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Blueberry

6 (27.3%)

Blackberry

5 (22.7%)

Greenberry

3 (13.6%)

Redberry

3 (13.6%)

Library

5 (22.7%)

Total Members Voted: 12

Voting closed: May 06, 2012, 10:51:17 PM

[Uchiha, Rares]

Most certainly not. The voting starts when the poll does.

[Chika]

The poll started about 2 day's ago. Remember, I know I voted for redberry. xD

[Uchiha, Rares]

>_>

[Raifudo Oppa]

Postponing the poll for another day so we can get the word out to vote tomorrow.

[Uchiha, Rares]

*denies! D:<*

Anyway!

Here is how I think the desc of the poll should be:
Pm your votes to Ace via SL after voting on the forum poll. Please try to keep the two identical, otherwise you votes may be canceled.


If by chance, anyone opposes this idea, it's just so we don't need to make two different polls. So long as people can vote for 1-9 things, keeping things the way they were being an option, we need to know the exact number of people that have voted.

For example: 20 people voted, and there are 11 votes for keeping things the way they were but 120 votes in total, we'd end up keeping things the way they were. Otherwise, it would be unfair for the mention option to require up to 9 times more votes just to match.

This is also done so that we can remove the alt issue from the matter.

[Ace]

Alrighty.

If messages will be sent to me, I will make sure through the system that alts are not voting.
Of course, even if a household may have multiple members, to be fair to all, it will count as one vote.

For an account to truly be unique, everything will be taken account (not only IP, there is more).

Also, anything posted on the forum, will not be subject to any "verifications" or any checks.
After I've received all of the messages, like I said, I'll see if any "same" people voted, those will be kicked out.
And I will then post in the new poll thread that will be created the votes- one post each for each message.
If need be, they can be forwarded to a third party for verification.

Though like I  said, anything that is not sent to me, I can't do anything about.

[Raifudo Oppa]

Acey-kins is so pretty. <3

[Uchiha, Rares]

Alrighty.

If messages will be sent to me, I will make sure through the system that alts are not voting.
Of course, even if a household may have multiple members, to be fair to all, it will count as one vote.

For an account to truly be unique, everything will be taken account (not only IP, there is more).

Also, anything posted on the forum, will not be subject to any "verifications" or any checks.
After I've received all of the messages, like I said, I'll see if any "same" people voted, those will be kicked out.
And I will then post in the new poll thread that will be created the votes- one post each for each message.
If need be, they can be forwarded to a third party for verification.

Though like I said, anything that is not sent to me, I can't do anything about.

Hence why I stated that they should write down their SL name when posting who they voted for. That way you could check. But oh well, in order to not make your work any harder, we should have them all pm you the votes via SL. I will reedit my desk suggestion. Making it both a poll and pm Ace thingy seems best. That way, Ace just has to check the ip and what not while not needing to count hundreds of votes.

[Ace]

Do the members have to vote for nine people?
Or are they allowed to vote for five, or six...?

[KayentaMoenkopi]

I would prefer that if they are voting to get a new council that they vote for 9 people.

A full vote or why bother?

Sure like any elections you may wind up voting for the lesser of evils once your favs are out of the way, but that is just the way it is sometimes.

Should we add a none of the above category? A lets have no council option? I have heard many people saying they think a council will just make things worse.

Not my opinion but it is out there.

[Uchiha, Rares]

People shouldn't be forced to vote for more than they want nor should they be obliged to choose "lesser evils". Some may as well strategize to vote for their favorite while not contributing to the votes of others. There may be also those that know of 5 of the listed as being great and worthy but never hearing of the rest. That's just my opinion. Otherwise, you oblige people to contribute to the votes of people they don't even want or vote for some with poor judgement or while being ignorant of them.
To sum it up, I don't think that those that have not earned the favor of people i.e. are not wished by them, should not get voted by them.

I don't think adding a "no council" option would represent any issue at all. It would simply need to be calculated in the same way as the "keep old council".

[Chika]

I'm sure not everyone will use all 9 votes, I stated that about the poll before a few pages back. It won't be a issue if they don't use all of their votes.

[Kite]

I'd have to agree with not forcing people to use all of their votes. Speaking from my personal position there are many people that are listed that I'm not familiar with. That being the case I wouldn't want to pick someone at random just because I have to use all my votes. That wouldn't end up being a very representative list in my opinion.

[Chika]

Everyone won't use all of their votes even IF we said you must. You can't help the fact that they won't and what Kite stated is a good enough reason for them not to. The clear idea is for them to vote for who they want and not someone randomly. The council can add or remove those they see will be a great influence being seated within once established (if needed), or they can remove those who are unfit to be seated, general election within the council once it's made.

[Raifudo Oppa]

Do we send them to Ace via SL or Forums?