, as long as Sabu is no longer vying for the beast then it is up for grabs at this point, as far a I understand it.

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Bijuu Arena / Re: Current In-game Jinchūriki and Summoners
« on: May 06, 2018, 07:05:44 am »
I have formally given up my possession of the 5-tails.

Thanks for letting everyone know, but I have a question...two questions actually. Are you letting someone else take reigns of the Five-Tails or just letting us know that it's up for grabs for now?

https://forum.shinobilegends.com/index.php/topic,9477.msg237055.html#msg237055

Sabu was the last active challenger I had, but considering how the discussions on the RP hunt ended, to my understanding if he is still active and/or interested he would have first dibs. I did try to RTS it, but nothing there either, so, long story short, as long as Sabu is no longer vying for the beast then it is up for grabs at this point, as far a I understand it.

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Bijuu Arena / Re: Current In-game Jinchūriki and Summoners
« on: May 05, 2018, 04:33:06 pm »
I have formally given up my possession of the 5-tails.

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This honestly should have happened a long time ago, but this is me officially relinquishing the 5-tails, as I have not and probably will not for quite some time be active enough to really do anything with it RPwise. I regret that this turned out to be the better of my options.

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Village Square / Re: When Succ meets another Succ
« on: April 03, 2018, 05:27:55 am »
https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/boruto-naruto-next-generations/en/0/21/page/39

That and the next page are the moment I assume you are talking about.

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The Wood Dragon jutsu has the preexisting feature of negating other chakra absorption techniques. This, in my opinion, is the only reason it was able to stop the preta path.

My opinion is different in this regard:

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wood_Release:_Wood_Dragon_Technique (the trivia section)
http://ww2.readnaruto.com/chapter/naruto-chapter-656/

If you scroll down to Hashirama's English dialogue, read from right to left order, he says:

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That wood dragon will absorb chakra from you! Now your chakra-absorbing ninnjutsu are nullified and meaningless!

The wood dragon nullifies Madara's chakra absorption techniques because it absorbs chakra, not because it is some innate ability of the dragon's, at least according to Hashirama. This sticking point the wikia only added as trivia for the wood dragon and is not mentioned in the preta path article, despite that being one of the few times in the manga in which the preta path would have been bested.

Of course, it is entirely likely that this was used on Madara before he could activate Preta Path, but this is still a precedent of a chakra absorption jutsu being used to overpower and nullify the effects of the other.

Finally, my opinion regarding your Thesis:

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That when two absorption techniques of similar power clash, they result in complete nullification of one another.

1) The Boruto manga had two of the exact same techniques with the same power against each other. Two chakra absorption techniques of equal power, just like two regular ninjutsus of the same strength as each other, cancel each other out. Therefore, unless "similar" is changed to "equal", as I see it, the thesis has no more supporting evidence now than it did when the dragon rolled up on Madara.

2) How are chakra absorption techniques ranked in terms of strength? Is it the power-ups behind them like most things? If that's the case might as well lump them in with every other jutsu scale.

3) Accepting this thesis would mean that barrier-wide and large area of effect chakra absorption techniques (Kirisame comes to mind here) theoretically can then be bypassed by using something akin to preta path or another chakra absorption barrier. It would reduce the utility of large scale chakra absorption barriers.

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Council / Re: Six Tails Issue?
« on: March 26, 2018, 01:05:30 am »
Yea I'm okay with fighting now. :D I'm very rusty at it but hey if he wants to fight for it I don't mind throwing down for the big bad slug.

As long as it's your choice, I have no objections.

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Council / Re: Six Tails Issue?
« on: March 24, 2018, 09:35:34 pm »
Why bother, like you yourself said councils dead (not that it ever worked to begin with), and no one person can just dictate these matters, so if Neko and Ray want to do this there's nothing anybody can do to stop them. All the whole grace thing would accomplish is just pointless waiting, since not much -if anything- would change in that time and in the end they would just fight it out anyway.

Better cut to the chase and get it out of the way.

What if Neko doesn't want to fight immediately though? What if he would prefer to wait the time of the grace period so that he can properly prepare? It is rather telling to me that he did not jump on here and say "let's fight" right when Ray said he wanted his name on the docket to take the beast, nor did he make any such statement in the challenge thread.

If for no other reason, that is why to bother. There are other reasons such as "those are the rules" and "he has his rights", but that pretty much sums it up. Neko is not forced to fight until his grace period is up, period.

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Council / Re: Six Tails Issue?
« on: March 24, 2018, 06:06:32 am »
Technically there needs to be consensus among the Council members that this is how the stripping should be handled. Of course, that leads to the question of whether or not the current Council members are actually active to make the consensus.

If it's worth anything to the remaining court of public opinion, I do not object to this handling of the beast, assuming that Koji had no disclosed reason for being inactive for 20 days. From the activity of myself and the forum in general, I suspect this will not be a major issue until some ways down the road.


I'm rusty, hold on:

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In the event that a host/summoner is stripped during a match, the beast goes to the current challenger.

In the event a host/summoner is stripped outside of a match, the beast goes to the first challenger on the host's challenge list.

In the event that a host/summoner is stripped, and no challenger exists, the bijuu council determines how to handle the reassignment of the beast in question.

Nekomaru, as the challenger, gets the beast, as he would fulfill either condition for which a challenger exists. He would then begin his grace period, unless by choice he wants to have a fight for it before the grace period is over.

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